Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Girvin ,

You must know that ORB , when openning a report, first  execute the SQL 
commands saved with the report, this can surrly takes some time, then 
you can give a new 'actual)set off SQL commands. Therefore we never safe 
the reports with real SQL commands, we just make a dummy command and so 
the reports are comming up match quicker.

Hope its helps

Fernand



Andreas Säger wrote:
With LibO 3.5 under Linux I can use any recent Java version without 
any issues. I tested 1.6.22, 1.6.31 and 1.7. Any of these simply work 
with my Java databases.
I avoid the report builder like illness. If you feel the need to 
dance with this software diva then you should do all calculations, 
filtering, grouping and sorting in SQL leaving the only good looking 
stuff up to the beast.




Andreas,
Thanks for your reply.  Report Builder (RB) has always been a beast 
to me too, but it is the only option I know of for printing my 
database data in a human readable form.  So, I have to live with it, 
at least until I find something better.  Before Base, I was using 
Rekall, which had some nice features.  But that Open Source version is 
no longer supported, so that option is dead.
I am using a SQL query to sort and provide all the data to Report 
Builder.  I am not using any RB grouping or filtering either.  It is 
just a flat data set for RB to pretty up for printing.  That is why 
I don't see why it is so slow.  All the real time consumers, such as 
sorting, are being done by MySQL.  Also, after writer displays my 
first page or two, it goes out to lunch again, as if it is 
recalculating everything all over again.  That is frustrating, since 
it locks up and I have to wait several more minutes for another 
couple-second window where I can scroll or kill it before it goes off 
again.
I will certainly take your experience to heart and your recommendation 
to update my Java.

Thanks again.
Girvin





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Re: [libreoffice-users] right-clicking Font list options not showing all my installed fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:55 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 Font formatting issue

 You highlight your text, then right-click

 The you choose the Font option.

 For me, when I go down the list, I do not go out of the A's for the font
 names.

 How many fonts is that list designed to deal with?

100 (max.), see:
OOo-Bug 61775 - Too Many Fonts in Context Menu; also context menu can
take many seconds to appear with too many fonts installed
→ https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=61775

 With all of the variations [bold, italic, bold italic, etc.] of the fonts
 and their file names, I have over 500 fonts installed on my default desktop
 computer.

 So I was wondering about how to show more fonts in that list.  For people
 that have a lot of fonts installed on their desktop, it looks like you are
 not able to see all of their font names in that shortened list.

 So, it there some reason there is a shortened ability there when the Font
 list pull down box allows all of the fonts I have does show up?  It seems
 like there is a possible problem here for some people.  It can cause me
 problems if I follow the instructions for doing font formatting in certain
 ways.  That right-click options show some options for font displaying, like
 overlines and other non-standard things that are not shown in the taskbar
 options for font formatting.  So if one part of that formatting system is
 limited, then can I trust that the other options will not cause issues later
 on for my documents?  I did find that if I formatted a text with the
 right-clicked overline and shadowed, I need to use the same right-clicking
 to remove it instead of using the normal taskbar formatting options.

You may add a comment to
Bug 34085 - [EDITING] [UI] List of fonts incomplete in context menu
→ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34085


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[libreoffice-users] Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Guy Voets
Hello,

For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
use it in LO on my Mac.
I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
'open'...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, MiguelAngel wrote:
Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because 
a 0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the 
right/left of decimal point are never saved.


Computers store numbers in a fixed-length format - however-many 
bytes.  So there are always the same number of binary digits stored - 
which equates to a different but similarly (approximately) fixed 
number of decimal digits stored (unless you choose multiple 
precision, of course).  So surely what you may think of as 
nonsignificant zeroes are not never but *always* stored?


Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Dan,
Wow! That worked fine. Thanks.
However, I had to copy and paste the database data from the Data Source
window into the Calc spreadsheet. Is there a way to dynamically get the
current data to the spreadsheet so I don't have to cut and paste every
time I have new data?
If so, it would be a lot less error-prone (and easier). However, I can
see that not being able to do so, is not a show-stopper for using Calc
to do my reports.
Note that the data copy, although it took a little time, was *much*
faster than Report Builder! :-)
I am going to have to play with this some more...
Thanks very much.
Girvin





-- When you drag the query icon from the left pane of the data source 
window onto a Calc cell you will get a semi-automatic link. Call 
menu:DataRefresh to refresh the link.
-- When you drag selected row selectors you get a copy of selected rows. 
The top-left corner of a row set selects all rows. Same with queries, 
views and tables opened from some database window.
-- Dragging a query icon from the database window creates a refreshable 
link as well but the link breaks when the connection closes. Bug or not 
bug? Who cares?
-- From a form you can copy from the additional grid view. Hit the last 
button on the navigation tool bar.


The linked data range resizes dynamically with every refresh.
Any formula cells directly adjacent to the import range will expand and 
shrink with the resized data range. So the clearly defined row sets of a 
database enable dynamically resizing formula ranges. A feature that does 
not exist with a pure spreadsheet. Tons of silly macro code have been 
written for this.


Its properties are accessible via menu:DataDefine...
Below [More Options] we have 4 widely unknown options:
1) Contains column labels (always true for database imports)
2) Keep formatting: spreadsheet formatting overrides any Base 
formatting. Should be true by default.
3) Insert/remove cells: Do not overwrite/clear cells when the database 
range expands/shrinks. Should be true by default, particularly with 
resizing formula ranges.
4) Don't save imported data. Useful with very large row sets and when 
you want to refresh on open. Prompts for refresh when opening the file.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.05.2012 12:40, Andreas Säger wrote:


The linked data range resizes dynamically with every refresh.
Any formula cells directly adjacent to the import range will expand and
shrink with the resized data range. So the clearly defined row sets of a
database enable dynamically resizing formula ranges. A feature that does
not exist with a pure spreadsheet. Tons of silly macro code have been
written for this.



I forgot:
All references in formulas, conditional formatting, validation and 
charts dynamically adjust to the resized data range.
A reference A2:A99 becomes A2:A100 when the import range grows by one 
row after refresh.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.05.2012 00:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote:


As an update to my problem with Report Builder, my 1500+ record database
takes 94 pages of a Report Builder / Writer document. I put on my
patience hat and timed how long it takes to format the report, ready for
printing. As a baseline, it takes about 49 minutes to create the
original document. I cleared my preferences and re-entered them, using
mostly defaults and timed it again: 49 minutes. So it is not preference
corruption from previous versions. I then updated my java to 1.6u30 and
timed it again: 49 minutes. So, it doesn't look like Java is the
problem. I then went back to my original use of SQL from when I created
the report with the wizard, rather than using a query for the data and
timed it: 49 minutes! No matter what I do, it takes about the same
excruciatingly long time to build my report. What is really frustrating
is that there is no status popup to inform me of what it is doing. It
just goes out to lunch. Actually, it seems to initially create 128 pages
with header and footer, but no data, at the end of the first sleep.
When the page status at the bottom of the writer window drops to 94
pages, I know it is done. Every so many pages, it does come back alive
for a second or two and then goes out to lunch again for several
minutes. Each time it returns, a few more pages are populated with data.
Girvin




Every time when there is a performance problem with this office suite, 
Tom blames Java. It has to be Java just because Java is evil.


Now this may be related to the one and only Java related performance 
problem and Tom does not even notice.


You are running the combination of Linux, Base plus JDBC?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.05.2012 11:59, Guy Voets wrote:

Hello,

For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
use it in LO on my Mac.
I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
'open'...



