date:20120214

Hi :)
Hopefully the guides on this page might help?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide

If you scroll up the page from that link you find the Base chapter in the 
Getting Started guide might be quite useful too.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



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From: IGraham gra...@lovatt.co.uk
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Base - Phone book ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 16:22

Base
its been quite a few years since I've perplexed myself with a database, but
needs must

i want to print my Thunderbird address book, (the phone numbers mainly)  i
can do this from within Thunderbird but i cant choose the fields or set up
the display so the output is hardly user friendly
using Base i can connect to the Thunderbird MAB file choose the fields and
out put a print, but again not particularly user friendly output
What i want is someone to point me towards a tutorial/resource that will
show me how to do the design bit or/and give me advice or even a template.

All help gratefully revived

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

2012/2/14 noibs noibs...@me.com:
 I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4.  There are no page margins visible for my
 Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4.  Am I missing something?  I've looked
 for a preference and can't find one.  I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3.

 Thanks.

I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible
”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

Hi :)
I found something in the Help file! (for once! (the Help files in LibreOffice 
are not usually very helpful at the moment))

Users with administrator or root privileges will see a dialogue box in which 
they can choose to install extensions for all users or only for me. Normal 
users without those privileges can install, remove, or modify extensions only 
for their own use.  
1.  A user with root or administrator privileges can install an extension as a 
shared extension that is available to all users. After selecting an extension, 
a dialogue box opens and asks whether to install for the current user or all 
users.  
2.  A user without root privileges can only install an extension for their own 
use. This is called a user extension.


Usually the official documentation is far better than the help guides.  The 
chapters usually appear on this wiki-page first
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
and then appear on the official page a while later
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

So you have to be logged into the machine as the Administrator/SuperUser in 
order to avoid having to copypaste the Extension into the various different 
users.  
Regards from
Tom :)




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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid 
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 16:21

Hi all.

First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
repited.

I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation, for
do it accesible for all user.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12

This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.

How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user by
user?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5

2012-02-14 Thread Farmacia Felisa Hebrero


Thanks for your answer Jay,

Before LO 3.5 I was using LO 3.4.5 with no problems and with no crashes 
before. Besides, before sending the question, I repaired the 
installation to test if the first set-up had any problems with the same 
result and so, I reinstall LO 3.4.5 and it works perfectly. Do you think 
that the complete removal of LO 3.4.5 with Revo Uninstaller could 
resolve the problem?


Thanks in advance and kind regards.
ENRIQUE FERNÁNDEZ

El 14/02/2012 14:13, Jay Lozier escribió:

Enrique,

On 02/14/2012 07:41 AM, Farmacia Felisa Hebrero wrote:
I have installed the new version 3.5 of LibreOffice in Spanish in a 
computer with Windows XP Professional and after opening any Calc 
file, I receive a message of recovery because the opening produce an 
unexpected failure.


Please, let me know your comments. Kind regards.
ENRIQUE FERNÁNDEZ
Did your previous version of LO crash or did your computer crash while 
LO was open? This message usually occurs after a crash that caused LO 
to close improperly.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson


On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com:

I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4.  There are no page margins visible for my
Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4.  Am I missing something?  I've looked
for a preference and can't find one.  I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3.

Thanks.


I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible
”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean.



Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.

Hi :)
It might be good to post this suggestion to the Design List as it might be 
something they are interested in at the moment.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 2:20

Further thoughts.

I believe that the including of helper utilities in a standard LO
distribution could help to differentiate it from OOo. As an example, if LO
is invoked without any parameters, it takes considerable time to load, and
then presents a choice of its major applications. Instead of this, it could
quickly load a selection box that offered a range of simple tasks (view a
file, convert formats, email a file etc.) as well as the major apps. I use
Linux with a KDE 3.5 Desktop in which the major apps are presented
individually in the main menu. What I'd like to see in addition is a
selection page like this that loads quickly, and presents a series of simple
tasks without loading the whole shebang. 

All Users of OOo and (sign of the cross) Word are automatically accustomed,
not only to the loading delay of these monster apps, but to their
(unavoidably) complex menus. If LO were to present a quick, simple interface
of the type I've described as the default invocation, it would be a paradigm
shift for Users.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Fernand Vanrie


On 14/02/2012 17:49, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com:
I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4.  There are no page margins 
visible for my
Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4.  Am I missing something?  I've 
looked

for a preference and can't find one.  I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3.

Thanks.


I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible
”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean.



Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck?
Yep, I you can solve this with adding a background on the default 
template



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

Hi :)
I think the Extension manages to block the StartCentre/QuickStarter so that 
people can't inadvertently switch it on and then regret it.  Seems a pretty 
smart move imo.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid 
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 16:30


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On 12-02-14 11:21 AM, Eduardo Maldonado wrote:
 Hi all.

 First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
 repited.

 I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation, for
 do it accesible for all user.

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12

 This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.

 How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user by
 user?

 Thanks.

What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
to lauch the StartCenter.

Cheers,

Fabian



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

I can understand eliminating visible margins for people who desire that...but
why not make it a preference setting? Yes, I already thought of either
using a colored background or a border around my writable area, but those
things print. That's what I'll probably do, but it's a kludge that should
be necessary.

I'm a college professor who writes his own teaching materials. Each course
features roughly a 400-page Writer document that contains a variety of
inline graphical objects created in Draw or Calc and then pasted in as a GDI
Metafile. Usually, I need to resize those images and having visible margins
REALLY helps that process.

And I thought that Apple was the only entity who was making dumb user
interface issues like that. Actually, not just Apple. I'm running Ubuntu
11.10 in a virtual machine on my Macs (for some specialized tasks)--I can't
believe how bad the user-interface is. I used to love the Ubuntu UI.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

Meant to say a kludge that should NOT be necessary.


