Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-23 Thread Hasan Turksoy

I agree it is not acceptable but they are not behaving differently.  The

validator assigned to the component will be invoked before the

CommonsValidator is invoked.


there is NO custom validator Gary, only custom converters there :).. i've
realized that i made a mistake while writing my previous mail.. It should be
custom converter instead of custom validator.. Sorry for this mistake...


I'm not disagreeing that you have uncovered a bug that will be addressed

but what I'm saying is that Shales Commons Validator is using JSF

converters as a utility [1] for converting from one data type to another.


what i'm sayin is that too :) i only want to draw attention to custom
converters of components before using those JSF converters.


It does this nonsense to provide a generic way (single converter that works

for any rule) to invoke any custom validation rule that you might add.

i am not talking about using a generic converter or etc - as i say previous
sentence...

Let me summarize the conversation:
in current case; when i assigned a custom converter for a field, JSF RI is
using that custom converter but CommonsValidator is using by-type
converter.. This leads some misbehaviours...

Your comments light my mind,, and asked the same question for whole
yesterday...
if the value passed to the validator already converted, so why
commonsvalidator trying to convert that value again? The answer is; to use a
generic validator to do all validations.. As you say at your previous entry;
The data conversion occurs because the apache commons validator needs a
String data type and not a date data type.

Exactly at this point my issue/suggestion comes:
Main point is: Validator have to use the SAME CONVERTER which used before
sending that value to it...
i mean; if a value converted to java.util.Date type by ConverterX and send
to CommonsValidator to validate, so, CommmonsValidator must use that same
converter(ConverterX) too, to convert that value again toString/toObject...
not java.util.Date type's registered converter...

regards,

hasan
http://www.jroller.com/hasant



On 2/23/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only...
not
 for java.util.Date class you can download and look at
 jsf-ri-config.xml...

 in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by
adding a
 converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in
the
 origin

 Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component
 separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter
is
 meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!!
JSF
 will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it
too...

 now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and
CommonsValidator
 behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it?



I agree it is not acceptable but they are not behaving differently.  The
validator assigned to the component will be invoked before the
CommonsValidator is invoked.



 to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous
post;
 suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom
 converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same..
 both will use our by-type converter...

 But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below;

 **
  /


 then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's
value
 but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter...
 different behaviours!!...

Not exactly, the java.util.Date converter is used by commons validator
to convert a Date object to a String (within the validator's validate
method).  The custom converter assigned to the component (the same component
that is using commons validator), is being invoked prior to the call to
commons validator.
I'm not disagreeing that you have uncovered a bug that will be addressed
but what I'm saying is that Shales Commons Validator is using JSF converters
as a utility [1] for converting from one data type to another.  It does this
nonsense to provide a generic way (single converter that works for any rule)
to invoke any custom validation rule that you might add.
I'll try to summarize with code:
// Validator's interface
public void validate(FacesContext context, UIComponent component, Object
value)  {
..
Date obj  = (Date) value;// value is already processed by the
components converter (String -- Date)
ConverterHelper converterHelper = new ConverterHelper();
// uses the a JSF converter Object to String
String objString = converterHelper.asString(context, obj.getClass(), obj);
boolean isValid = isDate(objString, datepattern);

[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/framework/trunk/shale-core/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/util/ConverterHelper.java?view=markup


 In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks
for
 custom 

Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-23 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I agree it is not acceptable but they are not behaving differently. The 
 validator assigned to the component will be invoked before the 
 CommonsValidator is invoked. 
 
 there is NO custom validator Gary, only custom converters there :).. i've 
 realized that i made a mistake while writing my previous mail.. It should be 
 custom converter instead of custom validator.. Sorry for this mistake... 
 
 I'm not disagreeing that you have uncovered a bug that will be addressed 
 but what I'm saying is that Shales Commons Validator is using JSF 
 converters as a utility [1] for converting from one data type to another. 
 
 what i'm sayin is that too :) i only want to draw attention to custom 
 converters of components before using those JSF converters. 
 
 It does this nonsense to provide a generic way (single converter that works 
 for any rule) to invoke any custom validation rule that you might add. 
 
 i am not talking about using a generic converter or etc - as i say previous 
 sentence... 
 
 Let me summarize the conversation: 
 in current case; when i assigned a custom converter for a field, JSF RI is 
 using that custom converter but CommonsValidator is using by-type 
 converter.. This leads some misbehaviours... 
 
 Your comments light my mind,, and asked the same question for whole 
 yesterday... 
 if the value passed to the validator already converted, so why 
 commonsvalidator trying to convert that value again? The answer is; to use a 
 generic validator to do all validations.. As you say at your previous entry; 
 The data conversion occurs because the apache commons validator needs a 
 String data type and not a date data type. 
 