You are the one to find out. It costs you nothing to download this 
software and give a try. We don't have the Open Type fonts you are 
talking about.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread drew jensen
On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:53 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 26.05.2012 00:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 
  As an update to my problem with Report Builder, my 1500+ record database
  takes 94 pages of a Report Builder / Writer document. I put on my
  patience hat and timed how long it takes to format the report, ready for
  printing. As a baseline, it takes about 49 minutes to create the
  original document. I cleared my preferences and re-entered them, using
  mostly defaults and timed it again: 49 minutes. So it is not preference
  corruption from previous versions. I then updated my java to 1.6u30 and
  timed it again: 49 minutes. So, it doesn't look like Java is the
  problem. I then went back to my original use of SQL from when I created
  the report with the wizard, rather than using a query for the data and
  timed it: 49 minutes! No matter what I do, it takes about the same
  excruciatingly long time to build my report. What is really frustrating
  is that there is no status popup to inform me of what it is doing. It
  just goes out to lunch. Actually, it seems to initially create 128 pages
  with header and footer, but no data, at the end of the first sleep.
  When the page status at the bottom of the writer window drops to 94
  pages, I know it is done. Every so many pages, it does come back alive
  for a second or two and then goes out to lunch again for several
  minutes. Each time it returns, a few more pages are populated with data.
  Girvin
 
 
 
 Every time when there is a performance problem with this office suite, 
 Tom blames Java. It has to be Java just because Java is evil.
 
 Now this may be related to the one and only Java related performance 
 problem and Tom does not even notice.
 
 You are running the combination of Linux, Base plus JDBC?

Ah I missed that last bit - yup, those JDBC connections can suck - has
the OP tried ODBC?

//drew

 
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.05.2012 13:32, drew jensen wrote:

On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:53 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote:



You are running the combination of Linux, Base plus JDBC?


Ah I missed that last bit - yup, those JDBC connections can suck - has
the OP tried ODBC?

//drew




I was thinking of this problem which affects Linux+Java-DB+LibO before 3.5:

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=125253highlight=java+linux


The problem has gone with LibreOffice 3.5 and it did not exist under 
operating systems other than Linux.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Guy Voets
2012/5/26 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de

 Am 26.05.2012 11:59, Guy Voets wrote:

 Hello,

 For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
 Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
 He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
 use it in LO on my Mac.
 I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
 'open'...


 You are the one to find out. It costs you nothing to download this
 software and give a try. We don't have the Open Type fonts you are talking
 about.

 Thanks, Andrea, but they're not exactly free. A single font costs 26 $,
the whole family 280 $. I'm talking about the Avenir and ITC Stone families.
Anybody knows how they behave on Mac  LO?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Guy Voets
2012/5/26 Guy Voets nimant...@gmail.com

 2012/5/26 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de

 Am 26.05.2012 11:59, Guy Voets wrote:

 Hello,

 For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
 Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
 He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
 use it in LO on my Mac.
 I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
 'open'...


 You are the one to find out. It costs you nothing to download this
 software and give a try. We don't have the Open Type fonts you are talking
 about.

 Thanks, Andrea, but they're not exactly free. A single font costs 26 $,
 the whole family 280 $. I'm talking about the Avenir and ITC Stone families.
 Anybody knows how they behave on Mac  LO?

Sorry, Andreas... with S


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column

2012-05-26 Thread MiguelAngel

El 26/05/12 12:41, Brian Barker escribió:

At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, MiguelAngel wrote:

Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because a
0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the right/left of
decimal point are never saved.


Computers store numbers in a fixed-length format - however-many bytes.
So there are always the same number of binary digits stored - which
equates to a different but similarly (approximately) fixed number of
decimal digits stored (unless you choose multiple precision, of course).
So surely what you may think of as nonsignificant zeroes are not never
but *always* stored?

Brian Barker




I think not a fixed format, but a fixed length with eight bytes used to 
store the number in memory, as result fourteen significant numbers.


In any case the user can't find 0. or 000.00, we can search for 0.

In content.xml file one of the files in .ods file, we can see the saved 
values in office:value tag and the representation of the value in text:p 
tag.


- table:table table:name=Sheet1 table:style-name=ta1
  table:table-column table:style-name=co2 
table:default-cell-style-name=Default /

- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell table:style-name=ce1 office:value-type=float 
office:value=0

  text:p000,000/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=12345
  text:p12345/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=0.12345
  text:p0,12/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=123.123
  text:p123,12/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell table:style-name=ce2 office:value-type=float 
office:value=1.23456578901234E+015

  text:p1,23E+015/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
- table:table-row table:style-name=ro2
- table:table-cell table:style-name=ce3 office:value-type=float 
office:value=1.23456578901234E+015

  text:p1234565789012340/text:p
  /table:table-cell
  /table:table-row
  /table:table


Miguel Ángel.

 * Inglés - detectado
 * Inglés
 * Español
 * Gallego
 * Italiano

 * Inglés
 * Español
 * Gallego
 * Italiano

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 05/26/2012 09:06 AM, Guy Voets wrote:

2012/5/26 Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de


Am 26.05.2012 11:59, Guy Voets wrote:


Hello,

For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
use it in LO on my Mac.
I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
'open'...



You are the one to find out. It costs you nothing to download this
software and give a try. We don't have the Open Type fonts you are talking
about.

Thanks, Andrea, but they're not exactly free. A single font costs 26 $,

the whole family 280 $. I'm talking about the Avenir and ITC Stone families.
Anybody knows how they behave on Mac  LO?



You are talking about the .OTF font files - right.
It there any reason you are not using .TTF files?

As for .OTF fonts from Adobe, Avenir 45 Book and Stone Sans;

   I went to my Adobe collection extracted one fonts from those names
   and installed then on my Ubuntu 10.04 system.  Then I looked for
   them in LO.  They showed up and seemed to work fine.

I do not own a Mac, so I cannot say for that OS, but it does show up in 
LO with my system.


I have Adobe fonts that have a file date of 2006, so I do not know if 
Adobe changed anything since then.  I have [I believe] their complete 
font set in my collection.  I have the TTF and OTF fonts stored in 
different zipped files.  TTF - 191 MB zipped file, and OTF - 137 MB 
zipped file.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought that the Calc route just read the data that is contained in the 
database?  I didn't think it converted it or export-imported it or dragged it 
in, i just thought it was another way of accessing the data.  Also i kinda had 
assumed that the Calc route would allow you to view Queries in the same way as 
you access normal tables.  

I don't really understand everything in Andreas' links but it seemed to fit in 
with what Girvin was asking for.  Quite a few people here have been extremely 
helpful to people using Base but i only remember Andreas going on about the 
alternatives to the Report Builder.  Possibly Alex, Drew, Dan and others have 
mentioned things too but i just hadn't remembered anything i could find 
reliably.  

It would be really good if a few of you experts in Base could write it up, 
maybe help Dan or expand on the work he has done.  

