[libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?

2013-07-18 Thread Tanstaafl
Is it possible to have a cell on one worksheet that references a cell on 
another worksheet to also reflect the FORMAT of the referenced cell? Ie, 
if the referenced cell has a red background, the cell referencing it 
should also have a red background?


Thanks

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[libreoffice-users] Calc - allow users to format cells on protected sheets

2013-07-18 Thread Tanstaafl

Hello,

Microsoft Excel has the ability to allow users to apply formatting 
changes to protected cells when a sheet is protected.


Is there any possible way to do this in Calc?

Thanks

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB 5.5.32 now available

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
For those interested in trying to move away from Oracle's MySql this drop in 
replacement might be worth looking at as long as you are not using a Mac!
Regard from 

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[libreoffice-users] Creating a good looking document with videos in it

2013-07-18 Thread frank ernest
Hi,
I wanted to create a document that containes videos as a help manual but 
libreoffice can't place them in html or pdf format as a resualt if I 
redistribute the doc the end user will open it up in libreoffice and all the 
tecnical terms will turn red (if spell check is enabled,) the vidios will be 
movable the text editable (by acciden or on purpose,) and the links you will 
have to ctrl click in order to follow, etc.
I wanted a finished kind of look like an html page or a pdf page.
How do I do this?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Upgrading LO to 4.0.x sounds like a good plan, as does 
File - Export to Pdf 
and then print the Pdf through whatever you view Pdfs with.  

Errr i only had a go on 1 Macbook once and i wasn't able to fully explore it.  
it was quite a big deal for me as it's been about a decade since i last used a 
Mac.  I have seen quite a few people on these mailing lists deal with Mac 
issues and documentation is pretty good at providing a conversion table to deal 
with a couple of issues.  So i listen to other people and copypaste parts of 
their previous answers if it seems appropriate.  These lists are great for 
learning tons of useful stuff or just increasing understanding general 
understanding.  

As Tim said Mac is kinda a brother or sister of GnuLinux so advice based on 
one might help with the other but there are some odd differences between the 
platforms.  

The main problem seemed to be that because the drivers were built-in to OS X 
10.5 it's very difficult to get hold of a package that is just the driver or 
installer.  However, i think the op has found 3 drivers that are almost right 
but just not quite there.  Perhaps upgrading LO might help them.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 5:03
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet
 


For now, as a big work around. . .
Do you have luck printing a PDF file to the HP 960?  If so, then just 
export to PDF and print that file.  That will work till we get the 
direct printing from LO issue fixed.  For the longest time, that was 
what I did to print a duplex document on the Epson printer.


Do you have the ability to use the OSX 10.5 driver?  Or the more generic 
10.1.5 to 10.4.x driver?

HP has those drivers on their web site for download.

I am not a Mac person, but since it is sort of a Linux-like OS
[do not tell me how it is not a Linux OS, since I am using a generic 
comparison]
then there must be a way to install this older driver and use it.

I know that for Linux and Windows, drivers for earlier version of the OS 
can work, most times, when there is no newer version for the newer OS.  
I have used 10.04 and 11.x drivers for my Ubuntu system when there has 
not been one made for my 12.04 version of the OS.  Actually I have done 
that with several packages.  So I am hoping that the 10.5.x driver would 
work on a 10.7 OSX, since there is none listed for 10.6 or 10.7.

Also, LO 3.4.1 may not be the best version for your needs.  I had a lot 
of trouble with dialogs and duplex printing till the 3.6.x line.  I use 
4.0.4.2 on a Linux system at this time.  So it is possible for you to 
download and install the 3.6.6 version or the 4.0.4 version for OSX and 
see if some of your dialog issues are fixed.

To get duplex working on all my duplexing printers [HP laser, Canon 
inkjet, and Epson inkjet] I had to check the use LO dialog option for 
the print dialogs.  That was listed as an option for Linux but did not 
show up for the Windows version.  So I would expect that the OSX version 
might have some different dialog options.  Before I found that Linux 
only option, no one could figure out how to get my Epson printer to 
duplex when my HP laser would.  Now I have a Canon inkjet and the check 
box option works with that duplexing printer as well.

I know that Tom is a Linux person, but he has access to Mac systems, so 
he may know some OSX specific option, but I have used 3 duplexing 
printer and I know what works for me.




