Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shortcut problem

[Jay Lozier]

On 05/13/2012 10:23 PM, Empty wrote:

Thanks for your reply!

I am using 'Times New Roman' in English and 'Arial Unicode MS' in Japanese
and Korean.

That should rule out a specific font problem.


As I can`t using shortcut in Korean IME, type Korean first and use shortcut
after changing IME to English or Japanese.

In other words:

Type Korean → Change IME to English(or Japanese) →  Select word → Command +
I

It works if I do like above. So I think there are no problem of a font.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Data Entry in a Form

[Jay Lozier]

On 05/13/2012 06:03 PM, Herman Leggon wrote:

Regina

Thanks
  I did not include a key because there was no need  to identify the entry as 
unique. There are only 20 records…

Herman

Herman,

I find it good practice to always define a primary key. The simplest is 
to assign a key using integers.

On May 13, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:


Hi Herman,

Herman Leggon schrieb:

I've design and created a simple database(mailing list). But I having
trouble adding items to the database. What am I missing?

What kind of database do you use? You find this information on the left side of 
the status bar. If it is a embedded HSQL database, the most likeley reason is, 
that you have missed to define a premary key.

Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Shortcut problem

[Empty]

Thanks for your reply!

I am using 'Times New Roman' in English and 'Arial Unicode MS' in Japanese
and Korean.

As I can`t using shortcut in Korean IME, type Korean first and use shortcut
after changing IME to English or Japanese.

In other words:

Type Korean → Change IME to English(or Japanese) →  Select word → Command +
I

It works if I do like above. So I think there are no problem of a font.
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

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On 05/13/2012 03:17 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 21:18 13/05/2012 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Are you suggesting that the compatibility packs update the Word | 
Powerpoint | Excel Viewers?


Yes.

Brian Barker




I tried their "compatibility pack" for MSO 2003 that "stated" that it 
would allow 2003 to read properly MSO 2007 files.  Well it did not 
work.  Then it stated that you needed the Word viewer to get the pack to 
read Word 2007 files.  Well, since my XP system once had Word 2003 
installed and there was still "residue" of it in the registry, the Word 
viewer failed to install since it claimed I had Word 2003 installed and 
both could not be installed on the same system.


SO
I have had a lot of problems with MS's "compatibility pack" actually 
working.  It would not allow me to read Word 2007 files the way it was 
"claimed" it would do.


Now the real thing LO needs is more work on the .docx [2007 and 2010 
versions] file filtering system.  The better LO [and AOO] can read and 
write .docx files, the better it would be for people who do not want to 
deal with MSO.  Then there are the people, like me, who use Linux and 
our options on getting MSO running properly on our systems is low.


Get the importing filtering for LO/AOO working more and better it the 
real option instead of getting a viewer package.  I want my LO to read 
100% of the .docx files I get from the government agencies who have a 
contract with MSO and are no allowed to install LO on their systems [or 
even use a thumb drive for 2 of them].


If a third-party can get .docx files to read better than it can for LO, 
we need that coding.


But if MSO states that there may be a difference in readability based on 
your OS and other factors, then buying MSO 2010 for an XP, a Vista, and 
a Win7 system and get the same results for all three systems will be 
something that even MSO will not guarantee.  I thing that there is 
something really "wrong" with their own coding if they cannot guarantee 
it will work with all the OSs that MSO2010 can be installed on.  It 
should not make a difference, but it can.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Data Entry in a Form

[Herman Leggon]

Regina

Thanks
 I did not include a key because there was no need  to identify the entry as 
unique. There are only 20 records…

Herman
On May 13, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> Hi Herman,
> 
> Herman Leggon schrieb:
>> I've design and created a simple database(mailing list). But I having
>> trouble adding items to the database. What am I missing?
> 
> What kind of database do you use? You find this information on the left side 
> of the status bar. If it is a embedded HSQL database, the most likeley reason 
> is, that you have missed to define a premary key.
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Data Entry in a Form

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Herman,

Herman Leggon schrieb:

I've design and created a simple database(mailing list). But I having
trouble adding items to the database. What am I missing?


What kind of database do you use? You find this information on the left 
side of the status bar. If it is a embedded HSQL database, the most 
likeley reason is, that you have missed to define a premary key.


Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] Data Entry in a Form

[Herman Leggon]

I've design and created a simple database(mailing list). But I having trouble 
adding items to the database. What am I missing?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

[jomali]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

> At 08:50 10/05/2012 -0400, Jomali Noname wrote:
>
>> I just open the .docx in LibO, manipulate it in LibO, save it as .odt and
>> send it back to them as .doc. They never notice, and then it's a .doc
>> forever.
>>
>
> This not a foolproof solution.  There are new functionalities in Word 2007
> and 2010, of course, that can be saved in .docx but not in .doc format.  If
> the originator of your document has used any of these (whether or not they
> understand the problem) some facet of their document will be missing when
> you return it to them.  In this case they will notice.  They might not
> understand how, but they will know that you broke their document!
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
Maybe so, but it hasn't been a problem yet!

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[Gilles SICHE]

I have just upgraded LibreOffice to the 3 5 3 2 version and I don't seem to
be able to merge documents anymore, when I choose an ods file to get data
from to insert in the odt document, the OK button is not valid.

Thank you for your help,

G. Siche

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Brian Barker]

At 21:18 13/05/2012 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Are you suggesting that the compatibility packs update the Word | 
Powerpoint | Excel Viewers?


Yes.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening all files in a folder

[Kelly Holman]

My phone would have no trouble with the multiple files -- that
solution will work. It just can't do databases.

On 5/13/12, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> I was thinking of file-names such as "Clients-Ab-Am" ... "Clients-V-Z" or
> perhaps by date although by date ends up being a nightmare.  Alphabetical is
> usually easier.
>
> I'm not sure how smart-phones work but i imagine they have folders and
> sub-folders so a  sub-folder called "Clients" containing all these files
> would be easy to scroll through to find the relevant file quite quickly.
> With some OSes If you type the first letter of the file you are looking for
> then it automatically scrolls to roughly the right area.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 13/5/12, Kelly Holman  wrote:
>
> From: Kelly Holman 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening all files in a folder
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Sunday, 13 May, 2012, 8:32
>
> Thanks for the detailed instructions -- I wouldn't have thought of
> some of those things until I was in the middle of it.
>
> I also thought of doing an archive file and a current file. However,
> part of the problem is that when I'm entering data from the
> smartphone, it doesn't show me the tab name. I'm quite absent-minded
> enough to enter the data for the wrong client, because it opens into
> whatever tab I used last, and I can't see the name at the top when I'm
> down in the list.
>
> Another solution would be to put the client names = file names in
> another file. It would mean an extra step when adding a new client,
> but at least it would be a simple step, if I can't get the names of
> all the files.
> I'll have to ponder which of these ways will be the best. Yes, this
> would work better in a database, but I need to be able to enter the
> ledger data from my phone, and have it give me the current balance.
> And I need to do calculations on the computer, but still have all the
> data in the spreadsheet, available on the phone.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On 5/13/12, Tom Davies  wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> There might be a more elegant way of doing this (such as using a database
>> instead) but my way would be;
>> 1.  to plan to group them into groups of 2-5 tabs per file.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Dotan Cohen]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Brian Barker  wrote:
>> Note that those [the freeware Microsoft viewers for Word, Excel, and
>> Powerpoint document files] will not open .docx files: ...
>
>
> Natively, this is true, but read on ...
>
>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090 "Please note that there was not a
>> Word Viewer created for Word Viewer 2007 or Word Viewer 2010. To view Word
>> 2007 and 2010 documents, please download the following link and install the
>> Office Compatibility Pack noted below"
>>
>> I like the typos on the MS site! The "following link" links to an Office
>> Compatibility Pack for older versions of MS Office, so those with no MS
>> Office installed cannot view Word 2007/2010 files.
>
>
> I think you miss the point here: the instruction is both to download (the
> viewer) and install the Compatibility Pack.
>
> The Compatibility Pack is indeed intended for systems with Microsoft Office
> XP (2002) or 2003 and it enables those versions of Office, as modified, to
> open, edit, and save documents in the new "x" formats.  But it is equally
> applicable to the freeware viewers (which are effectively cut-down versions
> of components of Office 2003) and enables the viewers, as similarly
> modified, to open, display, and print documents in the newer formats too.
>

Hi, Brian. Are you suggesting that the compatibility packs update the
Word | Powerpoint | Excel Viewers? I understood that to not be the
case when I last tried some years ago (~2009, and the code has not
been updated since I see).




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

@Brian,

Thanks for the helpful rundown on viewers.

For Windows and non-Windows platforms, the on-line SkyDrive viewers and editors 
can be used as well.  There is reduced functionality, but it is probably still 
better than what happens attempting to use DOCX in OpenOffice-lineage software.

Recently, they added not only storage but viewer/editor support for some ODF 
Formats, primarily ODF Text.

See .

(There is now access to some of these on Smartphones too.)

