Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 26/04/2011 02:54, David Nelson wrote:


Feel free to sign up for the list...


Where's the list to be found?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 15:51, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26/04/2011 02:54, David Nelson wrote:

 Feel free to sign up for the list...

 Where's the list to be found?

You'll find all details here:

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/25/2011 09:54 PM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

I would not mind getting this tutorial emailed to me - off the list - at
webmas...@krackedpress.com

I am not on thew documentation list[s].

Feel free to sign up for the list... You can download *all* available
documentation content (including stuff that's still in the pipeline
and not yet published) from the LibreOffice Alfresco platform at
http://alfresco.libreoffice.org or
http://documentation.libreoffice.org


David Nelson


Exactly what is an Alfresco account?  Why would you need to have one?

As for the Documentation List[s], I am already on 4 lists already.  
Also, I do not know if I will ever contribute to the 
creation/modification of any LibreOffice documentation, due to my brain 
injuries.  Clear communication can be a problem at times when I deal 
with typing text.  Three strokes will do that to a person.


As for the documentation out there, I have the latest versions of the 
two available guides;  Getting Started and Writer.  Or at least the ones 
I find at http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/; and the 
WIKI page for documentation.  The LibreOffice-NA.US 
http://libreoffice-na.us/ site is the testing platform for the 
LibreOffice North American Community DVD Project.  Our group is creating 
DVDs that will service the needs of the following communities;  
Canadian, US-American, Mexican, and Latin American, including the 
Hispanic communities.  Currently we have our English DVDs 99% ready for 
publication and are working on the Spanish language version [first draft 
is 50% +/- done] for those DVDs.  The big advantage with our DVDs is the 
extras.  These include as much documentation as we can find.  Look at 
this link to see what we currently have for English; 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html


What we really need now is Spanish language documentation, even if it is 
just the Getting-Started guide.  Also we could use Spanish language 
extensions/add-ons plus sample files.  Right now there is a big void in 
the Spanish language area of documentation, extensions, templates, 
artwork, and sample files.  THEN we have to do it all over with our 
French DVDs, that are needed for French-Canada.


So the question is what is the advantage of an Alfresco account and 
being on the documentation list[s]?  I am on the Projects list[s], the 
International Marketing list, the US Marketing list, and the User's 
list.  Would I really need to be on another one if I will not be able to 
contribute/create/modify the document files?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Basic ChDir not functioning on Windows 7

2011-04-26 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Peter,

pjpuchyr wrote (21-04-11 22:16)

I have a Basic macro in Calc, which includes a ChDir statement.  This
compiles and executes with no error, but does not in fact change the working
directory.  Looking in the source code (I've not yet ever done a build), I
see that there is an #ifdef in the code.  Does anyone know if this define is
turned on for Windows systems?


I have no real idea for the last part of your question.
But the ChDir function does nothing for the directory that LibreOffice 
uses to save a file.

So when saving a file, use the full name (path) as URL.

Kind regards,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

Perhaps you'd prefer just to stay tuned to the Documentation team's
wiki pages and download new documentation as and when it is posted
there.

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
Documentation page[s].

http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
documentation page
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows only
DVD documentation page


I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(



Works for me today.

The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.


For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system specific 
here.


I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and 
the opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.


I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the 
opening page link does not work.  The others do not either.


I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy on 
the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been slowed to 
modem speeds.   :-)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread planas
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 19:27 +0800, David Nelson wrote: 

 Hi, :-)
 
 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 15:51, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  On 26/04/2011 02:54, David Nelson wrote:
 
  Feel free to sign up for the list...
 
  Where's the list to be found?
 
 You'll find all details here:
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
 
 David Nelson
 

How do I access Alfresco, who sets up the user accounts?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Basic ChDir not functioning on Windows 7

2011-04-26 Thread Regina Henschel

Ho Peter,

pjpuchyr schrieb:

I have a Basic macro in Calc, which includes a ChDir statement.  This
compiles and executes with no error, but does not in fact change the working
directory.  Looking in the source code (I've not yet ever done a build), I
see that there is an #ifdef in the code.  Does anyone know if this define is
turned on for Windows systems?


That is bug http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30692
I guess, it will get a wontfix because this function is totally 
outdated. The problem is documented in the help.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 22:20, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
 How do I access Alfresco, who sets up the user accounts?

