Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorting a MySQL Database

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Whitfield

Hi Noel

On 29/08/13 06:12, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Ian,

With a Form, I have found the following is the way to lock in the Form's
sort order -

1.  Open the Form in Edit mode
2.  Right click on the form and from the dropdown choose Form...
3.  Click on the Data Tab
4.  The contents field should be pointing to your Table
5.  Click on the box to the right of the Sort field
6.  Then you can choose your sort fields, (LastName and FirstName)
7.  Click OK
8.  Close Form Properties
9.  Save the Form

This works with my H2 database.  Hopefully it is the same for your MySQL.


Thanks for your reply - This is exactly what I was looking for!!

BUT

I open the Form in Edit Mode and Right-Click on it and there is NO 
Form in the options that come up!!


My LO is version 3.6.5.2 (Build ID: 5b93205) and MySQL is 5.1

thanks anyway

IanW
Pretoria RSA


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorting a MySQL Database

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Whitfield

Hi Noel

On 29/08/13 06:12, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Ian,

With a Form, I have found the following is the way to lock in the Form's
sort order -

1.  Open the Form in Edit mode
2.  Right click on the form and from the dropdown choose Form...
3.  Click on the Data Tab
4.  The contents field should be pointing to your Table
5.  Click on the box to the right of the Sort field
6.  Then you can choose your sort fields, (LastName and FirstName)
7.  Click OK
8.  Close Form Properties
9.  Save the Form

This works with my H2 database.  Hopefully it is the same for your MySQL.


Just checked on my OLD Base / HSQL Database and there is NO Form 
option there either - so I guess this is an option only with your H2 
engine (??)


IanW
Pretoria RSA


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA

2013-08-29 Thread Michele contabilmenteAG
Dear Marlosv

thanks for the reply. Enclosed is sending the file from these problems.

I look forward to technical comments from the thing.

(I have not yet thrown from my building, but customers may feel happy to
push me from the brink, if he does not finish the job  :-) )

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Please : Some Notes  details for the use of the file:

It is a complete accounting double entry for businesses.

The worksheets are to be observed:

PROSPETTO CODICI (which contains 2 PivotTable): one for a CODICI DARE
and one for CODICI AVERE

The origin of the data is in the worksheet PRIMA NOTA.

activity 1) If you update the PivotTable CODICI AVERE (red numbers),
updating the Codes field disappears and the pivot table does not work.

Task 2) If you ask in the Pivot table detail of a code (double click on
an amount in AVERE column or DARE column) opens a worksheet regularly with
details.

If you make the task 1) or 2) in the worksheet named BILANCIO CE
columns C (visible column) and F (hidden column) where the functions are
written in the cells GETPIVOTDATA refer to 2 Pivot Tables do not contain
more results GETPIVOTDATA = function no longer works.

Even rewriting the Pivot Tables and rewriting the GETPIVOTDATA function in
those cells (the cells before deleting), the function from the results that
more has to give. And then the balance is no longer results 
Oh My God What a disaster! [?]

Best Regards.

Michele Ras


2013/8/28 mariosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi

 Hi Michele,

 can you attach a sample file?

 No possible do it from your email program, but answering through mail list
 you can.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorting a MySQL Database

2013-08-29 Thread Marion Noel Lodge
Hi Ian,

There is another way -

1.  After opening your Form in design mode, click on View | Toolbars | and
make sure Form Design is ticked
2.  On that toolbar, click on Form Navigator (5th from left on my toolbar -
it's the one with the 4 point star on it)
3.  Right click on your Form name (probably the 2nd item from the top)
4.  Choose Properties
5.  Continue from point 3 on my first reply

If that doesn't work, then someone who uses Forms with MySQL may be able to
help you.

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On 29 August 2013 17:55, Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net wrote:

 Hi Noel

 On 29/08/13 06:12, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

 Hi Ian,

 With a Form, I have found the following is the way to lock in the Form's
 sort order -

 1.  Open the Form in Edit mode
 2.  Right click on the form and from the dropdown choose Form...
 3.  Click on the Data Tab
 4.  The contents field should be pointing to your Table
 5.  Click on the box to the right of the Sort field
 6.  Then you can choose your sort fields, (LastName and FirstName)
 7.  Click OK
 8.  Close Form Properties
 9.  Save the Form

 This works with my H2 database.  Hopefully it is the same for your MySQL.


 Just checked on my OLD Base / HSQL Database and there is NO Form option
 there either - so I guess this is an option only with your H2 engine (??)

 IanW
 Pretoria RSA



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA

2013-08-29 Thread carlo.strata
Ciao Michele,

your attachment has not reached us.

To attach a file you can:
- register to nabble http://nabble.documentfoundation.org and then going to
the right post (mailing list - thread - post; you could find the link in
this post's footer); in Nabble's editor there is a More button by clicking
on it you can find Upload a file;
- use your Dropbox public directory or link the file from the single file
share function and give us the simple file link;
- use others public web places and give us the simple file link.

Hope this help!