 Exactly at this point my issue/suggestion comes: 
 Main point is: Validator have to use the SAME CONVERTER which used before 
 sending that value to it... 
 i mean; if a value converted to java.util.Date type by ConverterX and send 
 to CommonsValidator to validate, so, CommmonsValidator must use that same 
 converter(ConverterX) too, to convert that value again toString/toObject... 
 not java.util.Date type's registered converter... 



It is a good question and it's not the first time it has been asked.  It sounds 
like you are familiar it commons validator [1].  It’s important to point out 
that the shale JSF flavor is an integration layer to an existing solution.  

The example we are talking about here is pretty simple. The shale commons 
validator is passed a java.util.Date.  The method performing the validation 
needs two String’s as part of the actual parameter. 


Now, let’s say that I have a custom validation function that I want to 
register.  We’ll use another simple example.  Let’s say that my custom date 
validation function needs a java.sql.Date.

public class MyValidationRule
   public static boolean isDateOnWeekend(java.sql.Date value) 

To register the custom rule with the shale’s JSF integration with commons 
validator [1], I need to declare a new rule in the validator-rule.xml [2] 
configuration file.  My custom validation rule doesn’t have client side script 
support – only server-side.


 validator name=dateonweekend
  classname=org.acme.MyValidationRule 
  method= isDateOnWeekend
  methodParams=java.sql.Date
  msg=errors.date 
  depends=/
..
…
….
  form name=org.apache.shale.validator.dateonweekend
field property=date
arg position=0 name=message key=arg resource=false/
arg position=1 name=message key=submittedValue 
resource=false/
arg position=0 name=parameter key=submittedValue 
resource=false/
/field
/form


The JSP might look something like this:

h:inputText id=date
   value=#{mybean.partytime}
   f:convertDateTime pattern=MM/dd//

  val:commonsValidator
   type=dateonweekend
  datePatternStrict=MM/dd/
message={0} is not on the weekend
arg=Party time
 server=true
 client=false/
/h:inputText

The converter registered with the component, f:convertDateTime,  will convert 
from String to “java.sql.Date”.  How are we going to invoke this function 
without type conversion?  The shale commons validator provides a declarative 
mechanism to register various validation rules.  The same chunk of code handles 
invoking all rules, not just the “date” rule that we have been discussing.


This leads to the bigger questions.  Is this the best way to implement 
validator’s in JSF?  Well probably not.  

Does it provide integration with an existing apache project that focuses on 
declarative form based validation (client and server side).  Yes. 

[1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/validator/
[2] 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/framework/trunk/shale-validator/src/main/resources/org/apache/shale/validator/validator-rules.xml?view=markup


 
 regards, 
 
 hasan 
 

Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Hasan Turksoy

jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only... not
for java.util.Date class you can download and look at
jsf-ri-config.xml...

in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by adding a
converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in the
origin

Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component
separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter is
meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!! JSF
will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it too...

now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and CommonsValidator
behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it?

to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous post;
suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom
converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same..
both will use our by-type converter...

But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below;
h:inputtext ...
 *f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /*
 s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true server=true
/
/h:inputtext

then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's value
but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter...
different behaviours!!...

In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks for
custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a by-type
converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think...

i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it works
perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original
CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think...

i can provide code if required...

regards..

hasan..





On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 hi all,

 Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4..

 i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My
 field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String -
 java.util.Date. it's like;


h:inputtext ...
  f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /
  s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true
server=true
/
/h:inputtext

 When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a
 ConverterException as below;

 javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for
type
 java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this
type.



I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception.  I belive that the
java.util.Data
converter should be registered with the JSF runtime.

Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace?
The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF
converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server
side validation methods.





 as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. But
in
 JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample...

 this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter
for
 that type from component. if component don't have any converters
assigned,
 it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have
to
 define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be
 stupid i think...

 any comments?? or solutions??

What version of the JSF runtime are you using?  This sounds like a rutime
issue.



 thanks in advance,
 hasan..


Gary.


Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Craig McClanahan

On 2/22/07, Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only... not
for java.util.Date class you can download and look at
jsf-ri-config.xml...

in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by adding a
converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in the
origin

Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component
separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter is
meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!! JSF
will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it too...

now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and CommonsValidator
behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it?

to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous post;
suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom
converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same..
both will use our by-type converter...

But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below;
h:inputtext ...
  *f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /*
  s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true server=true
/
/h:inputtext

then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's value
but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter...
different behaviours!!...

In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks for
custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a by-type
converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think...

i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it works
perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original
CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think...

i can provide code if required...


