[libreoffice-users] Re: Including code example in documents
Dear all, Thank for all your suggestion. I use Linux and Notepad++ or NoteTab are available on widows only. I think I'll try the RTF generation option. Thanks again. Éric.. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Including-code-example-in-documents-tp4069680p4069788.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org
Tom, Undoubtedly you post with the best of intentions, but please stop jumping in with confusing misinformation. There are two entirely separate forums: 1. http://www.oooforum.org The independent unofficial one Jim was referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server is at best unreliable and frequently times out. 2. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ The official one Apache inherited from OpenOffice.org which you are referencing. Dave Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it might perform better if you go to the link i gave and do your search from inside their forums. That way you might dodge any links with domains that might have changed. Outside of their forums search engines may still be giving old links. Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Jim Byrnes jf_byr...@comcast.net; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 4:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Hi Jim, I didn't realise this had cropped up before - pretty sad as I logged the first message! I have attached a link to when this was discussed back in February http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/oooforum-org-td4039871.html#a4040074 BTW, link not working for me at present either Cheers On 08/13/2013 01:09 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/12/2013 07:54 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Jim, I don't really use that forum but if you can send the link I will give it a go Cheers On 08/13/2013 10:42 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to oooforum.org or is just me? Been doing a lot of googling trying to figure out how to write some python macros in LO calc and many links lead to posts on oooforum.org. Lately everytime I try one it times out. Regards, Jim I don't use it either, this is a link to an archived post. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=56015#56015 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with eLAIX extension on LibO 4.0
Hi To bad it did not work out for you. I can't see any issue with the way you installed as a shared extension. I usually start LibreOffice as administrator and install the extension through the GUI instead of doing it the terminal way but that is just a preference. Med vänlig hälsning Niklas Johansson Joaquín Lameiro skrev 2013-08-12 17:25: Hi. Thanks for the help, Niklas. First: Neither DlgAbout nor DlgBookmark under eLAIX node when installed as a user extension. Second: I followed your advise and try to install eLAIX as a shared macro, but it didn't work either. I just summarize what I did so you can check I didn't make any mistake: I'm running LibO 4.0 on Windows Vista 32 bits SP 2. I opened the extension manager through the GUI (Tools - Extension manager) and uninstalled eLAIX. I closed LibO and downloaded the OXT file from the web into my user folder. I right-clicked on the Windows promt icon and selected 'Open as administrator'. The Windows prompt popped up in a new window. I executed 'unopkg add --shared c:/path/file.oxt' from the 'program' sub-folder of LibO (of course I changed the 'path' and 'file' generic names for the actual ones). Unopkg run without problems, printed a copy of the license and asked me to agree, which I did. It came out to the promt without error. I exited the administrator promt and started Write. The eLAIX extension was installed, but: -gave the same error -when checking the macros manager (Alt+F11), eLAIX was under the shared macros, but DlgAbout and/or DlgBookmark were still missing from the node. No idea why the macros are being deleted, but hope this information could help to report a bug (I don't have the knowledge to report it properly). Thanks again everybody, Joaquín Sorry to hear that you are still having troubles with this. So what that line of code is suppose to do is to load the dialogs in the library eLAIX so that they can be used by the program. For some reason this is not possible. I've seen some problems with dialog libraries disappearing in some cases so let's see if we can pin down if this is what has happened. Open Writer Press Alt+F11 Press the button Edit in the dialog that appears On the left side in the editor you have a tree structure, find eLAIX and expand that node Do you see a DlgAbout or DlgBookmark there under? We should probably try to formulate a bug report about vanishing dialog libraries (as well as basic libraries). I found it hard to formulate such a bug since I haven't found when it happens just that it happens some times, and I believe it's more and more frequent. Just a thought, you could try to install the extension as a shared extension. If it is installed as a shared extension then LibreOffice will need elevated rights to change the dialogs, which it should not have under normal circumstances. Of course this does not fix the actual problem but it might make it possible for you to use eLAIX without having to repeatedly reinstalling the extension each time the dialogs disappear. Let us know if you need more information on how to install a shared extension, and in that case please let us know what operating system your using (Windows, Mac, some sort of Linux distribution ...) Regards, Niklas Johansson Joaquín Lameiro skrev 2013-08-12 13:56: Hi. Seems it was not that easy to solve. The reinstallation of eLAIX worked the first time, but now I'm getting the same problem again. Besides the error message, LibO opens the Basic editor and outputs the macro, marking the line that is causing the problem. I copy the pertinent part of the output, and underline the specific line, which is actually 'DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary( eLAIX )' from the Document related functions section: [...] '** ' Document related functions: Doc Open | Doc Metadata | Doc Check | Doc Export '** function DocImport() ImportFromILIAS end function sub DocCheck() dim oGraphic as object dim oControl as object dim sPath as string dim sImgPath as string dim oStructure as object dim oSyncOutlines as object dim oEmptyHeadings as object dim oDoubleSpaces as object dim oStatus as object dim vState as integer 'initialize dialog and elements DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary( eLAIX ) goDlgCheck = CreateUnoDialog( DialogLibraries.eLAIX.DlgCheck ) sPath = GetPackageDirURL(vnd.harryboldt.elaix) sImgPath = sPath /icons/dialog/check.png oControl = goDlgCheck.getControl(imgLogo) oControl.getModel().ImageURL = ConvertToURL( sImgPath ) 'setting the dialog elements oStructure = goDlgCheck.getControl(chkStructure) oSyncOutlines = goDlgCheck.getControl(chkSyncOutlines) oEmptyHeadings = goDlgCheck.getControl(chkEmptyHeadings) oDoubleSpaces =
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org