In addition: have you tried opening and use the sheet on the just released
4.1.1 LibreOffice version? You get the same behavior?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download

Have a nice day,

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[libreoffice-users] Re: problem with formala inserted by macros when decimal separator is comma

2013-08-29 Thread Mindaugas
In 4.0 the properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the expected result:

cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

In 4.1 the both properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the same result:

cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

Best regards

Mindaugas

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Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-29 Thread anne-ology
   the birds do it ... the fish do it ... now, the computerists
migrate  ;-)

   Does anyone really wish to remain with MSFT?; it's just already
programmed into these glorified-typewriter machines ...
scary prospect to remove it then install something else -and
all alone, nary a soul to even lend a hand  ;-)

   BTW - I thought many of your pubs were called the King's Arms  ;-)



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 Even though this thread went wy off-topic it's ended up being very
 relevant to a problem many of us have.  How to migrate.


 Given that most people want to stay with MS systems we are a bit stuck in
 the phase of having to deal with both systems at the same time.  Even when
 the ODF format does become dominant there will probably be a few people
 still using the ever-changing proprietary format that could disappear
 any-time at the whim of a single company.


 It's interesting to hear that Km changed it's base without changing it's
 size (or may have changed length just a tiny bit that most of us wouldn't
 have noticed).  I quite like the idea of re-measuring a long dead king's
 arm as it slowly crumbles away but that might be a bit dark for most
 people!  Probably better to just quaff a few ales in the Queens Arms
 instead.  Not sure why so many pubs are called the Queens Arms.

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
 To: lo  LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013, 15:13
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to
 other software/formats?


 rost52 wrote:
  The metric system has it is advantage in the factors of 10 or 1/10. I
  consider this as the reason why most countries adopted the metric system.

 It was also designed as a logical system, tied to defined physical
 constants.  I recently watched a video about how the new standard for a
 kilogram was the number of atoms in a precisely measured silicon
 sphere.  The kilometre was originally defined in relation to the
 distance from the equator to the poles, but is currently determined by
 the wavelength of light emitted by the kryton-86 items.  This shows the
 metric system is defined in terms of physical constants and not some
 unmeasurable item such as the length of a long dead king's arm.
 
  If a country is serious about a change, than all measures must be
  provided for a while in both units and after while the old units must
  disappear.

 In Canada, when Km and °C came in, there was a switch over date, the
 road sides had stickers placed over the old speed limit in miles to show
 in Km.  Weather reporting switched to Celsius.  As for physical things,
 there was a date given, where dimensions had to be specified in metric,
 but this applied to things made after that date and older items could
 still be sold.  However, manufacturers switched production well before
 that date.  The switch over was also phased in, so only one thing
 changed at a time.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Download page is inaccesible for me

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies


Hi :)
Indeed most of your links don't work.  I think the first one did but i wasn't 
sure.  Did you try starting at the main home-page for LibreOffice and navigate 
from there (or from the downloads page) or where you modifying links that you 
had used in the past?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download
Regards from 
Tom :)  


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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Download page is inaccesible for me


Hi.

I'm trying to download libreoffice 4.1 but no one link is working:

http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/deb-x86_64/4.1.0/es/LibreOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.0/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_deb_langpack_es.tar.gz
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/4.1.0/LO-4.1.0_English-NA-DVD_All-Platforms_Multi-Lang_plus-extras.iso

Every link i try fail:

julian@debian:~$ wget
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/4.1.0/LO-4.1.0_English-NA-DVD_All-Platforms_Multi-Lang_plus-extras.iso
--2013-08-28 17:51:16--
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/4.1.0/LO-4.1.0_English-NA-DVD_All-Platforms_Multi-Lang_plus-extras.iso
Resolviendo download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)...
5.9.148.85, 2a01:4f8:190:3144::2
Conectando con download.documentfoundation.org (
download.documentfoundation.org)[5.9.148.85]:80... falló: Expiró el tiempo
de conexión.
Conectando con download.documentfoundation.org (
download.documentfoundation.org)[2a01:4f8:190:3144::2]:80... falló: La red
es inaccesible.

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Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Yes, there are a lot of Kings Arms too, i'd kinda forgotten.  In Brighton there 
was one called the Queens Head with it's sign being a painting of Freddy 
Mercury.  Usually the signs are fairly predictable.  I saw a Queens Legs once 
but can't remember where.  

Actually wrt to removing Windows that is really not necessary at all.  It's 
what the MS world prefer people to do but is absolutely NOT what  the 
OpenSource world recommends.  The whole point about using the word migrate is 
to avoid the idea of switching.  

Most OpenSource people have a dual-boot (or multi-boot).  When they turn on 
their system they get a boot menu giving a list of the different operating 
systems on their machine.  The commonest is to have 2 options; with one being 
for Windows and the other being for Mint/Ubuntu/openSuSE/whatever.  

The usual recommendation from most OpenSource people is to start the migration 
with the boot-menu defaulting into Windows.  Then after some time switch that 
around making the GnuLinux the default.  

Almost all my colleagues' machines still default into Windows but i have a few 
that would default into Ubuntu if their users didn't press the up arrow in 
time.  I give them 10 seconds which is more than enough for most people.  


I get the impression that MS would rather people switched rather than migrate 
because it always takes people time to learn a new system.  

During that learning process there are bound to be times when you don't know 
how to do something really quite trivial.  People often claim the new system 
can't do something, not because they have exhaustively searched for it - but 
just because they can't be bothered to poke around for 2 seconds or ask 
someone.  For some reason such morons are usually highly regarded and their 
opinions widely sought.  Anyway if they had been able to quickly reboot back 
into Windows, complete the task, and then take their time finding out how to do 
whatever then they would probably find plenty of ways.  People who do the 
switch often end up rejecting the new system and taking it back to the shop and 
demanding whatever they were used to previously.  People who do the migration 
often end up staying away from Windows more and more.  

