RE: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Andreas, No crash observed. Guess you'll stay the course a while longer... Results as opened in LO 3.6.0.2, on Windows 7, 64-bit. Days column were not rendered on the MediaFire file preview in IE9 or FF 14.0.1 DOB Years Months Days 01/02/1994 18 6 24 01/03/2003 9 6 23 01/04/2002 10 6 22 01/07/2001 11 6 19 01/09/1977 35 6 17 01/13/1997 15 6 13 01/13/2004 8 6 13 01/20/1976 36 6 6 01/21/1983 29 6 5 01/23/1962 50 6 3 Stuart From: Andreas Säger [mailto:ville...@t-online.de] Sent: Wed 7/25/2012 11:26 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta? Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. Thanks, A.S. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bullets / Numbering in LO --- SOLVED!
All, I wish to say a sincere thank you to all who contributed suggestions to solving my dilemma. The below-quoted suggestion of Miroslaw Zalewski is the one that turned the trick for me. I went through all the others; some things were already as suggested, but when I implemented this one, the annoying problem 'went away'... Thank you all; I really feel privileged to be a part of the body of open source software users. George On 07/25/2012 08:45 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Is Default style associated with some numbering style? Please see: 1. Format → Styles and Formatting 2. in new window find Default at top of list and right-click → Modify 3. In new window check, in Outline Numbering, if Numbering style is set to None. If not, change it and click OK. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bullets / Numbering in LO
Mirosław, thank you, your firs sited set of instructions sounds very promising I'll let you know of any success. --- Could not make myself wait until tomorrow - the suggestion of Tools | Auto Correct Options, etc., was just what was called for. Thank you so much, all who contributed. Thankfully, my blood pressure has subsided I'm going to soon have a 'digital copy' of the latest edition of the Constitution By-Laws of the Grand Lodge, Independent Order of Odd Fellows, Commonwealth of Massachusetts. It's sort of one of the Rule Books that constituent Lodges of the Odd Fellow Fraternal Order must abide by - in this case, here in Massachusetts. As Secretary of my Lodge, I'm often the first person a member of my Lodge goes to to get a clearer idea of procedures protocol, etc... Thank you again. George On 07/25/2012 08:45 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Is Default style associated with some numbering style? Please see: 1. Format → Styles and Formatting 2. in new window find Default at top of list and right-click → Modify 3. In new window check, in Outline Numbering, if Numbering style is set to None. If not, change it and click OK. You said something about pasting data from another document. You may try Edit → Paste Special (or Shift+Ctrl+V) and select Unformatted text. This should ensure that no information about numbering is copied. Also, you might have turned on line numbering in document (this is something other than outline numbering). See Tools → Line numbering. If none of this helps, can you post your document somewhere on the web, so we can look at it (this list does not allow attachments)? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Le 26/07/2012 06:26, Andreas Säger a écrit : Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. No crash for me with LO 3.6.1.0+ (Build ID: 38fd6c8). Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
On 25-07-12 20:49, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/25 anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com: I resent the US way of ISO 8601. We Dutch and other Europeans use the more logical sequence of day-month-year instead of the illogical year-month-day.(most important first, least important last: very often the year can be missed). Joep Exactly what is strange with ISO 8601? Jonny, As I said before it's illogic. In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. In the over 2000 years date notation systems are used all logical and illogical combinations have been used. The reason I find that the current European (Dutch, Swedish) notation is more logical than the ISO 8601 is that in many cases the year notation is omitted which is in the European notation self-explaining but in the ISO 8601 less intuitive. However, it's my personal feeling and don't forget: international rules aren't always right! :) Joep -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
