Re: Logo Proposal
Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 Thanks, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug wrote: > Option 4!! > > Trina > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out > and I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at > all > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper > wrote: > >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>> but with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>> >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >>> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >>> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >>> favorite). >>> >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt >>> wrote: >>> >>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is >>> a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >>> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon >>> and post another version of that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >>> >>> +1 on dragon. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>> >>> >>> >>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>> separately. Maybe we vote on eac
Re: Trafodion Runtime Security
I'll bite. Do the traditional Posix bits work under Trafodion? Gunnar On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Qifan Chen wrote: > Should we also briefly mention if the traditional Posix permission bits > does/does not work under trafodion? > > thanks --Qifan > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Hans Zeller > wrote: > >> Hi Gunnar, sounds good to me. Two somewhat related comments: One is that >> if Trafodion uses a floating IP address in a cloud deployment, like Amazon >> AWS, the trafodion id will need limited sudo capabilities to move the >> elastic IP address from one node to another. >> >> The other is what we should not do: The trafodion id should not be given >> any other sudo privileges. Also, the trafodion id should be locked (sudo >> passwd -l trafodion). Users who need to be running as the trafodion id >> should do that using the sudo command, e.g. sudo -u trafodion -i. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Hans >> >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Gunnar Tapper >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to document introductory-level security requirements for >>> Trafodion, both runtime and during provisining >>> (installation/upgrade/resizing/removal). >>> >>> This is what I have for runtime: >>> >>> The `trafodion:trafodion` user ID is created as part of the installation >>> process. Trafodion runs under this ID, which must be >>> registered as a user in the Hadoop Distributed File System (HDFS) to >>> store and access objects in HDFS, HBase, and Hive. >>> In addition, the `trafodion` user ID required passwordless access among >>> the nodes where Trafodion is installed to run cross-node Trafodion >>> functions such as scripts. >>> >>> Trafodion requires that either HDFS ACLs or Kerberos is enabled. >>> >>> Trafodion users are managed by the Trafodion SQL security features >>> (grant, revoke, etc.), which can be integrated with LDAP if so desired. >>> These users are referred to as *database users* and do not have direct >>> access to the operating system. >>> >>> >>> What did I miss? What did I get wrong? >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >>> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, --Qifan > > -- Thanks, Gunnar *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Logo Proposal
Option 4!! Trina > On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: > > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and > I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all > > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper >> wrote: >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>> wrote: >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The >>> dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, >>> not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but >>> with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could >>> try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color >>> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>> >>> >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >>> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >>> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >>> favorite). >>> >>> >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: >>> >>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >>> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >>> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and >>> post another version of that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >>> >>> +1 on dragon. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson >>> wrote: >>> >>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>> >>> >>> >>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >>> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dra
Re: Logo Proposal
Option 4 looks good. The other one is not "serious" enough for my taste. Just my 2 cents. Enis On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out > and I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at > all > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper > wrote: > >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>> but with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>> >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >>> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >>> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >>> favorite). >>> >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt >>> wrote: >>> >>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is >>> a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >>> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon >>> and post another version of that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >>> >>> +1 on dragon. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>> >>> >>> >>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' i
Re: Logo Proposal
Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not fond of it overall... But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all Thanks Ken! -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper wrote: > Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >> >> >> >> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, >> not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >> (perhaps also in lower case). >> >> >> >> Weishiun >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but >> with the placement of option 6. >> >> >> >> That said, either one is fine. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >> >> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >> >> >> >> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >> >> >> >> Option 4 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Option 6 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >> field testing! >> >> Comments on 4 & 6? >> >> >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >> well. >> >> >> >> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >> >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >> favorite). >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: >> >> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >> >> >> >> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and >> post another version of that. >> >> >> >> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >> >> +1 on dragon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >> >> >> >> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >> >> >> >> >> >> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon >> carries. >> >> >> >> St.Ack >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --- >> >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> -
Re: Logo Proposal
Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The > dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J > > > > *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, > not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional > (perhaps also in lower case). > > > > Weishiun > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but > with the placement of option 6. > > > > That said, either one is fine. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone
RE: Logo Proposal
Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday,
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+1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an
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I am not able to paste it here and preserve the font. But on the website, http://trafodion.apache.org/, the Trafodion on the top left upper corner in red has a lowercase font with the ‘F’ going down. We could try that to see if it looks better than 4 which is already pretty close/popular. Sandhya *From:* Atanu Mishra [mailto:atanumis...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:06 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close. Regards, Atanu Atanu Mishra On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi wrote: +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very e
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I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close. Regards, Atanu Atanu Mishra On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi wrote: > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really > well the yellow elephant! > > > > Regards, > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s > too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have > that issue. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Logo Proposal > > > > Hi All, > > > > Apache Trafodion needs a logo. > > > > I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some > time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of > Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo > that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project nam
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Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?