There was the case of a German town council that had been taking advice from 
the Free Software Foundation and everything was going really smoothly with 
most councillors much preferring OpenOffice (just before the launch of LO) and 
the new systems and loving the reduction in license fees.  Then a change of 
personnel at the top led to the IT department suddenly stopping all 
communication with the FSF and started hiring in MS employees to help them 
migrate.  The MS people said to do a complete switch and get rid of all 
remaining  MS stuff.  Within a few months the whole thing had collapsed and the 
council 'had to' re-purchase all new MS stuff.  There was a big newspaper 
article about how rubbish OpenSource was and how it had ended up costing the 
council a huge fortune.  

Meanwhile a Spanish government had put several thousand GnuLinux desktops into 
schools and following the FSF people's advice found it such a huge success that 
they put in a lot more similar systems into government offices.  All a complete 
success and a massive saving.  

So, don't let yourself get pushed into getting rid of Windows because there 
really is no need to.  Just go for the dual-boot and use both.  Let yourself be 
led gently by the hand instead of being dragged kicking and screaming into the 
21st century.  Gentler option wins.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






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To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013, 15:33
Subject: Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 
paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
 

       the birds do it ... the fish do it ... now, the computerists
migrate  ;-)

       Does anyone really wish to remain with MSFT?; it's just already
programmed into these glorified-typewriter machines ...
            scary prospect to remove it then install something else -and
all alone, nary a soul to even lend a hand  ;-)

       BTW - I thought many of your pubs were called the King's Arms  ;-)



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 Even though this thread went wy off-topic it's ended up being very
 relevant to a problem many of us have.  How to migrate.


 Given that most people want to stay with MS systems we are a bit stuck in
 the phase of having to deal with both systems at the same time.  Even when
 the ODF format does become dominant there will probably be a few people
 still using the ever-changing proprietary format that could disappear
 any-time at the whim of a single company.


 It's interesting to hear that Km changed it's base without changing it's
 

[libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA

2013-08-29 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Yes, as Carlo says.  You can also follow the Nabble links in Carlo's or my
message to get to the exactly tight thread.  

Of course security experts say we shouldn't just click on any links in any
emails or on unknown websites and should really navigate a safe known path
instead.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] bibliography after endnotes

2013-08-29 Thread Info/UX

Thank you very much for this.

I am using LO 4.0.2.2, which is the latest build available for Kubuntu 
12.04 LTS. I wonder why you do not experience the bug I do. I did 
upgrade from 3.5 (I think) to my current version and found the same bug. 
Maybe I should try the .deb from the LibreOffice website.


I am wondering though whether sections are needed at all. As long as one 
inserts the bibliography at the final stage it might be possible to 
simply press return and copy and paste under the final endnote.


Regards,
Ryan

On 28/08/13 23:18, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
I don't know which operation system and LO version are you using but 
on 4.0.5 on Linux the section for main content does the trick - I can 
put main content in a section, and in a section properties tick 
Collect at the end of section, Restart numbering, Custom format. 
Adding an endnote attaches it to a end of a section, and I can do Alt 
+ Enter to exit that (main) section and make manual break with Ctrl + 
Enter so Bibliography can be added to a new page. It all works with 
double spaces (for endnotes and main text).


Just wonted to tell you that because maybe changing the LO version 
would solve your problems. Also, see here: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx3K99ehRXI


Kruno


On 08/28/2013 07:22 PM, Info/UX wrote:

Hi,

To simplify last night's tale of woe into one issue...

The only way of placing the bibliography after the endnotes in correct
formatting is to place a section after (technically within) the final
endnote. Using a section for the main article causes a crash when
double spacing is applied.

Does this method bode well for MS Word compatibility? Is there a
better method?

Many thanks,
Ryan







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Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Just found this
  
South Tyrol has announced to migrate 7000 PCs in the public
administration to LibreOffice -
http://www.provinz.bz.it/lpa/285.asp?redas=yesaktuelles_action=4aktuelles_article_id=428953
(announcement in german)

from the marketing list, the post from Christian Lohmaier in response to a 
question about the best route to take on the way to get from Munich to Milan 
for LibOCon.  I tend to choose routes that either  fastest or for best for 
sight-seeing, NOT by what locals are likely to be using on their computers! :)  
lol  


Regards from 
Tom :)  




 From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013, 16:22
Subject: Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 
paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
 


Hi :)  
Yes, there are a lot of Kings Arms too, i'd kinda forgotten.  In Brighton there 
was one called the Queens Head with it's sign being a painting of Freddy 
Mercury.  Usually the signs are fairly predictable.  I saw a Queens Legs once 
but can't remember where.  

Actually wrt to removing Windows that is really not necessary at all.  It's 
what the MS world prefer people to do but is absolutely NOT what  the 
OpenSource world recommends.  The whole point about using the word migrate is 
to avoid the idea of switching.  

Most OpenSource people have a dual-boot (or multi-boot).  When they turn on 
their system they get a boot menu giving a list of the different operating 
systems on their machine.  The commonest is to have 2 options; with one being 
for Windows and
 the other being for Mint/Ubuntu/openSuSE/whatever.  

The usual recommendation from most OpenSource people is to start the migration 
with the boot-menu defaulting into Windows.  Then after some time switch that 
around making the GnuLinux the default.  