This definitely sounds like a real issue.  Could you file a bug report
in our issue tracking system[1]  so we can get it addressed?

Craig

[1] https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE




regards..

hasan..





On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  hi all,
 
  Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4..
 
  i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My
  field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String -
  java.util.Date. it's like;
 
 
 h:inputtext ...
   f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /
   s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true
 server=true
 /
 /h:inputtext
 
  When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a
  ConverterException as below;
 
  javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for
 type
  java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this
 type.
 


 I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception.  I belive that the
 java.util.Data
 converter should be registered with the JSF runtime.

 Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace?
 The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF
 converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server
 side validation methods.





  as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. But
 in
  JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample...
 
  this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter
 for
  that type from component. if component don't have any converters
 assigned,
  it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have
 to
  define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be
  stupid i think...
 
  any comments?? or solutions??
 
 What version of the JSF runtime are you using?  This sounds like a rutime
 issue.



  thanks in advance,
  hasan..


 Gary.



Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Matthias Wessendorf

On 2/22/07, Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only... not
for java.util.Date class you can download and look at
jsf-ri-config.xml...

in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by adding a
converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in the
origin


are you talking about this:
   converter
   converter-idjavax.faces.DateTime/converter-id
   converter-classjavax.faces.convert.DateTimeConverter/converter-class
   /converter


that is just the id...

I think the -for-class is only there for simple converters like

javax.faces.convert.FloatConverter

-M



Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component
separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter is
meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!! JSF
will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it too...

now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and CommonsValidator
behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it?

to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous post;
suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom
converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same..
both will use our by-type converter...

But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below;
h:inputtext ...
  *f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /*
  s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true server=true
/
/h:inputtext

then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's value
but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter...
different behaviours!!...

In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks for
custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a by-type
converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think...

i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it works
perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original
CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think...

i can provide code if required...

regards..

hasan..





On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  hi all,
 
  Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4..
 
  i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My
  field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String -
  java.util.Date. it's like;
 
 
 h:inputtext ...
   f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /
   s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true
 server=true
 /
 /h:inputtext
 
  When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a
  ConverterException as below;
 
  javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for
 type
  java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this
 type.
 


 I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception.  I belive that the
 java.util.Data
 converter should be registered with the JSF runtime.

 Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace?
 The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF
 converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server
 side validation methods.





  as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. But
 in
  JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample...
 
  this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter
 for
  that type from component. if component don't have any converters
 assigned,
  it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have
 to
  define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be
  stupid i think...
 
  any comments?? or solutions??
 
 What version of the JSF runtime are you using?  This sounds like a rutime
 issue.



  thanks in advance,
  hasan..


 Gary.




--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh

further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com


Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 On 2/22/07, Hasan Turksoy wrote: 
  jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only... not 
  for java.util.Date class you can download and look at 
  jsf-ri-config.xml... 
  
  in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by adding 
  a 
  converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in the 
  origin 
 
 are you talking about this: 
 
 javax.faces.DateTime 
 javax.faces.convert.DateTimeConverter 
 
 
 
 that is just the id... 
 
 I think the -for-class is only there for simple converters like 
 
 javax.faces.convert.FloatConverter 


Yeah, for some reason I was thinking that the RI already has a converter 
registered by type for the java.util.Date type.

converter-for-classjava.util.Date/converter-for-class

The shale commons validator uses the ConverterHelper [1] (uses JSF type 
converters) to convert the submitted value, after the components converter has 
already converted to a Date object,  back to a String to match the commons 
validator methodParams.

   validator   name=date
classname=org.apache.shale.validator.CommonsValidator
method=isDate
methodParams=java.lang.String,java.lang.String
msg=errors.date
   jsFunctionName=validateDate
   
jsFunction=org.apache.commons.validator.javascript.validateDate   
  depends=/



[1] 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/framework/trunk/shale-core/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/util/ConverterHelper.java?view=markup
 
 -M 
 

Gary


 
  Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component 
  separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter is 
  meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!! JSF 
  will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it 
  too... 
  
  now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and 
  CommonsValidator 
  behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it? 
  
  to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous post; 
  suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom 
  converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same.. 
  both will use our by-type converter... 
  
  But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below; 
  
  ** 
/ 
  
  
  then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's value 
  but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter... 
  different behaviours!!... 
  
  In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks for 
  custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a by-type 
  converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think... 
  
  i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it works 
  perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original 
  CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think... 
  
  i can provide code if required... 
  
  regards.. 
  
  hasan.. 
  
