Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling correction
Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013 schrieb Steve Edmonds: On 2013-07-12 05:21, Fred James wrote: Walther Koehler wrote: Salute, LO-fans, I have a problem with spell check: given: This is a rong sntence with man mistokes. spell check f7 marks with a red underline what should be changed. So far so well. but 1) When adding manually w before rong and pressing change, spell check will jump back to the start of the paragraph and start checking it again while deleting all hard-formats (like bold) in that very paragraph. 2) When adding manually y at the end of man, the next red mark ist not mistokes but a black m and red istokes. Now you can replace istokes with mistakes, however the text will read as mmistakes. This shift of the red mark ist continued with the following words. This misbehaviour occurs only, when two incorrect words follow each other. Debian Linux, LO 4.0.4 (download 11.07.13), checked with german. Can someone confirm this? In that case, I would submit a bug (I screened the bug list already without finding a reference). Walther Walther Koehler Perhaps I am not doing this the way you are? But I copied/pasted This is a rong sntence with man mistokes into a new LO text document and ran spell check on it with the end result of This is a wrong sentence with man mistakes without encountering any difficulties. I don't see a way to manually add a w within the spell check dialog box ... perhaps I am just not looking in the right place? Regards Fred James Hi Walther, are you pressing f7 to make the corrections. On 3.6 I lose any bold formatting, but I do not encounter the other problems Fred has. Steve Hi Steve, sorry, I have given not the best example (I had not switched dictionary so on my PC man was considered correct). Please use something like This is a rong sntence with munn mistokes. with two consekutive wrong words and correct it by typing an additionally letter at the end of munn. The next red mark will be m (black) istokes (red). The 1st error (loss of bold and other hard formats in the paragraph) also happens, when one tries to correct outside the red mark in the upper window of spell check. Thank you for your response. Walther -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling correction
Hi Tom, thanks a lot A laugh a day keeps the doctor away. be careful when correcting laugh Walther Am Freitag, 12. Juli 2013 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Top left box of the spell-check dialogue-box shows the context of the spelling mistook. It lets me edit in there and then i click the Change button. I might be doing something rong there tho. Who needs the w in rong anyway? It's quite a quiet w and possibly over-rated. Regard from Tom :) From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com To: Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org snip / Perhaps I am not doing this the way you are? But I copied/pasted This is a rong sntence with man mistokes into a new LO text document and ran spell check on it with the end result of This is a wrong sentence with man mistakes without encountering any difficulties. I don't see a way to manually add a w within the spell check dialog box ... perhaps I am just not looking in the right place? Regards Fred James Hi Walther, are you pressing f7 to make the corrections. On 3.6 I lose any bold formatting, but I do not encounter the other problems Fred has. Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Virgil , the secret of styles for ebook publishing is the OutLineLevel you can uses any style but change your paragraph styles to the correct OutlineLevel TITEL = OutlineLevel 1 Subtitel = OutlineLevel 2 Subsubtitel = OutlineLevel 3 etc...to 9 Wolfgang, I don't believe I've heard of structure markup style concept and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily. When I used WP, everything was very typewriter-like, with commands being inserted in a linear fashion until they were changed by a later command. Hence the reason reveal codes was so essential with WP. Virgil -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Keller Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:17 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security
Hi Tom, Please see attached a new print screen when attempting (second time) to download the Windows version of LibreOffice. (I'm, already using it on Linux Mint). The message clearly indicates the website has been infected with a malware. Maybe (hopefully) Linux users are not affected but those on Windows certainly are. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dears, Please see attached the print screen that I got when trying to open LibreOffice website. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. On Debian you might be able to install an antivirus program such as Clamtk (the Gnome/Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce front-end to clamav) or BitDefender or something. Personally i tend to use specialist LiveCds such as http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KITCPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTERfront_id=12lang=enlocale=en http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity or one of the other System Rescue type distros listed at http://distrowatch.com/ I quite like Trinity Rescue Kit because i have used it quite often but i haven't tried any of the others much. TRK can sort out quite a few Windows problems quite quickly or just do maintance. I would use it to safely declutter first but emptying the temp folders and caches before leaving it to do an over-night antivirus scan and i would get it to run just 1 of the av programs at a time rather than 1 after another, at least until i had some idea how long the scans took on your machine. They are a bit thorough! Even 1 could easily take all night. Actually i would probably start by just installing clamtk inside Debian and scan from there. That way i could keep working while the scan was running. After that scan it might be easier to decide how to proceed. Obviously Debain wont be affected by the Windows viruses so you can carry on working on the documents that are on the Windows side of your machine. Just make sure you scan documents before sending them on to other Windows users. Good luck! Thanks for letting us know! Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Sunday, 16 June 2013, 22:08 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:55:51 -0400, Petre Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear LibreOffice Team, My antivirus program under Windows is blocking the access to your website because it is infected with a malware. I'm accessing your website using a linux operating system (debian based distro). Is it possible for you to check if your website has been infected? And thank you for the excellent office suite you have created. Kind regards from Romania, Petre Borocan Petre What antivirus are you using and does it report a specific virus? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security
