Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
The questions on your poll are rather leading. The items you have
selected as questions are really not the issue at all.
This list is still a list, what else could it be? You're using it right
now as you're complaining about it. So clearly, it's not private
communication at all. You simply have to make a conscious decision as
to whom you wish to reply to. Yes, you must _think_ about it for a
second or two until you get used to the new way. (And you know what?
You did it! Otherwise I wouldn't be seeing your message right now. Was
it really that hard?)
webmaster-Kracked_P_P stated exactly that. To wit: /I am so use to
pressing Reply and the next button being Reply All, that I now have
to remember to skip the Reply button and remember that the Reply All
button has been replaced with Reply List./
Seriously? We're complaining about remembering to move the mouse a hair
to the right? And it's become a major issue among the users here? I
think there's more discussion about this then there is voter turnout
(apologies to the non-voting countries).
What you're really saying is you don't want to change your habits.
That, I can understand; old habits die hard. However, with a little
effort and a little practice the new way will soon grow on you and
you'll eventually forget what it was you were so upset about.
Now I don't know what email client you're using and perhaps it's a
hassle for you in some other way. Is that the case? I'm using
Thunderbird and so I simply hit Reply List instead of Reply. Not a
big deal. It takes an extra nanosecond to make the conscious decision
to hit one button instead of another. Do you have to do more work than
that?
Back in my day, we had to hike 10 miles uphill in the snow to press a
different button and we were happy to do it ;-)
On 8/13/2012 12:19 PM, anne-ology wrote:
exactly.
Let's take a poll - (1) to return this list to being an actual list
or
(2) to change this from a list to private
communications between only select ones, depriving the group of learning
the ins outs of LO.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
I just posted a reply to a thread to the last poster instead of the thread
by mistake. I am so use to pressing Reply and the next button being
Reply All, that I now have to remember to skip the Reply button and
remember that the Reply All button has been replaced with Reply List.
This may cause some problems, if too many of our list users get the reply
posting that were meant to go to the lists instead.
Christian L. just sent me a notice that my posting went to him instead the
How can I know which one is a spam? thread in the Website list.
I nearly sent this posting to anne-ology instead of the User list. This
is going to be a problem, maybe.
On 08/13/2012 01:06 PM, anne-ology wrote:
exactly, therefore to change the default, you're changing this
list
to where folks will now be corresponding privately rather than allowing
the
list to hear what's new and learn from others.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply List
instead of the text on the Reply All button. I run Thunderbird 14.0.
I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to post a
message to the thread. It could be confusing to people, but does make
it
easier to send a message to the poster, off list. I use to copy the
email
address of the poster and then paste it to my To: section. This will
be
easier to do that, but hopefully not too many people will forget to use
the
new Reply List button instead of the Reply button.
myself, I am not so clear why people are interested in sending private
email to people on a public list. I did it yesterday but only because I
had
trouble posting to the list and was overeager to get my word
('hucksterism') in.
the default mode on a list of replying to the list made sense to me. not
a
big deal for me since I mostly lurk.
F.
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Felmon Davis
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Zotero Intergration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
Hi Anthony, Le 2012-08-14 01:52, Anthony Easthope a écrit : Hi Guys I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as a feature request or a partnership suggestion. My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work. I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will outline my reasons as to why this could work below * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes for Zotero * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for many people * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension which is also open source so at the same time we are not just supporting one open-source initiative but three! * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero) * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish! Regards Anthony Easthope -- antiso...@myopera.com This would be best posted on the discussion list. If, after discussion, the consensus is that it it a good idea, then someone would submit a bug (feature) request. Could you repost this to the discussion list? Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Zotero Intergration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
I have facilitated your request and the deed is now done. On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, at 10:29 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Anthony, Le 2012-08-14 01:52, Anthony Easthope a écrit : Hi Guys I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as a feature request or a partnership suggestion. My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work. I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will outline my reasons as to why this could work below * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes for Zotero * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for many people * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension which is also open source so at the same time we are not just supporting one open-source initiative but three! * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero) * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish! Regards Anthony Easthope -- antiso...@myopera.com This would be best posted on the discussion list. If, after discussion, the consensus is that it it a good idea, then someone would submit a bug (feature) request. Could you repost this to the discussion list? Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Tooltip background is half transparent
I have a problem about tooltip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Tooltip-background-is-half-transparent-tp4001172.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
På Tue, 14 Aug 2012 02:12:33 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for your feedback, and assure you that I read every bit, even if I don't manage to reply to every message in detail. My offer stands valid, let's wait for some more feedback and some more days, and then make a final decision. My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. Most of the mailing lists I subscribe to nowadays (~50 lists) are on Yahoo or Google, and none of them behaves like this, with no Reply-To field. They all have the standard Reply-To list field. And so do the few non-Yahoo/Google lists. LO is now the only exception, and I actually out of old habit replied to your post as I always do to lists (and emails), before I noticed that I was writing to your email instead of to the list. Please switch back! -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I hope this gets to the right place. I used Reply All in Thunderbird. The header looks correct, but people are going to get duplicate messages. Why not 'Reply to List' (I use the keyboard shortcut, CTRL-SHIFT-L)? Thunderbird added this a long time ago... That said, I agree that discussion lists (like this one) that are *not* discussing what would be considered 'private' issues - ie, like an email list for battered wives, etc - should always default to Reply-To munging (reply to the list address)... Anything else just greatly reduces the effectiveness of the list. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday, your changes broke my email filter which puts libreoffice user group messages in a specific folder. But then I changed the filter from looking at Reply-To: to To: and thought that would suffice. Now, this morning I got 7 libreoffice messages in my correct folder via my filter change, and 4 messages direct from members in my main inbox, which my filter did not catch. Your change may make it easy for you, but it is a nightmare for me. There is no way I can create filters for all users who use their address. Wrong. In Thunderbird, just use the 'From, To, Cc or Bcc' option... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Extension to publish Blog posts direct from Writer?