AFAIK, ISO 8601 is the Swedish notation. And in order of textual sorting, it is the far most logic notification. But I agree that mdy is far less logic than dmy or ymd. Met vriendelijke groeten, Cordialement, Regards, *DRIES FEYS* *CORPORATE SERVICES* • *Senior Software Engineer* http://www.tvh.com On 26 July 2012 12:34, Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl wrote: On 25-07-12 20:49, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/25 anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com: I resent the US way of ISO 8601. We Dutch and other Europeans use the more logical sequence of day-month-year instead of the illogical year-month-day.(most important first, least important last: very often the year can be missed). Joep Exactly what is strange with ISO 8601? Jonny, As I said before it's illogic. In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. In the over 2000 years date notation systems are used all logical and illogical combinations have been used. The reason I find that the current European (Dutch, Swedish) notation is more logical than the ISO 8601 is that in many cases the year notation is omitted which is in the European notation self-explaining but in the ISO 8601 less intuitive. However, it's my personal feeling and don't forget: international rules aren't always right! :) Joep -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- DISCLAIMER http://www.tvh.com/newen2/emaildisclaimer/default.html This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
On 07/26/2012 12:34 PM, Joep L. Blom wrote: Jonny, As I said before it's illogic. In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. In the over 2000 years date notation systems are used all logical and illogical combinations have been used. The reason I find that the current European (Dutch, Swedish) notation is more logical than the ISO 8601 is that in many cases the year notation is omitted which is in the European notation self-explaining but in the ISO 8601 less intuitive. However, it's my personal feeling and don't forget: international rules aren't always right! :) Joep As far as I understand the International Standard for _ALL_ forms of measurement is - Left to right, Highest to lowest. So this makes a Date/Time (which is a form of measurement) Year - Month - Day - Hour - Min - Sec. All other measurements do it this way... $ - c; lb - oz; gal - pint; etc and all Metric Systems as well G - M - K - (Basic unit) - m - etc etc. (For clarity and ease of reading I always use the 3-Letter month abbreviation. So today is 2012 Jul 26!! Ian W Pretoria, South Africa. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
On 26 July 2012 05:34, Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl wrote: As I said before it's illogic. In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. But that isn't how numbering works! Ten is represented as 10, not 01; one hundred is 100, not 001. Moreover, placing ISO-formatted dates in alphanumeric order will produce chronological order. It is *very* logical. -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
At 12:34 26/07/2012 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. In the over 2000 years date notation systems are used ... If you think it's logical to have the least significant part first, shouldn't that be not 2000 years but 0002 years? ;^) Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Hi Andreas, Andreas Säger schrieb: Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. I can open the file in LO 3.5.3.2 I cannot open the file in LO 3.6.0beta1. No crash but a read error. I'm on WinXP. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
Hmmm... Year/Month/Day Drop the year for a moment and you have Month/Day: 7/26 Sounds almost... American style. ;-) On 7/26/2012 4:05 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: (For clarity and ease of reading I always use the 3-Letter month abbreviation. So today is 2012 Jul 26!! Ian W Pretoria, South Africa. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ISO
omega The Omega sector America's Last Line of Defense *I am glad I live in Arizona we do not change the clocks back and forth as to this day light savings crap does not save jack-she-it ! ! You should get on your leaders to quit doing this crap of moving the clock 2 times a year * On 07/25/2012 06:03 PM, anne-ology wrote: you're so cute ... after all, those folks north of the northern snow belt - and south of the southern - don't seem to worry about the long days, long nights; they still stick to their schedule ;-) BTW - for those who are too young to remember pre-computing days, the month would either be spelled out, or abbreviated; still the most sensible system to my way of thinking ;-) Only with these computers, did some of these scientists decide they should add the hour, minute, second to the time format ... GMT was the standard for centuries - Big Ben's still ticking away, isn't it? On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 07/25/2012 03:43 PM, anne-ology wrote: Well, the same thing that's wrong with changing the clocks ... ... etc. etc. etc. ... ... ... /snip/ This ISO is as strange as changing the time twice/year /snip You're right! We should just have daylight saving time all year long. Or if we want to change the clock twice a year, we should have DST in the winter and Double DST in the summer! --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] I have a question on Libre - office Calc !
