Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailing list settings [was: constant crashes]
2013/7/3 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com: At 12:22 02/07/2013 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote: When this odd mailist behavior was instituted a while back, many people complained ... All I see are complaints about this behavior. I don't remember anyone saying they loved it. For the avoidance of doubt, you are suffering from selective memory! There were (and are?) supporters of the current arrangement. I know, because I'm one. Just for once I actually remembered to click Reply All, but now I don't care any more. I hardly even bother to reply at all, most of the time, and if I do, the reply is sent privately (by mistake, but I don't bother to correct it – I have a life). If that's what's people want, fine with me. Johnny Rosenberg Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com: Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a standalone mail client as well, with Linux support. Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with my email database (which doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web interfaces for my email) or whatever… Johnny Rosenberg At the time of announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was coming soon. I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on that. Sajan Parikh /Owner, Noppix LLC/ e: sa...@noppix.com p: (563) 726-0371 Noppix LLC Logo On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote: wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote: Hi All! Libreoffice will the development of mail client? Foxmail isn't open source. Many people use Thunderbird. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance On 7/2/2013 5:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom :) From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Problem with Hashes (MD5, SHA-256, SHA-1...)
*Hi, I try to download LibreOffice 4.0.4 from (http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz ). Usually, I use DownThemAll add-on (firefox) to check the requested files hashes before downloading and to download from different mirrors simultaneously. This time I get this error:* The checksums of the download didn't match. This means the download is corrupt or compromised, unless the provided checksum was bad in the first place. Therefore it is recommended not to use the downloaded data. What would you like to do with the downloaded file? *I think the Hashes in the following page is not correct. ** http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.mirrorlist * * Size: 173M (181109232 bytes) * Last modified: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:46:04 GMT (Unix time: 1371116764) * SHA-256 Hash http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.sha256: abd1b294cd73ad9c61794a372d511894c85b7e79a262a95dad44b3c08587fd17 * SHA-1 Hash http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.sha1: 6c3bee813c7d6d4bc89fc8067b66f7fb944785a7 * MD5 Hash http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.md5: dec1740c5fca829f25015c8ae3f76469 * BitTorrent Information Hash http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.btih: 0a7cdffd79ce1a0b6c510f2718b925ea1c82399e * PGP signature available http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.asc * * * **Thank you** * -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) Crashes are not normal and shouldn't be happening so often. If they happen at all then it should be rare and should be due to the user doing something dumb that they notice and makes them think oops, didn't mean to do that or deliberately killing the process. My machines are lower spec and don't suffer from crashes like this. It might be good to post a bug-report but please use one of the drop-downs to make it clear it's a feature request rather than a real bug. The real bug is whatever is causing the crash. Regards from Tom :) From: Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 14:42 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance On 7/2/2013 5:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom :) From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
Hi :) It's good to hear people are using it more and more nowadays. They won a good fight against IE and deserve the credit for many of the freedoms we have today to be able to choose Firefox, Chrome and others that kept themselves out of the legal fight against MS but still profited from the results. Top marks to anyone that does use Opera though Regards from Tom :) From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 11:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client. 2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com: Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a standalone mail client as well, with Linux support. Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with my email database (which doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web interfaces for my email) or whatever… Johnny Rosenberg At the time of announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was coming soon. I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on that. Sajan Parikh /Owner, Noppix LLC/ e: sa...@noppix.com p: (563) 726-0371 Noppix LLC Logo On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote: wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote: Hi All! Libreoffice will the development of mail client? Foxmail isn't open source. Many people use Thunderbird. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
Hi :) Errr, allegedly. I might have a few facts a bit wonky but that's the way i heard it Regards form Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com; Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 23:38 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client. Hi :) It's good to hear people are using it more and more nowadays. They won a good fight against IE and deserve the credit for many of the freedoms we have today to be able to choose Firefox, Chrome and others that kept themselves out of the legal fight against MS but still profited from the results. Top marks to anyone that does use Opera though Regards from Tom :) From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 11:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client. 2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com: Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a standalone mail client as well, with Linux support. Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with my email database (which doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web interfaces for my email) or whatever… Johnny Rosenberg At the time of announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was coming soon. I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on that. Sajan Parikh /Owner, Noppix LLC/ e: sa...@noppix.com p: (563) 726-0371 Noppix LLC Logo On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote: wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote: Hi All! Libreoffice will the development of mail client? Foxmail isn't open source. Many people use Thunderbird. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 2 'opens' in file menu?
Hi :) Did you install through Synaptic, or another package manager (ie from the repos or Ppas) or did you download from the LibreOffice website? Did you install the desktop-integration packages? Regards from Tom :) From: John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 21:09 Subject: [libreoffice-users] 2 'opens' in file menu? I have 2 Open menu options, both seem to to do the same thing. I have version 4.0.2.2 under Ubuntu John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Good morning (2013/07/03 22:42), Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance I am afraid, I do not understand what force a system check during loading of files means / or how that is done. All I get is a screen reading: Due to an unexpected error LO crashed. All files ... saved. ... and recorvery automatically at the next start (somewhat abbreviated) Then - click SAVE Start recovery? - click recover after a while: Finished click that and the file opens again There are no other choices I have or operations I can do. I also tried to save the file under a different name in a different location: no effect Deleted an index at the end of the file (just a thought): no effect As Mr. Davis suggested: turn off automatic backup - this has been off Save AutoRecovery information every is set at 15 minutes LO DOES save the file in regular intervals, but I cannot find where to change that. I also tried the switching to web layout with small files containing only text like Mr. Davis did and in this case (at least not during the short test period) LO did NOT crash. Is there a setting, where I can choose whether images are displayed or not? Maybe its really time for that bug report - if I manage to figure out how that is done. ** ** -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] template menu
Good afternoon The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4. And this morning I noticed the template menu is gone. One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files - Templates. That's also where the extension items for the extension template changer appeared. After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be found in an unmarked grave = empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File - Exit. But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates - Organize anywhere. Where is this now??? Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing templates etc. is now a thing of the past? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu
Hi Thomas, I have to admit this confused me also. I don't know whether you can simply organize anymore. From the manual: To begin, choose *File **New **Templates***from the Menu bar to openthe Template Manager dialog. http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/published-lo-4.0/wg4-0-ch10-templates/view At this point you can add, modify, delete and move! Cheers On 07/04/2013 02:38 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good afternoon The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4. And this morning I noticed the template menu is gone. One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files - Templates. That's also where the extension items for the extension template changer appeared. After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be found in an unmarked grave = empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File - Exit. But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates - Organize anywhere. Where is this now??? Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing templates etc. is now a thing of the past? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