The list won't let the attachment through. What antivirus do you use ? -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net 2013/7/12 Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com Hi Tom, Please see attached a new print screen when attempting (second time) to download the Windows version of LibreOffice. (I'm, already using it on Linux Mint). The message clearly indicates the website has been infected with a malware. Maybe (hopefully) Linux users are not affected but those on Windows certainly are. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dears, Please see attached the print screen that I got when trying to open LibreOffice website. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. On Debian you might be able to install an antivirus program such as Clamtk (the Gnome/Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce front-end to clamav) or BitDefender or something. Personally i tend to use specialist LiveCds such as http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KITCPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTERfront_id=12lang=enlocale=en http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity or one of the other System Rescue type distros listed at http://distrowatch.com/ I quite like Trinity Rescue Kit because i have used it quite often but i haven't tried any of the others much. TRK can sort out quite a few Windows problems quite quickly or just do maintance. I would use it to safely declutter first but emptying the temp folders and caches before leaving it to do an over-night antivirus scan and i would get it to run just 1 of the av programs at a time rather than 1 after another, at least until i had some idea how long the scans took on your machine. They are a bit thorough! Even 1 could easily take all night. Actually i would probably start by just installing clamtk inside Debian and scan from there. That way i could keep working while the scan was running. After that scan it might be easier to decide how to proceed. Obviously Debain wont be affected by the Windows viruses so you can carry on working on the documents that are on the Windows side of your machine. Just make sure you scan documents before sending them on to other Windows users. Good luck! Thanks for letting us know! Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Sunday, 16 June 2013, 22:08 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:55:51 -0400, Petre Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear LibreOffice Team, My antivirus program under Windows is blocking the access to your website because it is infected with a malware. I'm accessing your website using a linux operating system (debian based distro). Is it possible for you to check if your website has been infected? And thank you for the excellent office suite you have created. Kind regards from Romania, Petre Borocan Petre What antivirus are you using and does it report a specific virus? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base DB Connections
Thanks for your encouragement Tom. What little experience I've had with HTML convinced me that it was not that simple - especially when trying to get a Web page to do similar things to what was possible using a database Form. Admittedly, that was a while ago - I believe HTML's capabilities are better now. My observation is that most people can specialise in only fairly small areas of IT, and therefore we need help from one another when we are attempting something that is out of our normal. I'm glad when I'm able to help a bit. Noel -- Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com On 11 July 2013 22:19, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I am impressed that this list was able to help you migrate your obvious talent so quickly. Andrew's skills with macro programming are quite extreme so getting praise from him is impressive! It is also great to see you use those new skills to help others on this list and help disseminate that knowledge. So, don't sell yourself short! That was great! :) I kinda wish i had the knowledge to understand it! I only do htmlcss coding (ie not real programming) but even so i was able to see the code looked clear and nicely lined-up (despite the attempts of the various clashing emailing systems to try to mess it up). Everything else went over my head of course. There are other people on the list that also have extreme skills but Andrew's book seems to be the main one that people say is well worth the money https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers and he is in the documentation team helping write the official guides which can be downloaded freely. Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Marion Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Thursday, 11 July 2013, 5:39 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base DB Connections Thanks Andrew, Much of my macro's code was built on your examples and those of others. How did we ever manage before the Web? Noel -- Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com On 11 July 2013 10:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: Very Nice! On 07/10/2013 09:08 AM, Marion Noel Lodge wrote: Hi Mark, Here is the code - -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice website security
On 17-06-2013 07:31, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. Sorry, but this is not true, so i want to add some things 1) A unix (or linux) system CAN spread (windows) virusses (or virae) (a virus is nothing more that a piece of (binary) code, which is not aware of any OS) 2) GNU (GNU's Not Unix) has nothing to do with that. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice website security
Hi :) Sure, a Windows virus could theoretically sit on a GnuLinux platform just as it could sit on any other platform. The difference is that it can't knock-out the anti-malware defences of the GnuLinux system. Also it can't run or replicate itself or infect other files on the system. So at best all it can do is sithope. Even fairly rubbishy security with infrequent updates is likely to wipe it out faster than it can grow because it can't grow. The link doesn't mention security but one of the fundamental and top priorities of Unix was to ensure that no single user could take down the whole system or affect any other user. Unix machines typically had hundreds of workers all logged in at the same time and often running processes that might take a long time to complete. Imagine if one user was running the equivalent of a defrag or disk check when another user just quickly rebooted the system. Too much potential to trash the system or lose data or hours worth of work. So, programs had to be able to run without elevating privileges and without affecting other users on the same system. Windows aimed at tiny, cheap machines with just 1 user per machine. The aim was to get a personal computer into every home and onto every desk. if a single user took down their own system it only affected the 1 person. Since then they have bolted on a few thing on top of that, such as allowing multiple users (but not at the same time), network and internet access and some attempt at dealing with some security issues as an (optional) after-thought. Wrt the thread, the reported issue did get forwarded to the websites team and they dealt with the situation really rather quickly. Thanks to the person reporting the issue the situation was resolved several hours faster than it might have been otherwise. Regards from Tom :) From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 10:56 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice website security On 17-06-2013 07:31, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. Sorry, but this is not true, so i want to add some things 1) A unix (or linux) system CAN spread (windows) virusses (or virae) (a virus is nothing more that a piece of (binary) code, which is not aware of any OS) 2) GNU (GNU's Not Unix) has nothing to do with that. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base DB Connections