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[libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 corrupts DOCX completely

2012-02-14 Thread Philip Gillißen


Hi!

I just downloaded and tested LibreOffice 3.5 on Windows 64 Bit and my 
test result is depressing:
LibreOffice 3.5 corrupts my DOCX files completely, so that Microsoft 
Word 2010 cannot open it anymore!


I tried it with simple documents and it failed completely. Word doesn't 
even offer to recover the document, it is just unable to open it. I 
think this is a huge issue for most users of LibreOffice.


On Ubuntu 64 bit, with LibreOffice 3.4, the documents were only 
corrupted, so that Word had to recover it (with lots of lost 
formatting...) but it could open the file.


I experienced a similar behaviour with xlsx, too.

I don't know, why the importer for docx/xlsx is getting worse. I hope, 
you guys can use this information to improve LO.


Regards,
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LWP documents

2012-02-14 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky



WordPro does have scripting capability, but I don't remember what to do 
to automatically open, print and close document.

If I think of anything else, I will reply again.

Creating a free PDFWriter using Ghostscript

http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~henrik/GSWriter/GSWriter.html


Printer related Scripts in Windows XP and Server 2003
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printer%20Scripts.htm

Read this entirely

http://forums.pcw.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35564

The key is to change perl script to print not save as



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 corrupts DOCX completely

2012-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson


On 02/14/2012 11:20 AM, Philip Gillißen wrote:

Hi!

I just downloaded and tested LibreOffice 3.5 on Windows 64 Bit and my
test result is depressing:
LibreOffice 3.5 corrupts my DOCX files completely, so that Microsoft
Word 2010 cannot open it anymore!

I tried it with simple documents and it failed completely. Word doesn't
even offer to recover the document, it is just unable to open it. I
think this is a huge issue for most users of LibreOffice.

On Ubuntu 64 bit, with LibreOffice 3.4, the documents were only
corrupted, so that Word had to recover it (with lots of lost
formatting...) but it could open the file.

I experienced a similar behaviour with xlsx, too.

I don't know, why the importer for docx/xlsx is getting worse. I hope,
you guys can use this information to improve LO.



Filing a bug and attaching a pure .docx plus the corrupted version 
would be a good start towards that improvement.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LWP documents

2012-02-14 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

Greg, please contact directly to collect BatchConverter.lwp and FORM 
DATA.pdf

This script can be modified to print.

On 2/13/2012 3:13 PM, Gregory Forster wrote:

Hi

No, I have many Ubuntu distros back to 0704, however I  just haven't 
had the time to learn how to get Windows only apps to work in Ubuntu. 
I built two Ubuntu 0704 systems and sold both  them.  I like the 1004 
LTS.  I am using a Toshiba laptop with Windows 7.  My client uses 
Windows XP Professional on a desktop.  I haven't thoroughly examined 
Key View yet.


Greg

On 2/13/2012 10:49 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

Hello Gregory

The work for you will to be to generate PDF files from Key View in an 
automated fashion in the same directory as the original LWP  to 
create viewable documents and reducing user error.


I assumed that more editing was not required at that time.

?Are you using linux/unix?

On 2/4/2012 8:53 PM, Gregory Forster wrote:
I already have installed Key View for my client.  However, he has 
trouble using it (user error) and has hundreds of files to view.


Greg

On 2/1/2012 12:08 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

KeyView for Lotus is a WordPro document viewer.

It is probably Windows only, but might work under WINE if you are 
on linux.

NOTE: originally designed for Win95/3.1 (google to find out more)

ftp://ftp.lotus.com/pub/lotusweb/product/smartsuite/

Download file: Kvlotus.exe

Check that it will work with your documents and that they will look 
correct when printed.


If they do, output files as PDF as they are for reference only.
DO NOT GET RID OF LWP ORIGINALS.The day may come when that 
import filter will become totally correct.


If you can write script, do a directory crawl with print attribute 
to pdf.


Hope this helps.

PS: Google docs imports PDF and export ODF.

On 1/26/2012 6:30 PM, Gregory Forster wrote:
How do I open LotusWord Pro documents?  When I click on the 
document in Windows Explorer, I get a blank screen.  When I enter 
LibreOffice and open the document, I get a blank screen. In 
LibreOffice, I File/Open, change the file selection to Lotus 
WordPro document (*.lwp), select the file and still get a blank 
screen.


Greg












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi noibs,

noibs schrieb:

[..]
I'm a college professor who writes his own teaching materials.  Each course
features roughly a 400-page Writer document that contains a variety of
inline graphical objects created in Draw or Calc and then pasted in as a GDI
Metafile.  Usually, I need to resize those images and having visible margins
REALLY helps that process.


Perhaps you only need a different workflow? Do you want to align the 
graphic with the left egde of the text area? Rightclick the graphic (or 
the surrounding frame in case of graphic with caption) and align left.
Or do you not use the mouse at all? Then you need only the positionsize 
dialog. You need not to see the page border, but LO will find it for you.


I first thought too, I would need that border. But then I find no 
situation, where it is really needed. So please describe a goal, where 
you need the border line.


Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

That is easy. Open the Base document which connects the TB address database
with this office suite.
Go to the query section.
Let the designer or wizard create a new query from the table in question.
Add only the columns you need.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?


Andreas Säger wrote
 
 That is easy. Open the Base document which connects the TB address
 database with this office suite.
 Go to the query section.
 Let the designer or wizard create a new query from the table in question.
 Add only the columns you need.
 
Continued:
Save the query
Save the database
Use the query just like you would use a table.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

2012-02-14 Thread Eduardo Maldonado

It has not worked.

I has installed the extension in the space for the administrator user, not
for all users.

Can anybody help me, please?

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:59, Eduardo Maldonado 
eduardo.manio...@gmail.com escribió:

 That's correct, Tom.

