[libreoffice-users] Re: Inserting DRAW file as linked OLE in WRITER file?

2014-03-20 Thread Mucip
Hi Dale,
First of all I do not want to copy/paste from DRAW to WRITER. Because I 
use same picture in many documents. I want to insert picture to the 
document as linked. In this case when I change the main picture file 
than all documents can change... This is very good for me... One change 
(work) and many results... :)

According to my demand the best solution is inserting all pictures as 
hard link in DRAW file and make all changes/arrows in DRAW file. And 
inserting this file as hard linked to WRITER...

In this case you may double-click to DRAW OLE and open the source file. 
Than you may change, adding arrow, shapes and return to main WRITER 
file... The biggest problem in this situation is, when I do this than 
size of the OLE container is changing. I can not fix the size of OLE and 
visible region of the resource OLE file!...


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20-03-2014 01:21, Dale Rebgetz [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
yazmış:
 Hi Mucip,

 Is there a good reason for using OLE objects? I have used such for
 putting tables (Writer) in Draw documents, simply because Writer has
 much better table handling than Draw, but position control was a bit
 hit-and-miss.

 When you add the arrows to the picture, where is the arrow being placed?
 If you are using the Writer drawing tools to place the arrow, then it is
 a different object to the picture, so they will behave as different
 objects. If however you select the OLE object, then use its drawing
 tools to add the arrows, the arrows will be part of the OLE object.
 Then, repositioning the OLE object reposition the picture and arrows 
 as one.

 If you want to resize the picture and arrows as one object, the only way
 I know to achieve this is to arrange both together in the Draw document,
 select both, and Group them - which converts them to a single entity.

 My work flow for similar tasks is as follows:

 Drawings created with Writer/Draw: always create in Draw (better tools),
 group all elements, then copy into Writer. If editing is required, copy
 drawing into Draw, ungroup, edit, regroup, copy back. This might sound
 inefficient, but for a complex drawing the overhead is negligible and
 the productivity is far greater than trying to do the edit in Writer.
 Note that editing the text of Draw text elements can be done in Writer,
 and without ungrouping the object.

 Pictures with overlayed drawing elements (e.g. arrows):
 If the result will NOT require resizing: Create a frame in Writer, add
 the picture to the frame, add the graphics to the frame. If the graphics
 are complex, I first create them in Draw, then add as one object into
 the frame. The frame should ideally not contain other text. i.e. it
 should have just the one paragraph marker. By default the objects added
 to the frame are linked to the nearest paragraph marker. With just the
 one paragraph marker, the objects are easy to position within the frame,
 and their relative position does not move as the frame moves. i.e. they
 move as one object.

 If the result WILL require resizing, then I would arrange them in Draw,
 group, then copy to Writer.

 I hope this helps.

 Dale.

 On 19/03/2014 8:56 am, Mucip wrote:

  Hi,
  I am writing manual book of machine. I've got many pictures. I 
 import this
  picture one by one to DRAW file and I put arrow sign or text box on 
 some
  points of the pictures.
 
  I import this DRAW file as linked OLE object. But I can not center the
  picture in OLE container/frame? When I adjust it once than it may 
 change
  later?! I can not fix the main picture region of the DRAW object in OLE
  container/frame?...
 
  In MS Office you can add picture in the word file and you can add 
 arrows in
  the picture. Than all this object became like one solid. When you 
 resize the
  picture than arrows indicating same point of the picture... But in 
 WRİTER
  when you resize the picture than you arrow shapes not resizing?! 
 This is
  really big lack according to MS unfortunately?!
 
  Regards,
  Mucip:)
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Inserting DRAW file as linked OLE in WRITER file?

2014-03-20 Thread Mucip
Hi Owen,
Thanks. I will check the page...

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20-03-2014 03:14, Owen Genat [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] yazmış:
 You will need to rescale the ODG prior to inserting it as an OLE 
 object into the Writer document. There are some limits on how large 
 the Draw canvas can be before it is rescaled when imported via OLE. 
 Refer my explanation 
 http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2/size-of-odg-inserted-via-ole-in-odt/?answer=24459#post-id-24459
  on 
 AskLO.
 Best wishes, Owen. 





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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to put Basic IDE code completion to work

2014-03-20 Thread Miklos Vajna
Hi Fernand,

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 09:23:40PM +0100, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be 
wrote:
 hallo Miklos
 thanks but
 only  and ( are auto clossing
 dot operator is not functioning at all (maybe a keyboard problem ?)
 tab do nothing
 sub and Function not closing
 
 do i something wrong ?

I haven't tried this code completion feature myself, that's why I added
Gergo to CC.

Let's hope he'll have an answer soon. :-)

Miklos

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 3/16/2014 12:24 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:

I don't think the OP's original question silly.  I think he or she
wanted to know if LibréOffice's support for MS Office formats was
compatible with those of MS Office's.

A reasonable question, in my view.