If you'd like to get a user account, I can create one for you. Writing
to the documentation mailing list is a good way to get in touch with
other Alfresco admins, too.

Would you like to work on documentation with us?

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-users] Insert picture in existing picture - different behavior from openoffice

2011-04-26 Thread Peter Christiansen
Dear users,

I have encountered a problem since opensuse switched to libreoffice
(which otherwise runs much smoother than openoffice).

I often create slides with similar figure layout that I copy and then
insert with new figures. Example: Figures with option 1 (slide 1) and
different figures with option 2 (slide 2). Layout should be identical. 

Old behavior:
When I clicked on the picture and used insert picture the new picture
size would be adjusted to the old picture (and replace it).

New behavior:
It does not do anything to the old picture, but just inserts the picture
in the default size.

Is it possible to have in some way the old behavior?
(in case not, maybe as an option to insert picture?)

Technical aspects:
LibreOffice 3.3.1 
OOO330m19 (Build:8)
tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2
(open suse 11.3)

Cheers,
   Peter
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation

2011-04-26 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-04-25 10:07 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:
 You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during
 installation.

But you also have to choose 'Custom Install' first to be able to
deselect them.

 They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO 
 should not be done.

+1000

The only language related stuff that should be selected by default is
the detected language version of the OS itself.

 It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go 
 through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you
 don't want to install.

Two? I have only ever had to deselect all of the other dictionaries, the
language itself is usually only defaulted to install English.

Or is there another one I've been missing that accounts for why the
properties in 'Add/Remove Programs' still shows the hug string of every
single language even though I only want/need English?

-- 

Best regards,

Charles

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[libreoffice-users] problems with Arabic on Mac

2011-04-26 Thread Tzvi Langermann

I downloaded the latest version of LibreOffice along with the Arabic and Hebrew 
language packs, which I successfully installed on my new Mac, OS 10.6.5. The 
Arabic letters do not join as they are supposed to. Is this a problem yet to be 
fixed, or have I not done something right? Thanks!

Tzvi Langermann

Dept of Arabic, Bar Ilan University

http://www.biu.ac.il/faculty/ytlangermann 
http://www.linkedin.com/in/TzviLangermann




  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/26/2011 10:08 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
Documentation page[s].

http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
documentation page
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows 
only

DVD documentation page


I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(



Works for me today.

The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.


For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system 
specific here.


I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and 
the opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.



modem at 26.4? Well that is really slow, and old?

I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the 
opening page link does not work.  The others do not either.


I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy 
on the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been 
slowed to modem speeds.   :-)


I do not deal with satellite services.  I had the choice of DSL or Cable 
Modem for broadband access.  I choose Cable Modem since I am getting TV, 
Digital Phone, and Broadband access in one package.  If I used DSL, I 
would have had to deal with two companies vying for the services.  The 
DSL company offers Phone, DSL, and Satellite TV.


My upload speeds are about 2 to 3 times standard modem speeds, so 
uploading/sending large files can be a long process.  The DVDs take over 
5 hours to upload [each] to the web site and every time a new version 
comes out, I have to do at least 1.3 GB of uploading.



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[libreoffice-users] -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-26 Thread keeper
I'm attempting to use the -convert-to command line option to convert files
between formats without using LibreOffice's GUI.  I'm using LibreOffice
Portable on Windows XP.  Here's an example command:

LibreOfficePortable.exe -headless -convert-to pdf untitled.odt

The command executes silently (returning no output of any sort), but doesn't
appear to create an output file.

I've tried the command from both the Windows command line and from MSYS.
I've also tried several other variants (such as calling soffice.exe
directly) with the same result.

Has anyone had success with this operation?  I'm not sure whether results
may differ between vanilla LibreOffice and LibreOffice Portable, so I have
also posted this question under LibreOffice Portable's list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread planas
David

On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 22:32 +0800, David Nelson wrote: 

 Hi, :-)
 
 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 22:20, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
  How do I access Alfresco, who sets up the user accounts?
 
 If you'd like to get a user account, I can create one for you. Writing
 to the documentation mailing list is a good way to get in touch with
 other Alfresco admins, too.
 
 Would you like to work on documentation with us?
 