Hi :) If it is a completely independant forum and one that is owned by the community could we just copy it and host on TDF or LO servers? Alternatively might they be in a better position to ask Apache to host it or donate a better server to them? or could TDF donate a better server to them? There are neutral 3rd parties such as Friends of OpenDocument, ODFAuthors, OASIS. I can't believe they and everyone else considers the pages hold are so worthless that they still haven't been able to gather support. Do they use Creative Commons or other copy-left licenses or would they be annoyed if we just copied the whole lot onto somewhere safer? Regards from Tom :) From: Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 7:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Hello This is just to reply to Jim's initial problem with the oooforum website. Jim I am getting likewise no response to the web page, so similiar to other respondents, it seems to be down, or as indicated unstable. This could be currently an unmaintained server, or one with a low priority of whoever is supposed to maintain it, or the hosting co. is not offering a good level of maintenance, but all supposition. It trace routes fine from my country in an average of 300 to 400 milliseconds, so it is reachable, but the actual html or whatever being used for the web page/s seems to be the problem. Regards Andrew Brown On 13/08/2013 08:32 AM, Dave Barton wrote: Tom, Undoubtedly you post with the best of intentions, but please stop jumping in with confusing misinformation. There are two entirely separate forums: 1. http://www.oooforum.org The independent unofficial one Jim was referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server is at best unreliable and frequently times out. 2. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ The official one Apache inherited from OpenOffice.org which you are referencing. Dave Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it might perform better if you go to the link i gave and do your search from inside their forums. That way you might dodge any links with domains that might have changed. Outside of their forums search engines may still be giving old links. Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Jim Byrnes jf_byr...@comcast.net; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 4:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Hi Jim, I didn't realise this had cropped up before - pretty sad as I logged the first message! I have attached a link to when this was discussed back in February http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/oooforum-org-td4039871.html#a4040074 BTW, link not working for me at present either Cheers On 08/13/2013 01:09 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/12/2013 07:54 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Jim, I don't really use that forum but if you can send the link I will give it a go Cheers On 08/13/2013 10:42 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to oooforum.org or is just me? Been doing a lot of googling trying to figure out how to write some python macros in LO calc and many links lead to posts on oooforum.org. Lately everytime I try one it times out. Regards, Jim I don't use it either, this is a link to an archived post. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=56015#56015 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Including code example in documents
Hi :) Is that RTF as in Rich Text Format if so then it's a dying format owned by Microsoft. They stopped developing it a few years ago so any bugs or problems with it will remain unpatched. Apparently it's inconsistent across different programs and different platforms and support for it is dropping away. It might still work as an intermediary format for getting output into Writer or something but is not good for long-term storage or for sharing documents with other people. Almost every other format can hold colour information so i'm not sure why this is such a struggle. Is it the question of getting the colour information into LibreOffice? Regards from Tom :) aihaike wrote I think I'll try the RTF generation option. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Including-code-example-in-documents-tp4069680p4069829.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: trying to integrate oracle forms with libreoffice
Hi at the end I could made this work, the integration between libreoffice and webutil fails for two reasons: -there was no an adequate procedure for passing arrays as call arguments -the version of the jacob java library which comes with oracle forms 10gR2 was very old and doesn't support passing a arrays as arguments I made a small component similar to webutil which uses a newer jacob library and implements the call for passing arrays as arguments. I have done some basic testing (open a new document a save it with some text) and it works. I can't make the code public as the code is derived from Oracle code which comes with the Oracle Forms server but if anybody needs it I can send it in a private message best regards -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/trying-to-integrate-oracle-forms-with-libreoffice-tp4068433p4069830.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. -- *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me* http://about.me/vliscony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready
Hi :) The Base Handbook for LO 3.6.x has been available for some time but the German Team have just finished writing their Handbook for the 4.1.x branch and there have been quite a lot of additions. If anyone can join in and help them translate or help proof-read or get screen-shots in English (if needed) then that would be fantastic. The Docs Team is a difficult one to join and it means signing up to a couple of 3rd party independent sites, such as ODFAuthors, but they are all a good bunch and do good work so once you get past the initial hurdles it's usually good to be par of the team. Regards from Tom :) From: Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 21:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready Hello *, next release of the German Base-Handbuch has been uploaded to http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ Version 4.1 shows the new functions in the Query-Editor and gives a hint about changes in the listfields of forms and using this changes with macros. Many content has been added. Base Handbuch 3.5 had 303 pages, 4.0 had 349 pages and 4.1 has 385 pages. I will have a look which content could be good for the English version of the handbook. I have put the lists of content of the three versions of Base-Handbuch in a Calc-document. It's all in German, but shows a little bit, where we have changed and added content. You can download this document here: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb/Vergleich_Base_Handbuecher.ods There are also changes in the chapters. But it can't be written down in some sentences here. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
Hi :) It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might help. Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility with older versions of MSO. Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so they really don't know what they are using most of the time. Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. -- *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me* http://about.me/vliscony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX wins and maybe epub for electronic archives. -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub documents using LO: http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to Find Dangling Cross References in Writer
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 21:12 +0430, Sina Momken wrote: On 08/12/2013 02:53 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 07:25 +1000, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi, Probably not the solution you were hunting for but I create a PDF and search for the offending text. It gets the job done in a roundabout sort of way Sadly, this is my method as well. It is especially irritating when using Master Documents [which link many docuemnts]. The documents *CAN* reference each other but only that only works from the Master Document, so refreshing the master document and generating a PDF and searching for the text is [so far] the simplest way I have found. I've not tested this idea myself, but why don't you just search for the offending error (i.e. Reference source not found) in the master documents itself? Why you first generate a PDF from that? Because the error message text is not actually 'in' the document, it is the results of the cross reference de-referencing. Thus, in the master document you cannot find / Ctrl-F the error message. P.S. I don't have a serious solution, but I think this can be my problem in the future too. Cross reference and Master Documents are the killer feature of LibreOffice, but this is one corner where it falls down [why can't a document 'know' in it's meta-data that it is part of a master document, dunno, that would probably be a big deal, but it would certainly be a boon for this feature-set]. -- Adam Tauno Williams mailto:awill...@whitemice.org GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Including code example in documents