  
  
  
  
  On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre wrote: 
   
   From: Hasan Turksoy 

hi all, 

Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4.. 

i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My 
field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String - 
java.util.Date. it's like; 




   server=true 
   / 


When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a 
ConverterException as below; 

javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for 
   type 
java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this 
   type. 

   
   
   I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception. I belive that the 
   java.util.Data 
   converter should be registered with the JSF runtime. 
   
   Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace? 
   The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF 
   converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server 
   side validation methods. 
   
   
   
   
   
as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. 
But 
   in 
JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample... 

this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter 
   for 
that type from component. if component don't have any converters 
   assigned, 
it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have 
   to 
define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be 
stupid i think... 

any comments?? or solutions?? 

   What version of the JSF runtime are you using? This sounds like a rutime 
   issue. 
   
   
   
thanks in advance, 
hasan.. 
   
   
   Gary. 
  
 
 
 -- 
 Matthias Wessendorf 
 

Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Hasan Turksoy

Craig

i have created an issue.. you can reach it from
herehttp://www.nabble.com/CommonsValidator-doesn%2527t-take-component-converters-into-account%2521-tf3266040.html
...


Matthias

you are absolutely right :). converters only defined(by id) in config file
but they aren't registered for special types in general.. these converters
generally assigned for components externally... may be, i've over
consantrated about looking for custom component converters before by-type
converters part of conversation ;)


Gary

in fact, it doesn't matter, whether there is a converter for that type or
not... in any case, CommonsValidator should look for component's custom
converter first. if can not find, look up for a by-type converter later.
this is the main issue... JSF RI works as this way..
there might be a registered converter for my type.. But if i assigned a
custom converter for a field, JSF RI will use it not the registered by-type
converter.. so CommonsValidator should work like it too
hasan..
http://www.jroller.com/page/hasant




On 2/22/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 2/22/07, Hasan Turksoy wrote:
  jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only...
not
  for java.util.Date class you can download and look at
  jsf-ri-config.xml...
 
  in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by
adding a
  converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem
in the
  origin

 are you talking about this:

 javax.faces.DateTime
 javax.faces.convert.DateTimeConverter



 that is just the id...

 I think the -for-class is only there for simple converters like

 javax.faces.convert.FloatConverter


Yeah, for some reason I was thinking that the RI already has a converter
registered by type for the java.util.Date type.

converter-for-classjava.util.Date/converter-for-class

The shale commons validator uses the ConverterHelper [1] (uses JSF type
converters) to convert the submitted value, after the components converter
has already converted to a Date object,  back to a String to match the
commons validator methodParams.

  validator   name=date
   classname=org.apache.shale.validator.CommonsValidator
   method=isDate
   methodParams=java.lang.String,java.lang.String
   msg=errors.date
  jsFunctionName=validateDate
  jsFunction=
org.apache.commons.validator.javascript.validateDate
 depends=/



[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/framework/trunk/shale-core/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/util/ConverterHelper.java?view=markup

 -M


Gary



  Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component
  separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Dateconverter is
  meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that
field!! JSF
  will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it
too...
 
  now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and
CommonsValidator
  behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it?
 
  to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous
post;
  suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom
  converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work
same..
  both will use our by-type converter...
 
  But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below;
 
  **
/
 
 
  then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's
value
  but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter...
  different behaviours!!...
 
  In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first
looks for
  custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a
by-type
  converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think...
 
  i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it
works
  perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original
  CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think...
 
  i can provide code if required...
 
  regards..
 
  hasan..
 
 
 
 
 
  On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre wrote:
  
   From: Hasan Turksoy
   
hi all,
   
Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4..
   
i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering
field.. My
field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String
-
java.util.Date. it's like;
   
   
   
   
   server=true
   /
   
   
When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a
ConverterException as below;
   
javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion
for
   type
java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for
this
   type.
   
  
  
   I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception. I belive that the
   java.util.Data
   converter should be registered with the JSF runtime.
  
   Can you tell where the exception is being 

Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-22 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 jsf-ri1.1 contains converter for javax.faces.DateTime class only... not 
 for java.util.Date class you can download and look at 
 jsf-ri-config.xml... 
 
 in fact, this is not the main problem... i can overcome my issue by adding a 
 converter for java.util.Date... But this doesn't solve the problem in the 
 origin 
 
 Because; in JSF, one can add custom converter for each component 
 separately... in such a case, using my by-type java.util.Date converter is 
 meaningless! because, user assigned a custom converter for that field!! JSF 
 will use it instead of by-type converter... so, commons should use it too... 
 
 now, when assigned custom validator for fields,, JSF RI and CommonsValidator 
 behaving differently!!! this is not an acceptable situation! isn't it? 