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From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 09:50
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

At 19:27 13/05/2012 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>Note that those [the freeware Microsoft viewers for Word, Excel, and 
>Powerpoint document files] will not open .docx files: ...

Natively, this is true, but read on ...

>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090 "Please note that there was 
>not a Word Viewer created for Word Viewer 2007 or Word Viewer 2010. 
>To view Word 2007 and 2010 documents, please download the following 
>link and install the Office Compatibility Pack noted below"
>
>I like the typos on the MS site! The "following link" links to an 
>Office Compatibility Pack for older versions of MS Office, so those 
>with no MS Office installed cannot view Word 2007/2010 files.

I think you miss the point here: the instruction is both to download 
(the viewer) and install the Compatibility Pack.

The Compatibility Pack is indeed intended for systems with Microsoft 
Office XP (2002) or 2003 and it enables those versions of Office, as 
modified, to open, edit, and save documents in the new "x" 
formats.  But it is equally applicable to the freeware viewers (which 
are effectively cut-down versions of components of Office 2003) and 
enables the viewers, as similarly modified, to open, display, and 
print documents in the newer formats too.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

[Brian Barker]

At 08:50 10/05/2012 -0400, Jomali Noname wrote:
I just open the .docx in LibO, manipulate it in LibO, save it as 
.odt and send it back to them as .doc. They never notice, and then 
it's a .doc forever.


This not a foolproof solution.  There are new functionalities in Word 
2007 and 2010, of course, that can be saved in .docx but not in .doc 
format.  If the originator of your document has used any of these 
(whether or not they understand the problem) some facet of their 
document will be missing when you return it to them.  In this case 
they will notice.  They might not understand how, but they will know 
that you broke their document!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Brian Barker]

At 19:27 13/05/2012 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Note that those [the freeware Microsoft viewers for Word, Excel, and 
Powerpoint document files] will not open .docx files: ...


Natively, this is true, but read on ...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090 "Please note that there was 
not a Word Viewer created for Word Viewer 2007 or Word Viewer 2010. 
To view Word 2007 and 2010 documents, please download the following 
link and install the Office Compatibility Pack noted below"


I like the typos on the MS site! The "following link" links to an 
Office Compatibility Pack for older versions of MS Office, so those 
with no MS Office installed cannot view Word 2007/2010 files.


I think you miss the point here: the instruction is both to download 
(the viewer) and install the Compatibility Pack.


The Compatibility Pack is indeed intended for systems with Microsoft 
Office XP (2002) or 2003 and it enables those versions of Office, as 
modified, to open, edit, and save documents in the new "x" 
formats.  But it is equally applicable to the freeware viewers (which 
are effectively cut-down versions of components of Office 2003) and 
enables the viewers, as similarly modified, to open, display, and 
print documents in the newer formats too.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Dotan Cohen]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> Note that the online MS Office works just fine in Firefox on Linux, bt
> you need to open an account:
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/online-software.aspx
>

Sorry, there is a free, reduced version available under a different
name as well:
http://office2010.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: DocX

[Dotan Cohen]

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Andreas Säger  wrote:
> Am 11.05.2012 09:51, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi :)
>> They might be good on Windows machines but i suspect they are not perfect
>> at reading DocX either. MSO 2010 implements DocX differently from 2007 and
>> according to Microsoft's 2010 installer it can be different on different on
>> different versions of Windows, ie different between 2010 on Xp and 2010 on
>> Win7.
>>
>> So i think it's well worth trying just in case it does work well
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>
> Of course they do work very well. These viewers come from the people having
> the source code of the one and only reference implementation and not only
> the format specs.
> 3 viewers to read 7 file formats[*] in 155 MB. This is a higher download
> volume than the full blown AOO suite.
>
> [*] rtf, doc(x), xls(x), ppt(x) not including the XML formats of 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13 [60MB]
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=4 [24MB]
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10 [71MB]
>

Note that those will note open .docx files:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090
"Please note that there was not a Word Viewer created for Word Viewer
2007 or Word Viewer 2010. To view Word 2007 and 2010 documents, please
download the following link and install the Office Compatibility Pack
noted below"

I like the typos on the MS site! The "following link" links to an
Office Compatibility Pack for older versions of MS Office, so those
with no MS Office installed cannot view Word 2007/2010 files.

Note that the online MS Office works just fine in Firefox on Linux, bt
you need to open an account:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/online-software.aspx

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Shortcut problem

[Jay Lozier]

On 05/13/2012 04:35 AM, Empty wrote:

Hi!

I`m using Writer in OSX 10.6 and usually typing Korean.