If the question was is it 100% compatible, then yes, it is a very silly 
*and* unreasonable question - since even the different versions of 
Microsoft Office are not 100% compatible, and in my opinion, this is 
purely intentional to try to keep as many of their (microsofts) 
customers on the upgrade train as possible.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Turning spreadsheet data into legible report?

2014-03-20 Thread Gilles
Thanks everyone for the feedback.

As I learn more about spreadsheets, I thought merging all the years together
into a single sheet and filtering data so that the wordprocessor would only
see a subset of it would solve the issue... but it's not such a great idea
since some students will attend more than one year, so they'll end up having
more than one document in their name :-/

I guess it's an illustration that using a spreasheet as poorman's database
only works for basic, one-dimensional needs.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Turning spreadsheet data into legible report?

2014-03-20 Thread Gilles
Problem solved: Indeed, putting all the data into a single worksheet works
OK.

The only drawback is empty documents for kids who didn't attend a given
year, but this could be avoided by adding some conditional loop in the Word
mail merge document to avoid printing empty sections (eg. If
Trimester1-2013 is empty, don't display list).

Thanks all.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail merge with custom fields in LibreOffice 4.2

2014-03-20 Thread Mark Bourne
Alternatively, to save copying data into a common .ods file, you can 
keep one .odb file (e.g. mergesource.odb) but change which .ods file it 
points to. Open mergesource.odb, then Edit  Database  Properties, and 
change the path to spreadsheet document.


Saves a bit of copying data around, but I can see that might not be so 
easy as an instruction if there are non-technical users of your merge 
document. Whatever works for you and your users is best ;o)


Mark.


Steve Edmonds wrote:

And thanks to the discussion I think I have a much better understanding
and can iron out the problems our users are having with the merge.
We keep getting new lists to merge, all the same format. The secret to
simplification is, once set up, to have an ods named mergesource.ods or
something and then copy the new data in each time or save the new data
as mergesource.ods. Then a new .odb file is not created each merge, and
it is not necessary to exchange the database or re-link the fields.
Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-20 Thread e-letter
On 17/03/2014, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nothing happens when XML tags are ignored, to systems which are not
 supporting the ODF 1.2 Extended document format. This is the reason why
 we can suggest to use ODF 1.2 Extended as the preferred format, because
 backward compatibility is maintained.


Thanks to the odf implementor notes web page, how can this claim be
true when these LO features break odf validation?

 Somewhere in the wiki there is a list of the extended features, but
 please remember that we are speaking of a document format and not of
 software features. So, most of the new LibreOffice features do not
 impact the document format.


If LO feature (most likely designed to provide some sort of
compatibility with m$) prevent odf validation, the document format
must be impacted. Or is this a false conclusion?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-20 Thread Mark Bourne

e-letter wrote:

On 17/03/2014, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:


Nothing happens when XML tags are ignored, to systems which are not
supporting the ODF 1.2 Extended document format. This is the reason why
we can suggest to use ODF 1.2 Extended as the preferred format, because
backward compatibility is maintained.



Thanks to the odf implementor notes web page, how can this claim be
true when these LO features break odf validation?


I haven't seen anything to say that the extensions prevent validation of 
ODF documents. The implementer notes you refer to say, under Extension 
namespaces, Elements and attributes that are not defined in an ODF 
specification yet... have to be written with an extension namespace, 
otherwise validators will complain about invalid elements or 
attributes. This suggests that the standard and validators allow for 
extensions to the format.


Presumably extensions to the format would be ignored by applications not 
supporting that extension, but the rest of the document show as 
intended. e.g. with the extension for font embedding, applications 
supporting the extension would use the embedded fonts, while others 
would ignore the embedded fonts and use those on the system (as if the 
fonts were not embedded at all).



Somewhere in the wiki there is a list of the extended features, but
please remember that we are speaking of a document format and not of
software features. So, most of the new LibreOffice features do not
impact the document format.



If LO feature (most likely designed to provide some sort of
compatibility with m$) prevent odf validation, the document format
must be impacted. Or is this a false conclusion?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Inserting DRAW file as linked OLE in WRITER file?

2014-03-20 Thread Dale Rebgetz

On 20/03/2014 7:32 pm, Mucip wrote:

Hi Dale,
First of all I do not want to copy/paste from DRAW to WRITER. Because I
use same picture in many documents. I want to insert picture to the
document as linked. In this case when I change the main picture file
than all documents can change... This is very good for me... One change
(work) and many results... :)

According to my demand the best solution is inserting all pictures as
hard link in DRAW file and make all changes/arrows in DRAW file. And
inserting this file as hard linked to WRITER...

In this case you may double-click to DRAW OLE and open the source file.
Than you may change, adding arrow, shapes and return to main WRITER
file... The biggest problem in this situation is, when I do this than
size of the OLE container is changing. I can not fix the size of OLE and
visible region of the resource OLE file!...

Hmmm... I see you are no novice and you are making sound decisions. I 
have no experience or knowledge which can help you with your OLE 
problem. However Owen's investigations do look like they might be helpful.




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