[libreoffice-users] Re: ePub format
TomD wrote https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EPUB I dunno why people insist on using all capitals or putting spaces into urls but i've had trouble in the past with trying to get a consistent naming convention sorted out and it's led to duplicates needing to be merged. Thanks for the link. You have my sympathy, but in this case the specification / file format is referred to as EPUB and not ePub. I am not sure why the EPUB logo is displayed ePUB, especially given it states on the terms of use http://idpf.org/legal/terms-of-use page EPUB is a registered trademark of the IDPF. The apparently absent License Policy may contain further details. Best wishes, Owen. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ePub-format-tp4104665p4105040.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Possible LibreOffice Duplex Printing Bug
The reason I stated that was due to the fact that with the conversion process from the old legacy coding languages to Python [and such] many of the bugs are tracked down and removed. Also, that helps remove coding conflicts that might arise as the new fixes and features are added to the code base. Sure, I started out as a mainframe programmer using COBOL, FORTRAN, and a bunch of others. They were good languages. Then more modern ones were created that had more procedures and function built in, so the programmer did not have to try and code these functions himself/herself. The Object Oriented Programming came into being and changed the way programmers needed to think and create their programs using objects of code blocks that were reusable. Now, the current crop of programmers are taught OOP as the standard and the programming languages got better and better. As far as I am concerned, OOP coding is easer to use and debug [most times] than the way I had to do things back in my early programming work. As for bug testing and avoiding, yes analysis and practice is a key to any successful programmer and program package. BUT, the people who test out LO to find bugs may not find them all. Many of them are detected by the users with specific needs and specific usage of LO. I know I found a problem with one model of printer, and other have also with theirs. The RC bug testers do not have access to all of these different printers, OS versions, and the specific user setups that found the bug in the first place. We all are human and therefor not perfect users and programmers. One misplaced nil character where a space should be, or some other thing that is very hard to find, could really cause problems down the line with bugs that do not seem to be fixable or error messages that do not make sense. I had a single nil character problem that bugged me and my co-workers for weeks in a PASCAL language program. As for Windows XP being dumped by MS when maybe half of the world still use it and infrastructure is running it and would need a major overhaul to work with Win7 or 8.x, well people will say why did they not do it already. Others would reply - it works well so why fool with it. Then there are the Windows is the best computer OS out there statement when most of the Internet is based on Linux technology computers and other devices since it is the most stable platform for such communication infrastructure. The Os that is overtaking the PC market, that some people say is killing the PC market, is Android which is a Linux-based OS. Then there are all these articles I have seen that tell XP users to switch to Linux Mint if you do not want to go to Win7 or 8.x, or there systems too old and slow to use those modern Windows operating systems. I have a guy who never heard of Linux ask me to convert his old HP system to Linux Mint [with MATE] since he read an article somewhere telling him that was the way to go. I am loaning him an old/slow system with Mint on it so he can play with it to see if he would want to really switch or should I add more ram and such to help his system be able to use Win7. We all have out pet peeves about programming languages, bug control, which OS is the best for who, which software is best for what, etc., etc.. I have seen good programs turn towards bad, and bad programs turn around and be good ones to use. I saw GIMP change its save options so you can no longer save formats like JPG and PNG, so not you have to use a different option to export to these standard formats, instead of saving to their proprietary formats. I moved from MS Office to OpenOffice.org, to LibreOffice [spring 2010], and seen LO become the best FOSS alternatives to MSO, while MSO keeps messing around with their menu systems and not making their .docx files backward compatible with their older version of MSO. On 04/10/2014 11:46 AM, CVAlkan wrote: So sorry if my comments were misinterpreted - Tom's is one of the few names that I recognize so I know he's on board. I am concerned, however, with your suggestion that modern languages reduce bugs. They might make it easier to avoid bugs, or make it easier to spot bugs, but the only thing that will reduce bugs is analysis, practice, analysis, practice and more analysis. Sorry if that seems cynical, but the great Admiral Grace Hopper and her team, for instance, introduced the idea of subroutines back in the early 1950s in order to help reduce bugs - we later migrated from subroutines to object libraries and a wide variety of other approaches. The point is not that these aren't welcome improvements and all, but I think we tend to depend way too much on the tools/languages/whatever than they deserve (however good they may be). The other thing I alluded to was the sheer magnitude of creating any sort of regression testing suite for something like LO (to say nothing of the space shuttle or your
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Possible LibreOffice Duplex Printing Bug