Hi :) Thanks :) I think most of the trick with html is to use it for what it is good for and find other tools to do anything else you might need. People often seem to want a single tool to do everything but in the outside world they wouldn't expect to be able to use their soup-spoon to empty the bilges of a sinking boat (unless it was a very tiny boat) and neither of those tools would be great for stirring paint with (it makes the soup taste funny). Finding the right tool for the right job and getting the different tools to work together is most of the trick. Regards from Tom :) From: Marion Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 10:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base DB Connections Thanks for your encouragement Tom. What little experience I've had with HTML convinced me that it was not that simple - especially when trying to get a Web page to do similar things to what was possible using a database Form. Admittedly, that was a while ago - I believe HTML's capabilities are better now. My observation is that most people can specialise in only fairly small areas of IT, and therefore we need help from one another when we are attempting something that is out of our normal. I'm glad when I'm able to help a bit. Noel -- Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com On 11 July 2013 22:19, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I am impressed that this list was able to help you migrate your obvious talent so quickly. Andrew's skills with macro programming are quite extreme so getting praise from him is impressive! It is also great to see you use those new skills to help others on this list and help disseminate that knowledge. So, don't sell yourself short! That was great! :) I kinda wish i had the knowledge to understand it! I only do htmlcss coding (ie not real programming) but even so i was able to see the code looked clear and nicely lined-up (despite the attempts of the various clashing emailing systems to try to mess it up). Everything else went over my head of course. There are other people on the list that also have extreme skills but Andrew's book seems to be the main one that people say is well worth the money https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers and he is in the documentation team helping write the official guides which can be downloaded freely. Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Marion Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Thursday, 11 July 2013, 5:39 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base DB Connections Thanks Andrew, Much of my macro's code was built on your examples and those of others. How did we ever manage before the Web? Noel -- Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com On 11 July 2013 10:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: Very Nice! On 07/10/2013 09:08 AM, Marion Noel Lodge wrote: Hi Mark, Here is the code - -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. But, as I've said before, LyX/LaTeX have their own sets of problems. Perhaps the best solution is the one a person will actually use to get the job done. One Scrivener reviewer commented that evaluating writing software is more fun than writing. I have found that true as I often spend more time trying to find the perfect writing tool than I do actually writing. Many years ago, a person was talking to Mike Royko, a Chicago journalist about writing a book. He asked Mike what the best software was for doing the task. Mike replied something to the effect of, Software? Look, son, get yourself a legal pad and a pen and just start writing. Virgil -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote: For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: spelling correction
Walther In LO 4.04.2 there is no alteration of Bold type. Your other error involving the added m is still there though. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spelling-correction-tp4065024p4065146.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security
Hi :) Hmm, English language is sometimes inadequate and lacks things that other languages take for granted. Which you do you mean? Me personally or the LibreOffice mailing lists? The lists are nothing to do with me and i'm not even a member of TDF. In fact they often threaten to remove me from the lists for one reason or other. I'm expecting another such threat about a couple of posts i made yday but just haven't got that far back in my emails yet. The LibreOffice mailing lists just routinely strip ALL attachments but that is less about security and more about avoiding forcing people to download potentially hefty files that might be irrelevant to their reasons for being on the lists. You can use Nabble or some other Cloud storage system and then point to the file in your email http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Nabble is probably the best when posting to this list as it makes it easy. I'm not sure what i would use away from the lists. Google-drive maybe? Ubuntu One? Dropbox? It really depends on what you are doing and all i do is office work and IT. I'm not an artist so DeviantArt or photo sharing sites wouldn't be relevant. I've seen people have problems with SkyDrive that left them completely unable to access their own data but that could easily have been user-error. I personally rarely use any antivirus on unix-based platforms. I just make my system as secure as reasonably possible and then do occasional scans. Occasionally i realise i've been dumb about something and then try to tighten that up. Other times if i'm learning something new to me i might keep it simple to start with and then change all the passwords and stuff when i feel comfortable. Mostly i just fully reinstall a new OS about every year or 2, although last time i did follow the normal upgrade process instead of doing a full install and was surprised how well it went. On my colleagues Windows systems i typically leave AVG or something and if the machine is up to it also run the MS Security Essentials. Sometimes i have to choose 1 or the other rather than having both :( Again, with them i boot into a LiveCd and do a proper full antivirus scan every couple of years. The first job of any decent malware should be to knock out any defences on the system it's on or even better is to find a way to neatly bypass them to avoid chance of detection. A LiveCd is difficult to write to so it's less likely to get compromised and so the scan is more likely to get a good result. Regards form Tom :) From: Gabriel Risterucci cleyf...@gmail.com To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 10:19 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security The list won't let the attachment through. What antivirus do you use ? -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net 2013/7/12 Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com Hi Tom, Please see attached a new print screen when attempting (second time) to download the Windows version of LibreOffice. (I'm, already using it on Linux Mint). The message clearly indicates the website has been infected with a malware. Maybe (hopefully) Linux users are not affected but those on Windows certainly are. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dears, Please see attached the print screen that I got when trying to open LibreOffice website. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. On Debian you might be able to install an antivirus program such as Clamtk (the Gnome/Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce front-end to clamav) or BitDefender or something. Personally i tend to use specialist LiveCds such as http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KITCPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTERfront_id=12lang=enlocale=en http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity or one of the other System Rescue type distros listed at http://distrowatch.com/ I quite like Trinity Rescue Kit because i have used it quite often but i haven't tried any of the others much. TRK can sort out quite a few Windows problems quite quickly or just do maintance. I would use it to safely declutter first but emptying the temp folders and caches before leaving it to do an over-night antivirus scan and i would get it to run just 1 of the av programs at a time rather than 1 after another, at least until i had some idea how
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) +1 Well said! :) The tools sometimes get in the way of doing the job. Yes, keep learning new tricks and better ways when idling along but just use whatever you are comfortable with when you need to get a job done. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 12:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. But, as I've said before, LyX/LaTeX have their own sets of problems. Perhaps the best solution is the one a person will actually use to get the job done. One Scrivener reviewer commented that evaluating writing software is more fun than writing. I have found that true as I often spend more time trying to find the perfect writing tool than I do actually writing. Many years ago, a person was talking to Mike Royko, a Chicago journalist about writing a book. He asked Mike what the best software was for doing the task. Mike replied something to the effect of, Software? Look, son, get yourself a legal pad and a pen and just start writing. Virgil -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote: For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security
Hi :) Have you tried downloading the Windows one in Mint and then run a antivirus scan on it? maybe Clamav? I'm sure i downloaded LO recently on an Xp and on a Win 7 macine with no problems but i might have another look later. Could someone forwards the problem to the websites mailing list to see if something new has cropped up? Regards from Tom :) From: Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 8:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security Hi Tom, Please see attached a new print screen when attempting (second time) to download the Windows version of LibreOffice. (I'm, already using it on Linux Mint). The message clearly indicates the website has been infected with a malware. Maybe (hopefully) Linux users are not affected but those on Windows certainly are. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dears, Please see attached the print screen that I got when trying to open LibreOffice website. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. On Debian you might be able to install an antivirus program such as Clamtk (the Gnome/Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce front-end to clamav) or BitDefender or something. Personally i tend to use specialist LiveCds such as http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KITCPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTERfront_id=12lang=enlocale=en http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity or one of the other System Rescue type distros listed at http://distrowatch.com/ I quite like Trinity Rescue Kit because i have used it quite often but i haven't tried any of the others much. TRK can sort out quite a few Windows problems quite quickly or just do maintance. I would use it to safely declutter first but emptying the temp folders and caches before leaving it to do an over-night antivirus scan and i would get it to run just 1 of the av programs at a time rather than 1 after another, at least until i had some idea how long the scans took on your machine. They are a bit thorough! Even 1 could easily take all night. Actually i would probably start by just installing clamtk inside Debian and scan from there. That way i could keep working while the scan was running. After that scan it might be easier to decide how to proceed. Obviously Debain wont be affected by the Windows viruses so you can carry on working on the documents that are on the Windows side of your machine. Just make sure you scan documents before sending them on to other Windows users. Good luck! Thanks for letting us know! Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Sunday, 16 June 2013, 22:08 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:55:51 -0400, Petre Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear LibreOffice Team, My antivirus program under Windows is blocking the access to your website because it is infected with a malware. I'm accessing your website using a linux operating system (debian based distro). Is it possible for you to check if your website has been infected? And thank you for the excellent office suite you have created. Kind regards from Romania, Petre Borocan Petre What antivirus are you using and does it report a specific virus? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spelling correction
Hi Tink, I dont understand? Could you not reproduce my obervation? I used LO 4.0.4.2 and hard formats will be erased. Walther Am Freitag, 12. Juli 2013 schrieb Tinkerer: Walther In LO 4.04.2 there is no alteration of Bold type. Your other error involving the added m is still there though. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spelling-correction-tp4065024p4065146. html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security
Hi :) Ok, i got the attachment off-list and he error is being thrown up by an Antivirus i haven't used before but is a fairly big name. It could be a false positive but it's better to let the websites team know about it even if it is. They might be able to contact Avira and let them know of the problem, if it is a false positive. If it's a real problem then they are the ones that could fix it fastest. So, a win-win. Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 12:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security Hi :) Have you tried downloading the Windows one in Mint and then run a antivirus scan on it? maybe Clamav? I'm sure i downloaded LO recently on an Xp and on a Win 7 macine with no problems but i might have another look later. Could someone forwards the problem to the websites mailing list to see if something new has cropped up? Regards from Tom :) From: Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 8:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security Hi Tom, Please see attached a new print screen when attempting (second time) to download the Windows version of LibreOffice. (I'm, already using it on Linux Mint). The message clearly indicates the website has been infected with a malware. Maybe (hopefully) Linux users are not affected but those on Windows certainly are. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Petre Matei Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dears, Please see attached the print screen that I got when trying to open LibreOffice website. Kind regards, Petre On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on unix-based platforms such as GnuLinux. I don't think any of the internet-facing servers run on Windows. Also i suspect that uploads get scanned and stuff on the servers gets scanned fairly regularly. However it might be wise if we let the websites team know there might be an issue. On Debian you might be able to install an antivirus program such as Clamtk (the Gnome/Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce front-end to clamav) or BitDefender or something. Personally i tend to use specialist LiveCds such as http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KITCPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTERfront_id=12lang=enlocale=en http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity or one of the other System Rescue type distros listed at http://distrowatch.com/ I quite like Trinity Rescue Kit because i have used it quite often but i haven't tried any of the others much. TRK can sort out quite a few Windows problems quite quickly or just do maintance. I would use it to safely declutter first but emptying the temp folders and caches before leaving it to do an over-night antivirus scan and i would get it to run just 1 of the av programs at a time rather than 1 after another, at least until i had some idea how long the scans took on your machine. They are a bit thorough! Even 1 could easily take all night. Actually i would probably start by just installing clamtk inside Debian and scan from there. That way i could keep working while the scan was running. After that scan it might be easier to decide how to proceed. Obviously Debain wont be affected by the Windows viruses so you can carry on working on the documents that are on the Windows side of your machine. Just make sure you scan documents before sending them on to other Windows users. Good luck! Thanks for letting us know! Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Sunday, 16 June 2013, 22:08 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice website security On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:55:51 -0400, Petre Borocan petre.boro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear LibreOffice Team, My antivirus program under Windows is blocking the access to your website because it is infected with a malware. I'm accessing your website using a linux operating system (debian based distro). Is it possible for you to check if your website has been infected? And thank you for the excellent office suite you have created. Kind regards from Romania, Petre Borocan Petre What antivirus are you using and does it report a specific virus? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) Thanks for the tips! it's good to hear from someone that is getting published and able to show it Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jack Wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 3:18 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 07/11/2013 10:00 PM, rost52 wrote: As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote: I'll reiterate this again -- if you're self publishing (and you intend on doing so with Amazon, BN, Smashwords, KOBO, etc... you will have to convert whatever file you create into .mobi or .epub format. The best tool for that task is Calibre. And the best way to do that is to save a doc as an .html file (in LO), import it into Calibre, and then covert it. That's what I've done for every novel I've published. -- *Jack Wallen*|The Zombie King Get on the Dark Hayride at Get Jack'd Author of the I Zombie, Fringe Killers, The Nameless, and Shero series of books -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I fully agree. I use outline level styles all the time, and they make a world of difference, especially when used in headings. They make jumping from one heading to the next actually work on my Kindle. Virgil --- From: Fernand Vanrie Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:22 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Virgil , the secret of styles for ebook publishing is the OutLineLevel you can uses any style but change your paragraph styles to the correct OutlineLevel TITEL = OutlineLevel 1 Subtitel = OutlineLevel 2 Subsubtitel = OutlineLevel 3 etc...to 9 Wolfgang, I don't believe I've heard of structure markup style concept and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily. When I used WP, everything was very typewriter-like, with commands being inserted in a linear fashion until they were changed by a later command. Hence the reason reveal codes was so essential with WP. Virgil -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Keller Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:17 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I fully agree. I use outline level styles all the time, and they make a world of difference, especially when used in headings. They make jumping from one heading to the next actually work on my Kindle. Virgil Along those same lines -- when you convert in Calibre -- the ONLY thing that matters (as far as chapters are concerned) is the style you use for said chapter headings. I always use H3 and then make sure to catch this in the Structure Detection section of the conversion window. With this you can define some nice things (such as page breaks). --- From: Fernand Vanrie Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:22 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Virgil , the secret of styles for ebook publishing is the OutLineLevel you can uses any style but change your paragraph styles to the correct OutlineLevel TITEL = OutlineLevel 1 Subtitel = OutlineLevel 2 Subsubtitel = OutlineLevel 3 etc...to 9 Wolfgang, I don't believe I've heard of structure markup style concept and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily. When I used WP, everything was very typewriter-like, with commands being inserted in a linear fashion until they were changed by a later command. Hence the reason reveal codes was so essential with WP. Virgil -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Keller Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:17 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy Writer of the I Zombie, Fringe Killer, Shero, and Screampark series as well as the upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. Learn more @ www.monkeypantz.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ?
FileExport as PDF.. Most publishers have the ability to use/edit a PDF. Hope this helps. On 7/11/2013 9:18 PM, Helen wrote: I agreed to edit (one time only) a local literary magazine comeing out soon. I have saved each of the documents (plays, poetry, etc.) and edited in LibreOffice. Before sending the files to the publisher, I've been saving them to .doc. The publisher emails to say that all the documents have weird formatting and strange characters. He wants to know if I can send the files to him in .rft (rich text) format. I don't see that as an option in the save as menu. Is there a way I can do this -- convert the .odt files to .rtf? Using LibreOffice on Suse Linux. Thanks all, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ?