If you are using NetBeans (available on most Linux flavors) you can export to HTML by clicking File Print to HTML. -Bill On 8/12/2013 6:30 PM, aihaike wrote: Dear all, Thank for all your suggestion. I use Linux and Notepad++ or NoteTab are available on widows only. I think I'll try the RTF generation option. Thanks again. Éric.. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Including-code-example-in-documents-tp4069680p4069788.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] good practical example of network installation linux, including LO
Hi :) Thanks :) I've just used that in a letter to my boss. Well, one of my bosses. The marketing team might well be interested as it's good to have examples from different countries and the UK is a difficult one for FOSS to get any kind of foothold here. Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 13:09 Subject: [libreoffice-users] good practical example of network installation linux, including LO Readers, For those considering to deploy LO in a network environment, this example in a school should prove to be useful for reference/discussion: http://opensource.com/education/13/7/linux-westcliff-high-school -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready
I switched to Libre Office mostly because I was so thrilled with the documentation. How nice to hear that it is being updated along with the software. I do not read or speak German but would be happy to help proofread an English version. How do I go about joining the Docs Team? Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA On 8/13/2013 7:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) The Base Handbook for LO 3.6.x has been available for some time but the German Team have just finished writing their Handbook for the 4.1.x branch and there have been quite a lot of additions. If anyone can join in and help them translate or help proof-read or get screen-shots in English (if needed) then that would be fantastic. The Docs Team is a difficult one to join and it means signing up to a couple of 3rd party independent sites, such as ODFAuthors, but they are all a good bunch and do good work so once you get past the initial hurdles it's usually good to be par of the team. Regards from Tom :) From: Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 21:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready Hello *, next release of the German Base-Handbuch has been uploaded to http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ Version 4.1 shows the new functions in the Query-Editor and gives a hint about changes in the listfields of forms and using this changes with macros. Many content has been added. Base Handbuch 3.5 had 303 pages, 4.0 had 349 pages and 4.1 has 385 pages. I will have a look which content could be good for the English version of the handbook. I have put the lists of content of the three versions of Base-Handbuch in a Calc-document. It's all in German, but shows a little bit, where we have changed and added content. You can download this document here: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb/Vergleich_Base_Handbuecher.ods There are also changes in the chapters. But it can't be written down in some sentences here. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ruth Ann Stewart, Cincinnati, OH dba Cameo Canine www.CameoCanine.com came...@gmail.com You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. You cannot establish security on borrowed money. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves. ~William J. H. Boetcker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX wins and maybe epub for electronic archives. -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub documents using LO: http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org
On 08/12/2013 10:16 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi Jim, I didn't realise this had cropped up before - pretty sad as I logged the first message! I have attached a link to when this was discussed back in February http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/oooforum-org-td4039871.html#a4040074 BTW, link not working for me at present either Cheers Hi Tim, Thanks for trying and thanks for the link. Reading through that link I see possible spammers as the problem. I do recall one time I got a message that there were too many connection. It would be a shame if all the info became unavailable. Regards, Jim On 08/13/2013 01:09 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/12/2013 07:54 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Jim, I don't really use that forum but if you can send the link I will give it a go Cheers On 08/13/2013 10:42 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to oooforum.org or is just me? Been doing a lot of googling trying to figure out how to write some python macros in LO calc and many links lead to posts on oooforum.org. Lately everytime I try one it times out. Regards, Jim I don't use it either, this is a link to an archived post. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=56015#56015 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready
Hi :) From the main website http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/documenters/ just join their mailing list and give a brief sentence or couple of paragraphs like you did just there. Let them know you need a login for ODFAuthors although they usually figure that out just when you say you want to get involved. they do have some wiki-pages to try to help you work out what you are doing but it's easier to start by saying hi to their mailing list and take it from there. They keep trying to smooth those wiki-pages but it's still not always clear because they focus more on the work itself. Regards from Tom :) From: Ruth Ann came...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 15:40 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready I switched to Libre Office mostly because I was so thrilled with the documentation. How nice to hear that it is being updated along with the software. I do not read or speak German but would be happy to help proofread an English version. How do I go about joining the Docs Team? Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA On 8/13/2013 7:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) The Base Handbook for LO 3.6.x has been available for some time but the German Team have just finished writing their Handbook for the 4.1.x branch and there have been quite a lot of additions. If anyone can join in and help them translate or help proof-read or get screen-shots in English (if needed) then that would be fantastic. The Docs Team is a difficult one to join and it means signing up to a couple of 3rd party independent sites, such as ODFAuthors, but they are all a good bunch and do good work so once you get past the initial hurdles it's usually good to be par of the team. Regards from Tom :) From: Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 21:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready Hello *, next release of the German Base-Handbuch has been uploaded to http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ Version 4.1 shows the new functions in the Query-Editor and gives a hint about changes in the listfields of forms and using this changes with macros. Many content has been added. Base Handbuch 3.5 had 303 pages, 4.0 had 349 pages and 4.1 has 385 pages. I will have a look which content could be good for the English version of the handbook. I have put the lists of content of the three versions of Base-Handbuch in a Calc-document. It's all in German, but shows a little bit, where we have changed and added content. You can download this document here: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb/Vergleich_Base_Handbuecher.ods There are also changes in the chapters. But it can't be written down in some sentences here. Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ruth Ann Stewart, Cincinnati, OH dba Cameo Canine www.CameoCanine.com came...@gmail.com You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. You cannot establish security on borrowed money. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves. ~William J. H. Boetcker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org