On 07/16/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 2 approaches to fix this, i've not thought about which should be number 1

 1.  To use the LO dialogues ...  When the printer dialogue-box pops-up note 
 there are 4 tabs at the top.  On the 1st tab you should see a list of all 
 the printers installed.  Select the Hp 960 but instead of printing click on 
 the Properties button.  It's just under the list.  The Properties pop-up 
 also has a couple of tabs.  The 1st should be Paper.  Duplex is about the 
 4h drop-down.  Long-edge for Portrait but Short-edge for landscape.  My boss 
 can never figure out that short-edge refers to the shortest edge of the 
 paper, or perhaps he is just being kind.

 2.  To change to normal dialogues ...
 LibreOffice - Preferences - General - Print dialogues - UNtick the 
 tick-box that says Use LO dialogues.

 Errr, are you sure that duplex is installed?  When you install the driver it 
 should ask you if you want duplex to be included.  It might do it 
 automatically.
 Regards from
 Tom :)





 
 From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 22:29
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet


 Fellow LibreOffice users -

 I am running LO on a Mac, OSx 10.7.5 and the printer is a HP 960C Deskjet.
 There are no native OSx drivers for 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think all of us here are on roughly the same side.  It's just a case of 
trying to work out what works when and what doesn't.  I haven't had a huge 
amount of success in converting MS users to LO.  

People seem to prefer sticking with broken mangled systems that don't do what 
they want rather than risk change.  The more broken the system the more they 
resist change.  Hence IE6 users being scared to death of trying anything else
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 12:30
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
 

Hi,

 Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems ..
Well, as Tom says, I don't think it's usefull to just say Get a new
browser. Also, if the certificate is actually wrong, then it should be
corrected, there really is no good reason it should be wrong, and
switching browsers to not have to see the error is not a real solution.
That said...

  ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a
  certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org?
That's maybe ever so slightly harsh. I just checked in Firefox,
and the certificate for https://www.libreoffice.org has a certificate
with a CN for www.libreoffice.org, so I'm not sure what the problem
is... unless of course they've already fixed it.

Just sayin'

Paul


On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:05:07 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I kinda agree but even though IE has recently become a minority share
 of the web-browser market it is still used by quite a lot of people.
 Usually those people are clueless about the alternatives and/or seem
 to think they are using a superior product because they haven't
 really tried anything else.  There's a LOT of them and we don't want
 to cut them out of our potential market.  Telling them they have to
 change web-browser just to use LO just gives them an extra reason not
 to bother trying LO.  It just makes yet another artificial barrier
 and increases the FUD.  
 
 Something that does seem to surprise people and encourage them to
 install LO is that they can have both LO and MSO on their system.  A
 dismaying number of people wont dare try LO because they think they
 have to get rid of their MSO.  Similarly with web-browsers of course
 but that is not our fight.  
 
 I'm credited with having written the 2nd paragraph below but it
 really wasn't me 1.  Most of the web developers i know are ladies
 2.  If i had thought of it i would have written directly to the
 Websites List to ask them if they could do it. probably the only
 reason it might not have been done already is that they are a small
 team and are still working on it.  However, i doubt that IE 9 needs a
 different certificate from IE 8 or that certificates made for IE 8
 are incompatible with IE 9.  It's always possible, of course,
 especially if it could make things difficult for LO without affecting
 too many other people.  
 
 Most of the people on tis list probably are already using Firefox,
 Chrome, the Mac one, Opera or some other non-MS web-browser.  We need
 to catch more people that haven't tried the others yet and maybe be
 their gateway into OpenSource.  
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 7:29
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
  
 
 On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:05:57 +0700
 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Tom Davies:
  
  Note that IE is made by a 3rd party competitor that has good reason
  to want to see LibreOffice (and all other OpenSource products)
  fail. The more they can do to discredit LibreOffice the more
  likely they are to sell more of their own product and make more
  money.  So, if IE doesn't behave we might not be able to  do
  anything about it.
  
  ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a
  certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org? 
  
  
  
 
 Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems ..
 
 Pete .
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Some content in ODP slide appears only in slide show view of Impress, not in normal view or PDF output

2013-07-18 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Sorry you haven't received many replies to this yet!  You could upload the
files to Nabble so that people can see them and see the problem.  It's not
as tough as it sounds!  

Just use the links in this email or navigate to the right thread through the
official site
Get help - Nabble - then look for the same subject-line that you wrote

Start posting a reply and notice that above where you are typing-in there
are some buttons such as More.  The More one has Upload a file as it's
top option.  Then it's just the same as adding an attachment to an email. 
It has the same sort of browse thing.  Once done all you see is a line of
html code added into your reply.  You can move that link around to position
it better if you want.  