Almost all my colleagues' machines still default into Windows but i have a few 
that would default into Ubuntu if their users didn't press the up arrow in 
time.  I give them 10 seconds which is more than enough for most people.  


I get the impression that MS would rather people switched rather than migrate 
because it always takes people time to learn a new system.  

During that learning process there are bound to be times when you don't know 
how to do something really quite trivial.  People often claim the new system 
can't do something, not because they have exhaustively searched for it - but 
just because they can't be bothered to poke
 around for 2 seconds or ask someone.  For some reason such morons are usually 
highly regarded and their opinions widely sought.  Anyway if they had been able 
to quickly reboot back into Windows, complete the task, and then take their 
time finding out how to do whatever then they would probably find plenty of 
ways.  People who do the switch often end up rejecting the new system and 
taking it back to the shop and demanding whatever they were used to previously. 
 People who do the migration often end up staying away from Windows more and 
more.  

There was the case of a German town council that had been taking advice from 
the Free Software Foundation and everything was going really smoothly with 
most councillors much preferring OpenOffice (just before the launch of LO) and 
the new systems and loving the reduction in license fees.  Then a change of 
personnel at the top led to the IT department suddenly stopping all
 communication with the FSF and started hiring in MS employees to help them 
migrate.  The MS people said to do a complete switch and get rid of all 
remaining  MS stuff.  Within a few months the whole thing had collapsed and the 
council 'had to' re-purchase all new MS stuff.  There was a big newspaper 
article about how rubbish OpenSource was and how it had ended up costing the 
council a huge fortune.  

Meanwhile a Spanish government had put several thousand GnuLinux desktops into 
schools and following the FSF people's advice found it such a huge success that 
they put in a lot more similar systems into government offices.  All a complete 
success and a massive saving.  

So, don't let yourself get pushed into getting rid of Windows because there 
really is no need to.  Just go for the dual-boot and use both.  Let yourself be 
led gently by the hand instead of being dragged kicking and screaming into
 the 21st century.  Gentler option wins.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013, 15:33
Subject: Re: migrating to new systems, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 
paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
 

       the birds do it ... the fish do it ... now, the computerists
migrate  ;-)

       Does anyone 

Re: [libreoffice-users] bibliography after endnotes

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Zotero seems to make the whole thing a lot more flexible and easier to get 
working the more sensible ways.  If you look through the mailing lists archives 
then you see pretty much all questions about end-notes are magically resolved 
when the person started using Zotero.  

Even though i have never used it and don't need end-notes in the types of 
documents i produce an barely remember it's name until someone else mentions it 
i still really recommend giving it a go asap.  
Regards from 
Tom:)  






 From: Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013, 23:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] bibliography after endnotes
 

I don't know which operation system and LO version are you using but on 
4.0.5 on Linux the section for main content does the trick - I can put 
main content in a section, and in a section properties tick Collect at 
the end of section, Restart numbering, Custom format. Adding an endnote 
attaches it to a end of a section, and I can do Alt + Enter to exit that 
(main) section and make manual break with Ctrl + Enter so Bibliography 
can be added to a new page. It all works with double spaces (for 
endnotes and main text).

Just wonted to tell you that because maybe changing the LO version would 
solve your problems. Also, see here: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx3K99ehRXI

Kruno


On 08/28/2013 07:22 PM, Info/UX wrote:
 Hi,

 To simplify last night's tale of woe into one issue...

 The only way of placing the bibliography after the endnotes in correct
 formatting is to place a section after (technically within) the final
 endnote. Using a section for the main article causes a crash when
 double spacing is applied.

 Does this method bode well for MS Word compatibility? Is there a
 better method?

 Many thanks,
 Ryan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] editing Sharepoint documents

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is a video about using an alternative to Sharepoint but i think it is 
meant to be generic enough that it gives the rough idea for Sharepoint too.
http://www.libreoffice.org/home/Discover

I was lucky enough to meet the lady whose voice was used in the video but sadly 
she was too shy to be videoed or even photographed so i just have my failing 
memory to rely on :(  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





 From: Bruce Carlson bruce.carl...@nepean.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013, 6:13
Subject: [libreoffice-users] editing Sharepoint documents
 

Hi All,

I've been trying to find a way to checkout and edit documents from sharepoint 
libraries.
I want to be able to use libreoffice on Ubuntu to edit both Microsoft and open 
document formats.
I am able to checkout from sharepoint but the documents open in libreoffice as 
readonly.

I've been trying to find plugins etc.  on the internet but I always end up 
being directed to a page that does not exist
Anyone know how to do this.


Thanks,

Bruce Carlson.

Website: www.nepean.comhttp://www.nepean.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, or spend it shouting at the stupid potholes that i hadn't noticed and that 
had given me a flat (or whatever problem i ran into).  At least with a 
push-bike it's reasonably easy to suddenly go off road and push the bike and 
generally make the most of it
Regards from 
Tom :)  





 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013, 15:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other 
software/formats?
 


   so some days you spend more time viewing the scenery, huh?  ;-)





On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi :)
I think our cars show both too.  I think road signs only show miles.  Errr, i 
am a cyclist so any distance away just seems forever away until i reach it.  
60 miles might take just a few hours one day but then an 8mile might be 
unfeasible another.  Bit of an exaggeration of course.

Regards from
Tom :) 




From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 19:08

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to 
other software/formats?