 David Nelson
 

Yes, I would like to help on the documentation.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation

2011-04-26 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/26/2011 11:17 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:

On 2011-04-25 10:07 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:

You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during
installation.

But you also have to choose 'Custom Install' first to be able to
deselect them.


They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO
should not be done.

+1000

The only language related stuff that should be selected by default is
the detected language version of the OS itself.


It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go
through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you
don't want to install.

Two? I have only ever had to deselect all of the other dictionaries, the
language itself is usually only defaulted to install English.

Or is there another one I've been missing that accounts for why the
properties in 'Add/Remove Programs' still shows the hug string of every
single language even though I only want/need English?

For Ubuntu, the install of the DEB file [not through the repositories] 
installed US English, French, and Spanish dictionaries.  For other 
languages, you have to install separate language files.  For Windows, 
you have a choice of All Languages and Multi Languages.  Multi has only 
the most popular languages that are available using LibreOffice.


Yes, the issue of needing to do a Custom Install to choose only the 
language files/dictionaries you want, or need, can be a problem for some 
users.  I wish there was an option in the default install asking you if 
you want any other language files other than US English.


For English dictionaries , I found; Australian, Canadian, Great Britain, 
US, New Zealand, and South African versions.  There are at least 26 
different localized Spanish dictionaries.  For my complete list [that I 
have found online] go to 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict  This is a very 
large list and is a part of the NA Community DVD[s]. I do not know how 
many of these are part of the LibreOffice install for those languages, 
but these can be added through the Extension Manager.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-26 Thread Stevens, Leon
I didn't know this was available. 

Where can I get more info?

Leon Stevens
steve...@lincolnu.edu


-Original Message-
From: keeper [mailto:jon...@xmission.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:48 AM
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] -convert-to command line option on Windows

I'm attempting to use the -convert-to command line option to convert files
between formats without using LibreOffice's GUI.  I'm using LibreOffice
Portable on Windows XP.  Here's an example command:

LibreOfficePortable.exe -headless -convert-to pdf untitled.odt

The command executes silently (returning no output of any sort), but doesn't
appear to create an output file.

I've tried the command from both the Windows command line and from MSYS.
I've also tried several other variants (such as calling soffice.exe
directly) with the same result.

Has anyone had success with this operation?  I'm not sure whether results
may differ between vanilla LibreOffice and LibreOffice Portable, so I have
also posted this question under LibreOffice Portable's list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi planas, :-)

OK, no problem, I'll create a user account for you. Could you just
mail me off-list with your true-life name? Then I'll mail you
credentials.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Tom Davies






From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 18:13:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

On 04/26/2011 10:08 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
 On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
 On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 
 I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
 Documentation page[s].
 
 http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project
 
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
 documentation page
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows only
 DVD documentation page
 
 I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
 in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(
 
 
 Works for me today.
 
 The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
 I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
 4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.
 
 For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system specific here.
 
 I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and the 
opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.
 
modem at 26.4? Well that is really slow, and old?

 I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the opening 
 page 
link does not work.  The others do not either.
 
 I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
exceeded 
my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy on the satellite, 
so my access speed on the satellite has been slowed to modem speeds.   :-)

I do not deal with satellite services.  I had the choice of DSL or Cable Modem 
for broadband access.  I choose Cable Modem since I am getting TV, Digital 
Phone, and Broadband access in one package.  If I used DSL, I would have had to 
deal with two companies vying for the services.  The DSL company offers Phone, 
DSL, and Satellite TV.

My upload speeds are about 2 to 3 times standard modem speeds, so 
uploading/sending large files can be a long process.  The DVDs take over 5 
hours 
to upload [each] to the web site and every time a new version comes out, I have 
to do at least 1.3 GB of uploading.



Hi :)

It is a shame we can't quite organise snail-mail (postal services) to deliver 
new releases to people with limited download capabilities.  A few people do 
seem 
to manage it on a limited scale but hopefully this will be a growth market.  


As for downloading in order to re-upload to another server elsewhere is there 
some way of transferring directly so that we can bypass the download?  
Ubuntu-One and other Cloud services would be useful if they could offer such 
functionality.  


Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Basic ChDir not functioning on Windows 7

2011-04-26 Thread Peter J. Puchyr
Thanks, Regina, for your reply.  The information was helpful.

Unfortunately, this totally outdated function is actually necessary.