Is there one, or is there a function within Writer to do that? (LO 3.5.6.2) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
Could you please explain what is Zotero? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: Hi Guys I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as a feature request or a partnership suggestion. My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work. I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will outline my reasons as to why this could work below * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes for Zotero * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for many people * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension which is also open source so at the same time we are not just supporting one open-source initiative but three! * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero) * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish! Regards Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Tooltip background is half transparent
Hi, linuxissue schrieb: I have a problem about tooltip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) On WinXP this color do not come from LibreOffice, but it is a system color. Here on WinXP I can set it in the desktop settings in the item QuickInfo. I don't know Ubuntu, but I would look for a similar place there. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
On 08/14/2012 08:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday, your changes broke my email filter which puts libreoffice user group messages in a specific folder. But then I changed the filter from looking at Reply-To: to To: and thought that would suffice. Now, this morning I got 7 libreoffice messages in my correct folder via my filter change, and 4 messages direct from members in my main inbox, which my filter did not catch. Your change may make it easy for you, but it is a nightmare for me. There is no way I can create filters for all users who use their address. Wrong. In Thunderbird, just use the 'From, To, Cc or Bcc' option... I make sure the message filter checks if the email address is in any of the options stated above. It really works, except when someone sends the reply to the list and to me directly. At that point I get both messages in the LibreOffice folder based on which list it is part of - i.e. this list is in the LibreO - Users Global folder and the website list uses LibreO - Website folder. I have been using Thunderbird for many years. The only problem I have is I cannot save the message filters. When I have a system crash [when using Windows] and had to reinstall Windows, I had no ability to reload the message filters as I can with the saved emails and address-book. When I went from Windows to Ubuntu for my default system, I had to rebuild the Message Filtering that had several years of growth that I had to rebuild from scratch. -- off topic --- I currently read my emails from only one computer - my Ubuntu 10.04 desktop. If I need to deal with emails on a different computer, I use my domain/email hosting system's web-mail system. Since I use the Ubuntu desktop, a Dell laptop running Ubuntu 12.04/MATE and Vista, HP laptop running XP/pro, an Android tablet, a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop attached to my HD-TV set for the types of Internet audio/video that my Blu-ray player cannot do, and a few more desktops running Ubuntu or XP that are spares or will be given to others who need them and cannot afford to buy one themselves. With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows and Ubuntu systems. I currently use a 1 TB and a 2 TB USB external hard drive[s] for backing up my main Ubuntu desktop [it has the two drives - 1 TB and 2 TB - installed]. Then I can use these external drives to play AVI and MPG/MP4 files on my TV via the Blu-ray player or listen to audio books with the ability to deal with the volume and play/pause controls of the Blu-ray player and not having to get up out of my comfy chair to do so with my computer. The down side of this is the USB drives must be Windows formatted and it takes a long time to defrag/optimize the 2 TB drive. With 324 GB free space on that drive, it has been over 26 hours running the Auslogics Disk Defrag software on a Dell laptop - Pentium Dual core CPU T3200 @ 2.00 GHz, 32-bit Vista, with 3 GB of RAM. I must keep the drives formatted to Windows systems so the Windows computers and the Blu-ray player can access them. But that is a small price to pay for having all my media and data file accessible to all my computers and media players that can use an external USB drive. It is much better than having to load up a 32 GB microSD flash card, and use a USB card reader, to share the file[s] between devices. Much slower as well. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
and you have how many computers ??? Just wondering, when do you have time for other things? - as eating, sleeping, or conversing with others - as friends family; and when do you tend to various jobs; both work hobbies ??? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I make sure the message filter checks if the email address is in any of the options stated above. It really works, except when someone sends the reply to the list and to me directly. At that point I get both messages in the LibreOffice folder based on which list it is part of - i.e. this list is in the LibreO - Users Global folder and the website list uses LibreO - Website folder. I have been using Thunderbird for many years. The only problem I have is I cannot save the message filters. When I have a system crash [when using Windows] and had to reinstall Windows, I had no ability to reload the message filters as I can with the saved emails and address-book. When I went from Windows to Ubuntu for my default system, I had to rebuild the Message Filtering that had several years of growth that I had to rebuild from scratch. -- off topic --- I currently read my emails from only one computer - my Ubuntu 10.04 desktop. If I need to deal with emails on a different computer, I use my domain/email hosting system's web-mail system. Since I use the Ubuntu desktop, a Dell laptop running Ubuntu 12.04/MATE and Vista, HP laptop running XP/pro, an Android tablet, a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop attached to my HD-TV set for the types of Internet audio/video that my Blu-ray player cannot do, and a few more desktops running Ubuntu or XP that are spares or will be given to others who need them and cannot afford to buy one themselves. With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows and Ubuntu systems. I currently use a 1 TB and a 2 TB USB external hard drive[s] for backing up my main Ubuntu desktop [it has the two drives - 1 TB and 2 TB - installed]. Then I can use these external drives to play AVI and MPG/MP4 files on my TV via the Blu-ray player or listen to audio books with the ability to deal with the volume and play/pause controls of the Blu-ray player and not having to get up out of my comfy chair to do so with my computer. The down side of this is the USB drives must be Windows formatted and it takes a long time to defrag/optimize the 2 TB drive. With 324 GB free space on that drive, it has been over 26 hours running the Auslogics Disk Defrag software on a Dell laptop - Pentium Dual core CPU T3200 @ 2.00 GHz, 32-bit Vista, with 3 GB of RAM. I must keep the drives formatted to Windows systems so the Windows computers and the Blu-ray player can access them. But that is a small price to pay for having all my media and data file accessible to all my computers and media players that can use an external USB drive. It is much better than having to load up a 32 GB microSD flash card, and use a USB card reader, to share the file[s] between devices. Much slower as well. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. ODF support is great, same with OpenFormula. Yet, they seem to want to change the internal formatting stuff within .docx files. MSO 2010 was different than MSO 2007, and now MSO 2013 will be even more different that either of the older two. So it looks like someone will need to work on the MSO filters again. --- http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-gets-support-for-new-odf-and-open-xml-file-formats-702607/ [quote from article] Microsoft Office gets support for new ODF and Open XML file formats Summary: The upcoming version of Office will fully support Strict Open XML and Open Document Format (ODF) 1.2, while Word 2013 will also be able to open and edit PDF files David Meyer By David Meyer | August 14, 2012 -- 11:18 GMT (04:18 PDT) [unquote] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/2012 5:50 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. I agree. The purpose of a list like this is to share information. Typically, when a person on a list such as this one hits REPLY, that person is participating in the larger conversation, and not intending to send a private message to a specific person. Since that is the usual intent, it should be the default. I have been on some lists that have made this change, and typically participation drops and group knowledge is lost. I think it's a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist. - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAqZW4ACgkQXUonIzCvpdM9GACeKV6ucNA0ROby6ppOoLP3DqfY a7wAnjhcjFo0XdjBmhgQGvRNBaGrwuO1 =zGdT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all you're all Linux users who administer at least one Linux installation. And, crap, this stupid change . . . this is the second time I've had to send this because I forgot I have to send it to the list now. What makes you think we are all linux users who administer at least one linux installation? I am a criminal defense attorney running Windows XP. - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAqZrQACgkQXUonIzCvpdPLwwCeLo6/K4c4J7heI3H+K8SjH+TF n+kAn25pQbo16CQQ/mA5Kfuz92l19G8Y =svqP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/2012 9:20 AM, anne-ology wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? It's a research tool that allows you to select quotes and generate citations from them. You can generate bibliographies and reports and do all kinds of stuff. It looks like something that would really help me, and I installed it ages ago, but have never had the time to learn how to use it. Given my profession, I would think it could be tremendously helpful, so I have it on my list of things to master. It probably would be a good tool to try to integrate into LibO. - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAqZ8sACgkQXUonIzCvpdMqrgCfZQtQkNB9gFfUPMb/JfoEW+3J 2KsAn28lBxH3NUXjz4GfWFBSGXYg+o2x =Bf6s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
3 desktops, 2 laptops, 1 tablet - currently out of storage cabinets and setup to run whenever I need it to. More in storage. 1 Blu-ray Player with Internet content apps. 3 network printers [bw duplexing, color laser, USB printer/copier/scanner/fax], 1 USB printer [printer/scanner/copier], plus one USB printer in storage [just a printer]. each printer bought for specific uses. running 2 wireless routers, sometimes 3, [one for my network and one for an isolated shared network for my neighbors [those I give the pass-code to] to get access to the Internet. The secured shared network cannot access any part of my private one's data or printers. After 3 strokes and a debilitating back injury, I no longer work. My life is based on pain and stress management. So I read [or listen to books], watch TV, do some work on fixing friends' computers, deal with these lists, and help out several local not-for-profit groups and associations. I have setup specific computers to do specific functions. My Dell laptop came with Vista, but I also use it as a test bed for the newest Ubuntu versions. I still use Ubuntu 10.04 on my default desktop [typing on it now], but I use the laptop to see how the newest versions of Ubuntu are working. I found out that for Ubuntu 12.04, I prefer using MATE desktop environment over any other d.e. available for 12.04. I found out that 12.04/MATE will allow the Epson Artisan 810 printer/scanner/copier/fax to work with XSane, while 10.04 cannot get the printer and XSane scanner software to work together. I have a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop - Dell Optiplex - attached to my flat screen TV to access streaming content that my Blu-ray player cannot access or cannot do it easily. My older HP laptop has a better wifi antenna so it can pick up hot-spots - or my private network - from a greater distance, and more bars, than my Dell laptop. My living room is filled with computers, printers, books, DVDs and audio discs, paper supply drawers, plus a bit of this and that, besides a nice comfy chair and my TV and blu-ray systems. Also I have my walker and wheelchair in their places to fill the rest of the room. The only thing in the bedroom that is electronic is the CRT-TV and DVD/VCR player. On 08/14/2012 10:37 AM, anne-ology wrote: and you have how many computers ??? Just wondering, when do you have time for other things? - as eating, sleeping, or conversing with others - as friends family; and when do you tend to various jobs; both work hobbies ??? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I make sure the message filter checks if the email address is in any of the options stated above. It really works, except when someone sends the reply to the list and to me directly. At that point I get both messages in the LibreOffice folder based on which list it is part of - i.e. this list is in the LibreO - Users Global folder and the website list uses LibreO - Website folder. I have been using Thunderbird for many years. The only problem I have is I cannot save the message filters. When I have a system crash [when using Windows] and had to reinstall Windows, I had no ability to reload the message filters as I can with the saved emails and address-book. When I went from Windows to Ubuntu for my default system, I had to rebuild the Message Filtering that had several years of growth that I had to rebuild from scratch. -- off topic --- I currently read my emails from only one computer - my Ubuntu 10.04 desktop. If I need to deal with emails on a different computer, I use my domain/email hosting system's web-mail system. Since I use the Ubuntu desktop, a Dell laptop running Ubuntu 12.04/MATE and Vista, HP laptop running XP/pro, an Android tablet, a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop attached to my HD-TV set for the types of Internet audio/video that my Blu-ray player cannot do, and a few more desktops running Ubuntu or XP that are spares or will be given to others who need them and cannot afford to buy one themselves. With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows and Ubuntu systems. I currently use a 1 TB and a 2 TB USB external hard drive[s] for backing up my main Ubuntu desktop [it has the two drives - 1 TB and 2 TB - installed]. Then I can use these external drives to play AVI and MPG/MP4 files on my TV via the Blu-ray player or listen to audio books with the ability to deal with the volume and play/pause controls of the Blu-ray player and not having to get up out of my comfy chair to do so with my computer. The down side of this is the USB drives must be Windows formatted and it takes a long time to defrag/optimize the 2 TB drive. With 324 GB free space on that drive, it has been over 26 hours running the Auslogics Disk Defrag
Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. Not writing ODF 1.1 is a good thing, given how badly it was implemented in MS Office. Also, I understand that Strict Open XML means getting rid of the proprietary stuff that made it difficult for other office suites to implement. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