 The extension only avoid the presence of StartCenter. I do'nt need start
 StartCenter, the trouble is to see it when I close all the documents I have
 opened without close the application.

 I need install only some program from the suite, I for me is a trouble my
 users can see there exists others programs they do'nt have. I know...
 strange, but, they are my requirements.

 I'll tryied to install with an administrator user, but without say I work
 like administrator, and it's applied only like normal user.

 I'll try anothe time.

 Thanks a lot.

 El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukescribió:

 Hi :)
 I think the Extension manages to block the StartCentre/QuickStarter so
 that people can't inadvertently switch it on and then regret it.  Seems a
 pretty smart move imo.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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  I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation,
 for
  do it accesible for all user.
 
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12
 
  This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.
 
  How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user
 by
  user?
 
  Thanks.
 
 What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
 StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

 If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit


On 14/02/12 17:49, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com:

I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible
for my
Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've
looked
for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3.

Thanks.


I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible
”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean.





feature? to eliminate a wanted behaviour is considered a feature?? 
then suppress the possibility to color the text, it will be another 
fantastic brand new feature



Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck?



me, it's me I like to see the margin borders...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

I have no illusions that I'm going to win this argument; however, I use the
visible margins in two ways:

1. When deciding when to add a manual page break, I need to exactly how far
until the end of the main page, excluding the space occupied by the footer.
Let's say I'm getting ready to begin a third-level heading. Depending upon
the visible space near the bottom of the page, I might decide to begin that
section on the next page. Right now, I can't accurately guage that space,
especially since my footer has some blank space above the text. If I'm
beginning a Level 2 heading, I tend to start it on a new page unless there's
about 2 inches at the bottom of a page.

2. When adding any kind of graphical object to a Writer document, I
sometimes manually expand the size of the object (proportionately) to be as
large as the width of the page. I can keep enlarging the size until it's in
the margins of the page--but I won't know that with LO 3.5 because I can't
see the margins. This is a huge issue for me, because I embed many
graphical objects (usually GDI Metafile objects from spreadsheets) in Writer
documents and I often want them to be as large as the printed width of the
page. If you stop allowing expansion of graphical objects past the margins,
then this issue would be taken care of.

Just because certain individuals don't make use of certain user-interface
features in both applications and operating systems doesn't mean view that
issue in the same way.

Further, my question is still valid--why should a long-time user-interface
feature be completely eliminated as compared to making it a preference
setting? I could make the argument that was made to me (justify why I use
this)--I don't use about 70% of all preference settings in LibreOffice.
Thus, let's eliminate these unless each person can justify why they use
them. How would that be? I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but it's pretty
insulting when you've been doing serious writing for about 30 years and then
get a question like this.

Frankly, I view the elimination of visible margins as part of the dumbing
down of user interfaces that I'm seeing in Mac OS Lion, Ubuntu 11.10, and
now LO. It's the let's make it pretty to look at even if if compromises
the usefulness school of thought. Clearly, LO Writer is not as pretty to
look at with margin guides showing. But, for me, it's more useful.
C'mon--this is a View menu option if there ever was one.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far.  I have five really
large (400+) page documents that I'm constantly revising and that are only
printed once or twice a year.

First, I've set my default page style to include a very thin (0.02 pt wide)
light gray border around the entire printed area of the page.  Set the
distance from the border to the text in the page to zero.

Then, shaded the background of my headers and footers to have a very light
gray background, so as to be able to distinguish the main page from the
header and footer.

It will take less than a minute to get rid of these when printing.  For
draft printing, it doesn't make any difference whether these added things
print.

By the way, in Apple's Pages word processor, margins and header and footers
can be shown or made invisible via the Show Document Layout under the View
menu.  Hmmmn.  Wonder why they do that if it's such a useless thing?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

2012-02-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Hi :)
Was there no option during the install process to allow all users??  I'm not 
sure how to get at that option and i am not even sure it really exists to be 
honest.  It's just what i read in a help guide that i know is out-of-date.  

I hope someone else is able to help soon!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

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From: Eduardo Maldonado eduardo.manio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid 
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 18:49

It has not worked.

I has installed the extension in the space for the administrator user, not
for all users.

Can anybody help me, please?

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:59, Eduardo Maldonado 
eduardo.manio...@gmail.com escribió:

 That's correct, Tom.

 The extension only avoid the presence of StartCenter. I do'nt need start
 StartCenter, the trouble is to see it when I close all the documents I have
 opened without close the application.

 I need install only some program from the suite, I for me is a trouble my
 users can see there exists others programs they do'nt have. I know...
 strange, but, they are my requirements.

 I'll tryied to install with an administrator user, but without say I work
 like administrator, and it's applied only like normal user.

 I'll try anothe time.

 Thanks a lot.

 El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukescribió:

 Hi :)
 I think the Extension manages to block the StartCentre/QuickStarter so
 that people can't inadvertently switch it on and then regret it.  Seems a
 pretty smart move imo.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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  First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
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  I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation,
 for
  do it accesible for all user.
 
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12
 
  This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.
 
  How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user
 by
  user?
 
  Thanks.
 
 What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
 StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

 If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
 to lauch the StartCenter.

 Cheers,

 Fabian



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)



Tom
On Windows, if you have several user accounts on one machine, EVERY time 
you install an extension with the Extension Manager, you are asked if it 
was to be used by that user or all the users that have an account on 
that machine.  I found out this yesterday when I installed LO 3.4.5 on 
an XP machine with 2 user accounts.


I think the same goes for installing LO itself on that multi-account 
Windows XP home PC.


On 02/14/2012 02:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Was there no option during the install process to allow all users??  I'm not sure how to get at that option and i am not even sure it really exists to be honest.  It's just what i read in a help guide that i know is out-of-date. 


I hope someone else is able to help soon!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

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From: Eduardo Maldonadoeduardo.manio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid 
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 18:49

It has not worked.