On 04/10/2014 11:53 AM, CVAlkan wrote: Re: Also I use CUPS-PDF for my default printer, so I can print pages from a browser and skip those pages I do not want/need to print. I hadn't thought of that, but coincidentally I just opened a new ink cartridge from HP and found a promotion for something they call Smart Print, a (seems to be) free downloadable app to do just that (pick and choose what elements of a web page are printed). Unfortunately, as is fairly common, there is no Linux version. I wrote to them, of course, suggesting that their HP-LIP folks might take a look at it to see if they could do a Unix version. Check with the UK sites. Canon, and others, do not support Linux printer drivers in the US web site but has the needed packages/drivers in their UK sites. That is how I get my Canon Printer drivers. It would be nice to have the HPLIP drivers include all of the options as the Windows drivers do, but that is just wishful thinking. Until there is a larger market of Linux users, it might never happen. I think that it would be good to have better Android printing options to you networked printers. They mostly use a Windows print server app running in the background on your Win7 or 8.x systems. I might be nice to print directly from the Android devices with wifi connections to your network and the network connected printers. Right now, LO does not deal with web browsing, so having an add on to print specific paper page sheets of a web site printout, might not be something the developers would need in an Office suite. Using CUPS-PDF for Linux and doPDF for Windows works fine for that type of job. What LO might do is make PDF editing a little better within Draw. Or one day make a good PDF to .odt converter add on. As for HP ink, well I use the ink tank technology ink cartridges instead of the ink and print head in one cartridge technology. Then I use non-OEM ink that is a forth to a half the price of the OEM ink. For Canon printers I get 3 or 4 sets of XL ink for the price of Canon's standard OEM ink cartridges, more with the OEM XL ink pricing. About the same with the HP ink I use. Same with the HP non-OEM laser printer toner. For anyone who might be willing to write a macro or add-in for LibreOffice, the site www.hp.com/go/smartprint/offers gives an overview of what the app does. If such an app could be made to work with web pages and possibly pdf files, I suspect it might be a pretty popular download ... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Possible-LibreOffice-Duplex-Printing-Bug-tp4104713p4104813.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2
On 04/11/2014 06:30 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:20:33 -0400 charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com wrote: I only have a standard sd card - tablet requires a micro sd card and the process look complicated on this tablet. The material can not be shared via cloud. I don't know what ssh is? Or where to find it? The inadequate tech support had me download KIES software which never connected my PC to the tablet after installing it. One option would be to go to almost any store that has cameras/computers and purchase an SD card with a Micro-SD card attached. Download to the micro-SD then plug it into the regular SD and plug that into the computer which should be able to read it. About half of my SD cards are microSD with the SD adapter. Sometimes cheaper deals that way. I have 4GB to 32GB microSD cards that I use them either as microSD cards or as full size SD cards. SSH stands for Secure SHell. If you don't know how to use that don't even attempt to use it. Unless you want to transfer private (personal) data there is no need for it. Tom, list moderator On 4/11/14, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, charles meyer wrote: Might anyone on the list be using a Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2? I've been enjoying a Dickens of a time trying to get it to sync with my PC so I can transfer a video file *from* the tablet to the PC. Samsung tech support has been abysmal and Google results have been mostly older posts for older tablets or for transferring files *from* a PC to the tablet that don't work for transferring a video file *from* the tablet to the PC. Thank you, have you tried saving the file to the (external) sd card and slipping it into your pc? can you install ssh on the tab? can you save it to the 'cloud', e.g. google-drive and download it to the pc from there? F. -- Felmon Davis Only through hard work and perseverance can one truly suffer. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Endnote references get corrupted with copy+paste
I'm running into a problem in 4.2.2.1 (and possibly even earlier releases) with endnotes/references getting corrupted after copy+paste operations. I reported the bug on the bug tracking site, and attached a small file to show how it can be reproduced: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77342 I wanted to ask here if anyone might have any suggestions for workarounds in the meantime. The document that I'm working on is a large book with sections for each chapter. In each section, I create endnotes and also cross-references to the endnotes (some references are mentioned multiple times). It's these cross-references that get messed up after cutting+pasting arbitrary text. I haven't figured out what pattern of endnote definitions and cross-reference additions triggers the problem (and thus what to avoid as a possible workaround), but the document attached in the bug report shows an example. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Kartik -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:47:03 -0400 charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com wrote: Might anyone on the list be using a Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2? I've been enjoying a Dickens of a time trying to get it to sync with my PC so I can transfer a video file *from* the tablet to the PC. [snip] This question would be better-posted to an Android forum, such as androidcentral.com, androidtablets.net or androidforums.com, IMO. That being said: I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. I've transferred files between my three Android devices and my computers in each of the following ways: USB connection. Tablet or phone looks to the computer like a USB file system. You may have to go into Settings (on my Samsung tablet it's Settings - Storage - USB computer connection) to set the connection type. (I'm not running Samsung's broken Android implementation, anymore, either.) MicroSD card. 8GB microSD cards are both as cheap and as common as dirt. SMB (aka: Microsoft Windows file sharing), using ES File Explorer on the Android device, with the directory on the computer side shared to the LAN. Via DropBox. Copy/move the file(2) to/from DropBox on one device, and the same on another. On the computer side you can use a web interface or DropBox' software. I also once used VXConnectBot's built-in file transfer capability, when I was logged-in to a machine at work from my tablet. (VXConnectBot is an SSH application for Android). Btw: Android devices don't sync with a PC or other device like, for example, PalmOS devices used to. (And more's the shame, IMO.) You can get a connection, and manually shuffle files back and forth, but there's no syncing, per se. I believe there are some apps that have syncing ability, but not the entire device. Good luck and HTH. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] old versions
Hi :) I wouldn't bother. Just use native ODF format. Older versions are compatible with newer ones and newer ones with older. The only problem is if you use newer features. In which case the older version might not be able to show soem of the result but then when re-opened with the newer version it'll be there. I'm on 3.5.7 on this machine and at least 1 other and, of course, all LiveUsb sessions of Ubuntu 12.04. I've never yet had a problem sharing files with other machine on 4.1.x or higher. Admittedly i'm not using advanced functionality though. The 'newest' feature i use is plonking in logos in svg format! Note that if you take any office suite or program and wiped out around 80% of it's functionality then 80-90 of it's users would never notice. Regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 00:22, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: thanks. I'll pass this on along with the long term advice On 12/04/14 09:10, Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-12 1:02 GMT+02:00 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com: My simple solution is to install 3.5.7.2 on his desktop. Maybe he gets lucky and it is available through the package manager (it isn't in Fedora 20). So I had a look at the download section of the website which only offers the 4.x series. Any ideas how I would go about downloading 3.5.x versions of LO? Short answer: http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ Long(er?) answer: update to newer version, check files, fix small things that's not right (if needed of course...). It's some work, but way easier than keeping old versions in the long term :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?
Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is able to view ePub files? If so you might be interested in viewing one of our Published Guides and hopefully give the Docs Team, or just me or Peter some feedback on any problems or other issues you notice. Note that Peter did the work on this guide and has also been one of the many people testing various ways of producing ePub from ODF files. Whereas i have just been copypasting or forwarding odd bitsbobs between the various mailing-lists Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 11:22, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote: Hello Another sample of an LO chapter in ePub format at the following link to my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xick4zzbzc4peny/test%20chapter.epub This sample was created as a blank document in LO Writer and using standard style names where possible, for example Heading 1, Heading 2,Text Body, and so on. I did create a couple of styles to use for the note and tip that are in the sample. I then used to eLAIX toolbar in LO Writer when formatting the text and exporting to ePub format. There is a couple of points to note if we are going to use ePub format for our guides: 1. The font will change to Times when exporting, but relevant font size and colour are kept. 2. Any figures cannot be placed in LO frames, but have to be inserted without a frame to show after ePub conversion. 3. You cannot use tables for Notes, Tips, or Cautions because you cannot control the width of the table when you export. This is why they appear a little different in the sample. 4. What you see will depend on your display resolution and size. Also the size of the window when you open the sample in an ePub reader will affect how it looks. The ePub format is a flexible format that changes to suit when a reader opens a file. 5. Any template for creating an ePub guide is going to have to be very simple so that it does run foul of the restricted formatting used when creating this type of document. Does anybody know of an ePub creator that is free and easy to use, that is not having to enter HTML code to get the right format to display when you create an ePub document. I have tried Sigil, which is not bad, but still trying to work out how to use it correctly. Please let me know what you think. Regards PeterS - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Manuals-in-ePub-format-tp4104451p4104915.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?