On 08/13/2013 01:58 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hello This is just to reply to Jim's initial problem with the oooforum website. Jim I am getting likewise no response to the web page, so similiar to other respondents, it seems to be down, or as indicated unstable. This could be currently an unmaintained server, or one with a low priority of whoever is supposed to maintain it, or the hosting co. is not offering a good level of maintenance, but all supposition. It trace routes fine from my country in an average of 300 to 400 milliseconds, so it is reachable, but the actual html or whatever being used for the web page/s seems to be the problem. Regards Andrew Brown Hi Andrew, Thanks for checking. By now you have probably seen Tim's post where he gave me a link detailing how this same problem came up earlier. I sometimes run into problems because I normally refuse cookies. If a site doesn't work I can usually fix it by accepting cookies, this time that did not work, so I sought some help. Regards, Jim On 13/08/2013 08:32 AM, Dave Barton wrote: Tom, Undoubtedly you post with the best of intentions, but please stop jumping in with confusing misinformation. There are two entirely separate forums: 1. http://www.oooforum.org The independent unofficial one Jim was referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server is at best unreliable and frequently times out. 2. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ The official one Apache inherited from OpenOffice.org which you are referencing. Dave Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it might perform better if you go to the link i gave and do your search from inside their forums. That way you might dodge any links with domains that might have changed. Outside of their forums search engines may still be giving old links. Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Jim Byrnes jf_byr...@comcast.net; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 4:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Hi Jim, I didn't realise this had cropped up before - pretty sad as I logged the first message! I have attached a link to when this was discussed back in February http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/oooforum-org-td4039871.html#a4040074 BTW, link not working for me at present either Cheers On 08/13/2013 01:09 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/12/2013 07:54 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Jim, I don't really use that forum but if you can send the link I will give it a go Cheers On 08/13/2013 10:42 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to oooforum.org or is just me? Been doing a lot of googling trying to figure out how to write some python macros in LO calc and many links lead to posts on oooforum.org. Lately everytime I try one it times out. Regards, Jim I don't use it either, this is a link to an archived post. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=56015#56015 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org
Hi :) I guess that is 1 good argument for keeping posts on-list. I really thought they were both the same thing. I thought pretty much all the community stuff had been forced to escape from Oracle and ended up here or as genuinely 3rd party stand-alone projects. Thanks for correcting me there! :) Regards from Tom :) From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 7:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Tom, Undoubtedly you post with the best of intentions, but please stop jumping in with confusing misinformation. There are two entirely separate forums: 1. http://www.oooforum.org The independent unofficial one Jim was referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server is at best unreliable and frequently times out. 2. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ The official one Apache inherited from OpenOffice.org which you are referencing. Dave Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it might perform better if you go to the link i gave and do your search from inside their forums. That way you might dodge any links with domains that might have changed. Outside of their forums search engines may still be giving old links. Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Jim Byrnes jf_byr...@comcast.net; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 4:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: connecting to oooforum.org Hi Jim, I didn't realise this had cropped up before - pretty sad as I logged the first message! I have attached a link to when this was discussed back in February http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/oooforum-org-td4039871.html#a4040074 BTW, link not working for me at present either Cheers On 08/13/2013 01:09 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/12/2013 07:54 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Jim, I don't really use that forum but if you can send the link I will give it a go Cheers On 08/13/2013 10:42 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to oooforum.org or is just me? Been doing a lot of googling trying to figure out how to write some python macros in LO calc and many links lead to posts on oooforum.org. Lately everytime I try one it times out. Regards, Jim I don't use it either, this is a link to an archived post. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=56015#56015 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with eLAIX extension on LibO 4.0
Hi. It seems it works now. I did a fresh installation of LibO 4.0.4, like I had done before, but this time I made sure I erased all the remaining files both in Windows Program Files folder and in the users' AppData folders (these are usually hidden). Now, these folders (particularly the AppData ones) remain with some information about the users' preferences, and are not erased during the uninstallation process (in case one wants to reinstall LibO later, I guess). Among this information there are some XML files and other stuff related to the extension preferences. As the problem started with the upgrade to LibO 4.1.0, my guess is that probably some of those files were modified during the upgrade, and something went wrong. Then, when I found out that the extension was not running and downgrade to 4.0.4, the configuration files remained untouched, so 4.0 couldn't find the missing paths either. I also tried to install other extensions before fixing the problem, and they actually gave me the same problem: they could not find the dialog macros. The pattern was always the same: if I installed the extension and did NOT close LibO, the extension ran. Once I closed LibO and I restarted it, the dialog macros would be missing. So, most likely LibO reads those user configuration files when it starts, and therefore all the erasing or changing of the macros is done at this point. Configuration files erased, I checked this pattern (install the extension, run it without restarting LibO, restart LibO, run the extension again) several times, and found no problem at all. Now, if this happened because of the upgrade and / or the downgrade, will probably give trouble to other people and, maybe, is a symptom something should be