Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts
Thank you Rewarp and ,excuse the delay of the answer but I have to make some testing before. I use ibus + anthy when I want to write something in japanese using , for example my browser or other applications. I also use jwpce 1.50 (tha is an application not a input method and basically I use it as a dictionary but I can also write and copy and past the text in other files). If I write something in jpwce or with anthy and Copy and Paste it in libreoffice ,everithing works fine. On the other side if I try to write directly in libreoffice using Anthy, the anthy bar disappear and I'cant write a single kana. More, In KDE Anthy doesn't work in anyway while In Gnome anthy work quite fine (except when ibus itself crashes). I dont' know if setting default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified) can make the difference regards AKiko Il 20/04/2011 09:14, Rewarp ha scritto: こんにちは、あきこさん。 You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and paste work correctly for Japanese? Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy (m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy. P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified). On 20 April 2011 04:05, Haruka Akiko haruka.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Il 19/04/2011 20:59, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as non-Japanese. All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being written). Thanks Tom, this exactly what I meant. I'd like that my Operating System/LibreOffice UI remain in Italian or in English, but I need dictionaries and a way to write in japanese kanji/kana for my traning in this language e for write documents for japanese speaker What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be working just fine! Presumably you have already tried Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Enhanced language support and ticked the Enabled for Asian languages tick-box? Then that should have allowed you to change the section above Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Default languages for documents - Asian - Japanese I've already tried but it seems it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I didn't install everything what is needed. Maybe something lacks, now I'm searching in the extension list. At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it. Apols and regards from Tom :) Thanks and regards Akiko From: Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 19 April, 2011 18:54:24 Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts Dear all, I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice ( formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to get rid of it). I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4 Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with appropriate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice. I've tried to set japanese as default language for the currente document but it doesn't work. Maybe I have to install a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to find what install and how make it work. I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for example, because I'm still learning this language and I'd hardly understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface. Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use japanese and can help me? apologize my errors Akiko -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts
Thanks James well Ibus and Anthy work fine when Ibus starts...sometimes it seems to don't want start or to have loose its configurations and I have to re-configure it to make it use Anthy. Definitively I'll try Chinese simplified as default language:) but if it will work I'll really don't know why.. thanks and regards Akiko Il 20/04/2011 10:26, James Wilde ha scritto: On Apr 20, 2011, at 09:14 , Rewarp wrote: こんにちは、あきこさん。 You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and paste work correctly for Japanese? Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy (m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy. I agree with Rewarp, this is where I had the most problems, finding an input method that worked in Ubuntu. There are reports that Ibus is buggy, and recommendations to use alternatives (can't remember the name now). I tried these and found them equally buggy. Then suddenly I started Ubuntu one day and Ibus worked just like the system on my Mac. I believe the change was after I had done the latest upgrade, and I am now using kernel 2.6.32.30, on Ubuntu 10.4. Unfortunately (for testing) I'm not often in Ubuntu now, since everything works so well on the various Macs. (Just fired up Ubuntu and tested - still works fine. I'm using Chinese py(m17n) input method.) P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified). PS My default Asian language is also Chinese (Simplified) :) On 20 April 2011 04:05, Haruka Akiko haruka.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Il 19/04/2011 20:59, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as non-Japanese. All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being written). Thanks Tom, this exactly what I meant. I'd like that my Operating System/LibreOffice UI remain in Italian or in English, but I need dictionaries and a way to write in japanese kanji/kana for my traning in this language e for write documents for japanese speaker What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be working just fine! Presumably you have already tried Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Enhanced language support and ticked the Enabled for Asian languages tick-box? Then that should have allowed you to change the section above Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Default languages for documents - Asian - Japanese I've already tried but it seems it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I didn't install everything what is needed. Maybe something lacks, now I'm searching in the extension list. At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it. Apols and regards from Tom :) Thanks and regards Akiko From: Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 19 April, 2011 18:54:24 Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts Dear all, I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice ( formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to get rid of it). I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4 Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with appropriate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice. I've tried to set japanese as default language for the currente document but it doesn't work. Maybe I have to install a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to find what install and how make it work. I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for example, because I'm still learning this language and I'd hardly understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface. Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use japanese and can help me? apologize my errors Akiko -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts
Hi :) I've tried to create a new account but it inherited all the programs and all the settings of the default user. So he has also an italian version of libreoffice :) After work I 'll try to install libreoffice without italian languepack in another machine for now thanks for you aid regards Akiko Il 20/04/2011 13:12, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Would it be possible to set up a new user account and have that account set to simplified Chinese? Or install Ubuntu inside a virtual machine such as VirtualBox so that you can easily compare menus against your Italian menus? System - Administration - Users and Groups Regards from Tom :) From: Rewarprew...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 8:14:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts こんにちは、あきこさん。 You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and paste work correctly for Japanese? Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy (m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy. P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified). On 20 April 2011 04:05, Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Il 19/04/2011 20:59, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as non-Japanese. All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being written). Thanks Tom, this exactly what I meant. I'd like that my Operating System/LibreOffice UI remain in Italian or in English, but I need dictionaries and a way to write in japanese kanji/kana for my traning in this language e for write documents for japanese speaker What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be working just fine! Presumably you have already tried Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Enhanced language support and ticked the Enabled for Asian languages tick-box? Then that should have allowed you to change the section above Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Default languages for documents - Asian - Japanese I've already tried but it seems it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I didn't install everything what is needed. Maybe something lacks, now I'm searching in the extension list. At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it. Apols and regards from Tom :) Thanks and regards Akiko From: Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 19 April, 2011 18:54:24 Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts Dear all, I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice ( formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to get rid of it). I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4 Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with appropriate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice. I've tried to set japanese as default language for the currente document but it doesn't work. Maybe I have to install a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to find what install and how make it work. I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for example, because I'm still learning this language and I'd hardly understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface. Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use japanese and can help me? apologize my errors Akiko -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Clear plan ?
Hello everyone, I am writing to know if there is a specific page dedicated to show what's the future of LibreOffice in terms of features. For example having a page which show what is *expected* in the next version, what is done, what is not and what is expected on the long term (i.e 3.5, 3.6...4) Actually we only have the list of the new features when it's done after the first beta for example. Does such s page exist ? All the best, -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts
Hi :) If you have a spare 15Gb on your hard-drive then you could always install a dual/multi-boot of Ubuntu. The existing Swap would be used by both but i would do anything fancy like sharing /home partitions. The new boot-loader would pick-up your previous install but i would make sure to boot into your stable Ubuntu rather than this new testing one and then do this on the command-line sudo update-grub This would make sure that your old, stable boot-loader got used booting you straight into your preffered options rather than using the new boot-loader which will get wiped when you have finished testing and delete the test partition. Hopefully this makes sense! Please feel free to say wtf?? lol Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: haruka haruka.ak...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 8:29:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts Hi :) I've tried to create a new account but it inherited all the programs and all the settings of the default user. So he has also an italian version of libreoffice :) After work I 'll try to install libreoffice without italian languepack in another machine for now thanks for you aid regards Akiko Il 20/04/2011 13:12, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Would it be possible to set up a new user account and have that account set to simplified Chinese? Or install Ubuntu inside a virtual machine such as VirtualBox so that you can easily compare menus against your Italian menus? System - Administration - Users and Groups Regards from Tom :) From: Rewarprew...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 8:14:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts こんにちは、あきこさん。 You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and paste work correctly for Japanese? Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy (m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy. P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified). On 20 April 2011 04:05, Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Il 19/04/2011 20:59, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as non-Japanese. All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being written). Thanks Tom, this exactly what I meant. I'd like that my Operating System/LibreOffice UI remain in Italian or in English, but I need dictionaries and a way to write in japanese kanji/kana for my traning in this language e for write documents for japanese speaker What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be working just fine! Presumably you have already tried Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Enhanced language support and ticked the Enabled for Asian languages tick-box? Then that should have allowed you to change the section above Tools - Options - + Language - Languages - Default languages for documents - Asian - Japanese I've already tried but it seems it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I didn't install everything what is needed. Maybe something lacks, now I'm searching in the extension list. At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it. Apols and regards from Tom :) Thanks and regards Akiko From: Haruka Akikoharuka.ak...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 19 April, 2011 18:54:24 Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to use japanese ore other language fonts Dear all, I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice ( formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to get rid of it). I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4 Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with appropriate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice. I've tried to set japanese as default language for the currente document but it doesn't work. Maybe I have to install a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to find what install and how make it work. I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for example, because I'm still learning this language and I'd hardly understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface. Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use japanese and can help me? apologize my errors Akiko -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to
[libreoffice-users] Clear Plan ?