Hi :) Blimey! The docs team already gave some feedback and Peter Schofield has already produced a 2nd draft as a result! https://www.dropbox.com/s/adwaebcgmvymp8o/calibre%20test%20chapter%20-%20Peter%20Schofield.epub This one is probably better to give feedback on Thanks and regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 10:50, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is able to view ePub files? If so you might be interested in viewing one of our Published Guides and hopefully give the Docs Team, or just me or Peter some feedback on any problems or other issues you notice. Note that Peter did the work on this guide and has also been one of the many people testing various ways of producing ePub from ODF files. Whereas i have just been copypasting or forwarding odd bitsbobs between the various mailing-lists Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 11:22, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote: Hello Another sample of an LO chapter in ePub format at the following link to my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xick4zzbzc4peny/test%20chapter.epub This sample was created as a blank document in LO Writer and using standard style names where possible, for example Heading 1, Heading 2,Text Body, and so on. I did create a couple of styles to use for the note and tip that are in the sample. I then used to eLAIX toolbar in LO Writer when formatting the text and exporting to ePub format. There is a couple of points to note if we are going to use ePub format for our guides: 1. The font will change to Times when exporting, but relevant font size and colour are kept. 2. Any figures cannot be placed in LO frames, but have to be inserted without a frame to show after ePub conversion. 3. You cannot use tables for Notes, Tips, or Cautions because you cannot control the width of the table when you export. This is why they appear a little different in the sample. 4. What you see will depend on your display resolution and size. Also the size of the window when you open the sample in an ePub reader will affect how it looks. The ePub format is a flexible format that changes to suit when a reader opens a file. 5. Any template for creating an ePub guide is going to have to be very simple so that it does run foul of the restricted formatting used when creating this type of document. Does anybody know of an ePub creator that is free and easy to use, that is not having to enter HTML code to get the right format to display when you create an ePub document. I have tried Sigil, which is not bad, but still trying to work out how to use it correctly. Please let me know what you think. Regards PeterS - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Manuals-in-ePub-format-tp4104451p4104915.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ration by default?
Hello, I can hardly understand the choice made in the default behavior when resizing an image. Most of the time, if not always, when I resize an image it is because it is too large and I resize it so its dimension will fit the content design. I very rarely need to flatten or distort an image in any direction. So, for my use case, resizing an image should keep the ratio by default, and for the rare situation when flattening is needed pressing additional keys (shift or whatever) or simply using other handlers than the corner ones would do the trick. However this is not the choice which has been made in LibreOffice, and moreover this behavior is not even configurable. The non-configurable default behavior is to flatten the image, no matter the handler which has been used, and for the supposedly “rare” case when the user would-like to keep the ratio he can use his both hands, pressing shift key on the keyboard while using the mouse to select and drag the handle without releasing the shift key... which may pose severe accessibility limitation for not computer friendly people. What I would-like to understand is why this choice has been made? Is my use-case so strange and unusual ? Do common people most often need to flatten the image and not keeping their ratio ? Why this default behavior is not even configurable? When I look on the Internet I can see such question arise from time to time, but with no real answer. LibreOffice is a nice software and I would-like to defend it again accusation it is a crappy things... but here, when you have to tell a casual user who is used to just use the mouse to easily resize an image (like it does not only on other well known document editors but also on wysiwyg web editors), that here he will have to use this complex and counter-intuitive procedure just because there is no other way, I do not see how to present it as an evolution :(... Thank by advance you for you suggestions, Regards, Simon. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Any-reason-why-resizing-an-image-does-not-keep-aspect-ration-by-default-tp4105095.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?
Viewed epub using samsung s4. Do I respond here or to the team? On Apr 12, 2014 10:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Blimey! The docs team already gave some feedback and Peter Schofield has already produced a 2nd draft as a result! https://www.dropbox.com/s/adwaebcgmvymp8o/calibre%20test%20chapter%20-%20Peter%20Schofield.epub This one is probably better to give feedback on Thanks and regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 10:50, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is able to view ePub files? If so you might be interested in viewing one of our Published Guides and hopefully give the Docs Team, or just me or Peter some feedback on any problems or other issues you notice. Note that Peter did the work on this guide and has also been one of the many people testing various ways of producing ePub from ODF files. Whereas i have just been copypasting or forwarding odd bitsbobs between the various mailing-lists Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 11:22, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote: Hello Another sample of an LO chapter in ePub format at the following link to my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xick4zzbzc4peny/test%20chapter.epub This sample was created as a blank document in LO Writer and using standard style names where possible, for example Heading 1, Heading 2,Text Body, and so on. I did create a couple of styles to use for the note and tip that are in the sample. I then used to eLAIX toolbar in LO Writer when formatting the text and exporting to ePub format. There is a couple of points to note if we are going to use ePub format for our guides: 1. The font will change to Times when exporting, but relevant font size and colour are kept. 2. Any figures cannot be placed in LO frames, but have to be inserted without a frame to show after ePub conversion. 3. You cannot use tables for Notes, Tips, or Cautions because you cannot control the width of the table when you export. This is why they appear a little different in the sample. 4. What you see will depend on your display resolution and size. Also the size of the window when you open the sample in an ePub reader will affect how it looks. The ePub format is a flexible format that changes to suit when a reader opens a file. 5. Any template for creating an ePub guide is going to have to be very simple so that it does run foul of the restricted formatting used when creating this type of document. Does anybody know of an ePub creator that is free and easy to use, that is not having to enter HTML code to get the right format to display when you create an ePub document. I have tried Sigil, which is not bad, but still trying to work out how to use it correctly. Please let me know what you think. Regards PeterS - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Manuals-in-ePub-format-tp4104451p4104915.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ration by default?
