Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.

2006-09-21 Thread Boris Jahn
Hi Timo and Jean-Sebastien,

 Isn't this exaclty what the wiki is for? Just create a page for
  thequestion (as in an empty page for the tutorial) and people will
  createthe tutorial if they feel up to it. It's centralized and
  everyone canedit it.

I agree. Iirc collecting worthfull information from the mailing list was
one of the main reasons to initiate the wiki. The mails are already
collected in two archives and now making new websites with tips from the
list would scatter the information more and more and that's excactly
what we didn't wanted.

  We should not keep the knowledge to ourselves.
 I'll show the example, I will update my website with the trick about
the displacement rendering speed (someone gave me a while ago on this
list).

It would be nice if you could show this at the wiki!?

-- 

Bye
Boris - http://www.3ddart.com -
Realsoft Image Contest - http://www.realsoft.org -






What is the best LINUX distribution would you recommand for realsoft?

2006-09-21 Thread ShaddamIV








What is the best LINUX distribution would you recommand for
realsoft?



Jean-Sebastien Perron

www.neuroworld.ws










RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem

2006-09-21 Thread ShaddamIV








I don't have time to
understand how WIKI work, remember I am lazy and physicly sick.



It's better to host our own
tutorial and Robert can always link transparently to them. That way it is
easier to make changes.



My webstite capacity is 1
gig (there is no limit in fact). So forget WIKI.



I made an update yesterday
on my website www.neuroworld.ws There are some
errors with some links that will be corrected tonight.

And by the end of the
weekend, all the tutorial will be completed.

Please send me your
comments.



What if WIKI dissapear, Who
is WIKI?



Recently, I saw some
messages from WIKI in some of their pages telling the users to remove some
material because there was too much informations not related to an
encyclopedia.



Wiki is just an
encyclopedia, not a place to store informations.

I believe that sooner or
later they will check that people limit their post to essential information.



The best is Robert website
for people without a website.

It's the best realsoft
website.



But remember one thing, My
website is also a publicity, it's a commercial tool. When I created the
tutorial, It wasn't because I wanted to share informations, it was because I
wanted some visit on my website.



I am not writing on this
forum to help people, it's only to make people think of me for my own glory.



So writing on my own website
is an investment, writing on Roberts website is not.



My new e-mail is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Jean-Sebastien
Perron

www.neuroworld.ws





-Message d'origine-

De:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
De la part de studio Envoyé: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:43 PM
À: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet: Re: Ok, OK I will do it,
only because I can. was : no wiki problem



 Ok, anyone with a
usefull article or answer to any realsoft problem:

 -Send me an html file
with a folder of the same name -The title of the 

 article should be the
question -In the foloder should be all the 

 pictures or videos
related to that webpage.

 Jean-Sebastien
Perron

 www.neuroworld.ws



Jean :



  Sorry , I know your heart
is in the right place , but no , this is not a good idea . There is already too
much splintering going on as far as Web Sites with RS inform- ation on them .



  Right , now , in my
opinion , the best thing to do is pick the #1 RS site and work toward expanding
it's know- ledge base . That site , in my humble opinion would have to be
Robert denbroeders Web Site .



  Robert is a selfless
person who is not only a beta-test- er , but also a huge supporter of the
Realsoft3D community in many, many ways . Have a look at his tutorials alone !



http://members.chello.nl/rbroeder/



  BJ is another , but he
runs the forum , which can be very usefull too , of course .



  As I said in an earlier mail
, Satu was in the process of constructing an official , extensive
Realsoft3D Web Site before she left the community (I know she is probably still
around somewhat and wishing I would cool down) (grin) .



 I would say get behind
Robert's initiative with the energy that you have . Get in touch with Robert
and ask him if you could write a tutorial and if he would host it .



 This is really what the
RS3D community actually needs I think. 

A single site for people to
go to first , with extensive tutor- ials and 3D objects  Textures 
Links (etc etc etc) .



  If you look closely at
Roberts Layout you will see he has the most perfect design . It's brilliant ,
actually , by a longshot.

Adding pertinent info to
your own RS3D interface could be as easy as visiting Roberts site and clicking
on your Tab of choice ...



  I myself tried to create
Realsoft3D tutorials that would fit right in with Roberts basic Web Page design
. It's a good solid basic design and easy to use .



  What do you , yourself
think about this suggestion ?



Garry














RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem

2006-09-21 Thread Jean-Sebastien Perron
Ok, that's nice. But, could we store 10meg video tutorial or else?

Jean-Sebastien Perron
www.neuroworld.ca


-Message d'origine-
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Matthias Kappenberg
Envoyé : Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:37 PM
À : user-list@light.realsoft3d.com
Objet : Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem

 
What if WIKI dissapear, Who is WIKI?

Why should it disappear?

Wiki is an OpenSource PHP Project.
The informations in the RS-Wiki has nothing to do
with the wikipedia.org, they are stored not in the
same database, the RS-Wiki is running on another
server (1und1.de).
It's totally independent from other Wikis.

