[libreoffice-users] Re: Database field on top of PDF document

2013-06-22 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 21/06/2013 20:46, howellsilverman a écrit :

That is correct.  These are forms that are available to me as pdf's without
fillable fields.  Even if the fields were fillable - I want to fill them
from a database.  I'm not the creator of these forms so I have to work
backward from what I receive.


OK, then Girvin's advice about using Draw is probably the best thing, or 
else invest in a specific PDF converter software that will turn your PDF 
image form into an editable one.



Alex




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress Templates

2013-06-22 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 21/06/2013 22:20, Sajan Parikh a écrit :

Are there any sources I can find some better, cleaner, and more modern
looking Impress templates?



Try here :

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/fr/project/oxygenoffice-templates-multilanguage



Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] close application/document

2013-06-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I expected that after closing the last open document and exiting the 
macro, either the desktop would display or OpenOffice would end. Leaving 
OpenOffice running with no GUI to access it feels a bit tricky The 
user then needs to start a second copy of OO and manually kill the 
running copy. Admittedly I did not try starting a new copy to see if it 
took-over for the running copy, but for me, that is the concern.


On 06/22/2013 03:44 AM, Walther Koehler wrote:

Hallo,

my setup is profoundly relying on this feature. I do want to keep libreoffice
being loaded for several reasons (loading time and others).
Right now, the makros are doing exactly what I want them to do.
Yours

Walther

the Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2013 schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak:

Off hand, it sounds like a bug...

If I close a document from the GUI, it opens the desktop thing.  I
wonder why a macro works differently. This is probably due to
interaction between the macro infrastructure and LO, but I am only
guessing. If you open a bug against it, indicate that here and I will
add some comments to your bug.

On 06/21/2013 02:03 PM, Vieri wrote:

By the way, the same thing happens if I use a Basic macro with a call to:

thisComponent.close(true)

The soffice.{bin,exe} processes keep running in the background when they
shouldn't (even on Windows, I'm not using the quickstarter). I'm
expecting the processes to terminate after .close() (I don't want the
extra memory footprint).

So could this be a bug?

Vieri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress Templates

2013-06-22 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/22/2013 02:20 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:

Le 21/06/2013 22:20, Sajan Parikh a écrit :

Are there any sources I can find some better, cleaner, and more modern
looking Impress templates?



Try here :

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/fr/project/oxygenoffice-templates-multilanguage 





Alex





Here are some. . . .
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/templates.html

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[libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play.

I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, 
with 16 gig internal.


After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I 
still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work.  So I 
tried to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work.  
I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of 
that frozen AOO screen.


AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal 
install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of 
the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the 
needed option.  It touched the options all around it as well.  Now, I 
have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet.


So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like.

1]  Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the 
same time.  Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll.


2]  Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch 
tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one.


3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 
2 minutes, if possible.  If not, warn the user it may take x number of 
minutes to load up completely.


4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office 
package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a 
desktop or laptop system.


5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the 
tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons 
too small to use properly and easily.


6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower 
CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets.  Not all tablets have 
dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage.  My old 
one does not even come close.


I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their 
office package needs. What type of features and options are really 
needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and 
OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you need?


I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7 
inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one.  
This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, 
Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of 
these better tablets.  I am still learning what this better tablet can 
do and what apps I might want or need.  Right now, I do not want a 
packagelike AOO for Android.


So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but 
hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their 
version.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/6/22 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com:

 I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play.

 I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, with
 16 gig internal.

 After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I
 still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work.  So I tried
 to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work.  I had to
 use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of that frozen AOO
 screen.

 AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal
 install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of the
 screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the needed
 option.  It touched the options all around it as well.  Now, I have a 9 inch
 tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet.

 So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like.

 1]  Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the same
 time.  Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll.

 2]  Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch tablet.
 AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one.

 3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 2
 minutes, if possible.  If not, warn the user it may take x number of
 minutes to load up completely.

 4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office
 package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a desktop
 or laptop system.

 5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the
 tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons too
 small to use properly and easily.

 6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower CPUs,
 compared to the top of the line tablets.  Not all tablets have dual core
 CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage.  My old one does not
 even come close.

 I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their office
 package needs. What type of features and options are really needed, or
 wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and OOXML [07-13]
 documents. But what editing options will you need?

 I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7
 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one.  This
 new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, Father's Day
 Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of these better
 tablets.  I am still learning what this better tablet can do and what apps I
 might want or need.  Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android.

 So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but
 hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their
 version.

This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
all the time, right?


Johnny Rosenberg

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Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread James Knott
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
 all the time, right?

I can't find either.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Database field on top of PDF document

2013-06-22 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Alex Thurgood wrote:

Le 21/06/2013 20:46, howellsilverman a écrit :
That is correct.  These are forms that are available to me as pdf's 
without

fillable fields.  Even if the fields were fillable - I want to fill them
from a database.  I'm not the creator of these forms so I have to work
backward from what I receive.