On Friday, July 12, 2013 03:42:32 AM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sometimes you have to scroll backward up the list above the starting point of the drop-down. However, it is very unusual to hear of (or see) a .Doc getting malformed! .DocXs go weird sometimes because each version of MSO does it slightly differently. But even those shouldn't be showing any strange characters. Maybe unusual but it is happening occasionally in Writer (interoffice-writer-4.0.3.3.3-1.1.x86_64). System document was opened on is a Win7 system. In my case it was a .odt document with some defined form fields. The .doc version would not allow input in the form field areas. If saved as .docx the whole document was offset, missing parts, graphics miss placed on etc. See signiture below for my config. Could it be a fonts issue? SuSE and other GnuLinuxes often have a wide range of slightly unusual fonts to avoid proprietary ones such as Arial, Times New Roman (and so on) that might have copyright issues. Might it be easier to send him/her the .Odt and a link to the LibreOffice downloads page? Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 2:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ? Hi Helen, what version of LO are you using? When I do as a save as in LO4.0.4.2 I can see .rtf 4th from bottom of the list of formats. Cheers On 07/12/2013 11:18 AM, Helen wrote: I agreed to edit (one time only) a local literary magazine coming out soon. I have saved each of the documents (plays, poetry, etc.) and edited in LibreOffice. Before sending the files to the publisher, I've been saving them to .doc. The publisher emails to say that all the documents have weird formatting and strange characters. He wants to know if I can send the files to him in .rft (rich text) format. I don't see that as an option in the save as menu. Is there a way I can do this -- convert the .odt files to .rtf? Using LibreOffice on Suse Linux. Thanks all, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe / Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- openSUSE 12.3(Linux 3.9.8-1.gf3348a8-desktop)|KDE 4.10.4 release 569|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.23) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Import Word doc with macros
I have a word document with a macro in it that adds your name to each page once you enter it on the first page. The macro obviouslydoesn't work once it's imported into LO but how do I get rid of it ? Thanks Mal -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ?
If it is a font issue, you can download the Microsoft Core Web Fonts for free and add them to your system. Then change the font to standard Microsoft Times New Roman or Arial or whatever. That should take care of it. http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ http://web.archive.org/web/20020124085641/http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm Better yet, just use your distro's utility for installing them. The OP one said SuSE, so: http://www.itworld.com/software/351785/install-microsoft-core-fonts-opensuse-123 On 07/11/2013 10:42 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sometimes you have to scroll backward up the list above the starting point of the drop-down. However, it is very unusual to hear of (or see) a .Doc getting malformed! .DocXs go weird sometimes because each version of MSO does it slightly differently. But even those shouldn't be showing any strange characters. Could it be a fonts issue? SuSE and other GnuLinuxes often have a wide range of slightly unusual fonts to avoid proprietary ones such as Arial, Times New Roman (and so on) that might have copyright issues. Might it be easier to send him/her the .Odt and a link to the LibreOffice downloads page? Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 2:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ? Hi Helen, what version of LO are you using? When I do as a save as in LO4.0.4.2 I can see .rtf 4th from bottom of the list of formats. Cheers On 07/12/2013 11:18 AM, Helen wrote: I agreed to edit (one time only) a local literary magazine coming out soon. I have saved each of the documents (plays, poetry, etc.) and edited in LibreOffice. Before sending the files to the publisher, I've been saving them to .doc. The publisher emails to say that all the documents have weird formatting and strange characters. He wants to know if I can send the files to him in .rft (rich text) format. I don't see that as an option in the save as menu. Is there a way I can do this -- convert the .odt files to .rtf? Using LibreOffice on Suse Linux. Thanks all, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi Wolfgang, Wolfgang Keller schrieb: I don't believe I've heard of structure markup style concept and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily. To put it simply: Wordperfect (or e.g. Framemaker) styles allow to do structure markup. Word, OO and LO styles don't. All three allow structure markup. In Word it is a little bit hidden in the UI, but in AOO and LO it is easily done. In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens of others, LaTeX or anything that outputs structured XML) use nestable open- and close-tags, while Word and LO/OO don't. That is wrong. AOO and LO use ODF which is XML. What do you want to do, which is not possible? The style concept of Wordperfect was so well designed that the original developers (Wordperfect) even implemented an XML authoring application (for structured XML, using real schemas and stylesheets, not spaghetti garbage like the Opendocument XML) that used the Wordperfect UI, including the style editor. This application is even shipped with every copy of Corel Office, it's just mentioned or documented nowhere. You will need to explain spaghetti garbage. You can read the schema for ODF in http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html for example. The style concept of both Word and LO/OO however is so severely screwed up that I've never ever seen a document that would have allowed to re-use content in any other way (within the same application!) than by copying and pasting it as unformatted text and then re-applying all the formatting by hand. So you would need to blame the people who wrote the documents. If you use LO correctly, then copy and paste works well. That does not mean, that all cases are free from errors. But those are bugs and no errors in the concept. Unfortunately these days, people only learn with MS garbage and thus they learn document processing exactly the wrong way. You underestimate the teachers. And of course, the reveal codes view of Wordperfect at least allowed to debug documents, while there is absolutely no way to do this with Word or LO/OO documents. Mmh, I had no problem to detect the errors in the documents my pupils had produced. And I wish the source view in LyX was editable. Then you will like to use fodt in LibreOffice. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 12/07/2013 at 16:09, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
Wordperfect (or e.g. Framemaker) styles allow to do structure markup.
Word, OO and LO styles don't.
In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document
processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens
of others, LaTeX or anything that outputs structured XML) use nestable
open- and close-tags, while Word and LO/OO don't.
Just because LO/OOo/MSO does not show tags, does not mean that they do not
allow structural markup.