I have developed a dll to be called from Basic.  The dll must be
declared in a Basic Declare statement, and that statement requires
that the name of the dll be enclosed in quotations.   If I hard code
the full pathname to the dll in the Declare statement, it all works fine.

The problem is that my client has international offices, and I have no
idea what the path on any given engineer's machine will be.  I know the
name of the dll file itself, and one of the user inputs in the spreadsheet
is
selection of the path to the dll, which is then stored in Basic as a
variable.   By setting the directory using the ChDir statement, the
dll is found and all works well.

As I understand it, the Declare statement cannot use a variable for the
library name.   Hence the need for the ChDir.

The alternative of forcing the clients to put the dll somewhere in the
search
path is not acceptable.   The clients are engineers without administrator
privileges.

I'm not sure what you mean by totally outdated.  Is there some
alternative?

Thanks,
Peter


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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 09:23, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

 Ho Peter,

 pjpuchyr schrieb:

  I have a Basic macro in Calc, which includes a ChDir statement.  This
 compiles and executes with no error, but does not in fact change the
 working
 directory.  Looking in the source code (I've not yet ever done a build), I
 see that there is an #ifdef in the code.  Does anyone know if this define
 is
 turned on for Windows systems?


 That is bug http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30692
 I guess, it will get a wontfix because this function is totally outdated.
 The problem is documented in the help.

 Kind regards
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/26/11 11:13 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 04/26/2011 10:08 AM, Ken Springer wrote:



I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and
the opening page link works. I did not try the other two links.


modem at 26.4? Well that is really slow, and old?


The modem, not so old, it's a 56k data/fax modem.  The phone line?  A 
different story!   LOL  When I first moved here, I actually had a data 
only second phone line installed, that was a lot faster but I've 
forgotten the actual speed.


This speed number is using my voice line, and even if I go straight from 
the computer to the interface box, I only get 28.8.


I'm only doing the modem thing now because the satellite speed has been 
restricted.  So the Mac is using the satellite, and I'm downloading big 
files on the Windows 'puter.  Anyone who wants to call will just have to 
call back!   LOL





I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the
opening page link does not work. The others do not either.

I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac. One, I'm not sure
Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I
exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy
on the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been
slowed to modem speeds. :-)


I do not deal with satellite services. I had the choice of DSL or Cable
Modem for broadband access. I choose Cable Modem since I am getting TV,
Digital Phone, and Broadband access in one package. If I used DSL, I
would have had to deal with two companies vying for the services. The
DSL company offers Phone, DSL, and Satellite TV.

My upload speeds are about 2 to 3 times standard modem speeds, so
uploading/sending large files can be a long process. The DVDs take over
5 hours to upload [each] to the web site and every time a new version
comes out, I have to do at least 1.3 GB of uploading.


Cable and/or DSL is not available here.  However, fiber optics were laid 
last fall to the paved road about 200-300 yards to my house.  But, R.O.W 
for utilities distance means the fiber optics is about a half mile from 
my house.  And I don't know if the phone wiring for everyone in the area 
will have to be replaced or not.


Skybeam, a  type company...  I can't remember the technical 
name, but they use a combo of satellite and land line by beaming from 
your location to a tower, then land line...  has coverage here, but I'm 
at the bottom of a hill and can't see their tower.  Unless I build my 
own tower for my dish!   LOL





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi planas, :-)

You did read the request for your real name, right? I didn't see any
mail from you yet... Or post it here if you prefer.

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[libreoffice-users] crash within seconds of opening a doc.

2011-04-26 Thread Burai
I'm lost, confused  perhaps stupid, but feel free to think what you will. I
have been contentedly using Libreoffice and openoffice before that with few
problems. Occasionally a doc would stall with a Not Responding message and
then usually recover all by itself. But now, for about a month, no such
luck. 
Libreoffice crashes, unknown error almost every time I open a doc. Same
behavior with starting a new doc, same behavior with writer  calc. Same
behavior with removing LO  installing OO. Same behavior in XP sp2
compatility. I would like to disable auto-update, but I don't see that
option in Tools-Options in this version. And I don't see anyone else
reporting this problem. 
Windows 7 starter, 2 GB ram, netbook with Intel Atom N550. LO 3.3.2 (or OO
3.3.0)

Thanks for your patience,

Burai

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Re: [libreoffice-users] crash within seconds of opening a doc.