On 08/14/2012 10:54 AM, Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all you're all Linux users who administer at least one Linux installation. And, crap, this stupid change . . . this is the second time I've had to send this because I forgot I have to send it to the list now. What makes you think we are all linux users who administer at least one linux installation? I am a criminal defense attorney running Windows XP. +1 (even though I use Linux) - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAqZrQACgkQXUonIzCvpdPLwwCeLo6/K4c4J7heI3H+K8SjH+TF n+kAn25pQbo16CQQ/mA5Kfuz92l19G8Y =svqP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
Thanks for this bit of information; sounds intriguing ... where is the software located?, does it contain all the quotes from Barton's and/or Oxford's Dictionary of Quotations?, how much does it cost?, does it automatically use the proper footnote and bibliographic notations?, numbering accordingly?, and how complicated is it to operate?, if you've had it, yet haven't used it makes me wonder re. this program. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/14/2012 9:20 AM, anne-ology wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? It's a research tool that allows you to select quotes and generate citations from them. You can generate bibliographies and reports and do all kinds of stuff. It looks like something that would really help me, and I installed it ages ago, but have never had the time to learn how to use it. Given my profession, I would think it could be tremendously helpful, so I have it on my list of things to master. It probably would be a good tool to try to integrate into LibO. - -- Steven Shelton -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
exactly; and well said. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/14/2012 5:50 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. I agree. The purpose of a list like this is to share information. Typically, when a person on a list such as this one hits REPLY, that person is participating in the larger conversation, and not intending to send a private message to a specific person. Since that is the usual intent, it should be the default. I have been on some lists that have made this change, and typically participation drops and group knowledge is lost. I think it's a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist. - -- Steven Shelton -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Zotero Intergration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
Thanks! Marc Le 2012-08-14 06:20, Anthony Easthope a écrit : I have facilitated your request and the deed is now done. -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
See zotero.org You will find a few videos It is what you might think of as a bibliographic tool. I recommend it to all my students (along with FF and LO.) It also provides for sharing of collaborati libraries. I would have to suggest that the zotero community might appear to be less prone to spatting and more cohesive, and that would be my only heartburn in a closer relationship. On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:20 AM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: Hi Guys I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as a feature request or a partnership suggestion. My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work. I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will outline my reasons as to why this could work below * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes for Zotero * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for many people * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension which is also open source so at the same time we are not just supporting one open-source initiative but three! * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero) * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish! Regards Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
On 08/13/2012 12:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use it for years now; maybe it's erased by now. So it could be a good idea to use Opera Mail for email lists, then… How much space is there for each user these days? ... Opera 12.01 also has Reply Reply List Reply to Sender Reply to All -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
On 08/14/2012 12:57 PM, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for this bit of information; sounds intriguing ... where is the software located?, http://www.zotero.org/ does it contain all the quotes from Barton's and/or Oxford's Dictionary of Quotations?, how much does it cost?, Free, cross platform (Mac, Windows, Linux versions available). Linux versions may be available in your distro's repository. does it automatically use the proper footnote and bibliographic notations?, numbering accordingly?, and how complicated is it to operate?, if you've had it, yet haven't used it makes me wonder re. this program. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/14/2012 9:20 AM, anne-ology wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? It's a research tool that allows you to select quotes and generate citations from them. You can generate bibliographies and reports and do all kinds of stuff. It looks like something that would really help me, and I installed it ages ago, but have never had the time to learn how to use it. Given my profession, I would think it could be tremendously helpful, so I have it on my list of things to master. It probably would be a good tool to try to integrate into LibO. - -- Steven Shelton -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
This (see the quote below) is simply unacceptable. In fact, with respect to the bug on which I received this little gem quite a few people had been at pains to clearly identify the problem and the potential solution, and neither having changed at all, there had been no changes to the bug report save angry responses everytime someone tried to close it because it had not been updated. What is Florian really saying? It would appear to be either that the product is SO buggy we have decided to ignore all the bug reports OR that users are S stupid that we are going to ignore all bug reports Thank you, Florian, for the vote of confidence. If I had the time I would go through and re-open every one of these simply to give Florian something to do. Dear bug submitter! Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within the last six months, we close all of these bugs. To keep this message short, more infos are available @ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is prepared for developers to fix your problem. Yours! Florian -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
Oh, and I don't know if I want zotero associated with a project that deletes long standing bugs with a huge amount of detail simply because they are old, as LO just did. On 8/14/12 5:20 AM, anne-ology wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: Hi Guys I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as a feature request or a partnership suggestion. My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work. I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will outline my reasons as to why this could work below * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes for Zotero * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for many people * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension which is also open source so at the same time we are not just supporting one open-source initiative but three! * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero) * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish! Regards Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Tooltip background is half transparent
linuxissue wrote: I have a problem about tool tip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) What Theme are you using for your background? This may affect what you see. Have you installed Advance Settings (gnome-tweak-tool)? If so, what GTK Theme are you using? Tools LibreOffice View. What Icon size and style are you using? The answer you seek may be in one of the answers to these questions. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