Hello everyone, I am writing to know if there is a specific page dedicated to show what's the future of LibreOffice in terms of features. For example having a page which show what is *expected* in the next version, what is done, what is not and what is expected on the long term (i.e 3.5, 3.6...4) Actually we only have the list of the new features when it's done after the first beta for example. Does such a page exist ? All the best, Jiehong -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist?
Hi :) If you do have problems then it might be worth un-installing OpenOffice at that stage and then just re-install LO to make sure it's still all there. OpenOffice is free so you can always go back to re-installing it if you are unhappy with LO. Being unhappy with LO seems unlikely particularly with the stable 3.3.2 (rather than the newer development beta 3.4) Regards from Tom :) From: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: libreofficez...@gmail.com; putaangz...@gmail.com; openofficezomi openofficez...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 4:29:22 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? *Thank you for the info. I have just downloaded LibreOffice 3.3.2 for Windows. It is now 11:29 PM, so I will install it sometime later, perhaps tomorrow.* -- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? To: users@libreoffice.org With that info, yes they can co-exist as you will download from the respective servers. Download and install each. You will have to decide which you wish to be the default for ODF files. Andy Taang Zomi wrote: *Dear Andy, Thank you for your prompt reply. Sorry that my question was not complete. I use Win 7, 32-bit, 4GB RAM.* -- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Browna...@the-martin-byrd.net Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? To: users@libreoffice.org Taang Zomi wrote: *Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org co-exist on the same computer? Or do I need to uninstall OpenOffice.org if I want to install LibreOffice?* Depends on your OS. For the most part you can install both if you download from the respective site. Using repositories for some Linux distros has been reporting problems. HTH Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist?
Hi :) It is best to uninstall OpenOffice. OOo sometimes has a quick-launcher thing always open in the system-tray and that can interfere with LO. There have been other problems too but often people manage to have both so try it and see ;) If you are unlucky both LO and OOo are free so you can try another way until you are happy. :) Regards from Tom :) From: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: libreofficez...@gmail.com; putaangz...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 2:50:19 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? *Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org co-exist on the same computer? Or do I need to uninstall OpenOffice.org if I want to install LibreOffice?* -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Clear Plan ?