checked during the installation and uninstallation processes so the configuration files that remain from previous versions are properly handled and compatibility problems can be avoided. I'm an absolute layman in programming, so I write this here with the hope it will be useful to the people really working on the project. Maybe someone could systematize this info and create a bug report or something if they think it necessary. So thanks everybody. Regards, Joaquín Hi To bad it did not work out for you. I can't see any issue with the way you installed as a shared extension. I usually start LibreOffice as administrator and install the extension through the GUI instead of doing it the terminal way but that is just a preference. Med vänlig hälsning Niklas Johansson Joaquín Lameiro skrev 2013-08-12 17:25: Hi. Thanks for the help, Niklas. First: Neither DlgAbout nor DlgBookmark under eLAIX node when installed as a user extension. Second: I followed your advise and try to install eLAIX as a shared macro, but it didn't work either. I just summarize what I did so you can check I didn't make any mistake: I'm running LibO 4.0 on Windows Vista 32 bits SP 2. I opened the extension manager through the GUI (Tools - Extension manager) and uninstalled eLAIX. I closed LibO and downloaded the OXT file from the web into my user folder. I right-clicked on the Windows promt icon and selected 'Open as administrator'. The Windows prompt popped up in a new window. I executed 'unopkg add --shared c:/path/file.oxt' from the 'program' sub-folder of LibO (of course I changed the 'path' and 'file' generic names for the actual ones). Unopkg run without problems, printed a copy of the license and asked me to agree, which I did. It came out to the promt without error. I exited the administrator promt and started Write. The eLAIX extension was installed, but: -gave the same error -when checking the macros manager (Alt+F11), eLAIX was under the shared macros, but DlgAbout and/or DlgBookmark were still missing from the node. No idea why the macros are being deleted, but hope this information could help to report a bug (I don't have the knowledge to report it properly). Thanks again everybody, Joaquín Sorry to hear that you are still having troubles with this. So what that line of code is suppose to do is to load the dialogs in the library eLAIX so that they can be used by the program. For some reason this is not possible. I've seen some problems with dialog libraries disappearing in some cases so let's see if we can pin down if this is what has happened. Open Writer Press Alt+F11 Press the button Edit in the dialog that appears On the left side in the editor you have a tree structure, find eLAIX and expand that node Do you see a DlgAbout or DlgBookmark there under? We should probably try to formulate a bug report about vanishing dialog libraries (as well as basic libraries). I found it hard to formulate such a bug since I haven't found when it happens just that it happens some times, and I believe it's more and more frequent. Just a thought, you could try to install the extension as a shared
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
On 08/13/2013 05:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might help. Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility with older versions of MSO. This implication concerns me! If LO is going to drop .doc as a standard, then my advice to others to use .doc instead of .docx as a common interchange standard is in jeopardy. I hope LO never drops .doc as a standard. That said, I had to open a .docx form I received the other week and LO opened it fine, with the exception of the usual font size problems that ran text off the right margin. That was easily fixed by changing the font size. Regards. Girvin Herr Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so they really don't know what they are using most of the time. Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. -- *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me* http://about.me/vliscony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Including code example in documents
Eric, I use Kate in KDE to do my source coding and it does color syntax highlighting. I am sure there are other Linux plain text editors that do it too. However, those colors are only in Kate and do not exist in the edited file. One thing you might try is to capture the screen and insert it into your LO document as an image. I have done that to print something and the colors do exist in the LO document. However, if your source file is long, that could get tedious fast. Another nice feature of Kate is that you can define projects, Kate calls them sessions, which may include several files. Opening a saved session, opens all the files and they can be listed in a hierarchical list in a left window pane. This makes copying and pasting from one file to another simple. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr On 08/12/2013 03:30 PM, aihaike wrote: Dear all, Thank for all your suggestion. I use Linux and Notepad++ or NoteTab are available on widows only. I think I'll try the RTF generation option. Thanks again. Éric.. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Including-code-example-in-documents-tp4069680p4069788.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX wins and maybe epub for electronic archives. -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub documents using LO: http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
Hi :) Oops, no i meant the Doc format compatibility is kinda fixed now and can be gently improved on without worrying about what MS are going to do to it. The Doc is safe. It's only DocX that is constantly changing to the point where being more compatible with one version of MSO seems to mean being less compatible with another. But even there, maybe it is possible to be more compatible with all of them? It's often a LibreOffice or OpenOffice users in the office that helps people using different versions of MSO to arrive at something both of them can read happily. Rogier did get me worried for a moment that maybe Doc was not working quite as well as i hoped but then i realised it's more likely to be some sort of user-error by one or more of his colleagues. I find i suffer from user error quite a bit myself so i can easily imagine how it happens. I suspect that LO will keep supporting Doc long after MS drop it completely themselves and i don't think that is likely to happen any time soon. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 18:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc On 08/13/2013 05:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might help. Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility with older versions of MSO. This implication concerns me! If LO is going to drop .doc as a standard, then my advice to others to use .doc instead of .docx as a common interchange standard is in jeopardy. I hope LO never drops .doc as a standard. That said, I had to open a .docx form I received the other week and LO opened it fine, with the exception of the usual font size problems that ran text off the right margin. That was easily fixed by changing the font size. Regards. Girvin Herr Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so they really don't know what they are using most of the time. Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. -- *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me* http://about.me/vliscony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX wins and maybe epub for electronic archives. -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub documents using LO: http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX wins and maybe epub for electronic archives. -Original Message- From: rost52 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub documents using LO: http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
[libreoffice-users] Any Good Info on Using LibreOffice Base With KDE-PIM?