omega The Omega sector America's Last Line of Defense *How do I use data base RA1 to check RE1 for duplicates ? * * * On 07/25/2012 06:54 PM, Dan wrote: Could you create and send me a presentation to my email address? 3-5 slides may be sufficient. I need to see what you are doing and perhaps how you are doing it. --Dan anne-ology wrote: That's great ... but it doesn't work that way for me. Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' re-chose the font color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text color do not remain. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask So you're able to change the text on all the slides? What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing the font of the text on all the slides? You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task Pane. Please give us some details. I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which have a title box at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for years. --Dan anne-ology wrote: So you're able to change the text on all the slides?; then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I guess ;-) So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting your responses now. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually just a beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted. The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the same time, so you only have to make the change once. Of course if you add more slides you need to do it again for the new slides. No, it's not ideal and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe. Good idea! On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote: Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide ;-) It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page when starting a new file ... [would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if so, I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.] I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if the font color will hold, but it won't ;-) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were using Writer. After re-reading your original post and some of the other responses I think I now understand what you really want. I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you described, the best I could come up with is to go to the outline tab, select all the text, then change the font. That way, all of your slides will have the same font for that one file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Am 26.07.2012 14:06, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andreas, Andreas Säger schrieb: Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. I can open the file in LO 3.5.3.2 I cannot open the file in LO 3.6.0beta1. No crash but a read error. I'm on WinXP. Kind regards Regina Thank you, Regina. Something is wrong with that file in the context of 3.6beta1. https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52537 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
On 07/26/2012 08:06 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andreas, Andreas Säger schrieb: Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. I can open the file in LO 3.5.3.2 I cannot open the file in LO 3.6.0beta1. No crash but a read error. I'm on WinXP. Kind regards Regina Opened correctly in 3.5.5.3/Ubuntu 12.04 -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Am 26.07.2012 08:02, V Stuart Foote wrote: Andreas, No crash observed. Guess you'll stay the course a while longer... Results as opened in LO 3.6.0.2, on Windows 7, 64-bit. Days column were not rendered on the MediaFire file preview in IE9 or FF 14.0.1 DOB Years Months Days 01/02/1994 18 6 24 01/03/2003 9 6 23 01/04/2002 10 6 22 01/07/2001 11 6 19 01/09/1977 35 6 17 01/13/1997 15 6 13 01/13/2004 8 6 13 01/20/1976 36 6 6 01/21/1983 29 6 5 01/23/1962 50 6 3 Stuart Thank you, Stuart. This may indicate that the problem had been resolved in Beta2 but I can not find the bug which would have been fixed. May be it is related to the Linux build. I filed a bug report anyway. https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52537 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Andreas Säger wrote: Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. Thanks, A.S. I have LO 3.6.0.2 (Build ID: 815c576) running on Ubuntu 64 bit. The spreadsheet opens normally. The problem may have been fixed, on the Debian version at least. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Does this file crash with the latest 3.6 beta?