Am 14.08.2012 20:48, Marc Grober wrote: This (see the quote below) is simply unacceptable. In fact, with respect to the bug on which I received this little gem quite a few people had been at pains to clearly identify the problem and the potential solution, and neither having changed at all, there had been no changes to the bug report save angry responses everytime someone tried to close it because it had not been updated. What is Florian really saying? It would appear to be either that the product is SO buggy we have decided to ignore all the bug reports OR that users are S stupid that we are going to ignore all bug reports Thank you, Florian, for the vote of confidence. +1 Today I got 16 such mails. LibreOffice is out of control. Everybody is free to fix things that are not broken. Like the supporters on this list, the QA testers do not know the software, let alone any new features added without specification nor investigation on side effects. Some of the QA people are not even able to run a macro to check out an issue. I'm going to upgrade all our production systems to AOO 3.4.1 which works as expected with all the features I need. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
Hello Marc, I feel the same as you. some of these bugs are not closed because they need info but because we need developers. We can't do much about that, but we should not behave like this to our polite bug reporters. This is not a serious way to embrace community members. I can understand that the developers and QA team needs a better overview of bugs - but this is not the best way to deal with the problem. Perhaps better communication or something else could help, but not this approach, please. Cheers, Leif Lodahl Cheers, Leif Lodahl On 14-08-2012 20:48, Marc Grober wrote: This (see the quote below) is simply unacceptable. In fact, with respect to the bug on which I received this little gem quite a few people had been at pains to clearly identify the problem and the potential solution, and neither having changed at all, there had been no changes to the bug report save angry responses everytime someone tried to close it because it had not been updated. What is Florian really saying? It would appear to be either that the product is SO buggy we have decided to ignore all the bug reports OR that users are S stupid that we are going to ignore all bug reports Thank you, Florian, for the vote of confidence. If I had the time I would go through and re-open every one of these simply to give Florian something to do. Dear bug submitter! Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within the last six months, we close all of these bugs. To keep this message short, more infos are available @ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is prepared for developers to fix your problem. Yours! Florian -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
On 14/08/12 21:13, Andreas Säger wrote: I'm going to upgrade all our production systems to AOO 3.4.1 What is AOO? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
On 08/14/2012 12:11 PM, James Knott wrote: webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. Not writing ODF 1.1 is a good thing, given how badly it was implemented in MS Office. Also, I understand that Strict Open XML means getting rid of the proprietary stuff that made it difficult for other office suites to implement. Yes not saving to 1.1 will be good in the long run for people who wish to get businesses to use ODF instead of MSO's XML formats. Still, the move to make their XML formats use Strict Open XML will make MSO 2013 not readable with MSO 2007 and 2010 package, or as least I have read before. Hopefully it does remove the undocumented proprietary stuff from within their XML formats so it would be easier to create the needed filters to read/write MSO 2013's XML files. We still need to keep 2010 and 2007 XML file filters updated for those users. OpenFormula may make it easier to use Excel '13 files with Calc. Calc does support OpenFormula, right? Actually I did not know that MSO 2010 saved files as PDF, but the article states that 2007 and 2010 both do. Still I would keep a PDF print driver to be able to create PDFs from the non-office documents [neither MSO or LO documents]. CUPS-PDF for Linux [on Ubuntu for me] and the free doPDF software-printer for Windows [on XP and Vista for me] work fine for that. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
On 14-08-12 19:03, anne-ology wrote: wow, you should be a great attorney; you're very expressive. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all you're all Linux users who administer at least one Linux installation. And, crap, this stupid change . . . this is the second time I've had to send this because I forgot I have to send it to the list now. What makes you think we are all linux users who administer at least one linux installation? I am a criminal defense attorney running Windows XP. - -- Steven Shelton Sorry, All of you that resent the change are in error. The RFC requires this change moreover it is much more logical. That Windows users don't understand simple logic is their problem (but understandable). Joep -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
2012/8/14 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de +1 Today I got 16 such mails. Hi, Yes there has been a mistake - all mails has been send four times. The guy made a mistake and he apologized for that and I'm pretty sure he won't do that mistake next time. Mistakes happen no matter what project you are working with - open source or commercial. Thats not the point. The point is that these bugs has been closed just because nobody picked them up. Thats not fair and it will be de-motivating if this procedure is accepted. If the project don't care about me spending time reporting a bug, then I don't care about filling a bug report next time. Cheers, Leif -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
On 08/14/2012 02:33 PM, NoOp wrote: On 08/13/2012 12:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use it for years now; maybe it's erased by now. So it could be a good idea to use Opera Mail for email lists, then… How much space is there for each user these days? ... Opera 12.01 also has Reply Reply List Reply to Sender Reply to All On Thunderbird 14.0, I have the following option for this list email: Reply Reply List [ with drop down option arrow for Reply All] Forward Archive Junk Delete plus a drop down box for other options. I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them up [and their passwords] since I have not used them for more than 6 months. It would be interesting to see of they have the Reply to List option instead of the Reply All option, like Thunderbird has. Those accounts were Hotmail, Yahoo-Mail, Netzero-mail, and a few others that I had to sign up for so I could get access to their free services, for one reason or another. But, I do not use them. I own several domains, so I can create my own email addresses off them anytime I need a new one. Does Outlook [and the old Outlook Express], and MS's Mail package that is on Win7, have the Reply to List option instead of Reply All? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]
On 14-08-12 18:57, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for this bit of information; sounds intriguing ... where is the software located?, does it contain all the quotes from Barton's and/or Oxford's Dictionary of Quotations?, how much does it cost?, does it automatically use the proper footnote and bibliographic notations?, numbering accordingly?, and how complicated is it to operate?, if you've had it, yet haven't used it makes me wonder re. this program. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/14/2012 9:20 AM, anne-ology wrote: Could you please explain what is Zotero? It's a research tool that allows you to select quotes and generate citations from them. You can generate bibliographies and reports and do all kinds of stuff. It looks like something that would really help me, and I installed it ages ago, but have never had the time to learn how to use it. Given my profession, I would think it could be tremendously helpful, so I have it on my list of things to master. It probably would be a good tool to try to integrate into LibO. - -- Steven Shelton Anne, As you have shown you're a simple windows-user and apparently not very well in taking initiative. There are 2 possibilities: 1 use Google 2 go to the Zotero-site to educate yourself (http://zoteror.org) Joep -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