2011-04-26 Thread planas
Burai,

On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 10:49 -0700, Burai wrote: 

 I'm lost, confused  perhaps stupid, but feel free to think what you will. I
 have been contentedly using Libreoffice and openoffice before that with few
 problems. Occasionally a doc would stall with a Not Responding message and
 then usually recover all by itself. But now, for about a month, no such
 luck. 
 Libreoffice crashes, unknown error almost every time I open a doc. Same
 behavior with starting a new doc, same behavior with writer  calc. Same
 behavior with removing LO  installing OO. Same behavior in XP sp2
 compatility. I would like to disable auto-update, but I don't see that
 option in Tools-Options in this version. And I don't see anyone else
 reporting this problem. 
 Windows 7 starter, 2 GB ram, netbook with Intel Atom N550. LO 3.3.2 (or OO
 3.3.0)
 
 Thanks for your patience,
 
 Burai
 
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Do you have similar lock ups with other programs open? Windows locks up
on me regularly and I have not traced the cause for it. I am asking to
see if the problem is an OO/LO or caused by another program that is a
resource hog.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] BUG: crash on exit (3.4b2)

2011-04-26 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 20:47, Trever L. Adams wrote:
 This may be related to the bug which has been fixed that caused a crash
 on startup when in  a domain with folder redirection. I seem to be able
 to use LibreOffice, but on exit it crashes. I am not getting any useful
 data.

 I have changed the rulers to be inches and then closed the program, it
 then crashes.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

Yes.
Please have a look at
Bug 36301 - Crash on exit from LibreOffice
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36301
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Fixed in LibO 3.4 beta 3 (available by the end of the week)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread LSadler
Ken

I don't know where you live . One option that is available here is
called a dry line . This means the copper telephone line is used for
data, not voice, and is configured for DSL . Assuming the phone company
can provide DSL service, this can provide internet, and VOIP and replace
satellite service assuming you both want and can get alternative service .

L

On 26 Apr 11 1:55 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
 On 4/26/11 11:13 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 On 04/26/2011 10:08 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

 I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and
 the opening page link works. I did not try the other two links.

 modem at 26.4? Well that is really slow, and old?

 The modem, not so old, it's a 56k data/fax modem.  The phone line?  A
 different story!   LOL  When I first moved here, I actually had a data
 only second phone line installed, that was a lot faster but I've
 forgotten the actual speed.

 This speed number is using my voice line, and even if I go straight
 from the computer to the interface box, I only get 28.8.

 I'm only doing the modem thing now because the satellite speed has
 been restricted.  So the Mac is using the satellite, and I'm
 downloading big files on the Windows 'puter.  Anyone who wants to call
 will just have to call back!   LOL


 I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the
 opening page link does not work. The others do not either.

 I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac. One, I'm not sure
 Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I
 exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy
 on the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been
 slowed to modem speeds. :-)

 I do not deal with satellite services. I had the choice of DSL or Cable
 Modem for broadband access. I choose Cable Modem since I am getting TV,
 Digital Phone, and Broadband access in one package. If I used DSL, I
 would have had to deal with two companies vying for the services. The
 DSL company offers Phone, DSL, and Satellite TV.

 My upload speeds are about 2 to 3 times standard modem speeds, so
 uploading/sending large files can be a long process. The DVDs take over
 5 hours to upload [each] to the web site and every time a new version
 comes out, I have to do at least 1.3 GB of uploading.

 Cable and/or DSL is not available here.  However, fiber optics were
 laid last fall to the paved road about 200-300 yards to my house. 
 But, R.O.W for utilities distance means the fiber optics is about a
 half mile from my house.  And I don't know if the phone wiring for
 everyone in the area will have to be replaced or not.

 Skybeam, a  type company...  I can't remember the
 technical name, but they use a combo of satellite and land line by
 beaming from your location to a tower, then land line...  has coverage
 here, but I'm at the bottom of a hill and can't see their tower. 
 Unless I build my own tower for my dish!   LOL





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Basic ChDir not functioning on Windows 7

2011-04-26 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Peter,

Peter J. Puchyr schrieb:

Thanks, Regina, for your reply.  The information was helpful.

Unfortunately, this totally outdated function is actually necessary.