I has installed the extension in the space for the administrator user, not
for all users.

Can anybody help me, please?

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:59, Eduardo Maldonado
eduardo.manio...@gmail.com  escribió:


That's correct, Tom.

The extension only avoid the presence of StartCenter. I do'nt need start
StartCenter, the trouble is to see it when I close all the documents I have
opened without close the application.

I need install only some program from the suite, I for me is a trouble my
users can see there exists others programs they do'nt have. I know...
strange, but, they are my requirements.

I'll tryied to install with an administrator user, but without say I work
like administrator, and it's applied only like normal user.

I'll try anothe time.

Thanks a lot.

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:12, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukescribió:

Hi :)

I think the Extension manages to block the StartCentre/QuickStarter so
that people can't inadvertently switch it on and then regret it.  Seems a
pretty smart move imo.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Fabian Rodriguezmagic...@member.fsf.org
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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 16:30


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On 12-02-14 11:21 AM, Eduardo Maldonado wrote:

Hi all.

First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
repited.

I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation,

for

do it accesible for all user.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12

This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.

How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user

by

user?

Thanks.


What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
to lauch the StartCenter.

Cheers,

Fabian



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[libreoffice-users] editing pdf files

2012-02-14 Thread John Bowers

Hi,

I checked the FAQs and the forum and did not find any subject lines containing 
exactly editing pdf files, so I am sending this email.  I have a pdf file 
consisting of forms with numbers and text in various boxes.  I would like to 
edit some of the numbers.  Do you know if this is possible using LibreOffice?  
According to this entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software, it 
would appear to be possible.  I wanted to confirm this before downloading and 
installing LibreOffice.

thanks very much,

john bowers
Victoria, BC. Canada

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi noibs,

noibs schrieb:

I have no illusions that I'm going to win this argument; however, I use the
visible margins in two ways:

1. When deciding when to add a manual page break, I need to exactly how far
until the end of the main page, excluding the space occupied by the footer.
Let's say I'm getting ready to begin a third-level heading.  Depending upon
the visible space near the bottom of the page, I might decide to begin that
section on the next page.


Let LO decide it. You format your third-level heading with the style 
Heading 3. It has the setting Keep with next paragraph. So it will 
never happen, that the heading is on one page and the following 
paragraph on the next page. If you want that the paragraph has at least 
e.g. 4 lines on the bottom of the page, than set the orphan control to 
4, or more extreme use the setting do not split paragraph. With such 
settings the layout remains fine, if you insert or delete something 
before this third-level heading.


  Right now, I can't accurately guage that space,

especially since my footer has some blank space above the text.   If I'm
beginning a Level 2 heading, I tend to start it on a new page unless there's
about 2 inches at the bottom of a page.


You can see the exact space in the vertical ruler and you get a 
delimiter line for the footer, when you hover the footer area with the 
mouse. But as mentioned above, there is no need to insert manual page 
breaks for that reason.




2. When adding any kind of graphical object to a Writer document, I
sometimes manually expand the size of the object (proportionately) to be as
large as the width of the page.   I can keep enlarging the size until it's in
the margins of the page--but I won't know that with LO 3.5 because I can't
see the margins.  This is a huge issue for me, because I embed many
graphical objects (usually GDI Metafile objects from spreadsheets) in Writer
documents and I often want them to be as large as the printed width of the
page.  If you stop allowing expansion of graphical objects past the margins,
then this issue would be taken care of.


You find all you need in Right click graphic  Picture  dialog page 
Type. Mark Follow textflow, Mark Keep ratio, set width to 
relative and value to 100%.




Just because certain individuals don't make use of certain user-interface
features in both applications and operating systems doesn't mean view that
issue in the same way.

Further, my question is still valid--why should a long-time user-interface
feature be completely eliminated as compared to making it a preference
setting?  I could make the argument that was made to me (justify why I use
this)--I don't use about 70% of all preference settings in LibreOffice.


My question was not intended to make you defend, but a simple question 
what you do with this lines, because they are only visual and have no 
function like snapping or so.



Thus, let's eliminate these unless each person can justify why they use
them.  How would that be?  I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but it's pretty
insulting when you've been doing serious writing for about 30 years and then
get a question like this.


30 years ago I used a typewriter with hard return at every line end ;)



Frankly, I view the elimination of visible margins as part of the dumbing
down of user interfaces that I'm seeing in Mac OS Lion, Ubuntu 11.10, and
now LO.  It's the let's make it pretty to look at even if if compromises
the usefulness school of thought.  Clearly, LO Writer is not as pretty to
look at with margin guides showing.  But, for me, it's more useful.
C'mon--this is a View menu option if there ever was one.


Perhaps you write a feature request to get such switch and/or write to 
libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org to discuss the feature with 
the developers? Please, don't get me wrong. I'm not against a switch to 
let the user decide, whether to show the border lines or not. But 
discussing here will not make it appear.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Steven Shelton


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On 2/14/2012 2:07 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:
 feature? to eliminate a wanted behaviour is considered a feature??
then suppress the possibility to color the text, it will be another
fantastic brand new feature
 Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck?
 me, it's me I like to see the margin borders...


I agree. I prefer to see the borders. It does make it easier to line
up/size graphics, for one.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 corrupts DOCX completely

2012-02-14 Thread Philip Gillißen


On 14.02.2012 19:09, Ron Johnson wrote:
Filing a bug and attaching a pure .docx plus the corrupted version 
would be a good start towards that improvement.



I did file a bug report and attached two documents, as you stated.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46060

Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

Regina,

Please explain why this change is better?  How does it make users more
efficient?  I now have to hover to see the header/footer line.  How is that
faster than it was before?  How many word processors that offer decent
layout capabilities DON'T offer an option to actually see the page layout? 
Really.  How many?