Hi all, I asked this on the KDE-PIM mailing list, but thought I would raise my question here as well - maybe someone here already uses LO with Kontact. Is there any good info anywhere on using KDE-PIM (Kontact) with LibreOffice (especially Base)? Does Base read vCard files? Is there a way to do something like a Linking table (as one can between MS Acess Outlook)? Or is importing and exporting data about the best hope? Many thanks! Don -- D.C. Parris, FMP, Linux+, ESL Certificate Minister, Security/FM Coordinator, Free Software Advocate http://dcparris.net/ https://www.xing.com/profile/Don_Parrishttp://www.linkedin.com/in/dcparris GPG Key ID: F5E179BE -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any Good Info on Using LibreOffice Base With KDE-PIM?
In data martedì 13 agosto 2013 15:47:09, Don Parris ha scritto: Hi all, I asked this on the KDE-PIM mailing list, but thought I would raise my question here as well - maybe someone here already uses LO with Kontact. Is there any good info anywhere on using KDE-PIM (Kontact) with LibreOffice (especially Base)? Does Base read vCard files? Is there a way to do something like a Linking table (as one can between MS Acess Outlook)? Or is importing and exporting data about the best hope? Many thanks! Don Hi Don I think you can find some infos here: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 KDE-PIM is now based on Akonadi which normally uses MySql databases, so I suppose yes, it can be connected in some way. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/76/BH35-BaseHandbook.pdf Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then installed into LO. It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in digital format
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any Good Info on Using LibreOffice Base With KDE-PIM?
Thanks Valter! That is fairly helpful. There is even discussion on using PostgreSQL as the back-end in place of MySQL. Maybe I can mak a little progress on this! On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Valter Mura valterm...@libreoffice.orgwrote: In data martedì 13 agosto 2013 15:47:09, Don Parris ha scritto: Hi all, I asked this on the KDE-PIM mailing list, but thought I would raise my question here as well - maybe someone here already uses LO with Kontact. Is there any good info anywhere on using KDE-PIM (Kontact) with LibreOffice (especially Base)? Does Base read vCard files? Is there a way to do something like a Linking table (as one can between MS Acess Outlook)? Or is importing and exporting data about the best hope? Many thanks! Don Hi Don I think you can find some infos here: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 KDE-PIM is now based on Akonadi which normally uses MySql databases, so I suppose yes, it can be connected in some way. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/76/BH35-BaseHandbook.pdf Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- D.C. Parris, FMP, Linux+, ESL Certificate Minister, Security/FM Coordinator, Free Software Advocate http://dcparris.net/ https://www.xing.com/profile/Don_Parrishttp://www.linkedin.com/in/dcparris GPG Key ID: F5E179BE -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) That progress is sometimes a double-edge sword. Many of us stick with older branches, or in other word only upgrade most of our machines to the newer branch when the newer one reaches x.x.3 or x.x.4. On the other hand AOO is more stable for more of it's branches life-cycles precisely because they don't develop so fast, which kinda makes it a tad dull and unlikely to succeed in the longer term once everyone else has left it so far behind. There is a guide somewhere on how to get 2 versions of these suites working alongside each other. It's not trivial, unless you have done it before in which case it's probably quite easy Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 20:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then installed into LO. It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To:
[libreoffice-users] OOSheet?