Hi :) I imagine the various companies such as RedHat and Cannonical have aimsobjectives road-mapped and these might have been combined with outstanding bug-reports in the developers areas. Marketing and Design might have other lists relevant specifically to them and perhaps the Steering group has an over-all plan. Right now i would suspect that our fresh start has thrown things open a bit so that decisions about a road-map might be wide open again. Regards from Tom :) From: Jiehong Ma ma.jieh...@gmail.com To: users users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 10:26:39 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Clear Plan ? Hello everyone, I am writing to know if there is a specific page dedicated to show what's the future of LibreOffice in terms of features. For example having a page which show what is *expected* in the next version, what is done, what is not and what is expected on the long term (i.e 3.5, 3.6...4) Actually we only have the list of the new features when it's done after the first beta for example. Does such a page exist ? All the best, Jiehong -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
The continual request to make LO more compatible with M$ office is a strategic mistake. A business that cannot afford M$ software licences for the benefit of that business' customers does not deserve to be in existence. A business that receives profits from customers that demand to use M$ software should simply pay the licences to meet their customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing business. There is no justification for complaining to the open source community for choosing to use a product that is incompatible with their customers. Any business using open source software to generate a private profit should put their money where their mouth is; pay for software to meet business needs or don't use it and pay for proprietary software instead! LO programmers should concentrate on making a good software product; that should be the priority. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
Hi :) I don't quite understand the points here. There seems to be an assumption that all businesses sell MS Office. I must have missed the point. Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 12:51:05 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office The continual request to make LO more compatible with M$ office is a strategic mistake. A business that cannot afford M$ software licences for the benefit of that business' customers does not deserve to be in existence. A business that receives profits from customers that demand to use M$ software should simply pay the licences to meet their customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing business. There is no justification for complaining to the open source community for choosing to use a product that is incompatible with their customers. Any business using open source software to generate a private profit should put their money where their mouth is; pay for software to meet business needs or don't use it and pay for proprietary software instead! LO programmers should concentrate on making a good software product; that should be the priority. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
Ahah, i knew i missed something! Unfortunately LibreOffice documents don't ever seem to get corrupted and there are no incompatibility issues between different releases of LO, unlike with MS Office and their formats. There only seems to be this issue about mp3 and video in ppt/pps. Writer and Calc just seem to translate formats fairly easily almost all the time. So it's really a very specific issue that could probably be fixed by Gsoc or the Vietnamese one, or perhaps by regular devs. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: users users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 13:35:41 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office The point is, the business user receives a document in m$ word, is not prepared to pay for m$ office and so _chooses_ to use LO, then complains that LO is incompatible (never that m$o is incompatible with LO! Or ODF!). When a business user (who hopefully has made a donation to the FOSS community since higher profits may have been obtained by using OSS) receives an LO Writer document from a customer that has been corrupted during transmission between LO programs installed on customer and supplier computers, _that_ is of higher priority to resolve. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
On 04/21/2011 08:35 AM, e-letter wrote: The point is, the business user receives a document in m$ word, is not prepared to pay for m$ office and so _chooses_ to use LO, then complains that LO is incompatible (never that m$o is incompatible with LO! Or ODF!). The only issue I see is with MSO's .docx Open Document type of documents that came out with MSO 2007. The original file formats work just fine. How about the compatibility issues with MSO 2010 documents being read with 2007? Have been told be some that there are issues there. The problem is not that LibreOffice is not compatible with MSO, but MSO users are using a bad file format to begin with. MSO could not provide any working documentation to the ISO committee when they wanted their x formats to be the standard. IF MSO cannot provide the documentation on how their own formats work when they wanted it to be the standard for the world to use, then how are others to get them to work. That is the real issue. If all users dump the formats MSO created for 2007, and beyond, saving their documents in .doc, .xlt, etc., then their would be no issue with compatibility. Switching from .doc to .odt could be an issue for them in the short term, since MSO mangled their ability to