I have developed a dll to be called from Basic.  The dll must be
declared in a Basic Declare statement, and that statement requires
that the name of the dll be enclosed in quotations.   If I hard code
the full pathname to the dll in the Declare statement, it all works fine.

The problem is that my client has international offices, and I have no
idea what the path on any given engineer's machine will be.  I know the
name of the dll file itself, and one of the user inputs in the spreadsheet
is
selection of the path to the dll, which is then stored in Basic as a
variable.   By setting the directory using the ChDir statement, the
dll is found and all works well.

As I understand it, the Declare statement cannot use a variable for the
library name.   Hence the need for the ChDir.

The alternative of forcing the clients to put the dll somewhere in the
search
path is not acceptable.   The clients are engineers without administrator
privileges.

I'm not sure what you mean by totally outdated.  Is there some
alternative?


A lot of things are done nowadays using UNO. But dll is a special case, 
so you should ask in d...@api.openoffice.org.


kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] crash within seconds of opening a doc.

2011-04-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Answers will usually be at the bottom of the thread.  i top-post now just 
because that is probably more familiar to you as it is to most people.

Win7 with 2Gb should be ok, especially if you don't have tons of other programs 
open at the same time.  The 3.3.2 (or OOo's 3.3.0) 'should' be stable.

There could be a number of causes;
1.  Do you have both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed at the same time?  If 
so then try un-installing OpenOffice and then re-install LO using the installer 
you already have.  Even without re-installing LO just un-installing OpenOffice 
can fix the problem.  You can always return to OpenOffice as both are free to 
install.  OpenOffice and LibreOffice use some identically named things which 
often causes problems if the OpenOffice QuickLauncher is used.  There are 
probably other conflicts too.  Uninstalling might possibly uninstall some 
things 
that LibreOffice needs although i've not heard of that happening so far.

2. Fragmentation or other maintenance issue in Windows generally.  Are other 
apps sluggish or unpredictable and possibly crashing?  It could be a good idea 
to do some back-ups and then some routine maintenance such as defrag.  If 
fragmentation is really bad then Perfect Disk sometimes do a free-trial for 1 
month and they tend to be a LOT better than MS's defrag tools.  


3.  Perhaps LibreOffice didn't download and install properly.  I don't know if 
we have md5sum or similar way of checking that the download worked.  The 
easiest 
and quickest check is to simply try to re-install the LibreOffice you already 
downloaded (see option 1 above).  If the 2nd re-install doesn't work then it 
might be worth re-downloading to try again.

Please let us know how this goes and keep us informed.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Burai bu...@pvzen.org
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 18:49:46
Subject: [libreoffice-users] crash within seconds of opening a doc.

I'm lost, confused  perhaps stupid, but feel free to think what you will. I
have been contentedly using Libreoffice and openoffice before that with few
problems. Occasionally a doc would stall with a Not Responding message and
then usually recover all by itself. But now, for about a month, no such
luck. 
Libreoffice crashes, unknown error almost every time I open a doc. Same
behavior with starting a new doc, same behavior with writer  calc. Same
behavior with removing LO  installing OO. Same behavior in XP sp2
compatility. I would like to disable auto-update, but I don't see that
option in Tools-Options in this version. And I don't see anyone else
reporting this problem. 
Windows 7 starter, 2 GB ram, netbook with Intel Atom N550. LO 3.3.2 (or OO
3.3.0)

Thanks for your patience,

Burai

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 27/04/11 2:08 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
Documentation page[s].

http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
documentation page
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows 
only

DVD documentation page


I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(



Works for me today.

The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.


For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system 
specific here.


I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and 
the opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.


I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the 
opening page link does not work.  The others do not either.


I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy 
on the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been 
slowed to modem speeds.   :-)



All work fine on my mac, FF. Excellent documentation.
steve

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc and datapilot

2011-04-26 Thread JZ1982
Hi Jay,

Thanks for the reply though I made a mistake in the topic. I'm trying to get
this done with Spreadsheet and not Calc.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/26/11 1:44 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Where are you located at? Generally located which Town/State/Country?
I am in Elmira, New York, USA.


Would you believe..  I'm 45 minutes, @35 miles from downtown 
Colorado Springs, CO.   :-)  But I'm at 9,000', almost on the money, 
west in the Colorado Rockies.