2014-04-12 20:48 GMT+02:00 Simon gzb...@yahoo.fr: Is my use-case so strange and unusual ? No, not unusual at all. I have a hard time imagining use cases where you don't want to keep the aspect ratio. Do common people most often need to flatten the image and not keeping their ratio ? Far too often I'm working with peoples just trying to fit an image somewhere. They would probably find it hard to understand why the image shrink in both dimensions when they are pulling only one way. It is sad but it happen. Why this default behavior is not even configurable? That I can vouch for. Whatever the rationale behind the default behavior is, having an option to change it seem reasonable. There is a lot of options that would seem obscur but would greatly increase flexibility. Perhaps it would be reasonable to have two option dialogs: the current one, which is relatively user friendly, and a second one, more like the about:config page in firefox. -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ratio by default?
At 11:48 12/04/2014 -0700, Simon Noname wrote: I can hardly understand the choice made in the default behavior when resizing an image. Most of the time, if not always, when I resize an image it is because it is too large and I resize it so its dimension will fit the content design. I very rarely need to flatten or distort an image in any direction. So, for my use case, resizing an image should keep the ratio by default, and for the rare situation when flattening is needed pressing additional keys (shift or whatever) or simply using other handlers than the corner ones would do the trick. However this is not the choice which has been made in LibreOffice, and moreover this behavior is not even configurable. [...] What I would like to understand is why this choice has been made? I won't attempt to defend this decision, but I think I can see its logic or origin. The default behaviour is to resize - and reshape - the image in exactly the way that the mouse dragging is indicating, without any other consideration. The alternative behaviour modifies this by taking into account another parameter: the original aspect ratio. The choice appears to be based on logic rather than convenience, using the additional key operation to add an additional constraint rather than to remove one. Is my use-case so strange and unusual ? No. Do common people most often need to flatten the image and not keeping their ratio ? Probably not. (I'm a common person; I usually don't.) Why this default behavior is not even configurable? Dunno. ... you have to tell a casual user who is used to just use the mouse to easily resize an image (like it does not only on other well known document editors but also on wysiwyg web editors), ... Perhaps those responsible for this (other) software got fed up with seeing so may distorted images - especially of faces and so on - on web sites and the like that they decided to give in and make it easier for users not to make that mistake. Sorry this is no help! Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?