Btw have you tried upgrading to 4.0.something?  Have you had time to try the
3.6.7 that has just been released?  

Regards from 
Tom :)  


Dan-2 wrote
 I have some ODP-format slides 
 which appear correctly when I view them with the [F5] slide show view in
 Impress, but in which some content is missing when I view them in the 
 normal view, and when I export to PDF.  Any ideas why this might be, and
 how I can get a PDF in which all the content appears correctly, please?
 
 I've attached a minimal(ish) example.  My apologies if attachments violate
 the netiquette of this list.
 
 (BTW, this is all happening in LibreOffice 3.6.6.2 under Windows 7.)
 
 
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 Kind regards,
 
 Dan





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[libreoffice-users] Kerning issue with LIbreOffice 4 and Helvetica font

2013-07-18 Thread pfrost
In LibreOffice 4.1.0.1, if I open a document containing Helvetica font and
export to PDF, the Helvetica font has horrible kerning--almost all spaces
between words are removed, making the PDF very difficult to read. If I open
the same document in LibreOffice 3.4.5, it exports to PDF just fine--spaces
between words are easy to identify making the quote easy to read.Is this a
known issue with LibreOffice 4? Is there a simple fix?I'm attaching a sample
doc which contains Helvetica font and the resulting PDF.Best regards,Patrick
Frost test.doc http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4066062/test.doc  
test.pdf http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4066062/test.pdf  



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[libreoffice-users] Kerning issue with LIbreOffice 4 and Helvetica font

2013-07-18 Thread Patrick Frost
In LibreOffice 4.1.0.1, if I open a document containing Helvetica font and 
export to PDF, the Helvetica font has horrible kerning--almost all spaces 
between words are removed, making the PDF very difficult to read. If I open the 
same document in LibreOffice 3.4.5, it exports to PDF just fine--spaces between 
words are easy to identify making the quote easy to read. 

Is this a known issue with LibreOffice 4? Is there a simple fix? 

I'm attaching a sample doc which contains Helvetica font and the resulting PDF. 

Best regards, 
Patrick Frost 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Kerning issue with LIbreOffice 4 and Helvetica font

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
4.1.0 is very early on in that branches life-cycle.  I typically wait for the 
x.x.4 rather than the x.x.0.  Can you post a bug-report about it and get back 
to 4.0.3 or something?  I still have a lot of machines on around 3.5.4 but 
3.6.x is better.  I meant to upgrade all machines to 4.0.4 (or something) today 
but never quite got around to doing anything i'd planned for today!
Regard from 
Tom :)  






 From: pfrost pfr...@redhat.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 19:17
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Kerning issue with LIbreOffice 4 and Helvetica 
font
 

In LibreOffice 4.1.0.1, if I open a document containing Helvetica font and
export to PDF, the Helvetica font has horrible kerning--almost all spaces
between words are removed, making the PDF very difficult to read. If I open
the same document in LibreOffice 3.4.5, it exports to PDF just fine--spaces
between words are easy to identify making the quote easy to read.Is this a
known issue with LibreOffice 4? Is there a simple fix?I'm attaching a sample
doc which contains Helvetica font and the resulting PDF.Best regards,Patrick
Frost test.doc http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4066062/test.doc  
test.pdf http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4066062/test.pdf  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating a good looking document with videos in it

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Are you using Impress to make the document?  Impress might be the best tool for 
the job.  

Alternatively could you create the document, save as html and then edit the 
html coding?  That sounds a bit messy.  I tend to write html in a text-editor 
to avoid all the added extras other programs throw in but i haven't tried 
putting videos in.  Can't imagine it's much different from adding a photo or 
logo though?

Errr, i started with Notepad which was a bit of a pain but the normal 
text-editors in GnuLinux colour-code the coding which makes it easier.  I 
think SciTE and Notepad++ (available in Windows) do colour-coding too.  Of 
course the colours are calculated rather than being hidden codes in the 
document.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: frank ernest do...@mail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 18:32
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Creating a good looking document with videos in it
 

Hi,
I wanted to create a document that containes videos as a help manual but 
libreoffice can't place them in html or pdf format as a resualt if I 
redistribute the doc the end user will open it up in libreoffice and all the 
tecnical terms will turn red (if spell check is enabled,) the vidios will be 
movable the text editable (by acciden or on purpose,) and the links you will 
have to ctrl click in order to follow, etc.
I wanted a finished kind of look like an html page or a pdf page.
How do I do this?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think we had a thread about this maybe 6months-1year ago?  I think the 
up-shot was that it's not possible and maybe better to have a 2nd column to 
indicate colour.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 15:53
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?
 