In response to Andreas' How would you write a guide for hammer, chisel, plow, 
saw and file? 
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Hammer-Safely
It is estimated that some 50,000 Americans seek treatment every year as a 
result of a hammer injury.  I guess it's similar in other countries but rant 
[deleted] /rant]
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/09/29/how-to-use-a-hammer/
A lot of men today are clueless when it comes to tools. rant re:sexist 
[deleted] /rant
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-Vavles-Hammer-Editor/
http://www.hammernet.com/tips.htm
I'll ignore the bladed weaponry and activities that most people have no idea 
about (eg how many people really plow these days?! lol)
http://www.wikihow.com/Organize-Files
http://zenhabits.net/how-to-simplify-your-filing-system-or-why-stacking-just-doesnt-work/
http://www.realsimple.com/beauty-fashion/skincare/hands-feet/file-shape-nails-002331/index.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_2034410_file-nails.html
http://www.nailsmag.com/article/474/getting-nails-into-shape
http://www.wikihow.com/File-Metal

Just because you know something so thoroughly well that it seems easier than 
falling off a bike doesn't mean that anyone else can cope with any of it.  
Usually people that make something look easy have broken it down and worked 
hard at each step to make it smoother and less liable to break or go wrong or 
streamlined for speed.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sat, 26/5/12, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:

From: drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 4:50

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:02 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 
 drew jensen wrote:
 8...
 
  Hi Tom
 
  Really - you seem to know a lot, are you writing a manual?
 
  @Girvin - there is no place that I've seen the report builder be that
  slow and not have an installation problem - not saying it is impossible
  but sounds really odd. 1500 records in a tabular report, 49 seconds is a
  long time for that actually. There is one exception to that, graphics -
  is your report including graphics stored in data fields?
 
  On the other hand Calc, as has been pointed out, might be your preferred
  path.
 
  Best,
 
  //drew
 
    
 8...
 
 Hello Drew,
 I understand what you are saying, but I installed the LO 3.5.2 binary 
 (RPM) packages from the LO website.  I repackaged them for Slackware, 
 but that does not change the 1s and 0s, just unpacks the RPMs and 
 re-packages the files into a Slackware package for installation.  
 Therefore, if there is an installation problem, it seems to be in the LO 
 packages.  Note that I am using the Report Builder bundled into LO, not 
 the version from the extensions website.  I do believe the newest is 
 1.2.1 rev 2, and the one in LO is still 1.0-something.  I have not tried 
 to replace the bundled version with the 1.2 version.
 
 I could live with 49 _seconds_.  However, it is taking 49 _minutes_ 
 for my report.  My database is nothing special, just text and integer 
 values.  Nine elements plus the key per record.  No graphics.  So, yes, 
 this problem does sound unusual.  However, I have not been able to pin 
 down the problem yet.  In the meantime, I am looking into using Calc to 
 print my data.  It looks good and will do until I can get RB working.
 
 BTW: The report is a simple text page header, Detail, and page footer, 
 no graphics there either.  I do have the date and time fields in the 
 header, but that shouldn't bring it down.  Actually, I do have some 
 separator lines inserted at the bottom of the header and the bottom of 
 each Detail line.  Page number at the bottom of the footer.  That's it.
 Thanks for the help.
Hi Girvin

Sounds like it aught to run lickity-split...hmm

Anyway - looks like you are off to use Cacl.

You might want to do this.

When you open the data window under Calc, instead of copy/paste from the
data grid - grad, drag and drop the actual query name from the left side
of the data window. This will create a named range, you can set 

Re: [libreoffice-users] is there an Open office equivalent to Visio 2000

2012-05-26 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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 Have you tried Draw in LibreOffice 3.5.3? I know it can handle some
Visio Files
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Related:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374854/no-free-visual-studio-for-windows-8-desktop-developers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:43 26/05/2012 +0200, Miguel Angel wrote:

El 26/05/12 12:41, Brian Barker escribió:

At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, Miguel Angel wrote:
Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it 
can't be found, because a 0.000 is always 
saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the 
right/left of decimal point are never saved.


Computers store numbers in a fixed-length 
format - however-many bytes. So there are 
always the same number of binary digits stored 
- which equates to a different but similarly 
(approximately) fixed number of decimal digits 
stored (unless you choose multiple precision, 
of course). So surely what you may think of as 
nonsignificant zeroes are not never but *always* stored?


I think not a fixed format, but a fixed length 
with eight bytes used to store the number in 
memory, as result fourteen significant numbers.


There has to be a format in which the numbers are 
stored, of course (however many bytes are used): 
fourteen significant decimal digits maps to about 
47 binary digits - just under six bytes.  The 
rest of the space is used for an exponent and for 
signs for both the exponent and the number 
itself.  There are many possible formats, but 
there has to be a fixed one in each computer or system.


In content.xml file one of the files in .ods 
file, we can see the saved values in 
office:value tag and the representation of the value in text:p tag.


Thanks for this.  I confess I was thinking (as 
you were above) of storage in the sense of 
representation in the program itself - during 
processing.  You are right, of course, that 
storage in document files is in decimal, not 
binary, and apparently omits insignificant trailing zeroes.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] is there an Open office equivalent to Visio 2000

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Oh, weird.  I thought they were keen on attracting developers and making it 
easier for talented people to write things for their platforms?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs
Promises, promises lol
Regards from
Tom :)  


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] is there an Open office equivalent to Visio 
2000
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 16:41


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 Have you tried Draw in LibreOffice 3.5.3? I know it can handle some
Visio Files
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Related:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374854/no-free-visual-studio-for-windows-8-desktop-developers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] is there an Open office equivalent to Visio 2000

2012-05-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 05/26/2012 11:41 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

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On 12-05-25 12:23 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Have you tried Draw in LibreOffice 3.5.3? I know it can handle some

Visio Files

Regards from
Tom :)


Related:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374854/no-free-visual-studio-for-windows-8-desktop-developers

F.
Also, you will have to pay for the options to play a DVD or other 
related media files, according to an article last month.


Win8 should be a dead-on-arrival OS.  You have to pay for most of the 
things you normally get for free with WinXP/Vista/Win7.


I really do not want my desktop to look like a tablet, the way MS 
wants.  They want people to be able to use the exactly same desktop 
look/feel for both their tablet, laptop, and desktop.  They make it hard 
to figure out how to use it, and it looks worse than Unity does.  There 
is an article comparing Ubuntu 12.04/Unity and Win8.


So you really do not want to buy into Win8.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:02 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
  

drew jensen wrote:
8...


Hi Tom

Really - you seem to know a lot, are you writing a manual?

@Girvin - there is no place that I've seen the report builder be that
slow and not have an installation problem - not saying it is impossible
but sounds really odd. 1500 records in a tabular report, 49 seconds is a
long time for that actually. There is one exception to that, graphics -
is your report including graphics stored in data fields?

On the other hand Calc, as has been pointed out, might be your preferred
path.

Best,

//drew

  
  

8...

Hello Drew,
I understand what you are saying, but I installed the LO 3.5.2 binary 
(RPM) packages from the LO website.  I repackaged them for Slackware, 
but that does not change the 1s and 0s, just unpacks the RPMs and 
re-packages the files into a Slackware package for installation.  
Therefore, if there is an installation problem, it seems to be in the LO 
packages.  Note that I am using the Report Builder bundled into LO, not 
the version from the extensions website.  I do believe the newest is 
1.2.1 rev 2, and the one in LO is still 1.0-something.  I have not tried 
to replace the bundled version with the 1.2 version.


I could live with 49 _seconds_.  However, it is taking 49 _minutes_ 
for my report.  My database is nothing special, just text and integer 
values.  Nine elements plus the key per record.  No graphics.  So, yes, 
this problem does sound unusual.  However, I have not been able to pin 
down the problem yet.  In the meantime, I am looking into using Calc to 
print my data.  It looks good and will do until I can get RB working.