read/write files in ODF's ISO standard file formats [maybe on purpose]. As for blaming the user for choosing LibreOffice and then complaining about compatibility, that is never a good idea. OOo never upgraded their Migration Guide from the 2.x version. Maybe LibreOffice should make a separate guide to migrating to LibreOffice that points out step by step how to make sure all their files will be compatible with LibreOffice and 90%+ of all other non-MS office suite packages. Give them a simple, easy to read document that gives the user the guidelines on how to switch from MSO to LibreOffice. Do not make it a part of a larger document. Make it small and easy so that the average user can read it in his/her spare time before they dump MSO and not get their files in order. I tell people to use LibreOffice [OOo before] and keep MSO on their systems till they get to the point where they do not need MSO to re-save internal/external generated documents to be compatible with LibreOffice [OOo, and most other office suite that people may use]. I still get documents that cannot be read properly by LibreOffice [OOo] or MSO. When a business user (who hopefully has made a donation to the FOSS community since higher profits may have been obtained by using OSS) receives an LO Writer document from a customer that has been corrupted during transmission between LO programs installed on customer and supplier computers, _that_ is of higher priority to resolve. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] App for TDF
Dear Tom, I don't know who will care my opinions but I am ready to confirm your contributions. Please just advice me what to do. Regards, *Cevad OZTUG* ** On 20/04/11 14:34, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Please could i list you as my contact / verifier person for the application form? http://www.documentfoundation.org/application-for-tdf-community-membership/ Please list at least two contacts who can confirm your contributions or indicate to the Membership Committee the best way to verify your contributions. You should provide their name, a valid e-mail address to contact them and a brief description of their role as a reference. Two contacts is good but only one is mandatory. Don't worry if you feel uncomfortable about this. I have asked a couple of other people if they wouldn't mind. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
Hello On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 13:35 +0100, e-letter wrote: The point is, the business user receives a document in m$ word, is not prepared to pay for m$ office and so _chooses_ to use LO, then complains that LO is incompatible (never that m$o is incompatible with LO! Or ODF!). When a business user (who hopefully has made a donation to the FOSS community since higher profits may have been obtained by using OSS) receives an LO Writer document from a customer that has been corrupted during transmission between LO programs installed on customer and supplier computers, _that_ is of higher priority to resolve. The Office XP and earlier convert properly, it is Office 2007+ formats (.docx, .xlsx, etc.) convert erratically. Conversion of the newer formats depends on the features embedded in the document. Simple documents see to convert properly. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Execute LibreOffice externally
Hi, Is there a mechanism that can be used to execute Calc externally? Right now, Python can open and execute MS Excel, just like a hands-on user, insert content into cells, etc. If this could be done in LO, hooray. (I'll still keep using LO, whether or not.) Leon Stevens Voice: 573-681-5855 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 21/04/11 11:06 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: That is the real issue. If all users dump the formats MSO created for 2007, and beyond, saving their documents in .doc, .xlt, etc., then their would be no issue with compatibility. Which is why most of the old OOo (and now LO) documentation recommends saving to MS Word 97/2000/XP versions when you want to play nice with MS users. Switching from .doc to .odt could be an issue for them in the short term, since MSO mangled their ability to read/write files in ODF's ISO standard file formats [maybe on purpose]. There was some discussion of that at the time. MS were also trying to obtain some fairly broad software patents to try and force ODF out of the market, but since ODF already existed it counted as prior art and the patents weren't granted (except, rather notoriously, in New Zealand). As for blaming the user for choosing LibreOffice and then complaining about compatibility, that is never a good idea. Definitely not. I've come very close to kill-filing someone on this list behaving this way (along with certain daft statements about the origin of internetworking) and I've only been subscribed for less than a week. OOo never upgraded their Migration Guide from the 2.x version. Maybe LibreOffice should make a separate guide to migrating to LibreOffice that points out step by step how to make sure all their files will be compatible with LibreOffice and 90%+ of all other non-MS office suite packages. Give them a simple, easy to read document that gives the user the guidelines on how to switch from MSO to LibreOffice. Do not make it a part of a larger document. Make it small and easy so that the average user can read it in his/her spare time before they dump MSO and not get their files in order. This is an *excellent* idea. Perhaps you should forward it to the documentation mailing list? Regards, Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAk2wMWEACgkQNxrFv6BK4xMbawCg3+7o7dESofTg6n9MhzYgbNmz EEkAnjld/magv4+pj8l/HKAK4Bi+9hqc =eEj3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist?
