[libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
Hi :) I think people get confused about the difference between updates and upgrades. I think of updates as being things that get added to an existing install. Whereas an upgrade is a new version that tends to be better as a fresh install and tends to take over from the old version. It's a very blurry line tho. In Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 LibreOffice is not in the official Ubuntu repos but is in a ppa (or few). PPAs seem to be small repositories that are maintained by individuals or relatively small communities. I'm not sure who maintains the LibreOffice ppa but it is up to them when they push through a newer version of LibreOffice. I have a feeling that the LibreOffice ppa is quite a reasonably well sized community and is probably the people that looked after OpenOffice/Go-OO in the official Ubuntu repos and the same people that look after LO in the 11.04 and 11.10 official repos. It's tricky because there is a lot of overlap between the different communities but i think the ppa is not official recognised or maintained by The Document Foundation. Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-updates-for-Ubuntu-10-04-tp3369398p3372124.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] use of flat xml formats
Hi planas, planas schrieb: On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 14:41 +0100, e-letter wrote: Readers, Is there a logical reason why xslt filters need to be selected manually for installation? Flat xml file formats are a very good feature, especially for document version control. Why is flat xml not the default file format for LO? I am not sure which filters come installed in the base configuration because I tend install all the filters. The ODF formats are default because they are official (ISO?) standards for general purpose office type documents. Because ODF formats are an international standard producers of office suites - in theory - should support the latest version (1.2) allowing users to easily share documents no matter what program produced the original. The flat xml format is ISO standard too. MS has not implemented 1.2 support yet in MSO 2010. I believe the ODF formats are a type of compressed xml file. Is it not one file zipped, but a whole folder is zipped. You can rename an odt-file to zip and unpack it to see the content. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] use of flat xml formats
Regina On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 17:22 +0200, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi planas, planas schrieb: On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 14:41 +0100, e-letter wrote: Readers, Is there a logical reason why xslt filters need to be selected manually for installation? Flat xml file formats are a very good feature, especially for document version control. Why is flat xml not the default file format for LO? I am not sure which filters come installed in the base configuration because I tend install all the filters. The ODF formats are default because they are official (ISO?) standards for general purpose office type documents. Because ODF formats are an international standard producers of office suites - in theory - should support the latest version (1.2) allowing users to easily share documents no matter what program produced the original. The flat xml format is ISO standard too. MS has not implemented 1.2 support yet in MSO 2010. I believe the ODF formats are a type of compressed xml file. Is it not one file zipped, but a whole folder is zipped. You can rename an odt-file to zip and unpack it to see the content. I was not quite sure of all the details, thanks. Kind regards Regina -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [writer] How to check a whole table cell ?
Any idea ? Now you can find the example file here : http://ca47.fr/LibreOfficeSampleCheckTableCell.odt http://ca47.fr/LibreOfficeSampleCheckTableCell.odt -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/writer-How-to-check-a-whole-table-cell-tp3313397p3373065.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [writer] How to check a whole table cell ?
Guillaume wrote (27-09-11 18:01) Any idea ? - Put cursor in it - Shift-Arrow down (or up) - Shift-Arrow up (or down) .. ? Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] use of flat xml formats
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, planas wrote: On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 14:41 +0100, e-letter wrote: Is there a logical reason why xslt filters need to be selected manually for installation? Flat xml file formats are a very good feature, especially for document version control. Why is flat xml not the default file format for LO? I am not sure which filters come installed in the base configuration because I tend install all the filters. The ODF formats are default because they are official (ISO?) standards for general purpose office type documents. Because ODF formats are an international standard producers of office suites - in theory - should support the latest version (1.2) allowing users to easily share documents no matter what program produced the original. MS has not implemented 1.2 support yet in MSO 2010. I believe the ODF formats are a type of compressed xml file. The issue of flat xml is whether other, particularly commercial, suites directly support the format. My suspicion is FLOSS projects probably do but commercial support may be erratic. Cfr. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_technical_specification Document Representation The OpenDocument format supports the following two ways of document representation: - As a single XML document - also known as Flat XML or Uncompressed XML Files. Single OpenDocument XML files are not widely used. Filename extensions for a single OpenDocument XML documents are not defined in the OpenDocument technical specification, but commonly used are .xml, .fodt,[1][2] .fods, ... etc. - As a collection of several subdocuments within a package, each of which stores part of the complete document. This is the common representation of OpenDocument documents. It uses filename extensions such as .odt, .ott, .ods, .odp ... etc. The package is a standard ZIP file with different filename extension and with defined structure of subdocuments. Each subdocument within a package has a different document root and stores a particular aspect of the XML document. All types of documents (e.g. text and spreadsheet documents) use the same document and subdocuments definitions. I am writing an AsciiDoc backend to produce ODF files directly from AsciiDoc. I was also looking for a flat file importer. Currently LibreOffice and OpenOffice want to open such a .fodt (or .xml) file as text rather than an pure ODF file. Flat ODF file support would be useful to anyone producing/converting simple ODF files, and can help with learning/debugging ODF. It could be very useful to the larger ODF development community. Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote in message news:1317127470.13576.140258148244...@webmail.messagingengine.com... Using Usenet newsgroups (regular newsgroups as opposed to web based newsgroups) are easier to use. The others are a pain in the ass and I don't use them. Yes, I know Ubuntu has both, but I don't use the web based stuff. An no, I'm not going to start one -- that is the job of LO support. With that, my participation in this thread is over. Have a good day. snip The procedure I described is for *real* Usenet (NNTP) access to a Gmane News (NNTP=Usenet) group via a News (NNTP=Usenet) client. Why all the red herrings about web interfaces? Who mentioned them. I'm talking Usenet=NNTP=News as per 30 years or so ago, long before the web was ever built (1990 or so). Harold Fuchs London -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Clear all new page