BTW: The report is a simple text page header, Detail, and page footer, 
no graphics there either.  I do have the date and time fields in the 
header, but that shouldn't bring it down.  Actually, I do have some 
separator lines inserted at the bottom of the header and the bottom of 
each Detail line.  Page number at the bottom of the footer.  That's it.

Thanks for the help.


Hi Girvin

Sounds like it aught to run lickity-split...hmm

Anyway - looks like you are off to use Cacl.

You might want to do this.

When you open the data window under Calc, instead of copy/paste from the
data grid - grad, drag and drop the actual query name from the left side
of the data window. This will create a named range, you can set options
on the range to _not_ save the data in the spreadsheet, jut the
connection information...then when you open the spreadsheet again it
will re-run the query and update the data anew..

Best wishes,

//drew
  

Drew,
Yes!  Your procedure worked fine!  Thanks much.  It will make using Calc 
to produce my reports a lot more error free.  I have not tested the 
dynamic importation of the data yet, but even if it doesn't work, which 
I am sure it will, this procedure is much better than my copy-paste 
procedure.  Another benefit of using Calc will be to save paper.  
Whereas the ORB output used 94+ pages, the Calc output, being more 
compressed, even with the separation grid, produces about half that 
number - 47 pages.


Your suggestion of an installation problem causing ORB to fail for me 
got me thinking and I realized I did modify one aspect of the LO 
distribution package.  I moved the 2 executable files in /usr/bin to 
/opt/bin.  Just in case ORB was relying on these files being in 
/usr/bin, the first thing I did today was to restore those 2 files in 
/usr/bin and try ORB again.  No joy.  It is now taking 66 minutes.  
However, since my last tests, I entered more data and now my database is 
1800+ records.  So that accounts for the increase in time.  Note that it 
does not take anywhere near this amount of time to import the data into 
Calc.  Calc does it in a few seconds, not tens of minutes.


Thanks very much for your help.
Girvin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr

Fernand,
I am assuming you are talking about the Data tab for the report where 
there are Content Type and Content option lists.  I tried it both 
ways with the same results.  Originally, I was using the SQL command(s) 
the wizard created when I first created the report.  Those SQL commands 
accessed the data directly without using a query.  I then changed it to 
use the Query I created, so I could calculate the total cost based on 
the quantity and unit cost data and pass it to the report for printing.  
Both versions of the report performed about the same.


I am using the same query for my Calc version of the report and it 
imports the data in a few seconds.  So, I don't think that is the 
bottleneck.

Thanks for your help.
Girvin



Fernand Vanrie wrote:

 Girvin ,

You must know that ORB , when openning a report, first  execute the 
SQL commands saved with the report, this can surrly takes some time, 
then you can give a new 'actual)set off SQL commands. Therefore we 
never safe the reports with real SQL commands, we just make a dummy 
command and so the reports are comming up match quicker.

Hope its helps

Fernand



Andreas Säger wrote:
With LibO 3.5 under Linux I can use any recent Java version without 
any issues. I tested 1.6.22, 1.6.31 and 1.7. Any of these simply 
work with my Java databases.
I avoid the report builder like illness. If you feel the need to 
dance with this software diva then you should do all calculations, 
filtering, grouping and sorting in SQL leaving the only good looking 
stuff up to the beast.




Andreas,
Thanks for your reply.  Report Builder (RB) has always been a beast 
to me too, but it is the only option I know of for printing my 
database data in a human readable form.  So, I have to live with it, 
at least until I find something better.  Before Base, I was using 
Rekall, which had some nice features.  But that Open Source version 
is no longer supported, so that option is dead.
I am using a SQL query to sort and provide all the data to Report 
Builder.  I am not using any RB grouping or filtering either.  It is 
just a flat data set for RB to pretty up for printing.  That is why 
I don't see why it is so slow.  All the real time consumers, such as 
sorting, are being done by MySQL.  Also, after writer displays my 
first page or two, it goes out to lunch again, as if it is 
recalculating everything all over again.  That is frustrating, since 
it locks up and I have to wait several more minutes for another 
couple-second window where I can scroll or kill it before it goes off 
again.
I will certainly take your experience to heart and your 
recommendation to update my Java.

Thanks again.
Girvin







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Andreas Säger wrote:

8...


-- When you drag the query icon from the left pane of the data source 
window onto a Calc cell you will get a semi-automatic link. Call 
menu:DataRefresh to refresh the link.
-- When you drag selected row selectors you get a copy of selected 
rows. The top-left corner of a row set selects all rows. Same with 
queries, views and tables opened from some database window.
-- Dragging a query icon from the database window creates a 
refreshable link as well but the link breaks when the connection 
closes. Bug or not bug? Who cares?
-- From a form you can copy from the additional grid view. Hit the 
last button on the navigation tool bar.


The linked data range resizes dynamically with every refresh.
Any formula cells directly adjacent to the import range will expand 
and shrink with the resized data range. So the clearly defined row 
sets of a database enable dynamically resizing formula ranges. A 
feature that does not exist with a pure spreadsheet. Tons of silly 
macro code have been written for this.


Its properties are accessible via menu:DataDefine...
Below [More Options] we have 4 widely unknown options:
1) Contains column labels (always true for database imports)
2) Keep formatting: spreadsheet formatting overrides any Base 
formatting. Should be true by default.
3) Insert/remove cells: Do not overwrite/clear cells when the database 
range expands/shrinks. Should be true by default, particularly with 
resizing formula ranges.
4) Don't save imported data. Useful with very large row sets and when 
you want to refresh on open. Prompts for refresh when opening the file.




Andreas,
Wow!  You gave me a lot to think about.  I will have to experiment a bit 
with these suggestions.

Thank you very much for your help.
Girvin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 26.05.2012 00:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote:


As an update to my problem with Report Builder, my 1500+ record database
takes 94 pages of a Report Builder / Writer document. I put on my
patience hat and timed how long it takes to format the report, ready for
printing. As a baseline, it takes about 49 minutes to create the
original document. I cleared my preferences and re-entered them, using
mostly defaults and timed it again: 49 minutes. So it is not preference
corruption from previous versions. I then updated my java to 1.6u30 and
timed it again: 49 minutes. So, it doesn't look like Java is the
problem. I then went back to my original use of SQL from when I created
the report with the wizard, rather than using a query for the data and
timed it: 49 minutes! No matter what I do, it takes about the same
excruciatingly long time to build my report. What is really frustrating
is that there is no status popup to inform me of what it is doing. It
just goes out to lunch. Actually, it seems to initially create 128 pages
with header and footer, but no data, at the end of the first sleep.
When the page status at the bottom of the writer window drops to 94
pages, I know it is done. Every so many pages, it does come back alive
for a second or two and then goes out to lunch again for several
minutes. Each time it returns, a few more pages are populated with data.
Girvin




Every time when there is a performance problem with this office suite, 
Tom blames Java. It has to be Java just because Java is evil.


Now this may be related to the one and only Java related performance 
problem and Tom does not even notice.


You are running the combination of Linux, Base plus JDBC?



Andreas,
Yes!  
Plus the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver class and the MySQL (JDBC) connection 
type option.
And I am using the MySQL-connector-java-5.0.7-bin.jar in the class 
path and the MySQL 5.0.67 server.