Is it possible to have a cell on one worksheet that references a cell on 
another worksheet to also reflect the FORMAT of the referenced cell? Ie, 
if the referenced cell has a red background, the cell referencing it 
should also have a red background?

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Português e mailing list

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Good answer, i think :)  Has this helped?  

Orlando?  Have you found the right place?
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Daniel A. Rodriguez daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 22:26
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Português e mailing list
 

2013/7/17 Orlando Figueiredo orlandofigueir...@pensatempos.net

 Hi,
 Does anyone know ir there is a discution group for libreoffice Portugal.
 O.

Take a look at the wiki page for Local Mailing Lists

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Portugu.C3.AAs



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Kerning issue with LIbreOffice 4 and Helvetica font

2013-07-18 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Sorry, attachments get taken off before emails are sent out to everyone. 
Otherwise people using limited dial-ups and strict caps might get annoyed.  

You can upload files to Nabble and then people can choose to see it if they
want to.  The upload option is on the More  button
Regards from 
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[libreoffice-users] Base PostgreSQL Transactions

2013-07-18 Thread Don Parris
Hi all,

I have a 4-table DB in PostgreSQL to which I connect using LibreOffice
Base.  I have a form with 2 subforms in place that allows me to:
Select an existing entity (from the ENTITY table)
Add a new financial transaction (to the TRANSREC table)
Add new line items for each transaction (to the TRANSDETAILS table).

I would like to take advantage of PostGRESQL's underlying transaction
(start, rollback, commit, etc.) to ensure that a given transaction and its
line items are entered as one single transaction.  I just don't know how to
implement that using Base as a front-end.

Maybe I really need something like macros and BASIC or Python to make such
a thing work?  If anyone knows a good tutorial on this subject, I can
certainly read - just haven't really found anything yet.


Thanks!
Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base PostgreSQL Transactions

2013-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If you are looking for a good guide about Macros then Andrew Pitonyak's guide 
is supposedly the best
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers
Apparently it is well worth the money but you might want to have a quick look 
at the official guides for free first.  Andrew wrote most of the chapters about 
Macros in those too as a first step into understanding Macros

So, start with Chapter 9 of the Getting Started Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice
Maybe have a look at Chapter 12 in the Calc Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Calc_Guide
because spreadsheets and databases share some common ground i suspect.  Also 
this whole handbook might be helpful!!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook

Note that the entire Base Handbook has been updated for the 4.0.x branch of 
LibreOffice already even though individual chapters were not done separately.  
If you want the separate chapters you can always get the almost identical ones 
for the 3.5-3.6 branches.  

I'm not entirely sure any of this helps you but hopefully others will appear 
later to let you know if you really do need macros.  Obviously Python is a more 
useful language once you have gotten to grips with it but Basic might be easier 
to learn
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Don Parris parri...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 21:05
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Base  PostgreSQL Transactions
 

Hi all,

I have a 4-table DB in PostgreSQL to which I connect using LibreOffice
Base.  I have a form with 2 subforms in place that allows me to:
Select an existing entity (from the ENTITY table)
Add a new financial transaction (to the TRANSREC table)
Add new line items for each transaction (to the TRANSDETAILS table).

I would like to take advantage of PostGRESQL's underlying transaction
(start, rollback, commit, etc.) to ensure that a given transaction and its
line items are entered as one single transaction.  I just don't know how to
implement that using Base as a front-end.

Maybe I really need something like macros and BASIC or Python to make such
a thing work?  If anyone knows a good tutorial on this subject, I can
certainly read - just haven't really found anything yet.


Thanks!
Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - allow users to format cells on protected sheets

2013-07-18 Thread Dave Liesse
Depends on where you open it.  If I double-click an email attachment to 
open it, I can't make any changes at all (not even column width).  Once 
I save it to my hard drive, it becomes unprotected.


I think what the OP is referring to is that in Excel you can do whatever 
you want to a protected spreadsheet -- you just can't save the changes.  
Thus, you can do a lot of what if analysis but can't mess up someone 
else's work.