Paste a picture into a Writer document.  Be in the middle of the page where
you can't see the upper and lower corner markers for the page.  Drag the
picture left and right.  How can you tell when the picture is in the margin? 
You can't  Do the same thing vertically.  How can you tell when the picture
is in the header or footer.  You can't.  For some operations you need to see
the actual page layout.









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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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On 12-02-14 02:36 PM, noibs wrote:
 Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far.
[...]

You could also enable the grid:

Tools  Options  LibreOffice Writer  Grid  Visible Grid

I'd consider the lack of an option to make the actual margins visible a
regression bug.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] editing pdf files

2012-02-14 Thread Jay Lozier


On 02/14/2012 03:30 PM, John Bowers wrote:

Hi,

I checked the FAQs and the forum and did not find any subject lines containing exactly 
editing pdf files, so I am sending this email.  I have a pdf file consisting 
of forms with numbers and text in various boxes.  I would like to edit some of the 
numbers.  Do you know if this is possible using LibreOffice?  According to this entry 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software, it would appear to be possible.  I 
wanted to confirm this before downloading and installing LibreOffice.

thanks very much,

john bowers
Victoria, BC. Canada

FileOpen scroll down until you see pdf. Select pdf and then the file. 
It may take a few seconds to open. My experience is that is opens in 
Draw only. After you edit, use FileExport as PDF.


I would save the file as an odg also in case there are any problems/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Steven Shelton


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.

2012-02-14 Thread 52midnight

 It might be good to post this suggestion to the Design List as it might be
something they are interested in at the moment. 

Thanks for the suggestion. I've now found the problem with the original
script and have a working version, still under development, so I'll modify
the original post appropriately before reposting it.

52midnight



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base - Phone book ?

2012-02-14 Thread James Knott


IGraham wrote:

Base
its been quite a few years since I've perplexed myself with a database, but
needs must

i want to print my Thunderbird address book, (the phone numbers mainly)  i
can do this from within Thunderbird but i cant choose the fields or set up
the display so the output is hardly user friendly
using Base i can connect to the Thunderbird MAB file choose the fields and
out put a print, but again not particularly user friendly output
What i want is someone to point me towards a tutorial/resource that will
show me how to do the design bit or/and give me advice or even a template.

All help gratefully revived



You can export the address book in tab or comma delimited format.  You 
can then import that file into Calc and do whatever you want with it.



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[libreoffice-users] LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-14 Thread Spiff

As I'm not sure at which list best to post, and as several lists that seem
more suitable are restricted and need a request to get access, I'll first
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Please let me know if I should better post to another list.

About LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language -

AutoSpellcheck checks each word as it is typed and displays a wavy red line
under any misspelled words. When the word is corrected, the red wavy line
disappears.
Today I updated to LibO 3.5.0, using the
LibO_3.5.0_Win_x86_install_multi.msi installer, and now I notice that
AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language. When I choose English (US)
AutoSpellcheck works fine and displays a wavy red line under any misspelled
words.

Is it a bug in LibO 3.5.0, AutoSpellcheck not working for Dutch language?
(If so, at which list should I post to report that bug?)
Or is it something I can correct as user?

Best regards,
Spiff

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?


You can export the address book in tab or comma delimited format.  You 
can then import that file into Calc and do whatever you want with it.

No, you can't do anything with database data in Calc. You can not query
virtual tables nor can you generate reports nor serial letters. The TB
export to csv is completely pointless. 
Once you connected a Base document to the address book you have the all the
contained tables plus the groups defined in TB plus database queries in
Writer and in Calc for multiple purposes without further export/import
procedures.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker


Le 14/02/2012 21:59, noibs a écrit :


Please explain why this change is better?  How does it make users more
efficient?  I now have to hover to see the header/footer line.  How is that
faster than it was before?  How many word processors that offer decent
layout capabilities DON'T offer an option to actually see the page layout?
Really.  How many?

Paste a picture into a Writer document.  Be in the middle of the page where
you can't see the upper and lower corner markers for the page.  Drag the
picture left and right.  How can you tell when the picture is in the margin?
You can't  Do the same thing vertically.  How can you tell when the picture
is in the header or footer.  You can't.  For some operations you need to see
the actual page layout.


I strongly agree with that.

Some time ago, when Cedric introduced that enhancement on the FR users 
list, I did emphasize the drawbacks noibs and some others have explained 
here. All what I received where names and the suggestion to go to the ux 
list to discuss that.


I think the matter is not unimportant enough to be discussed in some 
hidden list while most *users* are here.


Anyway, that functionality (the text limit suppress) is not complete 
until some option is added somewhere to get it back if one so desires. 
This alone stops me from using Writer v.3.5 on a regular basis.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

2012-02-14 Thread jomali

Where do you get that idea? You can create a database using a calc document
as your data source and create queries and forms and reports as you would
with any other data source. Your only restriction is that you can't do data
entry, so any changes have to be made in Calc.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:


 You can export the address book in tab or comma delimited format.  You
 can then import that file into Calc and do whatever you want with it.

 No, you can't do anything with database data in Calc. You can not query
 virtual tables nor can you generate reports nor serial letters. The TB
 export to csv is completely pointless.
 Once you connected a Base document to the address book you have the all the
 contained tables plus the groups defined in TB plus database queries in
 Writer and in Calc for multiple purposes without further export/import
 procedures.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

Compare this:
Thunderbird  CSV export  Calc import  Base document  Report

with this:
Thunderbird  Base document  Report

The Base document provides a direct link to the current TB data. You don't
need to update any intermediate files. The availlable features and
limitations are the same for all file based data sources (spreadsheet, csv,
address books etc).

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade of gray or some color to the background of the page. It
will include the main page, header and footer. Then, if you haven't already
done it, set your printing preferences in Writer to not print backgrounds.
Create a template for new documents and you are all set.