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+1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken -- Thanks, Amanda Moran
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Like both options 4 and 6, but here is one consideration: Lower-case letters are easier to read than upper case. For Trafodion (a.k.a. T8), we may not want to make it even harder to read than it already is. Hans On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Anuradha Hegde wrote: > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really > well the yellow elephant! > > > > Regards, > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s > too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have > that issue. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Logo Proposal > > > > Hi All, > > > > Apache Trafodion needs a logo. > > > > I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some > time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of > Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo > that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a > simple cute dragon. > > > > I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that > we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >
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+1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken -- Thanks, Amanda Moran
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First, congratulations all around on arriving at a logo without any associated death and mayhem (that I know of). I like script myself. Script is friendly, human, and goes with the cartoony dragon. The script here though is staid IMO. Poke around some more I'd say (I like google fonts...). St.Ack On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > Option 4 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > Option 6 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > Comments on 4 & 6? > > Cheers, Ken > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >> well. >> >> >> >> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >> favorite). >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: >> >> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >> >> >> >> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and >> post another version of that. >> >> >> >> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >> >> +1 on dragon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >> >> >> >> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >> >> >> >> >> >> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon >> carries. >> >> >> >> St.Ack >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --- >> >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> +1 for Dragon. >> >> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the >> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >> complicated with the cursive. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >> >> >> >> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >> likes... I give it a +0 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >> really well the yellow elephant! >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -clr >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s >> too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have >> that issue. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >> >> >> >> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some >> time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of >> Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo >> that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a >> simple cute dragon. >> >> >> >> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose tha
RE: Logo Proposal
+1 for option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken -- Thanks, Amanda Moran
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+1 for Option 4. *From:* Sean Broeder [mailto:sean.broe...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:54 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 for option 4 *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:53 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Love option 4 + <3 Nice work! On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Shou
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+1 on option 4 -clr *From:* Prashanth Vasudev [mailto:prashanth.vasu...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:54 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 Option 4. Regards, Prashanth *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:53 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Love option 4 + <3 Nice work! On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s
RE: Logo Proposal
+1 for option 4 *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:53 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Love option 4 + <3 Nice work! On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken -- Thanks, Amanda Moran -- Thanks, Amanda Moran
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+1 Option 4. Regards, Prashanth *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:53 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Love option 4 + <3 Nice work! On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken -- Thanks, Amanda Moran -- Thanks, Amanda Moran
Re: Logo Proposal
Love option 4 + <3 Nice work! On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ken Holt wrote: > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > Option 4 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > Option 6 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > Comments on 4 & 6? > > Cheers, Ken > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >> well. >> >> >> >> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >> favorite). >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: >> >> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >> >> >> >> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and >> post another version of that. >> >> >> >> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: >> >> +1 on dragon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >> >> >> >> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >> >> >> >> >> >> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon >> carries. >> >> >> >> St.Ack >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --- >> >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> +1 for Dragon. >> >> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the >> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >> complicated with the cursive. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >> >> >> >> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >> likes... I give it a +0 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >> really well the yellow elephant! >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -clr >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s >> too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have >> that issue. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >> >> >> >> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some >> time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of >> Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo >> that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a >> simple cute dragon. >> >> >> >> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that >> we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >> >> >> >> Dragon standalone - >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing >> >> Trafodion name & dragon - >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owS
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Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really > well the yellow elephant! > > > > Regards, > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s > too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have > that issue. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Logo Proposal > > > > Hi All, > > > > Apache Trafodion needs a logo. > > > > I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some > time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of > Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo > that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a > simple cute dragon. > > > > I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that > we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. > > > > Dragon standalone - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing > > Trafodion name & dragon - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing > > > > I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s > look too similar. > > > > Thoughts? Should we vote on this? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Amanda Moran > > > > > > > > >
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