Ruth Ann wrote:
 Metric just never caught on here in the USA. And I noticed that as the
 signs were replaced, the news ones just gave the distance in miles again.


You can thank Reagan for that one.  Peanut Carter had implemented a plan
to convert, but Reagan killed it.  This was the same period as when
Canada switched.
 Oh, and our cars still do show the speed in both miles per hour and
 kilometers per hour - but I think that is probably just in case we
 happen to visit Canada (who has gone metric, I think) :-)

Both Canada and Mexico along with every other country an American can
drive to, uses Km.  The U.S. is stuck with 2 third world countries as
the last holdouts.  How does it feel to have the U.S. on par with
Liberia and Myanmar (Burma).

Regardless, thanks to world trade, more and more U.S. companies are
having to work with the metric system, if they want to sell elsewhere.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] .ORD files

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I did a google search about it and found a few proprietary tools that might 
work or might be dodgy.  I hate all that freeware/shareware or low cost dodgy 
looking proprietary looking stuff.  There is just no way of knowing what it's 
doing and there is a reputation that they do nasty stuff quite often.  If you 
are using the tools on Wine in GnuLinux then you are probably a lot safer than 
using the same tools in Windows ... 

On the other hand some of the best-ever tools and games and things have been 
released that way so it's really difficult to tell if they are just falling 
foul of the same type of FUD that OpenSource gets tarred with.  

I used to have an amazing Firewall that also acted as a package manager for 
updating drivers and everything in Windows Xp.  Their company got bought-out 
and then the product just vanished and i lost my installer.  Another was an 
awesome anti-spyware thing that was maintained by just 1 person but still 
managed to stay ahead of companies such as Norton/Symantec almost all the time. 
 

There seems to be some confusion whether .ord are system config files or 
something like that or CAD files!  Quite a difference!  The proprietary tools 
seemed to deal with .ords that were system files.  

I'm on a different machine today and haven't googled on here yet and prolly 
wont have time to sory.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 22:35
Subject: [libreoffice-users] .ORD files
 

Hi, I am going to throw this in for comment. Not expecting much 
response. I saw a mention on linuxquestions relating to reading a .ord file:

    ORD is a file format used by OMAX software to store routed tool path
    information. This is the information that the controller needs in
    order to machine a part.

The guy wants to know whether there is an application which can open 
this type of file. I guess the question is, has anyone ever heard of 
this file type before?

Cheers


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorting a MySQL Database

2013-08-29 Thread Girvin Herr



On 08/29/2013 12:30 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi Noel

On 29/08/13 06:12, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Ian,

With a Form, I have found the following is the way to lock in the Form's
sort order -

1.  Open the Form in Edit mode
2.  Right click on the form and from the dropdown choose Form...
3.  Click on the Data Tab
4.  The contents field should be pointing to your Table
5.  Click on the box to the right of the Sort field
6.  Then you can choose your sort fields, (LastName and FirstName)
7.  Click OK
8.  Close Form Properties
9.  Save the Form

This works with my H2 database.  Hopefully it is the same for your 
MySQL.


Thanks for your reply - This is exactly what I was looking for!!

BUT

I open the Form in Edit Mode and Right-Click on it and there is NO 
Form in the options that come up!!


My LO is version 3.6.5.2 (Build ID: 5b93205) and MySQL is 5.1

thanks anyway

IanW
Pretoria RSA



It seems where you right-click on the form is important.  If I click 
anywhere but the top of the form, then I do not get the Form option.  
However, if I click near the top edge, I do get the Form option.  
Don't know why this is, unless it has something to do with the beginning 
of data.  There was something I read about the form being made up of 
paragraphs, so maybe you need to click near the beginning of the first 
paragraph to get outside it.  Otherwise, you get the paragraph context 
menu for the right-click.  If you don't have the form broken up into 
paragraphs (I don't), then you have one paragraph.

Hope this helps.
Girvin Herr




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
That helped me find it on Ubuntu 12.04 and gave the package name
ttf-mscorefonts-installer
so it'd be 

sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer 

on a debian (and probably quite a few others) command-line.  For Redhat just 
swap out apt-get with yum?  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 1:14
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other 
software/formats?
 

In Ubuntu 13.04, the package in the software center is called:
Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts

Don

On 08/26/2013 08:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 There used to be a package called something like ms core fonts which had 
 arial, times new roman, trebuchet, verdana and maybe a couple other things.  
 I must have got the name a bit wrong because i cna't find it in my package 
 manager now.


 I've copied across a few fonts from Ubuntu to Windows but i should really 
 find a way of being more consistent one day to get all machines on both 
 networks the same as each other.  Possibly 1 folder on the file-share and 
 then just dragdrop

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
   From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
 To: Info/UX inf...@gmx.com
 Cc: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 0:33
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to 
 other software/formats?
  

 I think you've got a good process there.

 Fonts! It's one problem I see with interaction between Linux and Windows. I
 have a dual boot Windows/Linux laptop, and the font issue is a constant
 problem. I've found that many Windows fonts install quite nicely into Linux,
 but I do want to respect copyrights and licenses, so I tend to use free
 fonts as much as possible. The URW collection of free fonts is quite nice,
 as is Linux Libertine, which has some really nice expert effects (old style
 numbering, true small caps, etc.). Another great free font for book-style
 work is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy.