I've been trying to envision working with multiple columns and multiple
graphics images with text wrap--basic page payout. Yes, without the margin
guides you can get the job done, but I don't think it can be done as quickly
and as effortlessly.

Like I said above, this seems to be the way of the world right now and I
think most of it has been driven by Apple's change to the Mac OS Lion user
interface to make it more like iOS (and dumber as a result). Because of
Apple's mandatory autosave and versions in iWork Pages, I've now returned
100% to LibreOffice because it was driving me crazy and couldn't be turned
off. I think the Ubuntu Unity interface was created for much the same
reasons--prettier and dumber.

I'm the first to agree that LO Writer documents look way nicer without the
layout guides. Because of that, it may attract more novice users. Why
knows. But a requirement and an option are two completely different things.
Given that the code for the layout guides already exists, I seriously
question the wisdom of those who decided to make the change mandatory and
not an option. What they are essentially saying is that they know what's
best for me. Take it or leave it. When I find a better option, I'll leave
it.

I'm know I'm probably violating whatever the rules of this forum are in
terms of editorializing, so this will be it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker


Le 15/02/2012 00:25, noibs a écrit :

One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade of gray or some color to the background of the page.  It
will include the main page, header and footer.  Then, if you haven't already
done it, set your printing preferences in Writer to not print backgrounds.
Create a template for new documents and you are all set.


Yes, but it is just that: a workaround to fix an interface defect.

BTW, I've started a new thread in the UX list 
(libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org): The no border text 
feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete
where I ask for the return of a previously existing option: display or 
hide the text limits.



What they are essentially saying is that they know what's
best for me.  Take it or leave it.  When I find a better option, I'll leave
it.



I understand your thoughts.


I'm know I'm probably violating whatever the rules of this forum are in
terms of editorializing, so this will be it.


Telling things is better that shutting up.

What bothers me the more on the users lists (FR is the same for that 
matter) is the recurring motto Regina sang: discussing here will not 
make it appear.
To tell the truth, this is a shoking answer. Users may not wish to 
register to some strange or hidden list for a one-shot message, 
non-english speaking users might feel they are set aside. As the users 
lists are frequently visited by members of TDF, it would seem important 
these knowledgeable people report to the devs, if the devs themselves 
don't lurk round here (which is a shame development-wise).



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

Hi :)
No worries.  We often argue and disagree with each other.  It's amazing the 
things that people get passionate about!  At least this one is relevant and 
on-topic!

It's worth posting a feature-request.  As you point out it surely isn't too 
tough although it's a bit of a mystery why it isn't already being given as 
one.  Just post a bug-report and use the drop-downs to make it a 
feature-request.  This guide might help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

In the mean-time it's well worth trying Regina's advice.  
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


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From: noibs noibs...@me.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 23:25

One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade of gray or some color to the background of the page.  It
will include the main page, header and footer.  Then, if you haven't already
done it, set your printing preferences in Writer to not print backgrounds. 
Create a template for new documents and you are all set.

I've been trying to envision working with multiple columns and multiple
graphics images with text wrap--basic page payout.  Yes, without the margin
guides you can get the job done, but I don't think it can be done as quickly
and as effortlessly.

Like I said above, this seems to be the way of the world right now and I
think most of it has been driven by Apple's change to the Mac OS Lion user
interface to make it more like iOS (and dumber as a result).  Because of
Apple's mandatory autosave and versions in iWork Pages, I've now returned
100% to LibreOffice because it was driving me crazy and couldn't be turned
off.  I think the Ubuntu Unity interface was created for much the same
reasons--prettier and dumber.

I'm the first to agree that LO Writer documents look way nicer without the
layout guides.  Because of that, it may attract more novice users.  Why
knows.  But a requirement and an option are two completely different things. 
Given that the code for the layout guides already exists, I seriously
question the wisdom of those who decided to make the change mandatory and
not an option.  What they are essentially saying is that they know what's
best for me.  Take it or leave it.  When I find a better option, I'll leave
it.  

I'm know I'm probably violating whatever the rules of this forum are in
terms of editorializing, so this will be it.  

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

2012-02-14 Thread IGraham

far be it for me to distract from a good developing  'discussion' ;)

thanks for the input people

the calc option, as much as i like a good spreadsheet i don't really think
its going to produce a booklet type phone number book without a good deal of
tweaking and as has been pointed out calk wont connect directly to the
thunderbird database
thanks for the suggestion though 

base, I've already connected to the database and got a output of the fields
i want, what i want now is to know how to go into design view and build an
output that would look and print off something like a purchased phone book 

Tom, havent had a chance to have a proper look at the links yet - thanks

and if anyone does have a suitable  template 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

2012-02-14 Thread NoOp

On 02/14/2012 11:17 AM, noibs wrote:
...

...

From what I gather, it was/is based on a Microsoft Word OpenOffice 'me
too' design:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboard/Writer_SpecialIndicators#Document_Margin_Design
[Document Margin Design]
-- http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DocumentBorder

Maybe also of interest:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03155.html
[libreoffice-design] [Info] Whiteboard page for Special Indicators in
Writer (Header / Footer, Document Border, Page Break)
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/DocumentBackground
http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/11689/3242/
[Some ideas to improve the look feel of LO]
http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03279.html
[same thread - different format]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2011-July/78.html
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Header and Footers separators design
(looks to be the initial start of the change)

Unanswered request on the Design list:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03578.html
[libreoffice-design] Text boundaries like 3.4.x

I tried searching for a bug report about the change but couldn't find
one. I'm surprised that a change like this doesn't have one. The only
thing I could find is:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31251
[Bug 31251 - [EasyHack] Make the default page look better ]
But that seems to be only related to the entire page background/shadow.