Leif, First, I may be inconsequential, but I did not see any apology. Perhaps it only went out on the dev list. Second, I am not concerned about receiving multiple iterations of the bug closing, but as you suggest, by the closing of a bug simply because it was too much trouble to address. Third, the bug in question in my case was not only clearly identified, but a solution proposed months ago. Fourth, the bug was reclassified in March because the bug tracker was redone, requiring me to reconfirm Fifth, then a few weeks later (end of March 2012) I was asked again to reconfirm and I did. While I agree that whining here is not the answer, I am at a loss as to what else we can do other than to identify the bug, identify the code needed, and identify the source of the needed code. I understand that my little issue is NOT a show stopper, but I am horrified just thinking about what other bugs were simply marked resolved that may be the result of even more effort than we put in on the little item I was involved with. I have had my little rant, for what it is worth, and I hope that there are some devs on this list that may take the message to heart, and that is that. Apologies to all. On 8/14/12 12:32 PM, leif wrote: Hello Marc, I feel the same as you. some of these bugs are not closed because they need info but because we need developers. We can't do much about that, but we should not behave like this to our polite bug reporters. This is not a serious way to embrace community members. I can understand that the developers and QA team needs a better overview of bugs - but this is not the best way to deal with the problem. Perhaps better communication or something else could help, but not this approach, please. Cheers, Leif Lodahl Cheers, Leif Lodahl On 14-08-2012 20:48, Marc Grober wrote: This (see the quote below) is simply unacceptable. In fact, with respect to the bug on which I received this little gem quite a few people had been at pains to clearly identify the problem and the potential solution, and neither having changed at all, there had been no changes to the bug report save angry responses everytime someone tried to close it because it had not been updated. What is Florian really saying? It would appear to be either that the product is SO buggy we have decided to ignore all the bug reports OR that users are S stupid that we are going to ignore all bug reports Thank you, Florian, for the vote of confidence. If I had the time I would go through and re-open every one of these simply to give Florian something to do. Dear bug submitter! Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within the last six months, we close all of these bugs. To keep this message short, more infos are available @ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is prepared for developers to fix your problem. Yours! Florian -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
AOO is the apache open office. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Cal Help
I'm an Advance Novice when it comes to spreadsheet development. I can develop a spreadsheet for basic add, subtract, dividing, and multiplying across cells/rows. I do not know how to develop entry forms, bring cell values from one sheet to the other, or how to perform complicated calculations. Yesterday my grandson presented me with his project needs for his economics class. He needs to be able to analyze and show progress, over the next 8 weeks, of financial stocks, from 8 companies. My goal is to obtain help and develop the spreadsheet he needs, and be able to instruct him at a later time. I am attaching the a file, and would appreciate any help given. His first hand-in work is this Friday. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Cal-Help-tp4001317.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] 3.6 vs Windows 7
I am receiving a FATAL ERROR EXCEPTION and a RUNTIME ERROR when I try to start 3.6 on either of my Windows 7 machines (32 bit and 64 bit). I was able to successfully run it on a machine with XP. I will appreciate any help you might provide. Thank you. Michael GB -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.6 vs Windows 7
Hi Michael, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Michael Smith wrote: I am receiving a FATAL ERROR EXCEPTION and a RUNTIME ERROR when I try to start 3.6 on either of my Windows 7 machines (32 bit and 64 bit). I was able to successfully run it on a machine with XP. I will appreciate any help you might provide. Removing (or renaming) the directory extensions in your LibreOffice user profile should solve your problem. (%appdata%\LibreOffice\3\user\extensions) Then restart LibreOffice (twice). See also: → http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/4768/fatal-error-unhandled-exception/ → http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/4645/libreoffice-360-always-crash-after-install-why/?answer=4675#post-id-4675 → https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53381 → https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53006 → https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51252 → https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/3.6#Most_annoying_bugs → http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/REVIEW-3-6-fdo-53006-Force-reinstall-of-all-bundled-extensions-on-upgrade-td3999123.html#none Hope this helps mjk -- 3.6 New Features and Fixes https://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-6-new-features-and-fixes/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? Unfortunately not. You may add a comment to Bug 46141 - UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46141 mjk -- 3.6 New Features and Fixes https://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-6-new-features-and-fixes/ 3.6 Most annoying bugs http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6#Most_annoying_bugs -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote On 14/08/12 21:13, Andreas Säger wrote: I'm going to upgrade all our production systems to AOO 3.4.1 What is AOO? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=AOO -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Excuse-me-but-your-opinion-is-simply-unimportant-Start-over-and-you-can-expect-more-of-the-same-tp4001269p4001341.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cal Help
On 08/14/2012 05:39 PM, POPPOP41 wrote: I'm an Advance Novice when it comes to spreadsheet development. I can develop a spreadsheet for basic add, subtract, dividing, and multiplying across cells/rows. I do not know how to develop entry forms, bring cell values from one sheet to the other, or how to perform complicated calculations. Yesterday my grandson presented me with his project needs for his economics class. He needs to be able to analyze and show progress, over the next 8 weeks, of financial stocks, from 8 companies. My goal is to obtain help and develop the spreadsheet he needs, and be able to instruct him at a later time. I am attaching the a file, and would appreciate any help given. His first hand-in work is this Friday. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Cal-Help-tp4001317.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Please use nabble to post the spreadsheet. The list strips attachments. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. On 08/14/2012 03:09 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? Unfortunately not. You may add a comment to Bug 46141 - UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46141 mjk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