 Virgil

 -Original Message-
 From: Info/UX
 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:20 PM
 To: Virgil Arrington
 Cc: Tom Davies ; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to
 other software/formats?

 Thanks a lot for that, Virgil.

 Based on the information you and Tom have provided, my workflow will go:
 .ott (with paragraph and page styles) -- .odt (copy and paste .doc
 content, load style from template, format, save) -- export to PDF --
 save as .doc -- send to MS computer -- Manually clean up any problems.

 I think this should be fine, if a little involved. All the fonts I need
 are standard MS stuff, which I have installed. I'll spare you the horror
 stories about preparing a nice document in LO using DejaVU fonts and
 then later opening in a new*ish* version of MS Word. ;-)

 Thanks again for the time you took. Think I can get to work now.

 Regards,
 Ryan

 On 26/08/13 23:59, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 Before answering your question, I did a little test. I loaded a simple
 .odt two page document in LO. It has some basic paragraph styles, and a
 few outline styles with automatic numbering, along with a footer with a
 page number. Basic stuff.

 I then saved the document as a .doc (Word 2003). I loaded it into the Word
 Starter Version that came with my Sony Laptop, and it converted *almost*
 perfectly. There was only a slight deviation in my outline numbering. LO
 adds more horizontal space after an automatic number, whereas Word adds a
 tab character. When converting the document, LO added a tab and
 adjusted the extra horizontal space, but there was still an ever so slight
 difference in the lining up of the text. It would only bother an obsessive
 person like me.

 The page formatting and footer with page number translated perfectly.

 I'm using LO 3.6.7 and I must say that it's .doc translation is extremely
 good, much better than I remember from previous versions.

 Virgil

 -Original Message- From: Info/UX
 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:40 PM
 To: Virgil Arrington
 Cc: Tom Davies ; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to
 other software/formats?

 Thanks, Virgil.

 My documents are similar to yours. One last question then I'll give you
 guys some peace. :-) Would making a page style with page size letter
 and with a footer be considered LO specific? I don't need anything more
 intricate than that.

 Thanks for the tip regarding Atlantis. I only have Linux at home so will
 probably stick with LO.

 Thanks again. Your replies have helped a lot.

 Regards,
 Ryan

 On 26/08/13 23:29, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 My documents tend to be *really* basic in terms of formatting. Typically,
 they are either legal or academic style papers. I'm a heavy user of
 

[libreoffice-users] Translating questions and answers

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  

Ideally i like to forwards the question to the international translators list 
fairly quickly.  


For the parts that appear on this list i try to use Quick translate (or other 
machine translator tool) but keep it close to the original in whatever language 
that was in.  Not everyone has access to the tools and even if they do they 
often don't realise.  


At my own work-place they keep wanting translations and yet they just wont 
engage with FOSS tools or don't quite realise the capacity FOSS would give 
them.  A few do use Firefox but don't have any translations add-ons [sighs 
deeply].  

Regards from 
Tom :)  




- Forwarded Message -
From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013, 7:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] busca de soluções para  Excel
 

At 10:57 25/08/2013 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
Again using Quick Translate but this time from English into 
Portuguese. Unfortunately machines are not good at speaking human 
languages so this might be nonsensical.

Which is why it's always best to leave messages in the writer's own 
language and let the recipient manage the translation - as indeed the 
original questioner did.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Mobile devices?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
 mini-Usb socket in the top.  If that could break-out to a powered 
usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens working 
off the Android?  


So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home might be enough to do emailing and 
more serious stuff there and still be able to keep an eye on things when 
travelling around or out?


Or is Android just not yet set-up to do this sort of thing?  

Regards from 
Tom :)  




- Forwarded Message -
From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013, 5:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cross Platfrom Support Question **CLOSED 
Thread**
 

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Doug wrote:

 On 08/24/2013 06:22 PM, Jay Ridgley wrote:
 To those who responded,
 
 I guess the bottom line is that currently LibreOfffice does not and will not 
 without a LOT of work support mobile devices.
 
 I am not a mobile user, so I have no frame of reference.  It does appear 
 that 
 this feature (mobility) will be required at some future point, however.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Jay
 
 What kind of masochist would wish to do any serious writing--the kind
 that would require a word-processor--on a mobile phone, or a
 touch-screen tablet?  Get real!

 --doug

you can add a small bluetooth keyboard.

some come in a kind of sleeve where you can fold the keyboard and the 
10 tablet together held by velcro; you unfold it and the tablet is 
propped up and the keyboard laid out flat. folded up, it all fits into 
a woman's purse or a small satchel. the keyboard is pretty easy to use 
for normal-sized hands and fingers.

opposite of masochism.

not my taste though - I prefer more power and gear - but perfectly 
understandable setup for many use-cases.

F.

-- 
Felmon Davis

Better some of a pudding than none of a pie.  -- John Ray

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mobile devices?

2013-08-29 Thread Paul
Sounds like the Ubuntu Edge:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge


On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:23:49 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
  mini-Usb socket in the top.  If that could break-out to a powered 
 usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens
 working off the Android?  
 
 
 So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home might be enough to do
 emailing and more serious stuff there and still be able to keep an
 eye on things when travelling around or out?
 
 
 Or is Android just not yet set-up to do this sort of thing?  
 