My question is how can I use shortcuts(like Command + I is Italic) in typing
in Korean.

It works well if input language is English and Japanese but not Korean.

I need your help! Thanks!

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Korean. It is possible the Korean font(s) you are using do not have an 
italic face properly defined.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] DocX

[James Knott]

Many OS/2 apps had features that would be difficult or impossible to do 
elsewhere, as they relied on features of OS/2 that are not available 
with other operating systems.  It was capable of many things that I have 
never seen elsewhere.


Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It would be great to add those ideas as "feature requests"
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

They might not get worked on but someone might get interested and add it. 
Regards from
Tom :) 



--- On Sun, 13/5/12, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

From: Steve Edmonds
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] DocX
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 13 May, 2012, 7:47

Had that too, and Mesa that had some functionality generally still not
found today.

On 2012-05-12 23:31, James Knott wrote:

Steve Edmonds wrote:

I was using star office on OS/2 15 years ago.

While I had Star Office, I used Describe back then.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening all files in a folder

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I was thinking of file-names such as "Clients-Ab-Am" ... "Clients-V-Z" or 
perhaps by date although by date ends up being a nightmare.  Alphabetical is 
usually easier.  

I'm not sure how smart-phones work but i imagine they have folders and 
sub-folders so a  sub-folder called "Clients" containing all these files would 
be easy to scroll through to find the relevant file quite quickly.  With some 
OSes If you type the first letter of the file you are looking for then it 
automatically scrolls to roughly the right area.  

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sun, 13/5/12, Kelly Holman  wrote:

From: Kelly Holman 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening all files in a folder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 13 May, 2012, 8:32

Thanks for the detailed instructions -- I wouldn't have thought of
some of those things until I was in the middle of it.

I also thought of doing an archive file and a current file. However,
part of the problem is that when I'm entering data from the
smartphone, it doesn't show me the tab name. I'm quite absent-minded
enough to enter the data for the wrong client, because it opens into
whatever tab I used last, and I can't see the name at the top when I'm
down in the list.

Another solution would be to put the client names = file names in
another file. It would mean an extra step when adding a new client,
but at least it would be a simple step, if I can't get the names of
all the files.
I'll have to ponder which of these ways will be the best. Yes, this
would work better in a database, but I need to be able to enter the
ledger data from my phone, and have it give me the current balance.
And I need to do calculations on the computer, but still have all the
data in the spreadsheet, available on the phone.

Thanks!


On 5/13/12, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> There might be a more elegant way of doing this (such as using a database
> instead) but my way would be;
> 1.  to plan to group them into groups of 2-5 tabs per file.

~
Kelly C. Holman
Hidden Talents Tutoring
Menomonie, WI
715-231-2191

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[libreoffice-users] Shortcut problem

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Hi!

I`m using Writer in OSX 10.6 and usually typing Korean.

My question is how can I use shortcuts(like Command + I is Italic) in typing
in Korean.

It works well if input language is English and Japanese but not Korean.

I need your help! Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] DocX

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It would be great to add those ideas as "feature requests"
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

They might not get worked on but someone might get interested and add it.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 13/5/12, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

From: Steve Edmonds 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] DocX
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 13 May, 2012, 7:47

Had that too, and Mesa that had some functionality generally still not 
found today.

On 2012-05-12 23:31, James Knott wrote:
> Steve Edmonds wrote:
>> I was using star office on OS/2 15 years ago.
>
> While I had Star Office, I used Describe back then.
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening all files in a folder

[Kelly Holman]

Thanks for the detailed instructions -- I wouldn't have thought of
some of those things until I was in the middle of it.

I also thought of doing an archive file and a current file. However,
part of the problem is that when I'm entering data from the
smartphone, it doesn't show me the tab name. I'm quite absent-minded
enough to enter the data for the wrong client, because it opens into
whatever tab I used last, and I can't see the name at the top when I'm
down in the list.

Another solution would be to put the client names = file names in
another file. It would mean an extra step when adding a new client,
but at least it would be a simple step, if I can't get the names of
all the files.
I'll have to ponder which of these ways will be the best. Yes, this
would work better in a database, but I need to be able to enter the
ledger data from my phone, and have it give me the current balance.
And I need to do calculations on the computer, but still have all the
data in the spreadsheet, available on the phone.

Thanks!


On 5/13/12, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> There might be a more elegant way of doing this (such as using a database
> instead) but my way would be;
> 1.  to plan to group them into groups of 2-5 tabs per file.

~
Kelly C. Holman
Hidden Talents Tutoring
Menomonie, WI
715-231-2191

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