Dave


On 7/18/2013 11:44, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think if you open an Excel spreadsheet that is supposedly protected in Calc 
then you bypass all the password protections and stuff.

My company's (well the place where i work, it's not really mine as such) 
finance lady was somewhat horrified when i was easily able to fix a problem for 
her despite having no idea what the password was.  I hadn't even realised the 
spreadsheet was supposedly protected!
Regards from
Tom:)







From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 15:47
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Calc - allow users to format cells on protected 
sheets


Hello,

Microsoft Excel has the ability to allow users to apply formatting
changes to protected cells when a sheet is protected.

Is there any possible way to do this in Calc?

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Benford's Law

2013-07-18 Thread Toki Kantoor
On 07/15/2013 12:42 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

 don't stop being what they are after some arbitrary number of
 significant figures - whether it be one, three, or any other.  

At the fourth significant digit, 0 and 9 occur slightly (¿1:10,000?)
more frequently than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. For most practical
purposes, the fourth digit can be treated as a uniformly random number.
At the fifth, and subsequent digits, the numbers are randomly, and
uniformly distributed.

 If you want values that follow Benford's Law up to three digits, you can
 easily take the true values from my suggested formula, truncate (or
 round?) them after three digits, and add further random digits selected
 from a uniform distribution.

And my original post was asking what happened to the macro that
automatically did that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet

2013-07-18 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
I have LO 4.1 dev build on a macbook pro 10.6.8 (I think) and can print 
duplex to a Brother 2040D and an HP C410.


Steve
On 2013-07-19 05:37, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Upgrading LO to 4.0.x sounds like a good plan, as does
File - Export to Pdf
and then print the Pdf through whatever you view Pdfs with.

Errr i only had a go on 1 Macbook once and i wasn't able to fully explore it.  it 
was quite a big deal for me as it's been about a decade since i last used a Mac.  I 
have seen quite a few people on these mailing lists deal with Mac issues and 
documentation is pretty good at providing a conversion table to deal with a couple 
of issues.  So i listen to other people and copypaste parts of their previous 
answers if it seems appropriate.  These lists are great for learning tons of useful 
stuff or just increasing understanding general understanding.

As Tim said Mac is kinda a brother or sister of GnuLinux so advice based on 
one might help with the other but there are some odd differences between the 
platforms.

The main problem seemed to be that because the drivers were built-in to OS X 
10.5 it's very difficult to get hold of a package that is just the driver or 
installer.  However, i think the op has found 3 drivers that are almost right 
but just not quite there.  Perhaps upgrading LO might help them.
Regards from
Tom :)







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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 5:03
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet



For now, as a big work around. . .
Do you have luck printing a PDF file to the HP 960?  If so, then just
export to PDF and print that file.  That will work till we get the
direct printing from LO issue fixed.  For the longest time, that was
what I did to print a duplex document on the Epson printer.


Do you have the ability to use the OSX 10.5 driver?  Or the more generic
10.1.5 to 10.4.x driver?

HP has those drivers on their web site for download.

I am not a Mac person, but since it is sort of a Linux-like OS
[do not tell me how it is not a Linux OS, since I am using a generic
comparison]
then there must be a way to install this older driver and use it.

I know that for Linux and Windows, drivers for earlier version of the OS
can work, most times, when there is no newer version for the newer OS.
I have used 10.04 and 11.x drivers for my Ubuntu system when there has
not been one made for my 12.04 version of the OS.  Actually I have done
that with several packages.  So I am hoping that the 10.5.x driver would
work on a 10.7 OSX, since there is none listed for 10.6 or 10.7.

Also, LO 3.4.1 may not be the best version for your needs.  I had a lot
of trouble with dialogs and duplex printing till the 3.6.x line.  I use
4.0.4.2 on a Linux system at this time.  So it is possible for you to
download and install the 3.6.6 version or the 4.0.4 version for OSX and
see if some of your dialog issues are fixed.

To get duplex working on all my duplexing printers [HP laser, Canon
inkjet, and Epson inkjet] I had to check the use LO dialog option for
the print dialogs.  That was listed as an option for Linux but did not
show up for the Windows version.  So I would expect that the OSX version
might have some different dialog options.  Before I found that Linux
only option, no one could figure out how to get my Epson printer to
duplex when my HP laser would.  Now I have a Canon inkjet and the check
box option works with that duplexing printer as well.

I know that Tom is a Linux person, but he has access to Mac systems, so
he may know some OSX specific option, but I have used 3 duplexing
printer and I know what works for me.