On 08/14/2012 06:25 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. I am not seeing the behavior you are reporting with LO 3.5.6.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 12.04 On 08/14/2012 03:09 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? Unfortunately not. You may add a comment to Bug 46141 - UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46141 mjk -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them up [and their passwords] since I have not used them for more than 6 months. It would be interesting to see of they have the Reply to List option instead of the Reply All option, like Thunderbird has. Those accounts were Hotmail, Yahoo-Mail, Netzero-mail, and a few others that I had to sign up for so I could get access to their free services, for one reason or another. But, I do not use them. I own several domains, so I can create my own email addresses off them anytime I need a new one. Does Outlook [and the old Outlook Express], and MS's Mail package that is on Win7, have the Reply to List option instead of Reply All? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/14/2012 06:25 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. I am not seeing the behavior you are reporting with LO 3.5.6.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 12.04 I have LO 3.5.5.3, and it also has this problem. Clearly, that was changed in 3.5.6.x. I also have 3.6.0.4 installed. This problem has been remove from it also. Another point, the other complaint about the text outline that was introduced in 3.5.0.x has also been removed. Text outline is now a narrow light gray line. Seems that someone listened to our complaints and changed this behavior back to what it had been from the beginning. --Dan On 08/14/2012 03:09 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? Unfortunately not. You may add a comment to Bug 46141 - UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46141 mjk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
Not in my gmail steve On 2012-08-15 11:24, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them up [and their passwords] since I have not used them for more than 6 months. It would be interesting to see of they have the Reply to List option instead of the Reply All option, like Thunderbird has. Those accounts were Hotmail, Yahoo-Mail, Netzero-mail, and a few others that I had to sign up for so I could get access to their free services, for one reason or another. But, I do not use them. I own several domains, so I can create my own email addresses off them anytime I need a new one. Does Outlook [and the old Outlook Express], and MS's Mail package that is on Win7, have the Reply to List option instead of Reply All? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] turn off header/footer default popup?
On 08/14/2012 07:46 PM, Dan wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/14/2012 06:25 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. I am not seeing the behavior you are reporting with LO 3.5.6.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 12.04 I have LO 3.5.5.3, and it also has this problem. Clearly, that was changed in 3.5.6.x. I also have 3.6.0.4 installed. This problem has been remove from it also. Another point, the other complaint about the text outline that was introduced in 3.5.0.x has also been removed. Text outline is now a narrow light gray line. Seems that someone listened to our complaints and changed this behavior back to what it had been from the beginning. --Dan I have installed 3.6.0 yet. I wonder if there is an OS setting/issue. I do not remember what OS the problem occurred on. On 08/14/2012 03:09 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Hello, I am not quite sure how to use this listserv, so my apologies if I am doing something incorrectly. Using LO 3.5.3.2, everytime I'm near the top of a page in Writer, a blue line appears and the words Header (Default) inviting me to type in the header field. Likewise with the footer when I'm near the bottom of the page. Is there any way to turn this behavior off? Unfortunately not. You may add a comment to Bug 46141 - UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46141 mjk -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
On 08/14/2012 07:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. Do you have a reply all option? You may want to check what email address is used in the To field with reply or reply all. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them up [and their passwords] since I have not used them for more than 6 months. It would be interesting to see of they have the Reply to List option instead of the Reply All option, like Thunderbird has. Those accounts were Hotmail, Yahoo-Mail, Netzero-mail, and a few others that I had to sign up for so I could get access to their free services, for one reason or another. But, I do not use them. I own several domains, so I can create my own email addresses off them anytime I need a new one. Does Outlook [and the old Outlook Express], and MS's Mail package that is on Win7, have the Reply to List option instead of Reply All? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: turn off header/footer default popup?
On 08/14/2012 04:46 PM, Dan wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/14/2012 06:25 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. I am not seeing the behavior you are reporting with LO 3.5.6.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 12.04 I have LO 3.5.5.3, and it also has this problem. Clearly, that was changed in 3.5.6.x. I also have 3.6.0.4 installed. This problem has been remove from it also. Another point, the other complaint about the text outline that was introduced in 3.5.0.x has also been removed. Text outline is now a narrow light gray line. Seems that someone listened to our complaints and changed this behavior back to what it had been from the beginning. --Dan ... Odd. I have: Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) (linux .deb) and it certainly still happens on all of my installations. @Don: if that bug bothers you, you'll really enjoy these related bugs: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46073 [ Page Layout Guides (margins, headers, footers) No Longer Visible] Not to worry... with 3.6 just go to Tools|Options|LibreOffice Writer|Formatting Aids: and untick everything ticked under 'Display of'... Now go back and turn on: View|Nonprinting Characters and you have layout guides again! Of course your blue header/footer line feature will still be available, but you'll no longer be able to view: - Paragraph end - Custom hyphens - Spaces - Non-breaking spaces - Tabs - Breaks - Hidden text - Fields: Hidden text - Fields: Hidden paragraphs But hey, you'll be able to see page guides again (including column guides). Cool huh? My bug report was marked as a dupe of 46073 (twice actually). However I think attachments are worth a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46518 [ UI: Header, footer and page break indicators in multipage view] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44725 [VIEWING: Heading - Footer - Pagebreak lines appear somewhere in the page] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Tooltip background is half transparent
Regina Henschel wrote Hi, linuxissue schrieb: I have a problem about tooltip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) On WinXP this color do not come from LibreOffice, but it is a system color. Here on WinXP I can set it in the desktop settings in the item QuickInfo. I don't know Ubuntu, but I would look for a similar place there. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Thank you, Regina! Amazingly, I have found out the tooltip in LibreOffice becomes normal again today after I open LibreOffice Writer. However, I find that the problem still persists after a GPU hung. Maybe it is my graphics card problem. Anyway, thanks for your help! linuxissue -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Tooltip-background-is-half-transparent-tp4001172p4001391.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: turn off header/footer default popup?