Sun (Oracle) Java version 1.6.0_30
All test okay, of course.
Thanks.
Girvin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread J.A. de Vries
On 2012-05-26 11:59, Guy Voets wrote:
 Hello,
 
 For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
 Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
 He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
 use it in LO on my Mac.
 I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
 'open'...
 

Hi Guy,

I use lots of OpenType Fonts (.otf files)) in LibreOffice on my Debian
system. Never had any trouble with them at all. I figure you shouldn't
have a problem under Windows either, but I can't verify that for you as
I don't have that OS at hand.

Grx HdV


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If you are re-compiling from Rpms then why not just compile from the original 
source code?  Is Patrick still involved with packaging things for the slackware 
repos?  If so then he might be worth contacting.  Apparently he used to be very 
helpful and approachable.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 20:43



drew jensen wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:02 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
   
 drew jensen wrote:
 8...
     
 Hi Tom
 
 Really - you seem to know a lot, are you writing a manual?
 
 @Girvin - there is no place that I've seen the report builder be that
 slow and not have an installation problem - not saying it is impossible
 but sounds really odd. 1500 records in a tabular report, 49 seconds is a
 long time for that actually. There is one exception to that, graphics -
 is your report including graphics stored in data fields?
 
 On the other hand Calc, as has been pointed out, might be your preferred
 path.
 
 Best,
 
 //drew
 
         
 8...
 
 Hello Drew,
 I understand what you are saying, but I installed the LO 3.5.2 binary (RPM) 
 packages from the LO website.  I repackaged them for Slackware, but that 
 does not change the 1s and 0s, just unpacks the RPMs and re-packages the 
 files into a Slackware package for installation.  Therefore, if there is an 
 installation problem, it seems to be in the LO packages.  Note that I am 
 using the Report Builder bundled into LO, not the version from the 
 extensions website.  I do believe the newest is 1.2.1 rev 2, and the one in 
 LO is still 1.0-something.  I have not tried to replace the bundled version 
 with the 1.2 version.
 
 I could live with 49 _seconds_.  However, it is taking 49 _minutes_ for my 
 report.  My database is nothing special, just text and integer values.  Nine 
 elements plus the key per record.  No graphics.  So, yes, this problem does 
 sound unusual.  However, I have not been able to pin down the problem yet.  
 In the meantime, I am looking into using Calc to print my data.  It looks 
 good and will do until I can get RB working.
 
 BTW: The report is a simple text page header, Detail, and page footer, no 
 graphics there either.  I do have the date and time fields in the header, 
 but that shouldn't bring it down.  Actually, I do have some separator lines 
 inserted at the bottom of the header and the bottom of each Detail line.  
 Page number at the bottom of the footer.  That's it.
 Thanks for the help.
     
 Hi Girvin
 
 Sounds like it aught to run lickity-split...hmm
 
 Anyway - looks like you are off to use Cacl.
 
 You might want to do this.
 
 When you open the data window under Calc, instead of copy/paste from the
 data grid - grad, drag and drop the actual query name from the left side
 of the data window. This will create a named range, you can set options
 on the range to _not_ save the data in the spreadsheet, jut the
 connection information...then when you open the spreadsheet again it
 will re-run the query and update the data anew..
 
 Best wishes,
 
 //drew
   
Drew,
Yes!  Your procedure worked fine!  Thanks much.  It will make using Calc to 
produce my reports a lot more error free.  I have not tested the dynamic 
importation of the data yet, but even if it doesn't work, which I am sure it 
will, this procedure is much better than my copy-paste procedure.  Another 
benefit of using Calc will be to save paper.  Whereas the ORB output used 94+ 
pages, the Calc output, being more compressed, even with the separation grid, 
produces about half that number - 47 pages.

Your suggestion of an installation problem causing ORB to fail for me got me 
thinking and I realized I did modify one aspect of the LO distribution 
package.  I moved the 2 executable files in /usr/bin to /opt/bin.  Just in 
case ORB was relying on these files being in /usr/bin, the first thing I did 
today was to restore those 2 files in /usr/bin and try ORB again.  No joy.  
It is now taking 66 minutes.  However, since my last tests, I entered more data 
and now my database is 1800+ records.  So that accounts for the increase in 
time.  Note that it does not take anywhere near this amount of time to import 
the data into Calc.  Calc does it in a few seconds, not tens of minutes.

Thanks very much for your help.
Girvin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread J.A. de Vries
 Hi Guy,
 
 I use lots of OpenType Fonts (.otf files)) in LibreOffice on my Debian
 system. Never had any trouble with them at all. I figure you shouldn't
 have a problem under Windows either, but I can't verify that for you as
 I don't have that OS at hand.

I am sorry. You were asking about Mac. Should have read better.

The code to support those typefaces apparently is available in
LibreOffice, so I don't expect any trouble coming from that angle.
However I know just about nothing about Mac, so I don't know if that
platform supports OTF at all. I guess it should, because Adobe has
always targetted that platform as one of their main markets.

Grx HdV



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



drew jensen wrote:

8...

Ah I missed that last bit - yup, those JDBC connections can suck - has
the OP tried ODBC?

//drew

  

Drew,
I am the OP.
No, I have not tried ODBC.  The only configuration documentation I have 
been able to get for MySQL and Base, used JDBC.  At the time, that 
documentation was not in the OOo/LO manuals.  I had to search the web 
for it.
If you have links to LO/OOo configuration documentation for ODBC 
connection to MySQL, I would be willing to try it.

Thanks.
Girvin



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Andreas Säger wrote:
8...


I was thinking of this problem which affects Linux+Java-DB+LibO before 
3.5:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=125253highlight=java+linux 



The problem has gone with LibreOffice 3.5 and it did not exist under 
operating systems other than Linux.




Andreas,
Yes, this is the very problem I had a few months ago with OOo 3.3.0 when 
I updated my 1.6.0_11 JRE to 1.6.0.30 and brought Base to its knees.  
Someone on the OOo users forum told me about this one and suggested I 
back up to 1.6.0_22, the last Java known to work with 3.3.0.  Note that 
the trouble i am having with ORB this time around is not quite the 
same.  I am not having any speed problems with normal Base form data 
entry and searching.  My problem seems to be limited to ORB.  So, 
indeed, it seems to be fixed for Base, but maybe not for ORB.

Thanks for the help.
Girvin


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.05.2012 22:13, Girvin R. Herr wrote:



Andreas,
Yes! Plus the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver class and the MySQL (JDBC)
connection type option.
And I am using the MySQL-connector-java-5.0.7-bin.jar in the class
path and the MySQL 5.0.67 server.
Sun (Oracle) Java version 1.6.0_30
All test okay, of course.
Thanks.
Girvin




Install Java 1.6.0_22 or LibreOffice 3.5.x and things will run with 
normal speed.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Documents do strange things

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is it something to do with Styles and templates?  Chapter 3
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice
Even if not then it still might make formatting much easier
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Documents do strange things
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 25 May, 2012, 22:34

Wanda

On 05/25/2012 04:36 PM, Wanda Moore wrote:
 I write simple documents all the time, but my preferences don't seem to
 matter to LO.  I choose a font, but it changes on me.  I cut or copy and
 paste, and the font changes, even though I copy the exact same thing.
 Times New Roman seems to be the dictator here.  And the size always
 changes.  Lines will suddenly become a 24 pt rather than 11 that I usually
 use.
What paste method are you using?