I agree it is not acceptable but they are not behaving differently.  The 
validator assigned to the component will be invoked before the CommonsValidator 
is invoked.



 to realize the problem... when returned to my sample in the previous post; 
 suppose that i have a java.util.Date converter... and no custom 
 converter... in this case, CommonsValidator and JSF RI will work same.. 
 both will use our by-type converter... 
 
 But, if i use a custom converter for my inputtext as below; 
 
 ** 
  / 
 
 
 then, JSF RI will use this custom component converter to convert it's value 
 but CommonsValidator will use our by-type java.util.Date converter... 
 different behaviours!!... 
 
Not exactly, the java.util.Date converter is used by commons validator to 
convert a Date object to a String (within the validator's validate method).  
The custom converter assigned to the component (the same component that is 
using commons validator), is being invoked prior to the call to commons 
validator.
I'm not disagreeing that you have uncovered a bug that will be addressed but 
what I'm saying is that Shales Commons Validator is using JSF converters as a 
utility [1] for converting from one data type to another.  It does this 
nonsense to provide a generic way (single converter that works for any rule) to 
invoke any custom validation rule that you might add.
I'll try to summarize with code:
// Validator's interface
public void validate(FacesContext context, UIComponent component, Object value) 
 {
..
Date obj  = (Date) value;// value is already processed by the components 
converter (String -- Date)
ConverterHelper converterHelper = new ConverterHelper();
// uses the a JSF converter Object to String
String objString = converterHelper.asString(context, obj.getClass(), obj);
boolean isValid = isDate(objString, datepattern);

[1] 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/framework/trunk/shale-core/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/util/ConverterHelper.java?view=markup

 
 In conclusion; when we look at JSF RI code, we see that; it first looks for 
 custom component converter then, if can not find, searches for a by-type 
 converter... CommonsValidator must work same i think... 
 
 i have injected my solution into my CommonsValidator class and it works 
 perfect... above suggestion should be implemented in original 
 CommonsValidator releases as soon as possible i think... 
 

I agree... 


 i can provide code if required... 
 
 regards.. 
 
 hasan.. 
 
 

Gary


 
 
 
 On 2/21/07, Gary VanMatre wrote: 
  
  From: Hasan Turksoy 
   
   hi all, 
   
   Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4.. 
   
   i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My 
   field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String - 
   java.util.Date. it's like; 
   
   
   
   
 server=true 
  / 
   
   
   When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a 
   ConverterException as below; 
   
   javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for 
  type 
   java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this 
  type. 
   
  
  
  I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception. I belive that the 
  java.util.Data 
  converter should be registered with the JSF runtime. 
  
  Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace? 
  The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF 
  converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server 
  side validation methods. 
  
  
  
  
  
   as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. But 
  in 
   JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample... 
   
   this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter 
  for 
   that type from component. if component don't have any converters 
  assigned, 
   it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have 
  to 
   define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be 
   stupid i think... 
   
   any comments?? or solutions?? 
   
  What version of the JSF runtime are you using? This sounds like a rutime 
  issue. 
  
  
  
   

Re: [shale-validator] CommonsValidator doesn't take component converters into account!

2007-02-21 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Hasan Turksoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 hi all, 
 
 Env: jsf1.1, commons-validator1.3.1, shale1.0.4.. 
 
 i'am trying to put a required validator for my date entering field.. My 
 field has a f:convertDateTime to make conversion between String - 
 java.util.Date. it's like; 
 
 
h:inputtext ...
  f:convertDateTime dateStyle=short /
  s:commonsvalidator type=required arg=... client=true server=true
/
/h:inputtext
 
 When i entered a valid value into my date field it throws a 
 ConverterException as below; 
 
 javax.faces.ConverterException: You have requested a conversion for type 
 java.util.Date, but there is no by-type converter registered for this type. 



I'm not sure why you are seeing this exception.  I belive that the 
java.util.Data 
converter should be registered with the JSF runtime.

Can you tell where the exception is being raised from the stack trace?  
The reason for asking is that the shale commons validator uses JSF 
converters to coerce data types to match the signatures of the server
side validation methods.


 

 
 as i understand; it needs a converter for the java.util.Date class.. But in 
 JSF, one can assign custom converter tags as above sample... 
 
 this means, (my suggestion) commonsvalidator should get the converter for 
 that type from component. if component don't have any converters assigned, 
 it should lookup for a by-type converter then... Otherwise, i will have to 
 define by-type converters for all my component converters! this will be 
 stupid i think... 
 
 any comments?? or solutions?? 
 
What version of the JSF runtime are you using?  This sounds like a rutime issue.



 thanks in advance, 
 hasan..


Gary.