On 07/16/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
2 approaches to fix this, i've not thought about which should be number 1

1.  To use the LO dialogues ...  When the printer dialogue-box pops-up note there are 4 tabs at the top.  On 
the 1st tab you should see a list of all the printers installed.  Select the Hp 960 but instead of printing 
click on the Properties button.  It's just under the list.  The Properties pop-up 
also has a couple of tabs.  The 1st should be Paper.  Duplex is about the 4h drop-down.  
Long-edge for Portrait but Short-edge for landscape.  My boss can never figure out that short-edge refers to 
the shortest edge of the paper, or perhaps he is just being kind.

2.  To change to normal dialogues ...
LibreOffice - Preferences - General - Print dialogues - UNtick the tick-box that says 
Use LO dialogues.

Errr, are you sure that duplex is installed?  When you install the driver it 
should ask you if you want duplex to be included.  It might do it automatically.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 22:29
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet


Fellow LibreOffice users -

I am running 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Base PostgreSQL Transactions

2013-07-18 Thread Don Parris
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 If you are looking for a good guide about Macros then Andrew Pitonyak's
 guide is supposedly the best

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers
 Apparently it is well worth the money but you might want to have a quick
 look at the official guides for free first.  Andrew wrote most of the
 chapters about Macros in those too as a first step into understanding Macros

 So, start with Chapter 9 of the Getting Started Guide

 SNIP


 I'm not entirely sure any of this helps you but hopefully others will
 appear later to let you know if you really do need macros.  Obviously
 Python is a more useful language once you have gotten to grips with it but
 Basic might be easier to learn
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 Thanks Tom, yes I have been reading over the official guides, but haven't
really found anything pertaining to my question so far, hence my asking
here.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?

2013-07-18 Thread Errol Goetsch

Is it possible to have a cell on one worksheet that references a cell on
another worksheet to also reflect the FORMAT of the referenced cell? Ie,
if the referenced cell has a red background, the cell referencing it
should also have a red background?

Yes, using conditional formats.
First create format styles with F11, then tell the cell to apply the 
format appropriate to the value of a referenced cell.


In the example at 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6LXy9sguZVkVDdMMXh3Y1dhQWs/edit?usp=sharing
c2 - n2 are months Jan to Dec, b3 - b12 are 10 salespersons and c3 - n12 
are their monthly sales. We want to use colours to quickly see who sold 
the most and least each month.
c15 - n15 show the min sales in each column (and are formatted white on 
red. This is per style named Min)
c17 - n17 show the max sales in each column (and are formatted white on 
blue. This is per style named Max)


In the conditional formatting for each cell c3 - n12,
1. apply style Min if the cell contents = cell in row 15 and
2. apply style Max if the cell = row 17.

What you achieve is 2 cells in each column automatically turning red or 
blue if they match other cells based on their value, allowing high or 
low achievers to be immediately recognised.


Hope this helps.
Errol




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[libreoffice-users] Calc SYLK support error?

2013-07-18 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

I was reading the SYLK entry in Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYmbolic_LinK_%28SYLK%29

and came across the following short SYLK file content:

ID;P
C;Y1;X1;KRow 1
C;Y2;X1;KRow 2
C;Y3;X1;KTotal
C;Y1;X2;K11
C;Y2;X2;K22
C;Y3;X2;K0;ER1C2+R2C2
E

which I copied and pasted into a UTF-8 text file with newline line 
endings named test.slk.


I loaded test.slk into two builds of LibreOffice Calc:

- Version 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on GNU/Linux 64-bit
- Version 4.0.4.2 (Build ID: 9e9821abd0ffdbc09cd8c52eaa574fa09eb08f2) on 
Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit


Both systems had all OS updates installed as of the time/date on this email.

I expected to get what the Wikipedia page described -- a table with two 
columns, three rows, and one sum:


Row 1|11
Row 2|22
Total|33

but instead I get the following on both aforementioned Calc versions in 
both OSes:


Row 1|11
Row 2|22
Total|0

(I'm using | to show where the cell ends/starts, not that theres a 
literal vertical bar anywhere in the SYLK file or Calc output)


I'm seeing the K value for Y3;X2; (from the penultimate line of my SYLK 
file) instead of the computed value 33.


Also, when I focus the cell in column 2 row 3 in both versions of Calc 
listed above I do not see the formula R1C2+R2C2. This formula is clearly 
specified in the SYLK file. I don't see any formula in this cell at all.


