Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
should we start create issues and mark it as gsoc2013 I guess it is time for it now . On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.comwrote: Okay, I understand. Do you, or anyone else, have any idea what the chances are of this being approved as a project? On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: We can propose that. But you have to find a student that is willing todo it and convince Google/ASF that this is worth sponsoring. Sebastian Am 17.02.2013 08:43 schrieb Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.com: Would a comprehensive user's guide be considered, or does it have to be a programming project? On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: No, you can still add things. In fact students can propose ideas on their own too. It is just more likely that we get a success project if we can define a nice project scope upfront. Sebastian 2013/2/17 Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.com Has this list of projects/features been finalized yet? Thanks. Dan On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: One idea for the Calender would be also to have export and import mechanisms to ICS format so you can display those meetings and sync to your mobile. Sebastian 2013/2/14 Irina Arkhipets ia...@unipro.ru Hi Sebastian, ** ** My idea for GSOC-2013 is to add recurrence events support for OpenMeetings calendar. ** ** Best regards, Irina. ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com ** ** Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian
Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
Okay, I understand. Do you, or anyone else, have any idea what the chances are of this being approved as a project? On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: We can propose that. But you have to find a student that is willing todo it and convince Google/ASF that this is worth sponsoring. Sebastian Am 17.02.2013 08:43 schrieb Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.com: Would a comprehensive user's guide be considered, or does it have to be a programming project? On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: No, you can still add things. In fact students can propose ideas on their own too. It is just more likely that we get a success project if we can define a nice project scope upfront. Sebastian 2013/2/17 Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.com Has this list of projects/features been finalized yet? Thanks. Dan On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: One idea for the Calender would be also to have export and import mechanisms to ICS format so you can display those meetings and sync to your mobile. Sebastian 2013/2/14 Irina Arkhipets ia...@unipro.ru Hi Sebastian, ** ** My idea for GSOC-2013 is to add recurrence events support for OpenMeetings calendar. ** ** Best regards, Irina. ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com ** ** Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Sebastian Wagner
Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
Would a comprehensive user's guide be considered, or does it have to be a programming project? On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: No, you can still add things. In fact students can propose ideas on their own too. It is just more likely that we get a success project if we can define a nice project scope upfront. Sebastian 2013/2/17 Daniel Ascher d...@aplustutoring.com Has this list of projects/features been finalized yet? Thanks. Dan On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: One idea for the Calender would be also to have export and import mechanisms to ICS format so you can display those meetings and sync to your mobile. Sebastian 2013/2/14 Irina Arkhipets ia...@unipro.ru Hi Sebastian, ** ** My idea for GSOC-2013 is to add recurrence events support for OpenMeetings calendar. ** ** Best regards, Irina. ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com ** ** Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian ** ** ** ** 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. President A+ Test Prep and Tutoring Creating Bright Futures 505 York Road, Suite 6 Jenkintown, PA 19046 Office: 215.886.9188 Direct: 267.242.9640 www.aplustutoring.com [image: Image removed by sender.] -- Sebastian Wagner
RE: GSoC project ideas wanted
Hi Sebastian, My idea for GSOC-2013 is to add recurrence events support for OpenMeetings calendar. Best regards, Irina. 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com http://www.wagner-sebastian.com mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com http://www.wagner-sebastian.com mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. President A+ Test Prep and Tutoring Creating Bright Futures 505 York Road, Suite 6 Jenkintown, PA 19046 Office: 215.886.9188 Direct: 267.242.9640 www.aplustutoring.com http://www.aplustutoring.com/ Image removed by sender. image001.jpg
Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
my list: 1) HTML5 whiteboard 2) faster screen sharing 3) wicketstuff-poi for HTML5 document sharing (otherwise we should use images somehow) 4) Apache compatible wysiwyg editor Wicket component (to be used in chat/invitations/messages) TBD On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:16 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding point No2: Compression ratio in the screensharing is somehow limited to the available codecs we can use. We can use SHA1 and SHA2 (Adobe Screen Sharing Codec). I think we currently use SHA1, SHA2 might be a nice project for a student that is interested in coding some codec. And I think we can provide a reference implementation somewhere. I think this project has good chances and a well defined scope. @Daniel: Screenshot tool is also a nice idea, but it would end up to be part of the screensharing Web-Start application. Is that what you intend to propose? Sebastian 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
- My proposal for the screenshot tool is that it be part of the standard room layout. - Also, current screen-sharing tool cannot be viewed as full screen (as far as I know). Is there a way to make it viewable in full screen and/or zoom-in? Thanks. Dan On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding point No2: Compression ratio in the screensharing is somehow limited to the available codecs we can use. We can use SHA1 and SHA2 (Adobe Screen Sharing Codec). I think we currently use SHA1, SHA2 might be a nice project for a student that is interested in coding some codec. And I think we can provide a reference implementation somewhere. I think this project has good chances and a well defined scope. @Daniel: Screenshot tool is also a nice idea, but it would end up to be part of the screensharing Web-Start application. Is that what you intend to propose? Sebastian 2013/2/12 seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com Hi Ed, thanks for your ideas. About idea no 1: That is an interesting idea, however it won't be possible that you provide a free to choose bandwidth for each user. The background is: Every stream that any client consumes has to be created somewhere. So what could be realized is that every stream that is broadcasted from one user via webcam to Red5/OpenMeetings will be re-transcoded into multiple streams (high, middle, low) bandwidth. So there might be some limitations to that: - high quality will never be better then the original material. We can't make a picture better then the original. So all re-transcoding will only make the original to lower quality, never to higher. - Re-transcoding has to happen on the server side (and number of streams are limited, we can't provide a stream on the required bandwidth on-demand for each user, or only with very big effort) - it will require real-time transcoding on server side which is possible with FFMPEG and some integration into Red5. But we would need a very specialized student that is keen and very motiviated as there is hardly any documentation on that available in the internet. What a project makes a success is if all participant know the potential outcome and the tools and methods that are needed to realize that. I would be happy to put this project on our list but it will be difficult to find somebody with the needed skills. Sebastian 2013/2/12 BBS Technik dormiti...@gmx.de Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com -- Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. President A+ Test Prep and Tutoring Creating Bright Futures 505 York Road, Suite 6 Jenkintown, PA 19046 Office: 215.886.9188 Direct: 267.242.9640 www.aplustutoring.com
Re: GSoC project ideas wanted
Hi all, I think, one of the gratest liminations for satisfactory video conferencing with om is the limited bandwidth of internet connections of the clients . Therefore I would like to suggest the following ideas for a GSoC project : 1. The image size of the videos transferred from the om server to the clients should be adapted to the video window size set in the recipient client. Thus the recipient client itself could influence the transferred amount of data to it. Then all the participants achieve the best possible result for them. 2. A second proposal concerns that the screensharing bandwidth requirements has an great impact on the overall quality of the video conference. Here, in a project the existing function of sreen sharing could be expanded and enhanced. For example, the possibility for the transfer on only one application window, regardless of its size. Or the possibility of shared browsing with a locally installed browser. Moreover, certainly an improvement of the used compression method would be a very good project topic. I would be happy if the subject of bandwidth consumption would plays a role in the selected GSoC project . Best regards Ed Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:44:54 +1300 Von: seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com An: dev d...@openmeetings.apache.org CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org Betreff: GSoC project ideas wanted Google Summer of Code is about to start soon! Google sponsors every student with 4500USD. Plus 500 for the Apache Foundation. We are searching for ideas what porential students can do. Ideas from Non-Developers are welcome too! We will add the ideas to JIRA then with a special label so students can find it. Sebastian