I found a python module that looks like it could simplify writing python macros in calc here: http://oosheet.hacklab.com.br/ . In the download/install section it shows the command to install it with pip. It then goes on to say you will need git and python uno. I already have python uno installed but why would I need git? Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
Whew! That eases my mind. The only problem is that when MSO no longer supports .doc format as an option, then MSO users will no longer have that interchange standard format and we will be at the mercy of whatever proprietary format M$ chooses - again. I am sure that is by design. Thanks. Girvin Herr On 08/13/2013 11:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Oops, no i meant the Doc format compatibility is kinda fixed now and can be gently improved on without worrying about what MS are going to do to it. The Doc is safe. It's only DocX that is constantly changing to the point where being more compatible with one version of MSO seems to mean being less compatible with another. But even there, maybe it is possible to be more compatible with all of them? It's often a LibreOffice or OpenOffice users in the office that helps people using different versions of MSO to arrive at something both of them can read happily. Rogier did get me worried for a moment that maybe Doc was not working quite as well as i hoped but then i realised it's more likely to be some sort of user-error by one or more of his colleagues. I find i suffer from user error quite a bit myself so i can easily imagine how it happens. I suspect that LO will keep supporting Doc long after MS drop it completely themselves and i don't think that is likely to happen any time soon. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 18:53 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc On 08/13/2013 05:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might help. Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility with older versions of MSO. This implication concerns me! If LO is going to drop .doc as a standard, then my advice to others to use .doc instead of .docx as a common interchange standard is in jeopardy. I hope LO never drops .doc as a standard. That said, I had to open a .docx form I received the other week and LO opened it fine, with the exception of the usual font size problems that ran text off the right margin. That was easily fixed by changing the font size. Regards. Girvin Herr Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so they really don't know what they are using most of the time. Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com mailto:vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. -- *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me* http://about.me/vliscony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fixing Printing Paper Defaults
On 02/08/13 01:13, Brian Barker wrote: At 22:54 01/08/2013 +0100, Alastair Noname wrote: My main use of LO will be for business correspondence and I need some help with templates. In WordPro my template has company details in the header but I am able to suppress this on the second and subsequent sheets. Is it possible to do this in LO ... Headers (and footers) are a property of page styles. If you want a header on some parts of your document but not on others - or headers with different contents - then you need different page styles for those parts. You could create your own styles if necessary, of course, but you may find that the standard First Page and Default page styles will suffice. o Go to Format | Styles and Formatting (or use the Styles and Formatting button in the Formatting toolbar, or press F11). o Click the Page Styles button. o With the cursor in the first page of your text, double-click the required page style - probably First Page. Since your text will presumably flow naturally across from the first page to the second, you will need the change of page style to occur at that point, wherever in the text that happens to be. You do this by defining a Next Style on the Organizer tab of the first page style - and you will see that First Page's Next Style is already set to Default, so that has been taken care of. Default's Next Style is Default, so your first page has First Page page style and all other pages will have Default page style. (There is another method which suits different cases. Where there is a clear separation between the material that must occur on the first and second pages, you will anyway wish to insert a manual page break at this point. And you can make the change in page style explicit at that point.) Also how do I keep numbering in footer correct? What's the problem? It's only when you want the page numbering *not* to follow on normally that you need to tinker. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Hi Brian, All the above is fine and thanks again. A couple of follow up questions if I may pleaase ask:- I note I can modify the First Page style but what I think I need to do is create a new first page style called say Home Address Letter style. I don't know how the style properties for the first page are created but I presume I can modify the First Page style and save it as Home Address Letter Is that right? In fact I need two letter first pages, one for office and one for home so further help would be appreciated. The second question concerns fonts. I am used to having the font included within the style definition. Is this possible with LO? Grateful for further guidance when you have time. Regards, Budge -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
Hi :) I suspect that a lot of other programs will also continue to support Doc and as far as possible Rtf too but such files will become increasingly difficult over the longer-term. It is time to start moving towards Odt for longer-term storage. Even MSO supports Odt now and that format is implemented pretty much exactly as documented making it more of a longer-term prospect for anyone that wants to read their own documents in a decade or so. Doc is possibly the best for most collaborative work right now but Odt will probably take over that role too. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 23:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Whew! That eases my mind. The only problem is that when MSO no longer supports .doc format as an option, then MSO users will no longer have that interchange standard format and we will be at the mercy of whatever proprietary format M$ chooses - again. I am sure that is by design. Thanks. Girvin Herr On 08/13/2013 11:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Oops, no i meant the Doc format compatibility is kinda fixed now and can be gently improved on without worrying about what MS are going to do to it. The Doc is safe. It's only DocX that is constantly changing to the point where being more compatible with one version of MSO seems to mean being less compatible with another. But even there, maybe it is possible to be more compatible with all of them? It's often a LibreOffice or OpenOffice users in the office that helps people using different versions of MSO to arrive at something both of them can read happily. Rogier did get me worried for a moment that maybe Doc was not working quite as well as i hoped but then i realised it's more likely to be some sort of user-error by one or more of his colleagues. I find i suffer from user error quite a bit myself so i can easily imagine how it happens. I suspect that LO will keep supporting Doc long after MS drop it completely themselves and i don't think that is likely to happen any time soon. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 18:53 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc On 08/13/2013 05:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might help. Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility with older versions of MSO. This implication concerns me! If LO is going to drop .doc as a standard, then my advice to others to use .doc instead of .docx as a common interchange standard is in jeopardy. I hope LO never drops .doc as a standard. That said, I had to open a .docx form I received the other week and LO opened it fine, with the exception of the usual font size problems that ran text off the right margin. That was easily fixed by changing the font size. Regards. Girvin Herr Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so they really don't know what they are using most of the time. Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com mailto:vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