If you'd like more details on the location, on a personal level, I can 
send a Google Maps link via email, and a couple of photos.  I don't mind 
at all.


But my location just points out the fact that many people, companies, 
developers, etc., set things up these days just seeming to assume 
everyone has high speed internet.



I may be able to pop a DVD in the snail-mail to you next week, if you
are in the USA.


Thanks for the offer, but there is absolutely no need for the files. 
When I first went to check out the site, I had the impression your group 
was creating something different that what is on the LO website.  And 
I've already got those files, but maybe not the latest.


And the slow speed is temporary.  I just have to wait it out, and my 
download overage will have expired, and I'll have my 1.0 mbps I'm 
paying for.  And as we all know, that's the max speed I can expect, no 
guarantee.


If I live in the right spot in Colorado Springs, I could sign up for 40 
mbps for about the same as I'm paying for 1.0.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/26/11 1:03 PM, LSadler wrote:

Ken

I don't know where you live . One option that is available here is
called a dry line . This means the copper telephone line is used for
data, not voice, and is configured for DSL . Assuming the phone company
can provide DSL service, this can provide internet, and VOIP and replace
satellite service assuming you both want and can get alternative service .


With current phone regs, there's probably a half dozen phone companies I 
can contract with for DSL.  The problem is the physical phone line, the 
quality of the lines aren't up to it.


I wouldn't be surprised if I researched it, I'd find the lines were 
buried before anyone even dreamed of something called DSL.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/26/11 1:32 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:


All work fine on my mac, FF. Excellent documentation.
steve


I'm sure once I'm out of Wild Blue's penalty box there will be no problem.

FYI, Hughesnet users also have a usage agreement, but it's just worded 
differently.  I've heard the Hughesnet's usage agreement can sometimes 
cause problems downloading Linux Live CD/DVD's do to the filesizes.




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Carl Lill

 Unsubscribe me .. I have no idea what you all are talking about in the last 90 
emails I got from you all.  I had written in earlier to 'libre' simply asking 
for a phone number to contact Libre about questions I have - recently had it 
installed and need to TALK with a live person about it.   If you can sent me an 
phone # I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise unsubscribe me.  Thanks L.D.
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 From: snows...@dishmail.net
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload
 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:08:13 -0600
 
 On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
  On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
  On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 
  I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
  Documentation page[s].
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
  documentation page
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows only
  DVD documentation page
 
  I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
  in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(
 
 
  Works for me today.
 
  The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
  I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
  4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.
 
 For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system specific 
 here.
 
 I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and 
 the opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.
 
 I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the 
 opening page link does not work.  The others do not either.
 
 I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
 Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
 exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy on 
 the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been slowed to 
 modem speeds.   :-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/26/2011 04:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 4/26/11 1:44 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Where are you located at? Generally located which Town/State/Country?
I am in Elmira, New York, USA.


Would you believe..  I'm 45 minutes, @35 miles from downtown 
Colorado Springs, CO.   :-)  But I'm at 9,000', almost on the money, 
west in the Colorado Rockies.


If you'd like more details on the location, on a personal level, I can 
send a Google Maps link via email, and a couple of photos.  I don't 
mind at all.


But my location just points out the fact that many people, companies, 
developers, etc., set things up these days just seeming to assume 
everyone has high speed internet.



I may be able to pop a DVD in the snail-mail to you next week, if you
are in the USA.


Thanks for the offer, but there is absolutely no need for the files. 
When I first went to check out the site, I had the impression your 
group was creating something different that what is on the LO 
website.  And I've already got those files, but maybe not the latest.


And the slow speed is temporary.  I just have to wait it out, and my 
download overage will have expired, and I'll have my 1.0 mbps I'm 
paying for.  And as we all know, that's the max speed I can expect, no 
guarantee.


If I live in the right spot in Colorado Springs, I could sign up for 
40 mbps for about the same as I'm paying for 1.0.



send me you address off the list, and I will try to get a DVD out to you 
in a few weeks.


use  webmas...@krackedpress.com  or   webmas...@libreoffice-na.us  
for the off list email address.


I tried using a free dialup service, 10 hours per month, and it took 
over 5 minutes to load CNN.com.  The LibreOffice-NA.US site would not 
load at all, and it has less graphics than CNN.