On 08/14/2012 05:17 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/14/2012 07:46 PM, Dan wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/14/2012 06:25 PM, Don Anderson wrote: Curses... absolutely not? Any chance this might be changed in the next version? It is a constant annoyance, if there is no solution, I will be switching to Apache's OO. I am not seeing the behavior you are reporting with LO 3.5.6.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 12.04 I have LO 3.5.5.3, and it also has this problem. Clearly, that was changed in 3.5.6.x. I also have 3.6.0.4 installed. This problem has been remove from it also. Another point, the other complaint about the text outline that was introduced in 3.5.0.x has also been removed. Text outline is now a narrow light gray line. Seems that someone listened to our complaints and changed this behavior back to what it had been from the beginning. --Dan I have installed 3.6.0 yet. I wonder if there is an OS setting/issue. I do not remember what OS the problem occurred on. ... See my previous post in this thread review: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46073 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Tooltip background is half transparent
Dan Lewis wrote linuxissue wrote: I have a problem about tool tip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) What Theme are you using for your background? This may affect what you see. Have you installed Advance Settings (gnome-tweak-tool)? If so, what GTK Theme are you using? Tools LibreOffice View. What Icon size and style are you using? The answer you seek may be in one of the answers to these questions. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Thank you, Dan! I have found out the tooltip in LibreOffice becomes normal again today after I open LibreOffice Writer. However, I find that the problem still persists after a GPU hung while the tooltips of other programs are still normal after a GPU hung and recovery. The GTK theme I am using is Ambiance. I am using small Galaxy icon in LibreOffice. Should I change the theme and icon style in LibreOffice? linuxissue -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Tooltip-background-is-half-transparent-tp4001172p4001394.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Tooltip background is half transparent
linuxissue wrote: Dan Lewis wrote linuxissue wrote: I have a problem about tool tip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) What Theme are you using for your background? This may affect what you see. Have you installed Advance Settings (gnome-tweak-tool)? If so, what GTK Theme are you using? Tools LibreOffice View. What Icon size and style are you using? The answer you seek may be in one of the answers to these questions. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Thank you, Dan! I have found out the tooltip in LibreOffice becomes normal again today after I open LibreOffice Writer. However, I find that the problem still persists after a GPU hung while the tooltips of other programs are still normal after a GPU hung and recovery. The GTK theme I am using is Ambiance. I am using small Galaxy icon in LibreOffice. Should I change the theme and icon style in LibreOffice? linuxissue I would not change the styles. You possibly discovered the problem: the graphics card or driver. I would check that out first. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] What the heck happened to the thesaurus in LO 3.6???
I installed LO 3.6 this morning, and now I find that the thesaurus no longer works. In the tools i looked and noticed it depends on OO's thesaurus, but that blows away my LO Debian menus when I install it, and I had to uninstall everything and reinstall LO 3.6 for it to work, but no thesaurus. ??? Running Xubuntu 12.04. Not happy MR -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] What the heck happened to the thesaurus in LO 3.6???
On 08/15/2012 12:20 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote: I installed LO 3.6 this morning, and now I find that the thesaurus no longer works. In the tools i looked and noticed it depends on OO's thesaurus, but that blows away my LO Debian menus when I install it, and I had to uninstall everything and reinstall LO 3.6 for it to work, but no thesaurus. ??? Running Xubuntu 12.04. Not happy MR Have you looked at the Artha Thesaurus/Dictionary? It's free, runs on Linux, does not invoke Bing or any other junk like that. Try it. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Tooltip background is half transparent
Dan Lewis wrote linuxissue wrote: Dan Lewis wrote linuxissue wrote: I have a problem about tool tip in LibreOffice - its background is half black and half transparent with white words on it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=65488 Screenshot . It makes me difficult to see the description. I have already filed this bug on Bugzilla as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53427 Bug 53427 . However, I think this problem is very rare as I can't find other users having my problem. So, I suspect this is my problem instead of LibreOffice's problem. Have anyone had any idea how to solve this problem? I will be very happy if someone can answer me. Here is my information: Platform: Ubuntu 12.04 / GNOME 3.4.2 LibreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) What Theme are you using for your background? This may affect what you see. Have you installed Advance Settings (gnome-tweak-tool)? If so, what GTK Theme are you using? Tools LibreOffice View. What Icon size and style are you using? The answer you seek may be in one of the answers to these questions. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Thank you, Dan! I have found out the tooltip in LibreOffice becomes normal again today after I open LibreOffice Writer. However, I find that the problem still persists after a GPU hung while the tooltips of other programs are still normal after a GPU hung and recovery. The GTK theme I am using is Ambiance. I am using small Galaxy icon in LibreOffice. Should I change the theme and icon style in LibreOffice? linuxissue I would not change the styles. You possibly discovered the problem: the graphics card or driver. I would check that out first. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted I have updated my graphics card driver to the bleeding edge. So far, no more GPU hung and the tooltips of LibreOffice are normal. I think my problem has been solved. If this problem crops up again, I will ask for further assistance. Thank you, Dan! linuxissue -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Tooltip-background-is-half-transparent-tp4001172p4001408.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Fwd: [libreoffice-users] What the heck happened to the thesaurus in LO 3.6???
Grr - I forgot to reply-to-all (foo). -- Forwarded message -- From: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] What the heck happened to the thesaurus in LO 3.6??? To: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: : Have you looked at the Artha Thesaurus/Dictionary? It's free, runs on Linux, does not invoke Bing or any other junk like that. Try it. Thanks, but that really doesn't replace the embedded thesaurus that used to be in LO. If I have to go external, I usually use thesaurus.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] What happened to LO 3.6's place memory?
I just noticed also that when I close a document, then reopen it, LO 3.6 no longer remembers where I was. This was a really nice feature that has been in LO at least since 3.0, but now it appears to be gone. Can we have it back? Soon? Thanks. MR -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