FWIW: I agree that this is a regression that a user option to turn the
margin lines on/off should be added. I'd recommend filing a bug report
so that the issue gets documented into the report system.

Gary

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-14 Thread Spiff

Anthonie Smit replied:
 Dutch AutoSpellcheck works for me on Windows 7 sp1 x64 - LO 3.5.0 using
the LibO_3.5.0_Win_x86_install_multi.msi installer 

Thank you, Anthonie.
That's interesting.
I used the LibO_3.5.0_Win_x86_install_multi.msi installer on Windows Vista
Ultimate SP2 32 bit.
But I doubt if the Windows version was what made the difference.
I could imagine some non-default setting for AutoSpellcheck could be what
causes the problem, but I can't find out which setting could have that
effect.
Anyone?




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-14 Thread Anthonie Smit

You can try to run LibreOffice with another user account. If that makes a
difference we know where to look.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 16:41 -0800, Anthonie Smit wrote:
 You can try to run LibreOffice with another user account. If that makes a
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 Just a little curious. What does LO 3.5 have as the Default
language? Check 
Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages  Font
(Tab).
It just might be that English is listed as the Default. If so, can you
change the setting to Dutch? (Does Dutch have the check and abc in front
of it indicating LO has the Dutch dictionary installed?)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-14 Thread Jay Lozier


Spiff,

On 02/14/2012 05:20 PM, Spiff wrote:

As I'm not sure at which list best to post, and as several lists that seem
more suitable are restricted and need a request to get access, I'll first
post to the Users list.
Please let me know if I should better post to another list.


About LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language -

AutoSpellcheck checks each word as it is typed and displays a wavy red line
under any misspelled words. When the word is corrected, the red wavy line
disappears.
Today I updated to LibO 3.5.0, using the
LibO_3.5.0_Win_x86_install_multi.msi installer, and now I notice that
AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language. When I choose English (US)
AutoSpellcheck works fine and displays a wavy red line under any misspelled
words.
Is it a bug in LibO 3.5.0, AutoSpellcheck not working for Dutch language?
(If so, at which list should I post to report that bug?)
Or is it something I can correct as user?


Best regards,
Spiff

Check when you are using the Dutch dictionary under ToolsSpelling and 
Grammsr Select Options and verify that check spelling as you type is 
selected.


To post a bug you go to https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

2012-02-14 Thread James Knott


Andreas Säger wrote:

You can export the address book in tab or comma delimited format.  You
can then import that file into Calc and do whatever you want with it.

No, you can't do anything with database data in Calc. You can not query
virtual tables nor can you generate reports nor serial letters. The TB
export to csv is completely pointless.
Once you connected a Base document to the address book you have the all the
contained tables plus the groups defined in TB plus database queries in
Writer and in Calc for multiple purposes without further export/import
procedures.

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I thought the OP simply wanted to print his address book, after 
selecting the columns he wanted to print.  That is easy enough to do in 
Calc.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frames anchoring in a technical report

2012-02-14 Thread Calvin Kim


On 02/14/2012 12:00 PM, Ethan Swint wrote:
I've been frustrated with my experience trying to anchor frames 
(containing figures and captions). What I'd really like to do is 
anchor a frame to a character (which refers to the frame's contents), 
but not force a large white space on the page if the anchor character 
and the frame don't fit on the same page.  In other words,

A) Obtain the reference character's Y coordinates, Cy
B) Obtain the frame's Y dimension, Fy
C) Obtain the text area's Y dimension, Py
C) If Py- Fy  Cy, place frame at bottom of character's page
D) else, place frame at top of page following character's page

Is this possible with LO Writer? What I've been forced to do at this 
point is to anchor the frame to the page, then move all of the frames 
in the document when my edits move text.


Thanks,
Ethan



If you anchor an object to a character, your object will be treated as a 
character. That's why there are large white space on the line of your 
object due to its height.
Instead, anchor it to a paragraph. Then you have freedom to move your 
object around.


cK


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.

Hi :)
Nicely done :)  You made an earlier post that had more ideas but i still 
haven't really had time to think about them.  Seems like some very positive 
ideas :)  I think probably other lists would be able to handle the issues 
better.  Perhaps post as feature requests using the bug-report process.  
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 21:32

 It might be good to post this suggestion to the Design List as it might be
something they are interested in at the moment. 

Thanks for the suggestion. I've now found the problem with the original
script and have a working version, still under development, so I'll modify
the original post appropriately before reposting it.

52midnight



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[libreoffice-users] more problems with LO 3.5

 I wonder if 3.5 is really ready. I checked my templates in the
splash screen: none there. I also check what was contained in my
template folder as listed in the Template Path [Tools  Options 
LibreOffice Paths]. There were all of my templates I have been using
since 3.3.4. I have not had this problem before, not even with version
3.5 Beta (RC2).
This along with some of the other posts, 3.5 is not getting better,
just different.
 The quickest way for me to get things how I want them is to follow
my own earlier advice: I grouped my templates into folders. Then with
administrative privileges, I copied my templates to the template path in
my installed LO folder. Sure enough, LO lists them by folders when I
click Templates in the LO Splash Screen.
 Strange behavior, and not a pleasant thought for people who use
quite a few templates.

--Dan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-14 Thread Spiff

Anthonie Smit wrote:
You can try to run LibreOffice with another user account. If that makes a
difference we know where to look.
Good thinking.
There was was no difference with my other user account, but that may very
well have the same settings and the same problem as the other account.
So I set up a new user account, a test-account, in which LO would have
default settings. And behold, AutoSpellcheck works for Dutch language!
But why not in the other accounts?