 Regards from 
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013, 5:21
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cross Platfrom Support Question
 **CLOSED Thread** 
 
 On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Doug wrote:
 
  On 08/24/2013 06:22 PM, Jay Ridgley wrote:
  To those who responded,
  
  I guess the bottom line is that currently LibreOfffice does not
  and will not without a LOT of work support mobile devices.
  
  I am not a mobile user, so I have no frame of reference.  It does
  appear that this feature (mobility) will be required at some
  future point, however.
  
  
  Thanks,
  Jay
  
  What kind of masochist would wish to do any serious writing--the
  kind that would require a word-processor--on a mobile phone, or a
  touch-screen tablet?  Get real!
 
  --doug
 
 you can add a small bluetooth keyboard.
 
 some come in a kind of sleeve where you can fold the keyboard and the 
 10 tablet together held by velcro; you unfold it and the tablet is 
 propped up and the keyboard laid out flat. folded up, it all fits
 into a woman's purse or a small satchel. the keyboard is pretty easy
 to use for normal-sized hands and fingers.
 
 opposite of masochism.
 
 not my taste though - I prefer more power and gear - but perfectly 
 understandable setup for many use-cases.
 
 F.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA

2013-08-29 Thread MiguelAngel

El 29/08/13 10:38, Michele contabilmenteAG escribió:

Dear Marlosv

thanks for the reply. Enclosed is sending the file from these problems.

I look forward to technical comments from the thing.

(I have not yet thrown from my building, but customers may feel happy to
push me from the brink, if he does not finish the job  :-) )

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Please : Some Notes  details for the use of the file:

It is a complete accounting double entry for businesses.

The worksheets are to be observed:

PROSPETTO CODICI (which contains 2 PivotTable): one for a CODICI
DARE and one for CODICI AVERE

The origin of the data is in the worksheet PRIMA NOTA.

activity 1) If you update the PivotTable CODICI AVERE (red numbers),
updating the Codes field disappears and the pivot table does not work.

Task 2) If you ask in the Pivot table detail of a code (double click
on an amount in AVERE column or DARE column) opens a worksheet regularly
with details.

If you make the task 1) or 2) in the worksheet named BILANCIO CE
columns C (visible column) and F (hidden column) where the functions are
written in the cells GETPIVOTDATA refer to 2 Pivot Tables do not contain
more results GETPIVOTDATA = function no longer works.

Even rewriting the Pivot Tables and rewriting the GETPIVOTDATA function
in those cells (the cells before deleting), the function from the
results that more has to give. And then the balance is no longer results

Oh My God What a disaster!

Best Regards.

Michele Ras



Hi Michele.

1) Seems the row field is missing, WHY? I don't know, maybe a bug. Edit 
the PT add the field Cod. R/D to row fields and PT works again.


2) Calc have been a deep rework on the core for 4.1,
seems that the second form of GETPIVOTDATA, what you are using doesn't 
work, but the first form works for me:

in cell BILANCIOCEE.C10:
=GETPIVOTDATA(DARE;'PROSPETTO CODICI'.$A$3;'PROSPETTO CODICI'.$A$3;$A10).

Saluti.
Miguel Ángel.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .ORD files

2013-08-29 Thread Tim Lloyd

Thanks for following up Tom.

The guy who posted this question over on LQ seems to have left the 
building so he either has a solution or he has given up.


Anyway, we will know for next time!

Cheers

On 08/30/2013 03:38 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I did a google search about it and found a few proprietary tools that might work or 
might be dodgy.  I hate all that freeware/shareware or low cost dodgy looking 
proprietary looking stuff.  There is just no way of knowing what it's doing and 
there is a reputation that they do nasty stuff quite often.  If you are using the 
tools on Wine in GnuLinux then you are probably a lot safer than using the 
same tools in Windows ...

On the other hand some of the best-ever tools and games and things have been 
released that way so it's really difficult to tell if they are just falling 
foul of the same type of FUD that OpenSource gets tarred with.

I used to have an amazing Firewall that also acted as a package manager for 
updating drivers and everything in Windows Xp.  Their company got bought-out 
and then the product just vanished and i lost my installer.  Another was an 
awesome anti-spyware thing that was maintained by just 1 person but still 
managed to stay ahead of companies such as Norton/Symantec almost all the time.

There seems to be some confusion whether .ord are system config files or 
something like that or CAD files!  Quite a difference!  The proprietary tools 
seemed to deal with .ords that were system files.

I'm on a different machine today and haven't googled on here yet and prolly 
wont have time to sory.
Regards from
Tom :)






  From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 22:35
Subject: [libreoffice-users] .ORD files
  


Hi, I am going to throw this in for comment. Not expecting much
response. I saw a mention on linuxquestions relating to reading a .ord file:

 ORD is a file format used by OMAX software to store routed tool path
 information. This is the information that the controller needs in
 order to machine a part.

The guy wants to know whether there is an application which can open
this type of file. I guess the question is, has anyone ever heard of
this file type before?

Cheers





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Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA

2013-08-29 Thread Michele contabilmenteAG
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From: Michele contabilmenteAG contabilmenteag@gmail.com
Date: 2013/8/29
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LIBREOFFICE - Version: 4.1.0.4 Build
ID: 410m0(Build:4) / ALL S.o. / - BUG FUNCTION GETPIVOTDATA
To: MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi


Hola Miguel Angel,

1) true: it's a bug and I know, it is sufficient to re-enter the field of R
/ D in the PT and this works. But I certainly can not offer people to
download this program that works well. Although it is free, the user is in
trouble. Is necessary to fix that bug.