There is a version for AOO, several actually written by a guy with an Italian country code. One for version if for 3.x, another for 4.0, and a new Beta one. So you may need to look into which one you are using for which version of LO or AOO. I found this out by Googling odf to epub converter On 08/13/2013 04:15 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then installed into LO. It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? Anyone able to give it a go? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com Cc: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de; users@global.libreoffice.org
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fixing Printing Paper Defaults
At 22:53 13/08/2013 +0100, Alastair Noname wrote: I note I can modify the First Page style but what I think I need to do is create a new first page style called say Home Address Letter style. I don't know how the style properties for the first page are created but I presume I can modify the First Page style and save it as Home Address Letter Is that right? o Open the Styles Formatting window. o Click on the Page Styles icon. o Double-click on First Page. (This applies First Page page style to the page containing the cursor.) o Click on New Style from Selection and then New Style from Selection. o Give your new style a name. You now have a copy of the First Page page style with your new name. o Right-click on the new style in the list and select Modify... . o Modify your new page style as required. In fact I need two letter first pages, one for office and one for home so further help would be appreciated. It would be easier to create one first page style in each of two separate templates, wouldn't it? You'd never want two first pages in one document. The second question concerns fonts. I am used to having the font included within the style definition. Is this possible with LO? Yes, but fonts are hardly page properties - so they are not a property of page styles. Fonts are a property of paragraph styles (and of character styles). Your templates will have default paragraph styles (perhaps Default or Text body?), and you can select a preferred font in each of those - or, indeed, in multiple paragraph styles. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I got mine from http://lukesblog.it/ebooks/ebook-tools/writer2epub/. There's a version that words for LO 3, LO 4 and AOO 3, along with a separate version for AOO 4. My problem wasn't that I had the wrong version. I got the version that was designed for LO. It just wouldn't install as long as I had AOO on my system. Once I uninstalled AOO, the extension worked fine with LO. Of course, I have no idea *why* this behavior occurred. I won't blame AOO or anything else. I can't even scientifically say that LO and AOO had a conflict. I just know that, once I uninstalled AOO, I was able to install the writer2epub extension into my LO. I recalled someone else on the list saying that LO and AOO may conflict by sharing common Windows registry entries. That stuff is beyond my abilities, but I just shared it for others who may be interested. Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:41 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer There is a version for AOO, several actually written by a guy with an Italian country code. One for version if for 3.x, another for 4.0, and a new Beta one. So you may need to look into which one you are using for which version of LO or AOO. I found this out by Googling odf to epub converter On 08/13/2013 04:15 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then installed into LO. It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted. Here's a link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fixing Printing Paper Defaults
On 14/08/13 12:32 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 22:53 13/08/2013 +0100, Alastair Noname wrote: I note I can modify the First Page style but what I think I need to do is create a new first page style called say Home Address Letter style. I don't know how the style properties for the first page are created but I presume I can modify the First Page style and save it as Home Address Letter Is that right? o Open the Styles Formatting window. o Click on the Page Styles icon. o Double-click on First Page. (This applies First Page page style to the page containing the cursor.) o Click on New Style from Selection and then New Style from Selection. o Give your new style a name. You now have a copy of the First Page page style with your new name. o Right-click on the new style in the list and select Modify... . o Modify your new page style as required. In fact I need two letter first pages, one for office and one for home so further help would be appreciated. It would be easier to create one first page style in each of two separate templates, wouldn't it? You'd never want two first pages in one document. The second question concerns fonts. I am used to having the font included within the style definition. Is this possible with LO? Yes, but fonts are hardly page properties - so they are not a property of page styles. Fonts are a property of paragraph styles (and of character styles). Your templates will have default paragraph styles (perhaps Default or Text body?), and you can select a preferred font in each of those - or, indeed, in multiple paragraph styles. Please correct me if I am wrong. LO does not have global styles, styles are stored in documents. Default styles are those in default documents. Hence your suggestion to have 2 different templates for each of the first page styles. When you load the template you get the styles in that template. Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi all ! Virgil, How did you try to install the writer2epub ? Did you use the wizzard that have LO or AOO ? Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El mar, 13-08-2013 a las 20:36 -0400, Virgil Arrington escribió: I got mine from http://lukesblog.it/ebooks/ebook-tools/writer2epub/. There's a version that words for LO 3, LO 4 and AOO 3, along with a separate version for AOO 4. My problem wasn't that I had the wrong version. I got the version that was designed for LO. It just wouldn't install as long as I had AOO on my system. Once I uninstalled AOO, the extension worked fine with LO. Of course, I have no idea *why* this behavior occurred. I won't blame AOO or anything else. I can't even scientifically say that LO and AOO had a conflict. I just know that, once I uninstalled AOO, I was able to install the writer2epub extension into my LO. I recalled someone else on the list saying that LO and AOO may conflict by sharing common Windows registry entries. That stuff is beyond my abilities, but I just shared it for others who may be interested. Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:41 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer There is a version for AOO, several actually written by a guy with an Italian country code. One for version if for 3.x, another for 4.0, and a new Beta one. So you may need to look into which one you are using for which version of LO or AOO. I found this out by Googling odf to epub converter On 08/13/2013 04:15 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then installed into LO. It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it handled the default Text Body style by not indenting the first paragraph after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However, it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of contents and navigation keys on my Kindle. As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years later already. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; e-letter inp...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate well. I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from the beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension. These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment. Virgil