The Domain-Owner is:
Matthias Kappenberg
Gustav-Brandt-Str. 10
D-30173 Hannover
mail(at)the-dimension.com
(That's me)

Hope this is helpy,
Matthias









Re: What is the best LINUX distribution would you recommand for realsoft?

2006-09-21 Thread Marc Michael




Hallo ShaddamIV,







What is the best LINUX distribution would you recommand for realsoft?

Jean-Sebastien Perron
www.neuroworld.ws






I have installed Realsoft3D on SuSE and Debian. At work I've installed Ubuntu. Ubuntu is based on Debian. Ubuntu is focussed on the graphical desktop user. Very easy to install. You insert the CD, boot into the live system, play around and then simply choose from the menu "Install on HD". Nice thing.

In my experience Realsoft3D doesn't need special features of the distribution. So, all Linux Distributions should work. There are three things which needs further investment. First is the GUI library. RS3D need the original Motif-Libs. As I installed it on a Debian Box, I simply copied the binary lib from a SuSE Box. It simply works. An important point is the window manager. RS3D uses extremely the left Alt-Key. But under X11, the left Alt-Key is traditionaly used for manipulating windows. I use BlackBox. BlackBox has the nice feature that I can simply press the Scroll-Lock-Key and the left Alt-Key will be directly routed to the application. That's a nice feature. Another point is the hardware-acceleration of OpenGL. There I have no experience. Ati and Nvidia provide more or less closes source driver for their cards. As I've heard, it's not so hard to install an Nvidia-Card.

The best advise on which Linux-Distribution you should use is simply: Use the distribution your friend uses.  ;-)

--
Viele Grüße,
Yogi Marc Michael





Re: What is the best LINUX distribution would you recommand for realsoft?

2006-09-21 Thread Zaug

George Jenner wrote:
I use Mandriva quite happily.  Simple to set up.  Good francophone 
support if you need it.  Main problem is that Realsoft won't work with 
KDE (or Gnome?) using their default Window Managers.  All is well if 
you run it in IceWM (or use IceWM under KDE).
I run Enlightenment 16(beta) for my window manager, very lightweight, 
fast and has some great window options, like window shading, pager type 
windows that shade either left or right and other nice things. Also 
Enlightenment cooperates well with both Gnome and KDE applications. 
Enlightenment should be available under most major Linux distributions 
and has not ever seemed to be the cause of any issues with RS.


More problematic may be hardware issues.  My Dell wont work with 
Suse.  My Nvidia graphics cards are better supported and recommended 
by Realsoft.  My ADSL modem won't work with anything.  I'd choose a 
distribution for  hardware next time.
I have had little issues with hardware and as far as I know, the best 
reason to use NVidia under Linux is NVidia's Linux support; not quite up 
to the point of the Windows drivers but quite functional.  I have read 
of many troubles and much dissatisfaction concerning ATI cards and 
drivers under Linux. That said, I have no personal experience and have 
not heard tell of the driver  status lately; something I would advise 
anyone thinking of putting together a Linux to system to do before 
purchasing any hardware (hmm, isn't that what George said  ; )


I see now this isn't the linux list.  Will take the opportunity to say 
g'day.  Zaug I'm back down under and chained to a non-3d related desk, 
but when my computer comes out of quarantine (it's in a shipping 
container at Botany Bay waiting for me to find a place to live) I 
promise to  greeble you a city :-)



Greetingz George, I will both hold you to and be looking forward to it  : D

Zaug

--
My love of the  halfling's leaf has clearly slowed my mind.
|8?o



Re: no wiki problem

2006-09-21 Thread studio
 However, since you've commented about the lack of mailing list 
 archives, I offer you my archive.  It goes back 3-4 years and includes 
 all attachments.  I might have lost one or two posts due to past 
 computer hiccups.  If you're interested, email me off-list.
 Amir 

  Thanks for the offer , but I have a very elaborate archive
that goes way-way back to V3.x .

  I feel that I should put you straight , however . I wasn't
asking for help from anyone . I was suggesting that those with
advanced knowledge share it with the community .

  You and Jason are telling me how I should work hard and
learn , but I've known that for many years now .

   I wasn't suggesting that Jason create an advanced Gi
tutorial for me , I feel I have a very good grasp on RS3D
Gi now for the last 2 years .

  I was suggesting Jason share some of his project files ,
or at least create a project file that he could share , so
_THE REST_ of the community could begin to come to grips
wuth RS3D Gi .

  Somehow , you 2 percieve a tiny possibility that I am
asking for myself . If I was , I wouldn't attemp to shame
someone into finally sharing some concrete tutorials , of
course . 

  What I was actually trying to accomplish , was to once
again point out that the Realsoft3D community's success
hinges on selfless giving and sharing via HTML tutorials .

  Not by firing off emails while at work , or showing us
yet another awesome render .

Garry