2) cells in columns C and F that you see in the file that I sent, retain
the right results from the previous version to 4.1.0.4.
if you change a code C / R or R / D in the data base (worksheet
PRIMANOTA) and then launches the update of the PT in the worksheet
PROSPETTO CODICI then the worksheet  BILANCIO CE  the GETPIVOTDATA
function no longer works and not by right results.

I have verified, however, that this bug happens using UBUNTU and also going
on Windows7.
Using XP does not seem to give this problem.

Let's see if there are further developments to the question (I hope before
my clients make me commit suicide out of the window )

:-)

Thanks a lot.
Best Regards

Michele



2013/8/29 MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi

 El 29/08/13 10:38, Michele contabilmenteAG escribió:

  Dear Marlosv

 thanks for the reply. Enclosed is sending the file from these problems.

 I look forward to technical comments from the thing.

 (I have not yet thrown from my building, but customers may feel happy to
 push me from the brink, if he does not finish the job  :-) )

 --**
 --**--
 Please : Some Notes  details for the use of the file:

 It is a complete accounting double entry for businesses.

 The worksheets are to be observed:

 PROSPETTO CODICI (which contains 2 PivotTable): one for a CODICI
 DARE and one for CODICI AVERE

 The origin of the data is in the worksheet PRIMA NOTA.

 activity 1) If you update the PivotTable CODICI AVERE (red numbers),
 updating the Codes field disappears and the pivot table does not work.

 Task 2) If you ask in the Pivot table detail of a code (double click
 on an amount in AVERE column or DARE column) opens a worksheet regularly
 with details.

 If you make the task 1) or 2) in the worksheet named BILANCIO CE
 columns C (visible column) and F (hidden column) where the functions are
 written in the cells GETPIVOTDATA refer to 2 Pivot Tables do not contain
 more results GETPIVOTDATA = function no longer works.

 Even rewriting the Pivot Tables and rewriting the GETPIVOTDATA function
 in those cells (the cells before deleting), the function from the
 results that more has to give. And then the balance is no longer results
 
 Oh My God What a disaster!

 Best Regards.

 Michele Ras

 

 Hi Michele.

 1) Seems the row field is missing, WHY? I don't know, maybe a bug. Edit
 the PT add the field Cod. R/D to row fields and PT works again.

 2) Calc have been a deep rework on the core for 4.1,
 seems that the second form of GETPIVOTDATA, what you are using doesn't
 work, but the first form works for me:
 in cell BILANCIOCEE.C10:
 =GETPIVOTDATA(DARE;'**PROSPETTO CODICI'.$A$3;'PROSPETTO
 CODICI'.$A$3;$A10).

 Saluti.
 Miguel Ángel.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mobile devices?

2013-08-29 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
  mini-Usb socket in the top.  If that could break-out to a powered 
 usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens working 
 off the Android?  


 So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home might be enough to do emailing and 
 more serious stuff there and still be able to keep an eye on things when 
 travelling around or out?


 Or is Android just not yet set-up to do this sort of thing?  

Every mobile device is required to have a USB connection for power.  It
doesn't have to be used for anything else but generally is.  I don't
know about keyboards though.  However, keyboards are supported via Blutooth.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: problem with formala inserted by macros when decimal separator is comma

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Thank you very much,

This is exactly what I wanted to know. I was not able to run that test 
myself.


On 08/29/2013 06:21 AM, Mindaugas wrote:

In 4.0 the properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the expected result:

cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

In 4.1 the both properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the same result:

cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

Best regards

Mindaugas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: problem with formala inserted by macros when decimal separator is comma

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


seems that you are not the first to see this bug. Consider adding 
yourself to the CC list. I dropped an email to the dev list to see if I 
can figure out who introduced the bug.


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67836

On 08/29/2013 10:30 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

Thank you very much,

This is exactly what I wanted to know. I was not able to run that test 
myself.


On 08/29/2013 06:21 AM, Mindaugas wrote:

In 4.0 the properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the expected result:

cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

In 4.1 the both properties Formula and FormulaLocal give the same 
result:


cell.Formula =  =2,1*2= 4,2
cell.Formula =  =2.1*2= #NAME?

cell.FormulaLocal =  =2,1*2   = 4,2
cell.FormulaLocal =  =2.1*2   =  #NAME?

Best regards

Mindaugas

Best regards



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mobile devices?

2013-08-29 Thread Daniel Espinosa
Motorola's phones have docks to connect any keyword and mouse, even an HDMI
television. When docked you have a Desktop very similar to GNOME. First
Atrix had a dock shipped with the devise and can use LAPTOP like dock. New
models require to buy docks separately.

With this kind if devices and a LibreOffice version for it you can have all
the power you need for basic work station.
El ago 29, 2013 8:06 p.m., James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com escribió:

 Tom Davies wrote:
  I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
   mini-Usb socket in the top.  If that could break-out to a powered
  usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens
 working off the Android?
 
 
  So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home might be enough to do
 emailing and more serious stuff there and still be able to keep an eye on
 things when travelling around or out?
 
 
  Or is Android just not yet set-up to do this sort of thing?

 Every mobile device is required to have a USB connection for power.  It
 doesn't have to be used for anything else but generally is.  I don't
 know about keyboards though.  However, keyboards are supported via
 Blutooth.


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