 The spaces between lines and paragraphs will change, and I can't change
 them back.  Most of the time I can't even use the backspace to move a word
 up to the last line.  And I can't move the first word (indent it).  If I
 click on a word that starts in the wrong place, there are no little
 triangles up in the top ruler, so I can't move the line or paragraph.
 There are other things, too, but if you can help with this, maybe all will
 be fixed.
You may want to modify the styles used and update the default template

 I understand that I may have done something unawares, so I thank you
 beforehand.

 Wanda Moore

Just for reference please advise the LO version and your OS.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 22:25 +0200, J.A. de Vries wrote:
  Hi Guy,
  
  I use lots of OpenType Fonts (.otf files)) in LibreOffice on my Debian
  system. Never had any trouble with them at all. I figure you shouldn't
  have a problem under Windows either, but I can't verify that for you as
  I don't have that OS at hand.
 
 I am sorry. You were asking about Mac. Should have read better.
 
 The code to support those typefaces apparently is available in
 LibreOffice, so I don't expect any trouble coming from that angle.
 However I know just about nothing about Mac, so I don't know if that
 platform supports OTF at all. I guess it should, because Adobe has
 always targetted that platform as one of their main markets.
 
 Grx HdV

 I just entered install opentype fonts mac os x in a web search.
One of the links was from the Adobe website. This website should tell
you what you need to know.

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr

Tom,
No, I did not compile from source.  I just repackaged the RPM binaries 
into the Slackware package format for installation.


I assume you are talking about Patrick Volkerding, the Slackware guru.  
I am not sure what his position is with the Slackware organization.  He 
was very sick a few years ago and he may be cutting back.  Slackware is 
still not bundling *Office in their Linux distros.  It is a long story, 
but I am not using the latest and greatest Slackware, so I am pretty 
much on my own for the latest packages.  That is why I package my own 
Slackware packages.  Besides, it takes hours to compile OOo/LO.  I would 
rather just re-package the binaries.  I might note that I have done so 
for many years, since about OOo 2.4, without any known problems with the 
binaries - until AOO 3.4.0.


As far as compiling from Source goes, I tried that with OOo (AOO?) 3.4.0 
and it was a disaster. Apache has dependency requirements that are, 
again, too new for my older versions.  They even tossed GNU make for yet 
another make: dmake, which looks like another PHD thesis result - not 
a major improvement on GNU make.  For instance, they now require a newer 
glibc than I have.  Since just about every piece of Linux software 
depends on glibc, the core library, I was not willing to bring my system 
down when something went wrong with the new glibc interface, just to be 
able to update AOO.  That was the main reason I switched to LO.  This 
latest version of LO (3.5.3.2) still runs with my older glibc.  IMHO, 
that was a smart move on the Document Foundation's part.  I could go on 
and on, but I digress.


Thanks for the help.
Girvin



Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If you are re-compiling from Rpms then why not just compile from the original source code?  Is Patrick still involved with packaging things for the slackware repos?  If so then he might be worth contacting.  Apparently he used to be very helpful and approachable.  
Regards from

Tom :)


--- On Sat, 26/5/12, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 20:43



drew jensen wrote:
  

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:02 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
   


drew jensen wrote:
8...
 
  

Hi Tom

Really - you seem to know a lot, are you writing a manual?

@Girvin - there is no place that I've seen the report builder be that
slow and not have an installation problem - not saying it is impossible
but sounds really odd. 1500 records in a tabular report, 49 seconds is a
long time for that actually. There is one exception to that, graphics -
is your report including graphics stored in data fields?

On the other hand Calc, as has been pointed out, might be your preferred
path.

Best,

//drew

 


8...

Hello Drew,
I understand what you are saying, but I installed the LO 3.5.2 binary (RPM) 
packages from the LO website.  I repackaged them for Slackware, but that does 
not change the 1s and 0s, just unpacks the RPMs and re-packages the files into 
a Slackware package for installation.  Therefore, if there is an installation 
problem, it seems to be in the LO packages.  Note that I am using the Report 
Builder bundled into LO, not the version from the extensions website.  I do 
believe the newest is 1.2.1 rev 2, and the one in LO is still 1.0-something.  I 
have not tried to replace the bundled version with the 1.2 version.

I could live with 49 _seconds_.  However, it is taking 49 _minutes_ for my 
report.  My database is nothing special, just text and integer values.  Nine elements 
plus the key per record.  No graphics.  So, yes, this problem does sound unusual.  
However, I have not been able to pin down the problem yet.  In the meantime, I am looking 
into using Calc to print my data.  It looks good and will do until I can get RB working.

BTW: The report is a simple text page header, Detail, and page footer, no 
graphics there either.  I do have the date and time fields in the header, but 
that shouldn't bring it down.  Actually, I do have some separator lines 
inserted at the bottom of the header and the bottom of each Detail line.  Page 
number at the bottom of the footer.  That's it.
Thanks for the help.
 
  

Hi Girvin

Sounds like it aught to run lickity-split...hmm

Anyway - looks like you are off to use Cacl.

You might want to do this.

When you open the data window under Calc, instead of copy/paste from the
data grid - grad, drag and drop the actual query name from the left side
of the data window. This will create a named range, you can set options
on the range to _not_ save the data in the spreadsheet, jut the
connection information...then when you open the spreadsheet again it
will re-run the query and update the data anew..

Best wishes,

//drew
   


Drew,
Yes!  Your procedure worked fine!  Thanks much.  It will make using Calc to 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 26.05.2012 22:13, Girvin R. Herr wrote:



Andreas,
Yes! Plus the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver class and the MySQL (JDBC)
connection type option.
And I am using the MySQL-connector-java-5.0.7-bin.jar in the class
path and the MySQL 5.0.67 server.
Sun (Oracle) Java version 1.6.0_30
All test okay, of course.
Thanks.
Girvin




Install Java 1.6.0_22 or LibreOffice 3.5.x and things will run with 
normal speed.




Andreas,
I hate to tell you this, but I am already using LibreOffice 3.5.3.2.  Or 
did you mean and, not or?
Please don't make me go back to Oracle and try to open an account on 
their website just to download an archived Java version.  I already 
tried that and when I goofed, thinking I entered 8 chars for the 
password and only entered 7, a bug in their system would not allow me to 
change my goof.  Arrgh!

Thanks.
Girvin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The java version you have should be ok.  We used to have a lot of trouble with 
the newer versions of java but with the 3.5.x branch that seemed to get sorted 
out.  So, it is better to try to stick with the newer versions of java.  

Of course we will soon probably have to upgrade or patch due to some new and 
'unforeseen' security flaw in java.  Some other programs almost never have 
security issues at all and only upgrade to add new features but with java it's 
just to fix whatever they broke or didn't fix last time.  
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 22:34



Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 26.05.2012 22:13, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 
 Andreas,
 Yes! Plus the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver class and the MySQL (JDBC)
 connection type option.
 And I am using the MySQL-connector-java-5.0.7-bin.jar in the class
 path and the MySQL 5.0.67 server.
 Sun (Oracle) Java version 1.6.0_30
 All test okay, of course.
 Thanks.
 Girvin
 
 
 
 Install Java 1.6.0_22 or LibreOffice 3.5.x and things will run with normal 
 speed.
 
 
Andreas,
I hate to tell you this, but I am already using LibreOffice 3.5.3.2.  Or did 
you mean and, not or?
Please don't make me go back to Oracle and try to open an account on their 
website just to download an archived Java version.  I already tried that and 
when I goofed, thinking I entered 8 chars for the password and only entered 7, 
a bug in their system would not allow me to change my goof.  Arrgh!
Thanks.
Girvin


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp
On 05/25/2012 07:16 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 I have been attempting to send this posting for a while, and have only
 recently noticed that the list does not accept attachments.  This has
 (apparently) caused it to be silently rejected.  I have appended what 
 had been attached to the end of this posting.
 