Is this because Calc's SYLK support is broken or is something else going on?

When I load my SYLK file into Gnumeric 1.10.17 on GNU/Linux I see 0 in 
the same position (column 2 row 3) but I also see the formula 
(=$B$1+$B$2) and when I recalculate the spreadsheet I get the 33 I 
expect. Thus, Gnumeric isn't recalculating on load but that's okay 
because no data is lost.


Per https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport I've searched 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=calc+sylk but found 
only 2 bugs neither of which seem applicable so I'm asking on this 
mailing list before filing a bug of my own against Calc.


Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - allow users to format cells on protected sheets

2013-07-18 Thread Errol Goetsch

On 2013/07/18 04:47 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
  Hello,
  Microsoft Excel has the ability to allow users to apply formatting  
changes to protected cells when a sheet is protected.

  Is there any possible way to do this in Calc?
  Thanks

Yes, using conditional formats. Protecting the cell _and_ the sheet 
together normally locks out all changes, but a conditional format can 
override both and unlock the cell (but not for formats alone).


In the example at 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6LXy9sguZVkeE8wTFgyZ2JQcW8/edit?usp=sharing
1. d2 and d3 are both Format Cells|Cell Protection|Protected (this is to 
show that locked cells can be opened)
2. c2 and c3 are both Format Cells|Cell Protection|unprotected (this is 
to change their value so as to trigger the condition)

3. sheet Protect is Tools|Protect Document|Sheet|Select unprotected cells
4. 2 styles exist; Protect, which is red background and cell 
protected, and Unprotect which is blue background and not.
5. d2 and d3 also have conditional formats. so that when the adjacent 
cell is a particular value (here 1), the Protect style applies, when the 
cell is not 1, the Unprotect style applies.


The effect of this is that when c3 = 1 (or some password of your 
choice), d3 can be selected|format changed even though the sheet and d3 
are protected.
This way achieves the intended result, with the possibly unintended 
result of opening d3's value to change as well, which undoes the 
intention of protection.
A half-way is to use conditional formatting to switch automatically 
between styles based on pre-set criteria, giving visual diversity 
without creating edit risk.


PS In this example, the trigger value is transparent when the cell is 
unlocked (the user can see the conditional formatting formula), but you 
can make the trigger refer offsheet to a value the user can't see.

Hope this helps
Errol




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc SYLK support error?

2013-07-18 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:52 18/07/2013 -0500, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
I was reading the SYLK entry in Wikipedia: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYmbolic_LinK_%28SYLK%29 ...


I know nothing about this - but did you notice in the Wikipedia 
article *Variants of* the format are supported by [...] 
OpenOffice.org, ... (my emphasis)?



and came across the following short SYLK file content:

ID;P
C;Y1;X1;KRow 1
C;Y2;X1;KRow 2
C;Y3;X1;KTotal
C;Y1;X2;K11
C;Y2;X2;K22
C;Y3;X2;K0;ER1C2+R2C2
E

which I copied and pasted into a UTF-8 text file with newline line 
endings named test.slk.  I loaded test.slk into two builds of 
LibreOffice Calc: ... .  I expected to get what the Wikipedia page 
described -- a table with two columns, three rows, and one sum:


Row 1|11
Row 2|22
Total|33

but instead I get ...

[...]
Total|0

Also, when I focus the cell in column 2 row 3 in both versions of 
Calc listed above I do not see the formula R1C2+R2C2. This formula 
is clearly specified in the SYLK file. I don't see any formula in 
this cell at all.  Is this because Calc's SYLK support is broken or 
is something else going on?


Your sample file uses the R1C1 numbered-row-and-column method of 
referencing cells, which you probably know Calc does not 
support.  Since Calc will save a spreadsheet sheet in its version of 
SYLK format, it is a fairly simple job to see what works.  You need 
to change the cell references in the formula to the 
column-letter-and-row-number form.  It appears that Calc also needs 
its name on the first line.  Try this:


ID;PSCALC3
C;X1;Y1;KRow 1
C;X1;Y2;KRow 2
C;X1;Y3;KTotal
C;X2;Y1;K11
C;X2;Y2;K22
C;X2;Y3;K0;EB1+B2
E

Will you need CALC4 instead for one of your versions?