OK, then Girvin's advice about using Draw is probably the best thing, 
or else invest in a specific PDF converter software that will turn 
your PDF image form into an editable one.



Alex
Maybe.  Except for the OP's comment: ...I want to fill them from a 
database.   That implies that the OP wants to do something like 
mailmerge, where database record data fields are inserted into the Draw 
text blocks.  I am not sure Draw supports that.  I suppose the Draw 
image of the pdf form could be inserted into a Writer document as a 
background (something like a watermark) and then mailmerge type fields 
could be put on top of the Draw image with frames, but I have never done 
that. 
BTW: I have never used mailmerge, so this is all speculation on my 
part.  It is something I would try if I were having the OP's problem.

Girvin





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Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote:

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
all the time, right?

I can't find either.




LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have 
been told.


To find the AOO port. . . .
go to Google Play
search for OpenOffice

---

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result#

Description
AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android.
You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of 
Apache OpenOffice.

(NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.)

AndrOpen Office has 4 components:

- Writer (a word processor)
- Calc (spreadsheet)
- Impress (presentation graphics)
- Draw (drawing)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Toki Kantoor
On 06/22/2013 04:58 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

What type of features and options are really needed, or

People replaced their desktop with a laptop.  Now they are replacing
their laptop with a tablet.  So whatever you used to do on a desktop, or
laptop, will be done on a tablet.

 But what editing options will you need?

The biggest point of failure of EuroOffice, is that it makes no
provision for styles. To me, that is a failure on a par with the mean
time of 15 seconds from starting MSO, to seeing the Blue Screen of Death.

 This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache 
 OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice 
 for Android,

The description matches AndrOffice, which is a port of Apache OpenOffice
to Android.

jonathon
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Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
(Apache: I am not subscribed to your mailing list; one discussion on 
LibreOffice 
mailing list turned out to point possible violation of your trademark and I 
think you should know)

On 22/06/2013 at 23:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com 
wrote:

 To find the AOO port. . . .
 go to Google Play
 search for OpenOffice
 
 ---
 
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=se
 arch_result#
 
 Description
 AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android.
 You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of 
 Apache OpenOffice.
 (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.)
 
 AndrOpen Office has 4 components:
 
 - Writer (a word processor)
 - Calc (spreadsheet)
 - Impress (presentation graphics)
 - Draw (drawing)
 
 --

This is scam. They don't have a right to make such claims and are in no way 
associated with Apache.

I have been following Apache OpenOffice ecosystem quite closely for some time 
and I assure you, that they would make it clear if they had Android port. The 
only official thing you can find about this is this blog post from beginning 
from 
year:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered

It actually states something contrary. Let's quote:
#v+
9b. Can I load OpenOffice onto my Google Android tablet?

(Combining two related questions) 

Apache OpenOffice is available from the project for Windows, MacOS and Linux.  
Community members additionally have ported OpenOffice to BSD, Solaris and OS/2, 
and make these ports available on their own websites.   There is no port of 
OpenOffice for tablets.  However, there are some 3rd party solutions that allow 
remote access to an OpenOffice session, for example rollApp.
#v-

Their e-mail is andropenoff...@gmail.com. It should ring a bell: why they 
didn't set up e-mail address in apache.org domain?

And one more thing: developer is andropenoffice. com (I put a space here, as 
I 
strongly discourage to go into their website unless you are running virtual 
machine and can catch any bad things that might be there). That website was 
created in February this year and contains little content besides 
advertisements. It is credited by GMO Internet, which I never heard about.

Whereas Apache OpenOffice source code is distributed under permissive license, 
Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org, for that matter) is registered 
trademark. 
It is protected by international law and can't be used to name other products.

I am CC-ing Apache OpenOffice dev list. Hopefully it don't require subscription 
and someone there will take care of this issue.
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RE: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
AndrOpenOffice (AOO) is not an Apache OpenOffice project.  If it were it would 
be on the Apache OpenOffice SVN, the bugzilla, there'd be release votes, etc.  
There is no indication that AndrOpenOffice is even open source, although there 
is apparently significant (non-GPL) open source content.  You'll also notice 
that it does not appear to use any of the Apache OpenOffice trademarks or 
logos, at least not on the Google Play site.

Nothing wrong with it being a port. It just isn't being conducted by the Apache 
OpenOffice project.  

There are disclaimers about full features of ...  deeper in the material.

I guess we don't get to use AOO as a handy abbreviation for Apache OpenOffice 
any longer [;).


 - Dennis

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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote:
 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
 all the time, right?
 I can't find either.



LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have 
been told.

To find the AOO port. . . .
go to Google Play
search for OpenOffice

---

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result#

Description
AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android.
You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of 
Apache OpenOffice.
(NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.)

AndrOpen Office has 4 components:

- Writer (a word processor)
- Calc (spreadsheet)
- Impress (presentation graphics)
- Draw (drawing)

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