*Thank you very much for your input.* -- Forwarded message -- From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? To: users@libreoffice.org Hi :) It is best to uninstall OpenOffice. OOo sometimes has a quick-launcher thing always open in the system-tray and that can interfere with LO. There have been other problems too but often people manage to have both so try it and see ;) If you are unlucky both LO and OOo are free so you can try another way until you are happy. :) Regards from Tom :) From: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: libreofficez...@gmail.com; putaangz...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 2:50:19 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org Co-exist? *Can OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice.org co-exist on the same computer? Or do I need to uninstall OpenOffice.org if I want to install LibreOffice?* -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Version 3.4 Features List
Posting one article today - for a future article I'd like to get my hands on a features list for 3.4 Wayne -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Version 3.4 Features List
Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 18:58, Wayne Borean wrote: Posting one article today - for a future article I'd like to get my hands on a features list for 3.4 LibreOffice 3.4 changes http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.4 This is an in-progress scratch-pad of notes to build release notes from as and when we release. [...] mjk -- TDF Planet http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Execute LibreOffice externally
Leon, On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 10:20 -0500, Stevens, Leon wrote: Hi, Is there a mechanism that can be used to execute Calc externally? Right now, Python can open and execute MS Excel, just like a hands-on user, insert content into cells, etc. If this could be done in LO, hooray. (I'll still keep using LO, whether or not.) Leon Stevens Voice: 573-681-5855 What OS are you using? Depending on the OS you might use the command or terminal to run it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Swedish Grammar Check
Hello, I currently use Open Office on Ubuntu and was wondering about multilingual support in Libra Office. Specifically, does anyone know if the grammar check available for Swedish in Libra Office will correct definite and indefinite article errors (en / ett)? That is my one complaint about Open Office. In this regard, it just doesn't perform as well as Microsoft Office :-( Thank you, John -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Swedish Grammar Check
tor 2011-04-21 klockan 21:03 +0200 skrev John Niendorf: Hello, I currently use Open Office on Ubuntu and was wondering about multilingual support in Libra Office. Specifically, does anyone know if the grammar check available for Swedish in Libra Office will correct definite and indefinite article errors (en / ett)? That is my one complaint about Open Office. In this regard, it just doesn't perform as well as Microsoft Office :-( Thank you, John As far as I know there is no such thing in Swedish, neither for OpenOffice.org nor LibreOffice, but I think there is some kind of work going on. -- Vänliga hälsningar Johnny Rosenberg -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Basic ChDir not functioning on Windows 7
I have a Basic macro in Calc, which includes a ChDir statement. This compiles and executes with no error, but does not in fact change the working directory. Looking in the source code (I've not yet ever done a build), I see that there is an #ifdef in the code. Does anyone know if this define is turned on for Windows systems? Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Basic-ChDir-not-functioning-on-Windows-7-tp2848489p2848489.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: Unsubscribe
On 2011-04-20 11:01 PM, Len Philpot wrote: So is there any other way other than the (non-functional) email method to unsub from this list? It works fine, as long as you 1. know how to read, 2. understand that you may have to check your spam folder for the returned instructions, especially if you have a brain-dead spam filter, and 3. actually take the time to read *and* *follow* the instructions you receive Of course, a lot of people don't possess these simple abilities, hence all of the noise on the list about how to unsub. -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Execute LibreOffice externally