 Sorry for the delay.
 
 On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:40 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 ... the database doesn't look like what I had expected it to: sqlite
 databases contain within themselves the names and data types of all
 the entries, but when libreOffice opens the database, there is no such
 data visible.  Am I missing something.  A dump of the database using 
 $ sqlite3 archive.sdb .dump looks fine.  Is this what I should expect,
 or is something wrong, or am I missing something? On Tue, 2012-05-22
 
 On Tue, 22 May 2012 at 00:43 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 21.05.2012 23:40, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 
 blah
 
 
 Ask your question on a SQLite forum with some _technical_ information 
 about your operating system, SQLite version of the creating application, 
 driver version, configuration file, connection URL of the client (Base 
 menu:EditDatabaseProperties).
 
 Wow!  This is enough to singe my beard.  Nevertheless I am grateful for
 all replies, even beard singeing ones.
 
 I fear that I put in too much technical detail, rather than too little.
 As you see, I am a complete newbie to LibreOffice base (oobase), and am
 only trying to find out whether I have succeeded in getting oobase to
 open my database properly.  I don't think a posting to an sqlite forum
 would be useful, since this is really a question about oobase.  
 
 If oobase has connected properly to the database, it is useless for my 
 purpose and I will give up on it and do what needs done with a bunch of 
 shell scripts. If oobase has not opened the database properly, I will 
 persevere.
 
 Here is the technical info that Mr. Säger desires:
 
 All my systems run Fedora-16.  The database was generated on an i686
 system.  LibreOffice runs on an x86_64 system.  The database is
 contained in a file named wview-archive.sdb generated on the i686 
 system and copied to the x86_64 system.
 
 The database was generated by wview, which can be downloaded at
 http://www.wviewweather.com/
 My running version of wview is accessible (in case you want to know
 the weather here) at:
 http://oaklandweather.no-ip.org/index.html/
 The archive file is not visible from the web, but extracts from it 
 are at:
 http://oaklandweather.no-ip.org/index.html/Archive
 The version of sqlite is included in 
 sqlite-devel-3.7.7.1-1.fc16rpm
 The library is:
 /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
 The drivers are in:
 unixODBC-2.2.14-13.fc15.x86_64

You might want to use a GUI configure tool. On debian it is unixodbc-bin
- Graphical tools for ODBC management and browsing

$ ODBConfig

Makes it much easier to configure.

On Fedora I think it might be unixODBC-gui-qt
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/list/?searchwords=*odbc*

 and as specified in its initialization file (which follows)
 $ cat ~/.odbc
 [ODBC Data Sources]
 mysqlitedb=SQLite
 
 [mysqlitedb]
 Driver=/usr/lib64/libsqlite3odbc.so
 Description=My SQLite test database
   Database=/home/jonrysh/src/wview/archive/nullWindSpeed/wview-archive.sdb
 # optional lock timeout in milliseconds
 Timeout=2000

My initial tests (successful as I can see all the date in the tables)
used the places.sqlite files for Firefox  SeaMonkey. (They are easy to
look at with an sqlite viewer to verify). I also have the old microsoft
Nwind.mdb as well.

Mine is installed on Ubuntu/Debian - (I'd need to fire up Fedora in a VM
to test that distro). Here is my .odbc.ini file (configured with OBDConfig):

$ cat /home/gl/.odbc.ini
[SeaMonkeyPlaces.sqlite]
Description = SQLite3
Driver = SQLite3
Database = /home/gl/.mozilla/seamonkey/snipped.default/places.sqlite
Timeout = 10
StepAPI = No
ShortNames = No
NoCreat = No
SyncPragma = NORMAL
LoadExt =

[NWTest]
Description = mdbtools
Driver  = mdbtools
Database= /home/gl/Documents/MyDocuments/Nwind.mdb

[PlacesFirefox]
Description = SQLite3
Driver  = SQLite3
Database= /home/gl/.mozilla/firefox/snipped.default/places.sqlite
Timeout = 10
StepAPI = No
ShortNames  = No
NoCreat = No
SyncPragma  = NORMAL
LoadExt =

Note the difference in the SQLite drivers (I simply use use SQLite3).

I'll give your database a try this weekend  also try to find my
notes/links on how I got mine working (should be a post in this list IIRC).

 The start of a dump of the database is appended to this message. 
 I.e. the output of
 $ sqlite3 archive.sdb .dump
 
 If anyone else wants to know more about my struggles with oobase and 
 sqlite, email me or post to the list.
 
 All the best - jon



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp
On 05/26/2012 02:56 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Mine is installed on Ubuntu/Debian - (I'd need to fire up Fedora in a VM
 to test that distro). Here is my .odbc.ini file (configured with OBDConfig):
 
 $ cat /home/gl/.odbc.ini
 [SeaMonkeyPlaces.sqlite]
 Description = SQLite3
 Driver = SQLite3
 Database = /home/gl/.mozilla/seamonkey/snipped.default/places.sqlite
 Timeout   = 10
 StepAPI   = No
 ShortNames = No
 NoCreat   = No
 SyncPragma = NORMAL
 LoadExt   =
 
 [NWTest]
 Description = mdbtools
 Driver= mdbtools
 Database= /home/gl/Documents/MyDocuments/Nwind.mdb
 
 [PlacesFirefox]
 Description   = SQLite3
 Driver= SQLite3
 Database  = /home/gl/.mozilla/firefox/snipped.default/places.sqlite
 Timeout   = 10
 StepAPI   = No
 ShortNames= No
 NoCreat   = No
 SyncPragma= NORMAL
 LoadExt   =
 
 Note the difference in the SQLite drivers (I simply use use SQLite3).
 
 I'll give your database a try this weekend  also try to find my
 notes/links on how I got mine working (should be a post in this list IIRC).

Found the links:
http://kiwinc.itgo.com/ian/TechBlog.html#OpenOffice_SQLlite
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org#ODBC-setup_of_new_database
and
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MySQL/Databases_manipulation

HTH




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder

2012-05-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr

Tom,
Well, yes.  But I remember the wise words of Adam Osborne, the 
entrepreneur who made the Osborne computer back in the 80s: He, who 
lives on the cutting edge of technology, gets sliced to bits!

I also am a firm believer in if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Then there is Never use a software program that has a version ending in 
zero!  That one has bitten me many times, such as OpenOffice 3.3.0 - 
very buggy.  Now here we are with LO 3.5.3.2 (no zero) and it seems to 
work fine, other than the Oracle Report Builder extension, which is 
version 1.2.0 (zero again).


Usually, the only reason I update something is that something else 
requires the update and that something else has a compelling reason to 
need it.  Or, as you say, it is a security bug fix.

Take care.
Girvin



Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The java version you have should be ok.  We used to have a lot of trouble with the newer versions of java but with the 3.5.x branch that seemed to get sorted out.  So, it is better to try to stick with the newer versions of java.  