Le 27/09/2011 16:57, Mihamina Rakotomandimby a écrit : Hello, I inserted a lot of new page (with Ctrl+Enter) in a Writer document. I would like to clear them all: replace them with a simple newline. How to find replace them all? You can use regular expressions (look at this words in the index of the help: coding of end of paragraph is not standard). You will may prefer to use the extension altsearch.oxt if you can find it... Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] use of flat xml formats
Your use case is very practical and very desirable. And yes, producing a single-file ODF document (XML format) would work great for similar applications, including creation of feature-test documents, etc. There are major practical reasons why the single-file XML format is not the default format. It is odd that it is not a supported format, however, especially for input. I believe there were, at some point, separate transform scripts that could be added to OpenOffice.org to accomplish input and output of the single-file format. I don't know where those are and if they still work. It is an useful thing to research. I will dig into my files, but I am not hopeful. Keep asking around. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dag Wieers [mailto:d...@wieers.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:06 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] use of flat xml formats [ ... ] I am writing an AsciiDoc backend to produce ODF files directly from AsciiDoc. I was also looking for a flat file importer. Currently LibreOffice and OpenOffice want to open such a .fodt (or .xml) file as text rather than an pure ODF file. Flat ODF file support would be useful to anyone producing/converting simple ODF files, and can help with learning/debugging ODF. It could be very useful to the larger ODF development community. Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [ ... ] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: use of flat xml formats
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, NoOp wrote: On 09/27/2011 12:05 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: ,,, I am writing an AsciiDoc backend to produce ODF files directly from AsciiDoc. I was also looking for a flat file importer. Currently LibreOffice and OpenOffice want to open such a .fodt (or .xml) file as text rather than an pure ODF file. I suspect it's a Windows version issue. I can easily open .fodt, .fods in linux LO 3.3.4 3.4.3. Windows versions act (using the same test files) do as you suggest and only open as text. I am using Linux, however I found that the flat XML ODF files require an office:mimetype attribute to the office:document root-element. Not doing this will make LibreOffice (3.4.3) fail to open the document as ODF, but instead as plain text. So adding: office:mimetype=application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text did the trick for me ! -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: use of flat xml formats
On 09/27/2011 05:45 PM, NoOp wrote: On 09/27/2011 04:23 PM, NoOp wrote: On 09/27/2011 12:05 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: ,,, I am writing an AsciiDoc backend to produce ODF files directly from AsciiDoc. I was also looking for a flat file importer. Currently LibreOffice and OpenOffice want to open such a .fodt (or .xml) file as text rather than an pure ODF file. I suspect it's a Windows version issue. I can easily open .fodt, .fods in linux LO 3.3.4 3.4.3. Windows versions act (using the same test files) do as you suggest and only open as text. Perhaps it's related to this bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35580 [fods file from recent documents opened like xml text file and not as libreoffice spreadsheet] You might want to join that bug report and add your test comments. Get's weirder... same .fods test file on Windows with 3.4.3 (after uninstalling LO 3.3.4 + user profile) opens LibreOffice Math. .fodt still opens as text. Now opens as a regular Calc file *after* installing the Sample XSLT filters (as e-letter pointed out at the begining of this thread). And the .fodt file opens properly as well. I'll uninstall 3.4.3 (including user profile) and reinstall 3.3.4 to see if it does the same there to check to see if it was a profile issue). First test will be with standard install (no Sample XSLT filters), and then with the Sample XSLT filters installed. Note: sorry for the almost blog... just trying to see if there is a difference between 3.3.4 and 3.4.3 - w/wo filters. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: use of flat xml formats
On 09/27/2011 05:58 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, NoOp wrote: On 09/27/2011 12:05 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: ,,, I am writing an AsciiDoc backend to produce ODF files directly from AsciiDoc. I was also looking for a flat file importer. Currently LibreOffice and OpenOffice want to open such a .fodt (or .xml) file as text rather than an pure ODF file. I suspect it's a Windows version issue. I can easily open .fodt, .fods in linux LO 3.3.4 3.4.3. Windows versions act (using the same test files) do as you suggest and only open as text. I am using Linux, however I found that the flat XML ODF files require an office:mimetype attribute to the office:document root-element. Not doing this will make LibreOffice (3.4.3) fail to open the document as ODF, but instead as plain text. So adding: office:mimetype=application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text did the trick for me ! I use Ubuntu I simply right-clicked the file in Nautilus selected LO Calc as the option to open. That added the mime type to my mime data so I didn't have to add anything. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Two dictionary questions
At 02:08 PM 9/26/2011, you wrote: Hi Jeremy, Jeremy J. Shapiro wrote (26-09-11 06:05) 1) What path do the dictionaries need to be locate such that LibreOffice will consult them and enable one to add words to them? Apart from what others told, you can have personal word lists. See Tools OPtions Language settings Writing aids. Those are placed in your LibreOffice user profile (For the path, see Tools OPtions General Paths...) 2) Is there a way to get LibreOffice to consult more than one dictionary for a text that has sections in or words from two (or more) different languages? You can set the language for various parts of your text, Either via styles (F11, tab Font of a style), either direct (Tools Language ..) There is a simpler way for a section of text. Highlight the text...click on the language notation at the bottom center of the page...hover over 'set language for paragraph'...click on 'more...' ...select language in drop down box. All language selections that have dictionaries are noted with a check mark and 'abc'. Jerry Glazman HTH -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