Well got to go, lightening storm brewing, again.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

below you text is the way to unsubscribe to LibreOffice.

LibreOffice is a total volunteer support system, unless you want to pay 
a company like Novell for a user support contract.  The developers, 
marketing, and support people are all volunteers.  Talking to a live 
person is a problem.


If we could have your area of the country [town/state], maybe we could 
find someone who is willing to give to you their phone number [off the 
list] so you could talk to them.


I live in Elmira, New York, USA, but I would have to call you unless you 
have free long distance on your phone [I do for most of the USA].


Is there something you would like to tell one of us off the list?  you 
could email me at webmas...@libreoffice-na.us and let me know what 
issues you are having with LibreOffice and we may be able to help you 
with it.


On 04/26/2011 05:23 PM, Carl Lill wrote:

  Unsubscribe me .. I have no idea what you all are talking about in the last 
90 emails I got from you all.  I had written in earlier to 'libre' simply 
asking for a phone number to contact Libre about questions I have - recently 
had it installed and need to TALK with a live person about it.   If you can 
sent me an phone # I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise unsubscribe me.  Thanks L.D.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi Carl

The usual way to get support from a mailing list is to start a new thread by 
writing a new email to the 

users@libreoffice.org
and just write something fairly brief about the problem.  Please try to let us 
know which Operating System you are using; Windows, Linux (Ubuntu or another?), 
Mac or Bsd.  For the subject-line try to summarise the key-issue in about 3 
words or less.  


Don't worry about getting each question perfect because it's fairly normal for 
people to ask questions and for you (or whoever is asking) to give a bit more 
detail later.  In forums it is better to ask each question separately but i 
think a mailing list can cope with all the parts of the question in one thread. 
 


One advantage with mailing lists or forums is that you can use copypaste.  
Threads that have 'wrong' subject-lines can be easily deleted and don't need to 
be read.  Sometimes a thread might generate irrelevant chatter and hopefully 
discussion about related issues that it might not have occurred to us to talk 
about otherwise.  


Ask your questions and lets see if we can help solve a few problems with 
LibreOffice for you.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)






From: Carl Lill clill...@hotmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 22:23:54
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload


Unsubscribe me .. I have no idea what you all are talking about in the last 90 
emails I got from you all.  I had written in earlier to 'libre' simply asking 
for a phone number to contact Libre about questions I have - recently had it 
installed and need to TALK with a live person about it.   If you can sent me an 
phone # I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise unsubscribe me.  Thanks L.D.
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 From: snows...@dishmail.net
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload
 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:08:13 -0600
 
 On 4/25/11 2:49 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
  On 04/24/2011 08:28 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
  On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 
  I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
  Documentation page[s].
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
  documentation page
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows only
  DVD documentation page
 
  I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset
  in FireFox, as well as Safari. :-(
 
 
  Works for me today.
 
  The server is from GoDaddy, so their uptime is 99.9x% of the time.
  I will look into this if it happens again. It should not. As of 4/25/11
  4:40+pm Eastern time, they are up.
 
 For lack of a better phrase, the problem appears to be system specific 
 here.
 
 I have a Windows machine, connected to the net via modem at 26.4, and 
 the opening page link works.  I did not try the other two links.
 
 I have a Mac machine, connected to the net via satellite, and the 
 opening page link does not work.  The others do not either.
 
 I have two leading suspicions as to why on the Mac.  One, I'm not sure 
 Thunderbird (and Firefox) are working correctly for some reason, and I 
 exceeded my allowable data download limits for the Fair Access Policy on 
 the satellite, so my access speed on the satellite has been slowed to 
 modem speeds.   :-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Ben McGinnes
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On 27/04/11 3:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
 
 The modem, not so old, it's a 56k data/fax modem.  The phone line?
 A different story!  LOL When I first moved here, I actually had a
 data only second phone line installed, that was a lot faster but
 I've forgotten the actual speed.

56K is actually a bit of a misnomer since it's asymmetric.  A 56K
modem is actually 33.6K download and 28.8K upload.  That's why people
switching from 56K PSTN connections to 64K ISDN connections (which are
symmetric) noticed such a marked difference.

I can't believe I still remember all this, I haven't had to support
PSTN services for at least 8 years.


Regards,
Ben

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