Of course we will soon probably have to upgrade or patch due to some new and 'unforeseen' security flaw in java.  Some other programs almost never have security issues at all and only upgrade to add new features but with java it's just to fix whatever they broke or didn't fix last time.  
Regards from

Tom :)



--- On Sat, 26/5/12, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Extremely Slow Base Report Builder
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 22:34



Andreas Säger wrote:
  

Am 26.05.2012 22:13, Girvin R. Herr wrote:


Andreas,
Yes! Plus the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver class and the MySQL (JDBC)
connection type option.
And I am using the MySQL-connector-java-5.0.7-bin.jar in the class
path and the MySQL 5.0.67 server.
Sun (Oracle) Java version 1.6.0_30
All test okay, of course.
Thanks.
Girvin


  

Install Java 1.6.0_22 or LibreOffice 3.5.x and things will run with normal 
speed.




Andreas,
I hate to tell you this, but I am already using LibreOffice 3.5.3.2.  Or did you mean 
and, not or?
Please don't make me go back to Oracle and try to open an account on their 
website just to download an archived Java version.  I already tried that and 
when I goofed, thinking I entered 8 chars for the password and only entered 7, 
a bug in their system would not allow me to change my goof.  Arrgh!
Thanks.
Girvin


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Documents do strange things

2012-05-26 Thread Tinkerer
Wanda you can set the default fonts for LO documents using
TOOLSOPTIONSLibreOffice WriterBasic Fonts (Western). You can select
any installed Western font as the default font. 
Jay Lozier wrote
 
 On 05/25/2012 05:55 PM, Wanda Moore wrote:
 I use the right click menu or edit in the toolbar.  I've never used
 styles
 or templates, as I don't really understand them, and just want to be able
 to take notes and write things down for myself and my kids.  (I
 homeschool,
 so I'm always writing something and printing them out.)

 I have LO 3.4.4 and Mac OS X  10.6.8Hope this helps.
 Wanda you can set the default fonts for LO documents using
 TOOLSOPTIONSLibreOffice WriterBasic Fonts (Western). You can select
 any installed Western font as the default font.
 
 If you are pasting from the another document which has its own font,
 etc. try using EDITPASTE SPECIAL and select unformatted text. LO will
 use the document default for the text formatting. When you use the
 normal PASTE LO assumes the formatting of the text to be pasted should
 override the document defaults.
 
 We like to know version and OS for reference and in case the issue is
 specific to a version or OS; normally the issues are not.
 Wanda

 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jay Lozier lt;jslozier@gt; wrote:

 Wanda

 On 05/25/2012 04:36 PM, Wanda Moore wrote:
 I write simple documents all the time, but my preferences don't seem to
 matter to LO.  I choose a font, but it changes on me.  I cut or copy
 and
 paste, and the font changes, even though I copy the exact same thing.
 Times New Roman seems to be the dictator here.  And the size always
 changes.  Lines will suddenly become a 24 pt rather than 11 that I
 usually
 use.
 What paste method are you using?
 The spaces between lines and paragraphs will change, and I can't change
 them back.  Most of the time I can't even use the backspace to move a
 word
 up to the last line.  And I can't move the first word (indent it).  If
 I
 click on a word that starts in the wrong place, there are no little
 triangles up in the top ruler, so I can't move the line or paragraph.
 There are other things, too, but if you can help with this, maybe all
 will
 be fixed.
 You may want to modify the styles used and update the default template
 I understand that I may have done something unawares, so I thank you
 beforehand.

 Wanda Moore

 Just for reference please advise the LO version and your OS.

 --
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 jslozier@


Wanda you can set the default fonts for LO documents using
 TOOLSOPTIONSLibreOffice WriterBasic Fonts (Western). You can select
 any installed Western font as the default font. 

 
 As you are using a Mac system this is incorrect.
 You need Libre Office Preferences Writer
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Documents do strange things

2012-05-26 Thread Tinkerer
Something went wrong there.

I should have said:
There is no Tools Options for LO in the Mac system.
To make the correction you need: Libre Office Preferences Writer etc.

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] modifying existing labels/cards

2012-05-26 Thread Joep L. Blom

On 26-05-12 05:05, Don Myers wrote:

Hi Joep,

The standard label formats included with LibreOffice and OpenOffice are
the same type as Microsoft uses with fixed blocks. These tend to not to
be accurate if the card/label is relatively full as you get toward the
bottom of the page, even in Microsoft. There are also table style
templates available (or at least used to be available) as an extension
for OpenOffice. I have found them very easy to adjust, and they print
perfectly for both business cards and labels for me. They are available at:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm or probably as
an extension for OpenOffice.

Don

Don,
Thanks for the information. I'll look into it. However, I think it's an 
omission - or an oversight - of the developers to not give the 
opportunity to adjust the dimensions of a once made buseness-card template.

Joep



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp
On 05/26/2012 03:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 I'll give your database a try this weekend  also try to find my
...

SQlite database created by:
1. Opening the archive .txt file in Calc  then saving as a .csv. Note:
I modified the first header slightly from 'Timestamp' to 'Date Time' so
that I'd have headers for both columns.

2. Open SQLite Manger  imported the .csv. Saved as an SQLite file.

3. Registered the new SQLite3 file using ODBConfig.

4. Opened LO 3.5 Base (Database from the menu), selected 'Connect to an
existing database', choose ODBC, and select Weather2. Table shows all
data from the archive file.

Files are here if anyone cares to view/use.

http://www.2shared.com/file/k8C-0SXm/Weather.html
(Weather.odb)
http://www.2shared.com/file/Fiddx6IL/weatherNoOp.html
(SQLite file)
http://www.2shared.com/file/1pj44lW9/weather.html
weather.csv
http://www.2shared.com/file/T9pvKz3y/weather.html
weather.ods



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[libreoffice-users] Re: modifying existing labels/cards

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp
On 05/25/2012 03:48 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 I have a simple question:
 I have a sheet with business cards (made with the correct template, 
 etc.) but as I have a different printer I want to adjust the dimensions 
 as to fit them perfectly. How is that done?
 I can not find a modify button anywhere and page formatting is not the 
 correct way (it completely changes all dimensions).
 I'm still working with 3.4 (but will only change to 3.5 when it is 
 reasonably bug-free.
 Thanks in advance,
 Joep
 

The Business card  label templates use frames (instead of a table). If
you were lucky you rememeberd to select 'syncronize' when you created it
so that you can easily sync the rest of the cards/label. Anyway, to
modify, I highly recommend that you keep a backup of your original, and
then: 'View|Text boundries'. You'll then be able to see the frame
outlines. Right-click on the frame boarder and select 'Frame|Options'
untick the Protect items 'Position' and 'Size'. You can then modify the
frame as you wish by using the 'Type' tab, or exiting the Frame function
and then move/resize the frame with the mouse. When finished, don't
forget to go back and retick the Protect items 'Position' and 'Size' so
that you lock the frames back down.

However, IMO it's easier just to create a new one, adjust the sizes that
you need, and then copy the data from the first frame over to the new one.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Open Type fonts

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp
On 05/26/2012 02:59 AM, Guy Voets wrote:
 Hello,
 
 For a magazine, the editor uses an Open Type font from Adobe.
 Are there any problems using such a font in LO on my Mac?
 He has a license for the font for me, but I first want to make sure I can
 use it in LO on my Mac.
 I ask this beacuse I have some doubts when MS and Adobe call something
 'open'...
 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35538
[Writer does not remember formatting (font selection) with complex font
families]

More:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__all__product=LibreOfficecontent=OpenType

Recommend that you test at least one before you lay out too much money.
Note: you can always convert to ttf - but test to ensure you do not have
additional litgature issues.



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