In LaTeX, you are free to make the same spaghetti garbage as in any other text
processing software. No one prevents you from creating you heading like this:
#v+
\vspace{2 cc}
{\LARGE \textbf{1.\hspace{1.5 cc}This is my heading}}
\vspace{1 cc}
#v-
It's equivalent to putting empty paragraphs before and after heading and
manually formatting it (making text larger and bolder).
LaTeX \section{This is my heading} is equivalent to LO's applying one of
Heading X styles.
The style concept of both Word and LO/OO however is so severely screwed
up that I've never ever seen a document that would have allowed to
re-use content in any other way (within the same application!) than by
copying and pasting it as unformatted text and then re-applying all
the formatting by hand.
This only means that people who you've had working with can not use their
tools properly. If they had used styles, you could reuse content of one
document within another with ease.
OK, I can agree that this is somewhat tools fault (they could make more
advanced features more discoverable and easier to understand); but I can not
agree that only tools are to blame.
And of course, the reveal codes view of Wordperfect at least allowed
to debug documents, while there is absolutely no way to do this with
Word or LO/OO documents
MS Word's Style Inspector is pretty useful, but rather hidden feature designed
for exactly this task.
Unfortunately, LO does not have any equivalent.
--
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Wolfgang, Forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You wrote: In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens of others, LaTeX or anything that outputs structured XML) use nestable open- and close-tags, while Word and LO/OO don't. I've created my own paragraph styles, and I have one called BodySingle. It's just a single-spaced body of text with no paragraph indents. When I create a document in WordPerfect (an old Version 7) and look at a document in reveal codes, I get a code that says, for example, Para Style: BodySingle before each paragraph that has BodySingle applied to it and the same code at the end of each paragraph with that style. When I look at a similar document in LO's content.xml file, I see text:p text:style-name=BodySingle before each BodySingle paragraph and a /text:p at the end of each paragraph. The only real difference I see is that LO ends each paragraph with a more generic tag /text:p: with no specific reference to the applied style whereas WordPerfect ends each paragraph with a specific reference to the applied style. Is that the distinction you're making between the two methods, and if so, how does that matter? Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Wolfgang, You also wrote: The style concept of both Word and LO/OO however is so severely screwed up that I've never ever seen a document that would have allowed to re-use content in any other way (within the same application!) than by copying and pasting it as unformatted text and then re-applying all the formatting by hand. If I understand you correctly (and I'm not at all certain I do), I think I've noticed similar behavior. I've noticed that if I copy and paste text in Word or LO/OO *and* include the closing paragraph marking (¶) then the paragraph formatting will also be pasted, but if I copy text without including the closing paragraph marking, then the text will be pasted using the same paragraph style as the destination paragraph. However, character formatting (bold, italic) is retained in the pasted text. I've never had a problem, as long as I keep the paragraph markings revealed and either select or not select them based on my specific needs at the time. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Need help to translate mdb file in odb
Hello, I have a mdb file and i want to use it with LibreOffice so I need to translate all the macro, form ... for LibreOffice. But i have some difficult to do it. For example, how to concatenate 2 field in my SQL Request. I have tried : - [NAME] + [FIRSTNAME] , ok but i need an espace - [NAME] + + [FIRSTNAME] , doesn't work - LTRIM( coalesce( NAME, '' ) || ' ' || FIRSTNAME ) , doesn't work - NAME || ' ' || FIRSTNAME, doesn't work - CONCAT( [NAME], [FIRSTNAME] ), doesn't work How i can make it ??? Thanks for your help. If someone could help me to translate the file, it would be nice Sincerely, Jean Milot -- Jean Milot - Directeur Technique jmi...@dotriver.eu - www.dotriver.eu 24 b rue Baldassini, F-69007 Lyon Fixe: +33 (0)4 2746 39 80 Direct: # 87 Hotline: # 89 Fax: # 81 Mob: +33 (0)6 68 15 58 17 DotRiver sur Euronews, rubrique hi-tech http://bit.ly/12iDC8h Renouvellement du label Lyon ville équitable et durable http://bit.ly/Rwv5F9 DotRiver, membre du consortium nuage-France http://bit.ly/LNIfMr Pas à pas, agissons au quotidien pour préserver notre environnement. N'imprimez que si nécessaire, réduisez vos déchets informatiques, économisez l'énergie en utilisant les solutions DotRiver. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need help to translate mdb file in odb
Jean The Concat() function would be Concat(Name, ' ', Firstname) the column names are not in brackets in standard SQL. This will work with MySQL/MariaDB - I am copying it out a book. For the second line [NAME] + + [FIRSTNAME] try [NAME] + ' ' + [FIRSTNAME] often ' are used to denote a string not . On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:33:31 -0400, Jean Milot jmi...@dotriver.eu wrote: Hello, I have a mdb file and i want to use it with LibreOffice so I need to translate all the macro, form ... for LibreOffice. But i have some difficult to do it. For example, how to concatenate 2 field in my SQL Request. I have tried : - [NAME] + [FIRSTNAME] , ok but i need an espace - [NAME] + + [FIRSTNAME] , doesn't work - LTRIM( coalesce( NAME, '' ) || ' ' || FIRSTNAME ) , doesn't work - NAME || ' ' || FIRSTNAME, doesn't work - CONCAT( [NAME], [FIRSTNAME] ), doesn't work How i can make it ??? Thanks for your help. If someone could help me to translate the file, it would be nice Sincerely, Jean Milot -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need help to translate mdb file in odb
Hi :) Jean is not yet fully registered so please CC his address in all replies. Also i think my email address got compromised so i have changed my password but if i sent any emails in the last hour or so please just delete them. The last legit one i sent to this list was over 12hours ago. Regards from Tom :) From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013, 1:35 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need help to translate mdb file in odb Jean The Concat() function would be Concat(Name, ' ', Firstname) the column names are not in brackets in standard SQL. This will work with MySQL/MariaDB - I am copying it out a book. For the second line [NAME] + + [FIRSTNAME] try [NAME] + ' ' + [FIRSTNAME] often ' are used to denote a string not . On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:33:31 -0400, Jean Milot jmi...@dotriver.eu wrote: Hello, I have a mdb file and i want to use it with LibreOffice so I need to translate all the macro, form ... for LibreOffice. But i have some difficult to do it. For example, how to concatenate 2 field in my SQL Request. I have tried : - [NAME] + [FIRSTNAME] , ok but i need an espace - [NAME] + + [FIRSTNAME] , doesn't work - LTRIM( coalesce( NAME, '' ) || ' ' || FIRSTNAME ) , doesn't work - NAME || ' ' || FIRSTNAME, doesn't work - CONCAT( [NAME], [FIRSTNAME] ), doesn't work How i can make it ??? Thanks for your help. If someone could help me to translate the file, it would be nice Sincerely, Jean Milot -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ?