Dan wrote: Andreas Säger wrote: Hi, The simple spreadsheet document http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1s1wui59p3p2oxz crashes with LO-Dev Beta 1 (Build ID: 1f1cdd8). I know there is a more recent build of 3.6 but 3.5 will be my last version of LibreOffice. If someone confirms the crash with a more recent build, that would be a show stopper. Thanks, A.S. I have LO 3.6.0.2 (Build ID: 815c576) running on Ubuntu 64 bit. The spreadsheet opens normally. The problem may have been fixed, on the Debian version at least. --Dan Addendum: It also opens using AOO 3.4.0. LO 3.4.6, and LO 3.5.5.3. All of these are Debian from either the AOO or LO websites. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
yes, Andrew, it works that way ... but I don't want to complete the PP then select the font-color; I want to see each slide finished before going on to the next one. With each font, the placement size changes, therefore by waiting until after the PP is completed before choosing the font would mean I'd have to re-do each slide again to be sure the placement was just so. That method is even more time consuming. [this probably explains why so many PPs look messy, with the lettering catawampus, the pictures skewed, ... ] BTW FYI - right below the timing button, is the apply to all button. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that? Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. What are the steps to get to this apply to all button? I don't remember seeing it. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' re-chose the font color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text color do not remain. Before you select all you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that? Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit all to two slides. So... STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have) STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all. STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles. You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems. Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a styles item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called font effects. For example strikethrough, bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the normal tab, right clicking shows a menu item called edit style. In the outline tab that item appears to become presentation object. There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask So you're able to change the text on all the slides? What type of change are you talking about? Are
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
I'm sorry that I did not mention this earlier in this thread. The Impress Guide explains how to create a slide presentation with some detail. It is available for download at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications --Dan anne-ology wrote: yes, Andrew, it works that way ... but I don't want to complete the PP then select the font-color; I want to see each slide finished before going on to the next one. With each font, the placement size changes, therefore by waiting until after the PP is completed before choosing the font would mean I'd have to re-do each slide again to be sure the placement was just so. That method is even more time consuming. [this probably explains why so many PPs look messy, with the lettering catawampus, the pictures skewed, ... ] BTW FYI - right below the timing button, is the apply to all button. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that? Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. What are the steps to get to this apply to all button? I don't remember seeing it. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' re-chose the font color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text color do not remain. Before you select all you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that? Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit all to two slides. So... STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have) STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all. STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles. You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems. Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a styles item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called font effects. For example strikethrough, bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the normal tab, right clicking shows a menu item called edit style. In the outline tab that item appears to become presentation object. There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan
[libreoffice-users] I have a question on Libre - office Calc !
omega The Omega sector America's Last Line of Defense *The second thing you do is to explain your problems with more details. What do you mean that you use data base RA1? ( RE0001 is a name of the file entire data base 126 columns long ) This is a cell, (cell ? I am dealing with the entire Column of cells ) isn't it? You seem to want to check RE1 for duplicates, but duplicates of what? ( contents of the data base ) Just the cell ( NO its the name of the data base file ) RA0001? Or, do you want to check for a range of cells? And again, DO NOT reply to me. Send the new email to users@global.libreoffice.org. Include the Subject: I have a question on Libre - office Calc ! Then explain what you want in more detailed terms in the message. No it is a ENTIRE Data base . . USING data base A to check data base B for duplicates * *The RA0001 and RE0001 were names of the files given to me by Thomas . . I thought is was self explanatory as to what was needed Data base A is the main one and Data Base B is a second one and it contains changes in status of something. . Or the same Information in the new file . . * *But the entire data base is 126 fields ( columns ) long contains tons of crap and information about houses for sale Thomas is a going to be realestate person ( or so he says ) and is looking for a short cut to do stuff with . . * *Each data base starts with a field ( column A ) number by the recorders office and in another field ( column R ) there is a status with a letter there . . Both data bases are the same except for status Column . . has number, names, dates, office, seller, seller company, phone numbers, and on for 126 Columns Of which Thomas only wants to use 49 of them for his use I have already figured out how to do that part . . * -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
I'm in the US, but I save many files which I want to have in chronological order. I always use FileNameYearMonthDate, or Backup20120709.xxx . It is important that if the month or the date is a single digit, it be preceded with a 0 as shown above. Don On 07/26/2012 08:08 AM, Andrew Brager wrote: Hmmm... Year/Month/Day Drop the year for a moment and you have Month/Day: 7/26 Sounds almost... American style. ;-) On 7/26/2012 4:05 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: (For clarity and ease of reading I always use the 3-Letter month abbreviation. So today is 2012 Jul 26!! Ian W Pretoria, South Africa. -- *~~* Don C. Myers e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division *Coldwell Banker University Realty *126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801 Office Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502 Home Phone: 814-422-8111 Cell Phone: 814-571-9518 Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Web Site at _www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/ _View Don's Farm Web Site at www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/ *~~* -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation
Hi :) WoooHooo, at last. I thought i was mad thinking like that but at last someone else has actually said it. Also was wondering about millenium meaning thousand but i can't think of the appropriate word that 'should' have been used instead. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 26/7/12, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.6.0.2 - Calc: date notation To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 26 July, 2012, 12:43 At 12:34 26/07/2012 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: In my view in a date the least significant (fastest changing) part is the day so it's logical to put it in front. In the over 2000 years date notation systems are used ... If you think it's logical to have the least significant part first, shouldn't that be not 2000 years but 0002 years? ;^) Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Do You Share ODF Documents With MS OfficeUsers?