Running WinXP, all SP applied. Leon Stevens steve...@lincolnu.edu -Original Message- From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 14:02 PM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Execute LibreOffice externally Leon, On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 10:20 -0500, Stevens, Leon wrote: Hi, Is there a mechanism that can be used to execute Calc externally? Right now, Python can open and execute MS Excel, just like a hands-on user, insert content into cells, etc. If this could be done in LO, hooray. (I'll still keep using LO, whether or not.) Leon Stevens Voice: 573-681-5855 What OS are you using? Depending on the OS you might use the command or terminal to run it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/04/2011 18:10, t...@iafrica.com wrote: Someone please show me LibO can communicate with all basic MS packages i.e Word, Excel and PP. LibO is as compatible with MSO file formats are as MSO is compatible with MSO. Furthermore,depending upon which version of MSO you are using, LibO can be more compatible with MSO file format that you were sent. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNsKYVAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVsgAIAMElcGiRC/T7KZv22PGdDwtp Zm/GJUxySOppL/PofFgbeiKaeZux8fkvh78OdUyEj1NiDk9FmYnDOSY8ZBxm2TSL 3QjODKQukyXmg+JFnWzxRMk0P3CfEvulHc2fD08wnkg6yT34A87E71pHa7V92PBv CxYg5GPuO9hVCuBouXg653IM+jL/Yw3akMJNuZXKdg6iLbgwlwHv+il5J2Dlvlsn JPYryr+H4MPEImJ3+5/GSR6mNwCxFFsH90wEAja0P4w/iMaCqxuH6y2S/AQ3OzuW p3zBhQLNyB5go9cE62B7PnaOoorm6tx+CN5VX3e4Tly4zBVyW9Z6FoZOfYU4wMw= =Q6sL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: Unsubscribe
I think the instructions given at the bottom of the thread should go straight to the point: to unsubscribe from the list send mail to users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org not users+help@... IMHO!! Regards, Luiz Oliveira On 2011-04-20 11:01 PM, Len Philpot wrote: So is there any other way other than the (non-functional) email method to unsub from this list? It works fine, as long as you 1. know how to read, 2. understand that you may have to check your spam folder for the returned instructions, especially if you have a brain-dead spam filter, and 3. actually take the time to read *and* *follow* the instructions you receive Of course, a lot of people don't possess these simple abilities, hence all of the noise on the list about how to unsub. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/04/2011 11:51, e-letter wrote: A business that receives profits from customers that demand to use M$ software should simply pay the licences to meet their customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing business. I can't tell which of the following statements you mean: * If a company is Microsoft only, it should pay all of the Microsoft licenses for their vendors; * If a company is Microsoft only, it should pay all of the Microsoft licenses for their customers; * If a company is Microsoft only, it should pay all of the Microsoft licenses for their suppliers; * If a company is FLOSS only, it should abolish that position, and use Microsoft products; Any business using open source software to generate a private profit should put their money where their mouth is; a) Do you know how many employees the average business in the united states has? b) Do you have any idea how difficult it was for non-Sun clients to get features and functions added to OOo? c) Do you have any idea what the learning curve involved in knowing how to code for OOo was/is? Those three factors mitigated against organizations that were not in the IT industry from even considering customizations of OOo, much less paying for them. Once two or three organizations offer Level 4 Support for LibO, you'll see organizations that are willing to pay for the features that they want/need/desire. That is also when you'll start seeing non-IT organizations sending their customizations back upstream. LO programmers should concentrate on making a good software product; that should be the priority. One of the major criteria that businesses use in selecting software, is compatibility with their existing work-product. In terms of office suites, that usually means the ability to read, write, and edit documents in a Microsoft file format as well as, if not better than MSO can read, write, and edit those documents. Different organizations define the compatibility line differently. Personally, I consider microsoft file formats to be never twice same output formats, and hence best discarded. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNsK6rAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVkxwIAKIGnYYnnsxDY0cHOVJQVQ8i Eiv75PNSjmzwdtdlO3z/kCxWmnXlmg4L6NmkrfjxD850w6tVYe5DhUPbz0agDqon ZfARH/sGnMEylMwoMRiNDOPJkqcUifcV282rLYcXgPVFj7CtaguWY7a4DxYLpqXA PG7/txWEfIEbLSmVC1UtO8TsO8j1oT1XchQnqJchXTq5vFS/fKzooVO0cH5mH0DR 9SDKb1ljyC/9//dWlQU8M5++2ttj3giEplYaLU5Y548IomgYs1ul1yMOYzyBg1tv RMQSt9vkfN/SCSs5rM3cekvlYHP//9+9nVeL2o3zpYwfUuz/AEBXKzllK9H1E3s= =hf4n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/04/2011 12:35, e-letter wrote: The point is, the business user receives a document in m$ word, is not prepared to pay for m$ office You are assuming that microsoft offers a product for the platform used by the business. That is no longer a safe assumption. community since higher profits may have been obtained by using OSS) Just what makes you think that either net profit, or gross profit is necessarily higher using FLOSS, than using non-FLOSS? jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNsK/7AAoJEERA7YuLpVrVVokH/RgaApKpHU11MpPnxP5qJjQO Zv2dx45bsYI0a4+a7zklKCEUFUfPrW7NesoaTk0ZWuH/e+tSKK2Wr8FS24zxva7r h1iPyQTufhOlK8Ly4vT4vdQZqkIoUEhBBX2Ajnh6rRevPi58BpXKYrvAHxvIgyvo OY4XCWyFqi4UVNwDzubG7tRIDFOZOqI7TIwAmCvBdcoCDCnYX6unHpjI+MAP+4qi tizbGYtdPh22lBH9GCNJoRJPGFwvDeuf5C9jy/RsbL9JoPk1aWxgXeyGRdEXgBNj 52ST2kWC8baOk2uE9OFShmSeVFzlVR1Z/aLDSUjKWietRPA1YSKZUJBwnL1vP0A= =o5BT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Version 3.4 Features List