Hi :) To the Docs Team would be best but it's an imperfect world so feel free to comment here or to me or PeeWee. Regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 20:13, Jacqueline Tarleton jacqueline.tarle...@gmail.comwrote: Viewed epub using samsung s4. Do I respond here or to the team? On Apr 12, 2014 10:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Blimey! The docs team already gave some feedback and Peter Schofield has already produced a 2nd draft as a result! https://www.dropbox.com/s/adwaebcgmvymp8o/calibre%20test%20chapter%20-%20Peter%20Schofield.epub This one is probably better to give feedback on Thanks and regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 10:50, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is able to view ePub files? If so you might be interested in viewing one of our Published Guides and hopefully give the Docs Team, or just me or Peter some feedback on any problems or other issues you notice. Note that Peter did the work on this guide and has also been one of the many people testing various ways of producing ePub from ODF files. Whereas i have just been copypasting or forwarding odd bitsbobs between the various mailing-lists Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 11:22, PeeWee psaut...@libreoffice.org wrote: Hello Another sample of an LO chapter in ePub format at the following link to my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xick4zzbzc4peny/test%20chapter.epub This sample was created as a blank document in LO Writer and using standard style names where possible, for example Heading 1, Heading 2,Text Body, and so on. I did create a couple of styles to use for the note and tip that are in the sample. I then used to eLAIX toolbar in LO Writer when formatting the text and exporting to ePub format. There is a couple of points to note if we are going to use ePub format for our guides: 1. The font will change to Times when exporting, but relevant font size and colour are kept. 2. Any figures cannot be placed in LO frames, but have to be inserted without a frame to show after ePub conversion. 3. You cannot use tables for Notes, Tips, or Cautions because you cannot control the width of the table when you export. This is why they appear a little different in the sample. 4. What you see will depend on your display resolution and size. Also the size of the window when you open the sample in an ePub reader will affect how it looks. The ePub format is a flexible format that changes to suit when a reader opens a file. 5. Any template for creating an ePub guide is going to have to be very simple so that it does run foul of the restricted formatting used when creating this type of document. Does anybody know of an ePub creator that is free and easy to use, that is not having to enter HTML code to get the right format to display when you create an ePub document. I have tried Sigil, which is not bad, but still trying to work out how to use it correctly. Please let me know what you think. Regards PeterS - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Manuals-in-ePub-format-tp4104451p4104915.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this
Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LibreOffice on the command line to batch convert .htm files to .html files
Hi :) That's the common-sense answer. The logicians were too caught up in following the instructions too accurately and truthfully, in much the same away that you and Brian were. It was amusing to see a real-world example :) (and i'm guessing that's why Brian said it) Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 23:54, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:36:17 +0100 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: 3 logicians went into a bar. The barman asked do you all want a beer? The first says dunno so the 2nd says dunno too and that means the 3rd is able to say Yes because now he knows both the others do too. Heh, thanks, I always wondered what the gag was meant to be. Given the barman's question, I always figured the first one's answer should be: No, thanks, I'd like one just for me. Paul -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ratio by default?
Hi :) Maybe a bug-report / feature-request to ask for a change? It would make sense to me if grabbing the corners kept the aspect-ratio but grabbing the sides, or top or bottom allowed you to distort the image. Inkscape does it by showing the width and height of the current selection and then has a chain-lock between them. When it's locked the image keeps it's aspect ratio. I had no idea about the shift key locking the aspect-ratio so thanks for helping make that easier for me! Errr, i often find people distort logos and images even though they use packages that supposedly make it easy to keep them undistorted. Regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 20:55, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 11:48 12/04/2014 -0700, Simon Noname wrote: I can hardly understand the choice made in the default behavior when resizing an image. Most of the time, if not always, when I resize an image it is because it is too large and I resize it so its dimension will fit the content design. I very rarely need to flatten or distort an image in any direction. So, for my use case, resizing an image should keep the ratio by default, and for the rare situation when flattening is needed pressing additional keys (shift or whatever) or simply using other handlers than the corner ones would do the trick. However this is not the choice which has been made in LibreOffice, and moreover this behavior is not even configurable. [...] What I would like to understand is why this choice has been made? I won't attempt to defend this decision, but I think I can see its logic or origin. The default behaviour is to resize - and reshape - the image in exactly the way that the mouse dragging is indicating, without any other consideration. The alternative behaviour modifies this by taking into account another parameter: the original aspect ratio. The choice appears to be based on logic rather than convenience, using the additional key operation to add an additional constraint rather than to remove one. Is my use-case so strange and unusual ? No. Do common people most often need to flatten the image and not keeping their ratio ? Probably not. (I'm a common person; I usually don't.) Why this default behavior is not even configurable? Dunno. ... you have to tell a casual user who is used to just use the mouse to easily resize an image (like it does not only on other well known document editors but also on wysiwyg web editors), ... Perhaps those responsible for this (other) software got fed up with seeing so may distorted images - especially of faces and so on - on web sites and the like that they decided to give in and make it easier for users not to make that mistake. Sorry this is no help! Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LibreOffice on the command line to batch convert .htm files to .html files
Grrr, i wish i could take back my last post! On 12 April 2014 22:57, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) That's the common-sense answer. The logicians were too caught up in following the instructions too accurately and truthfully, in much the same away that you and Brian were. It was amusing to see a real-world example :) (and i'm guessing that's why Brian said it) Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 23:54, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:36:17 +0100 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: 3 logicians went into a bar. The barman asked do you all want a beer? The first says dunno so the 2nd says dunno too and that means the 3rd is able to say Yes because now he knows both the others do too. Heh, thanks, I always wondered what the gag was meant to be. Given the barman's question, I always figured the first one's answer should be: No, thanks, I'd like one just for me. Paul -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