Hi, absolutely agree about the hide extensions crap, this is indeed one of the first things I fix on any computer I am working on for anyone. I knew it went back a long way but pretty much the first version of windows I had a screen reader for was win98. It continues to be the same up through windows 7 and I am sure Windows 8 will be no better. Just to keep this message in line with the subject yes I routinely share ODF documents with Office users because they insist on running MS crap where I work whereas I refuse to give the bastards at MS any more money than absolutely necessary. Best regards, Tom -Original Message- From: Jay Lozier Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:38 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Do You Share ODF Documents With MS OfficeUsers? On 07/25/2012 04:00 PM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 25.07.2012 21:29, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 25/07/12 20:25, Andreas Säger wrote: Every MS Office user can save the much more compatible doc and xls easily. One of the major problems with Windows 7 (and possibly Vista - I can't remember) is that the Show file extensions for known file types is switched OFF by default (God knows why) so the user may not even KNOW they are working with docx or xlsx instead of .doc or .xls... This default setting is one of the most serious issues since Windows '95. They know very well why they install it like that. Every knowledgable user knows why this is the one of the first option to be turned off for each new Windows installation. The problem is that many users are not even aware they can change the setting. Many malware packages exploit this file extension hiding. The last time I reset it I believe I had to drill down about 3 or 4 levels before I could change it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Do You Share ODF Documents With MS OfficeUsers?
Hi :) Excellent name btw chap! :) I just let one of my users login as admin and she 'had to' change a file-name. In Windows by default it includes the file-extension in the name when you try to rename files so she changed the pdf to something with no ending and then Windows couldn't find the right program to open it with! [sighs deeply] Regards from Tom too :) --- On Thu, 26/7/12, Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Do You Share ODF Documents With MS OfficeUsers? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 26 July, 2012, 18:45 Hi, absolutely agree about the hide extensions crap, this is indeed one of the first things I fix on any computer I am working on for anyone. I knew it went back a long way but pretty much the first version of windows I had a screen reader for was win98. It continues to be the same up through windows 7 and I am sure Windows 8 will be no better. Just to keep this message in line with the subject yes I routinely share ODF documents with Office users because they insist on running MS crap where I work whereas I refuse to give the bastards at MS any more money than absolutely necessary. Best regards, Tom -Original Message- From: Jay Lozier Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:38 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Do You Share ODF Documents With MS OfficeUsers? On 07/25/2012 04:00 PM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 25.07.2012 21:29, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 25/07/12 20:25, Andreas Säger wrote: Every MS Office user can save the much more compatible doc and xls easily. One of the major problems with Windows 7 (and possibly Vista - I can't remember) is that the Show file extensions for known file types is switched OFF by default (God knows why) so the user may not even KNOW they are working with docx or xlsx instead of .doc or .xls... This default setting is one of the most serious issues since Windows '95. They know very well why they install it like that. Every knowledgable user knows why this is the one of the first option to be turned off for each new Windows installation. The problem is that many users are not even aware they can change the setting. Many malware packages exploit this file extension hiding. The last time I reset it I believe I had to drill down about 3 or 4 levels before I could change it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