Dan Lewis wrote:
What does LO 3.5 have as the Default language?
Check Tools Options Language Settings Languages Font
That's Nederlands (Dutch) (so that should be OK).
Dan Lewis wrote:
Does Dutch have the check and abc in front of it indicating LO has the
Dutch dictionary installed?
Ah! It does not! Very good thinking!
How can this be? How did it lose that Dutch dictionary installation?
There's still a Nederlands spelling woordenboek en woordafbrekingsregels
2.0.0 (Dutch spelling dictionary and hyphenation rules) extension in
Extension Manager, just like in the LO-installation with the default
settings in the test-account that I mentioned.
Where should I look for a 'lost' Dutch dictionary?
How can I repair its installation in my regular accounts?

Jay Lozier wrote:
Check when you are using the Dutch dictionary under ToolsSpelling and
Grammar
Select Options and verify that check spelling as you type is selected.
Dutch is missing as an option for Text language in Spelling and Grammar!
Check spelling as you type is selected.

Dutch not having the check and ABC in front of it seems to be the problem,
as Dan pointed out.
I guess the fact that Dutch is missing as an option for Text language in
Spelling and Grammar is a result of that?

So, again:
Where should I look for the 'lost' Dutch dictionary?
How can I repair its installation in my two regular accounts?
And also quite interesting: Why was the Dutch dictionary lost in LO in my
two regular accounts? What happened with the upgrade to LibO 3.5.0?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Helper utilities and ODT to PDF conversion.

2012-02-14 Thread 52midnight


Hello Tom

Nicely done :)  You made an earlier post that had more ideas but i still  
haven't really had time to think about them.


Thanks for the kind words. Just to give you some perspective, I'm a  
retired hardware engineer and a reluctant convert to coding, but much  
enjoy Perl - Larry Wall has a major intellectual accomplishment in what  
he's achieved here, IMHO. My eyesight and coding skills are'nt up to much  
these days, but I like to encourage the Open Source movement where I can.



Seems like some very positive ideas :) I think probably other lists
would be able to handle the issues better.


OK, if you've any suggestions please let me know. Have no trouble joining  
(and abandoning) lists and forums. Most of this is off the top of my head,  
as you've probably gathered, and would need a good deal more focused  
thinking to yield a practical outcome. My fear is that the younger  
generation may not be up to it. Richard Stallman is undoubtedly the sort  
of fellow I'd find it impossible to get along with on a personal basis,  
but he's been a treasure for the OS movement and the XYZ Gens may never  
produce his like.



Perhaps post as feature requests using the bug-report process.


Hmm, an interesting thought, and thanks.

Cheers
Carl

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 18:33 -0800, Spiff wrote:
 Anthonie Smit wrote:
  You can try to run LibreOffice with another user account. If that makes a
 difference we know where to look.
 Good thinking.
 There was was no difference with my other user account, but that may very
 well have the same settings and the same problem as the other account.
 So I set up a new user account, a test-account, in which LO would have
 default settings. And behold, AutoSpellcheck works for Dutch language!
 But why not in the other accounts?
 
 Dan Lewis wrote:
  What does LO 3.5 have as the Default language?
  Check Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages  Font 
 That's Nederlands (Dutch) (so that should be OK).
 Dan Lewis wrote:
  Does Dutch have the check and abc in front of it indicating LO has the
 Dutch dictionary installed?
 Ah! It does not! Very good thinking!
 How can this be? How did it lose that Dutch dictionary installation?
 There's still a Nederlands spelling woordenboek en woordafbrekingsregels
 2.0.0 (Dutch spelling dictionary and hyphenation rules) extension in
 Extension Manager, just like in the LO-installation with the default
 settings in the test-account that I mentioned.
 Where should I look for a 'lost' Dutch dictionary?
 How can I repair its installation in my regular accounts?
 
 Jay Lozier wrote:
  Check when you are using the Dutch dictionary under ToolsSpelling and
 Grammar
 Select Options and verify that check spelling as you type is selected.
 Dutch is missing as an option for Text language in Spelling and Grammar!
 Check spelling as you type is selected.
 
 Dutch not having the check and ABC in front of it seems to be the problem,
 as Dan pointed out.
 I guess the fact that Dutch is missing as an option for Text language in
 Spelling and Grammar is a result of that?
 
 So, again:
 Where should I look for the 'lost' Dutch dictionary?
 How can I repair its installation in my two regular accounts?
 And also quite interesting: Why was the Dutch dictionary lost in LO in my
 two regular accounts? What happened with the upgrade to LibO 3.5.0?

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html

Click this link to download the Dutch dictionary in an LO extension.

--Dan



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[libreoffice-users] Re: more problems with LO 3.5

2012-02-14 Thread NoOp

On 02/14/2012 06:18 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:
I wonder if 3.5 is really ready. I checked my templates in the
splash screen: none there. I also check what was contained in my
template folder as listed in the Template Path [Tools Options
LibreOffice Paths]. There were all of my templates I have been using
since 3.3.4. I have not had this problem before, not even with version
3.5 Beta (RC2).
This along with some of the other posts, 3.5 is not getting better,
just different.
The quickest way for me to get things how I want them is to follow
my own earlier advice: I grouped my templates into folders. Then with
administrative privileges, I copied my templates to the template path in
my installed LO folder. Sure enough, LO lists them by folders when I
click Templates in the LO Splash Screen.
Strange behavior, and not a pleasant thought for people who use
quite a few templates.

--Dan

Notice that in linux, the user profile path is now
~/.config/libreoffice/3/ rather than ~/.libreoffice.

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/
[User profile path on Linux changed from ~/.libreoffice to
~/.config/libreoffice (see mail archive)]

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-February/025830.html
[changes in profile path in release notes for 3.5]

The above doesn't give a *user* explaination why, it just shows the
addition to the release notes and points to the git page where the code
resides:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9276f7d5740a28b342db2a9bcd8644ff2f4f5742

Reasoning links back to here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32263
[Config file location]
and
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=87678
[OOo should use FreeDesktop.org base-dir spec for file locations on Linux]

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: more problems with LO 3.5