RE: installation prerequisites

[Christophe LeRouzo]

Hi Sharu,



If you don’t want to wait for Trafodion 2.0 release (which will support CDH
5.5), you can still find CDH 5.3 here:
http://www.cloudera.com/downloads/cdh/5-3-0.html



Best,

Christophe





*From:* Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 1:27 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: installation prerequisites



Hi Sharu,



First, welcome!  As Eric asks, are you trying out Trafodion as an
experiment, or do you have a particular use case in mind?



The daily build that Amanda mentions is not necessarily ready for real use
- it's a snapshot build and so might contain incomplete fixes, partial
updates, limited documentation, etc.



The developer daily build is not  recommended for general release usage
because it is a snapshot for testing purposes and so the quality
expectations are different.



For more information on the daily build (especially if you're going to try
to install it), you can see the development list by subscribing to
dev-subscr...@apache.incubator.trafodion.org .  That list goes into deep
technical details, build mechanics and more - definitely not a
general-purpose user list, as the daily build is not a general-purpose
build!



If you're interested in trying to build Trafodion or checking out a
developer build as part of becoming more deeply involved in Trafodion,
there are plenty of people on the dev list who can help you out!



We're in the process of putting together Trafodion release 2.0 which is the
official path for supporting Trafodion on Cloudera 5.4.  I've been away at
a conference this week, so haven't seen the latest updates on release 2.0,
but it should be going to release candidate status very soon.



Thanks and again, welcome!



-Carol P.




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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Sharu Gupta  wrote:

Hello,



I am a new user on your mailing list. I was reading the instructions to
download and install Trafodion.



The instructions say that either Cloudera CDH 5.3 or CDH 5.2 are required.
However, I can only find CDH versions 5.4 or higher on

http://www.cloudera.com/downloads/quickstart_vms/5-5.html



Will it be OK to use hadoop distribution by CDH 5.4 or higher?



Thank you,

Sharu

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

+1 for 13



-clr





*From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton

RE: Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing



Option 6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing



Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
field testing!

Comments on 4 & 6?



Cheers, Ken



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
favorite).


Hans



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.



I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
post another version of that.



Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.

Cheers, Ken





On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

+1 on dragon.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!



On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?





Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
carries.



St.Ack







-Carol P.


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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 for Dragon.

The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
complicated with the cursive.





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+10 for dragon! Very cute!



Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
likes... I give it a +0



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
well the yellow elephant!



Regards,

-clr





*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too
much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that
issue.



Dave



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some
time ago, but we never really resolved it.  In the very early days of
Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo
that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a
simple cute dragon.



I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that
we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward.



Dragon standalone -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing

Trafodion name & dragon -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing



I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s
look too similar.



Thoughts?  Should we vote on this?



Cheers, Ken







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Thanks,



Amanda Moran















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Thanks,



Gunnar

*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*







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Thanks,



Gunnar

*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*





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Regards, --Qifan







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Regards, --Qifan

RE: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

Outside of the legal aspect, it looks kind of weird without capitalization
of Apache and Trafodion…



-clr





*From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 5:43 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


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On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as
compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I
feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon
and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.



I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).



With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the
"power by Apache" logo, see URL here
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of
"Apache".



It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus.



Thanks --Qifan



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

-1



Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist.



Rohit