Thank you - looked, couldn't find it. Wayne On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Manfred J. Krause courrier.oou.fr@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 18:58, Wayne Borean wrote: Posting one article today - for a future article I'd like to get my hands on a features list for 3.4 LibreOffice 3.4 changes http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.4 This is an in-progress scratch-pad of notes to build release notes from as and when we release. [...] mjk -- TDF Planet http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Version 3.4 Features List
Double thank you Manfred, you got it to me quick enough that I was able to get it into the current article, which is about the differences between OO and LO. Note that I'm not dumping on anyone for the differences, I'm just pointing out that they exist, and that if you need certain features, I.E. MS Works import, you have to use LO instead of OO. I did mention the problems with 3.4 Beta 1. Sorry, I'm a reporter, and it is news :) Wayne On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Manfred J. Krause courrier.oou.fr@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 18:58, Wayne Borean wrote: Posting one article today - for a future article I'd like to get my hands on a features list for 3.4 LibreOffice 3.4 changes http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.4 This is an in-progress scratch-pad of notes to build release notes from as and when we release. [...] mjk -- TDF Planet http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Compatibility 2
On 04/20/2011 07:21 AM, planas wrote: ... The only time I have ever see an office suite removed is when I used the Ubuntu repository to install LO, OOo was removed by the OS. This is a Linux only issue when using the repository. I do not know if other Linux distros do this. If you installed LO without using the Ubuntu software management you can install LO along side OOo. The installation of other suites (KOffice in Linux) or office software does not affect LO in Linux. And therein lies the problem with the Ubuntu PPA and everything associated with it. Hence the reason why you should just install directly from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ Anyone that is foolish enough to follow the advise on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice should have their head examined. Not only does Fabian Rodriguez advise against using the LO debs: quote If you're using Ubuntu, don't install LibreOffice manually from the .deb files available at LibreOffice.org. Otherwise you will not get automatic updates upgrades when new versions come out and you will be missing the integration to Ubuntu. Using official packages also ensures you get the best assistance from the community as this is the recommended method to install use LibreOffice in Ubuntu. /quote He then goes on to advise this: quote Please note OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice don't coexist. Install LibreOffice following these instructions will effectively remove OpenOffice.org. /quote Now, if you are of a mind to muck about with the Ubuntu PPA's and wish to help them troubleshoot the mess, be my guest have at it. Also notice: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa https://bugs.launchpad.net/~libreoffice has zaro bugs. This is because all of the Ubuntu users that have installed this PPA version wind up reporting the bugs in the standard LO or Unbuntu OOo. Fabian neglects to mention that the Ubuntu related bugs should be filed here instead: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice or is it: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact LibreOffice Packaging. https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/~libreoffice Just install from LO unless you are using Ubuntu Natty (aka the next linux Vista) 11.04 and be done with it. ... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Execute LibreOffice externally
On 2011-04-21 17:20, Stevens, Leon wrote: Hi, Is there a mechanism that can be used to execute Calc externally? Right now, Python can open and execute MS Excel, just like a hands-on user, insert content into cells, etc. I guess what you are searching for is the LibreOffice SDK with the UNO bridge. You can remote-control LibreOffice from Python, CSharp (currently not working, but will be functional in 3.4 again), Java and some other languages. You can run LibreOffice in hidden mode or visible. From the program code, you can access any functionality that the normal user has. This was already available in OpenOffice as well, and you can find code examples and howto's by searching the web for OpenOffice UNO or LibreOffice UNO. The OpenOffice examples should in general work for LibreOffice as well, except for some minor differences that can occur. Greetings, Wolfgang. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