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote: thank you -- Two things here. 1). I did manage to get this into rtf by using the commandodt2rtf Waves_edited.odt and I did this on a number of files. So, the urgency of the problem is solved, or at least is no longer urgent, but the theoretical issue is still interesting (to me). 2). Since this is a literary journal, albeit a small local one, and the original works are not mine, I don't fee free to upload any of the plays/poems/etc. Someone else mentioned that LO has the save as rtf. I don't understand why, but here's another puzzle: we have two computers running suse 12.3. This one that I'm using right now has that save as option. The other computer does not, and the other computer is the one with the files on it. Of course I could move the files from that computer to this one, but I didn't realize that this one had that option until someone here (Tim?) suggested it, so I went to the other compter (this one) and looked. Both machines are running suse 12.3 with LO Version 3.6:build-304 so I have no idea why one shows .rtf option and the other does not. Thanks for the responses. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) Could you email me the doc and an odt version? I might be able to have a look on a few different machines tomorrow and maybe see what's up. Hmm, it might be better to use Nabble to upload it so everyone can see it as i might forget or run out of time, or just not wake up until the day after! I am curious tho. Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Helen etter...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Friday, 12 July 2013, 2:18 *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ? I agreed to edit (one time only) a local literary magazine comeing out soon. I have saved each of the documents (plays, poetry, etc.) and edited in LibreOffice. Before sending the files to the publisher, I've been saving them to .doc. The publisher emails to say that all the documents have weird formatting and strange characters. He wants to know if I can send the files to him in .rft (rich text) format. I don't see that as an option in the save as menu. Is there a way I can do this -- convert the .odt files to .rtf? Using LibreOffice on Suse Linux. Thanks all, -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ?
Helen, You can exercise a bit of flexibility via tools-customize. This lets you disable save as but it doesn't go as far as removing the options of what you can save as. One of the common solutions suggested when strange things are happening is to delete your profile. I gather a new profile is created the first time you crank up LO after the deletion. I am loathe to delete anything which I am not sure about however this may give you a start. Cheers On 07/13/2013 12:00 PM, Helen wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote: thank you -- Two things here. 1). I did manage to get this into rtf by using the commandodt2rtf Waves_edited.odt and I did this on a number of files. So, the urgency of the problem is solved, or at least is no longer urgent, but the theoretical issue is still interesting (to me). 2). Since this is a literary journal, albeit a small local one, and the original works are not mine, I don't fee free to upload any of the plays/poems/etc. Someone else mentioned that LO has the save as rtf. I don't understand why, but here's another puzzle: we have two computers running suse 12.3. This one that I'm using right now has that save as option. The other computer does not, and the other computer is the one with the files on it. Of course I could move the files from that computer to this one, but I didn't realize that this one had that option until someone here (Tim?) suggested it, so I went to the other compter (this one) and looked. Both machines are running suse 12.3 with LO Version 3.6:build-304 so I have no idea why one shows .rtf option and the other does not. Thanks for the responses. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) Could you email me the doc and an odt version? I might be able to have a look on a few different machines tomorrow and maybe see what's up. Hmm, it might be better to use Nabble to upload it so everyone can see it as i might forget or run out of time, or just not wake up until the day after! I am curious tho. Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Helen etter...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Friday, 12 July 2013, 2:18 *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] .odt to .rtf ? I agreed to edit (one time only) a local literary magazine comeing out soon. I have saved each of the documents (plays, poetry, etc.) and edited in LibreOffice. Before sending the files to the publisher, I've been saving them to .doc. The publisher emails to say that all the documents have weird formatting and strange characters. He wants to know if I can send the files to him in .rft (rich text) format. I don't see that as an option in the save as menu. Is there a way I can do this -- convert the .odt files to .rtf? Using LibreOffice on Suse Linux. Thanks all, -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