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Benford's Law

2013-07-18 Thread Brian Barker

At 21:03 18/07/2013 +, Toki Jonathan Kantoor wrote:

On 07/15/2013 12:42 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
... don't stop being what they are after some 
arbitrary number of significant figures - 
whether it be one, three, or any other.


At the fourth significant digit, 0 and 9 occur 
slightly (¿1:10,000?) more frequently than 1, 2, 
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. For most practical 
purposes, the fourth digit can be treated as a 
uniformly random number. At the fifth, and 
subsequent digits, the numbers are randomly, and uniformly distributed.


It's surely intuitively obvious that this cannot 
be so.  The first digits are very non-uniformly 
distributed, the second ones less so, and so 
on.  What your source is telling you is that the 
fourth digit is very, very nearly uniformly 
distributed and that subsequent digits are so 
nearly so that they may be considered so for all 
practical purposes - not that they really are.  (That would be wrong.)


In any case, if the formula I suggested works 
(and we've seen plenty of evidence that it does 
and none that it doesn't - but I'm still open to 
correction), then according to your theory it 
*will* provide such uniformly distributed digits 
after the fourth.  You've already got what you 
want: the problem appears to be that you cannot 
believe the distribution will turn out the way 
that you say it will!  It's irrational of you to 
suggest removing one set of digits that you claim 
are already uniformly distributed and replacing 
them with another also uniformly distributed 
set!  And if there were any difference, how many 
variates would you have to call upon before any 
difference would be noticeable?  Billions of 
billions of billions?!  More than you are going to use, at any rate.


If you want values that follow Benford's Law up 
to three digits, you can easily take the true 
values from my suggested formula, truncate (or 
round?) them after three digits, and add 
further random digits selected from a uniform distribution.


And my original post was asking what happened to 
the macro that automatically did that.


And you now have an even simpler solution: a 
formula that does it.  But you are very welcome 
not to use it if you don't like it.  Even if you 
wanted to make the irrational change, you could 
easily construct a formula to do this.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?

2013-07-18 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:53 18/07/2013 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
Is it possible to have a cell on one worksheet that references a 
cell on another worksheet to also reflect the FORMAT of the 
referenced cell? Ie, if the referenced cell has a red background, 
the cell referencing it should also have a red background?


If you mean so that you can arbitrarily change the background of the 
target cell and the background of the referencing cell will follow 
suit, I think not: there appears to be no way to test the formatting 
of a cell or to retrieve the formatting details.  At least, you can 
retrieve numeric formatting using the CELL() function, but not other 
aspects of formatting, including background colour.  Unless someone 
knows better.


What you can do, of course, is to set up another column or row in 
which you put suitable values which can then control conditional 
formatting of both the target cell and the referencing one.  To 
change the background of both, you merely need to change the 
controlling values.  These could even be colour names: red, 
green, and so on.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cell references - apply formats too?

2013-07-18 Thread Brian Barker

At 00:52 19/07/2013 +0200, Errol Goetsch wrote:

[Someone asked:]
Is it possible to have a cell on one worksheet that references a 
cell on another worksheet to also reflect the FORMAT of the 
referenced cell? Ie, if the referenced cell has a red background, 
the cell referencing it should also have a red background?


Yes, using conditional formats.
First create format styles with F11, then tell the cell to apply the 
format appropriate to the value of a referenced cell.


In the example at 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6LXy9sguZVkVDdMMXh3Y1dhQWs/edit?usp=sharing
c2 - n2 are months Jan to Dec, b3 - b12 are 10 salespersons and c3 - 
n12 are their monthly sales. We want to use colours to quickly see 
who sold the most and least each month.
c15 - n15 show the min sales in each column (and are formatted white 
on red. This is per style named Min)
c17 - n17 show the max sales in each column (and are formatted white 
on blue. This is per style named Max)


In the conditional formatting for each cell c3 - n12,
1. apply style Min if the cell contents = cell in row 15 and
2. apply style Max if the cell = row 17.

What you achieve is 2 cells in each column automatically turning red 
or blue if they match other cells based on their value, allowing 
high or low achievers to be immediately recognised.


Sorry to be a wet blanket, but this appears to show how the format of 
the destination cell can be made to depend on the value, not the 
format, of another cell.  If I change the format of your Min and Max 
value rows - say to give them green backgrounds - the cells 
highlighted by conditional formatting still appear in red and blue - 
according to your Min and Max cell styles.  It's very pretty and well 
designed and no doubt useful, but it doesn't quite do what I think 
the questioner is asking for.


Brian Barker


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