Re: [libreoffice-users] Manifeste

2014-04-16 Thread Sophie
Hi Jean-François, all,
Le 16/04/2014 07:16, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit :
 Re,
 
 Le 16/04/2014 07:11, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 suite à des échanges en privé, j'ai actualisé et amélioré mon manifeste,
 joint en version 1.7. En particulier j'ai ajouté un paragraphe à propos
 du support. Merci à Nicolas Abel.

 
 Bon, double plantage neuronal... Les PJ ne passent pas ici et je visais
 discuss et non users. Pas réveillé, désolé pour le bruit.

No problem, seems you miss some coffee ;)
@all, this mail is intended to the French list.

Cheers
Sophie


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ration by default?

2014-04-16 Thread CVAlkan
I've become used to the idea that I need to use the Shift key for resizing
graphics, but was glad to hear that an option to set that default behavior
will be in 4.3.

As far as I can tell, however, there is no option to do so in the alpha
version of 4.3 which I am currently using.

Or, am I looking in the wrong place? Or is it just not available yet?

Thanks.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen

2014-04-16 Thread dollyp
Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having
the possibility of accessing their start screen.

David



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[libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Virgil Arrington
I've discovered another neat reason to use character styles instead of 
direct character formatting. We've already discussed the advantage of 
changing character formatting document-wide by just changing the style.


I've always used Ctrl-B for boldface and Ctrl-I for Italics in providing 
direct character formatting to my text. I didn't want to be bothered by 
character styles. But, on occasion, I want to clean up a document by 
removing direct paragraph formatting (Ctrl-M). When I do that, it clears 
*all* direct formatting, whether paragraph or character, so I end up 
losing all my bold and italics.


But, I've now learned to use the character styles Emphasis for Italics 
and Strong Emphasis for boldface instead of the direct bold and Italics 
commands. Then when I hit Ctrl-M to clean up formatting, then my 
boldface and Italics are preserved, because they are controlled by 
character styles rather than direct formatting.


This has been a major change in the way I've worked over the years, but 
I think as I get used to it, I'll really like it and the greater control 
I'll get over my work.


What's interesting is that this is the way LaTeX editors like LyX work 
by default. It's second nature in LyX, because that's the *only* way it 
works. But because of LO's open model (a billion ways of accomplishing 
the same task), I've had to adjust how I work with the office suite.


Virgil

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[libreoffice-users] Dragon Medical2 Libre

2014-04-16 Thread Brian A. Colucci

Greetings To The Libre Office World!

We have been successfully using Libre Office 4.1 with Dragon Medical2, 
running on Windows 7, 64 bit, since January of this year. Most 
everything works well with the integration between Libre Office Writer, 
and Dragon Medical2, even the field advance buttons on the Dictaphone 
Powermic2 units work well.


Our one area of concern is with our medical, Open Document Templates.  
As the user goes through the template field, using the next field key on 
the Powermic2, when they begin to dictate into some of these fields the 
text comes out in Bold Style, despite the fact that the field is 
indicated in the template as standard text. These ODT files work 
correctly in MS Office, and Nuance, the makers of Dragon state that only 
MS products are supported.


We are looking for a coding consultant who can assist us in correcting 
this issue.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between
providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to
do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is
something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by
getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if
I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really
appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character
can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use
styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way,
you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing
others. But that requires starting to really think about the
architecture of your information.

Regards,



On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I've discovered another neat reason to use character styles instead of
 direct character formatting. We've already discussed the advantage of
 changing character formatting document-wide by just changing the style.

 I've always used Ctrl-B for boldface and Ctrl-I for Italics in providing
 direct character formatting to my text. I didn't want to be bothered by
 character styles. But, on occasion, I want to clean up a document by
 removing direct paragraph formatting (Ctrl-M). When I do that, it clears
 *all* direct formatting, whether paragraph or character, so I end up losing
 all my bold and italics.

 But, I've now learned to use the character styles Emphasis for Italics and
 Strong Emphasis for boldface instead of the direct bold and Italics
 commands. Then when I hit Ctrl-M to clean up formatting, then my boldface
 and Italics are preserved, because they are controlled by character styles
 rather than direct formatting.

 This has been a major change in the way I've worked over the years, but I
 think as I get used to it, I'll really like it and the greater control I'll
 get over my work.

 What's interesting is that this is the way LaTeX editors like LyX work by
 default. It's second nature in LyX, because that's the *only* way it works.
 But because of LO's open model (a billion ways of accomplishing the same
 task), I've had to adjust how I work with the office suite.

 Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Nice! :)  I wonder if you can reconfigure the
Ctrl B
combo to apply the relevant style instead of just making it bold
temporarily?
Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 April 2014 19:06, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I've discovered another neat reason to use character styles instead of
 direct character formatting. We've already discussed the advantage of
 changing character formatting document-wide by just changing the style.

 I've always used Ctrl-B for boldface and Ctrl-I for Italics in providing
 direct character formatting to my text. I didn't want to be bothered by
 character styles. But, on occasion, I want to clean up a document by
 removing direct paragraph formatting (Ctrl-M). When I do that, it clears
 *all* direct formatting, whether paragraph or character, so I end up losing
 all my bold and italics.

 But, I've now learned to use the character styles Emphasis for Italics and
 Strong Emphasis for boldface instead of the direct bold and Italics
 commands. Then when I hit Ctrl-M to clean up formatting, then my boldface
 and Italics are preserved, because they are controlled by character styles
 rather than direct formatting.

 This has been a major change in the way I've worked over the years, but I
 think as I get used to it, I'll really like it and the greater control I'll
 get over my work.

 What's interesting is that this is the way LaTeX editors like LyX work by
 default. It's second nature in LyX, because that's the *only* way it works.
 But because of LO's open model (a billion ways of accomplishing the same
 task), I've had to adjust how I work with the office suite.

 Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Virgil Arrington


On 04/16/2014 03:19 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Nice! :)  I wonder if you can reconfigure the
Ctrl B
combo to apply the relevant style instead of just making it bold 
temporarily?

Regards from
Tom :)


Yes, you can, but I found you don't want to.

In the Tools/Customize dialogs, you can assign any style to a keystroke 
combination. I tried it by reassigning Ctrl-B to the Strong Emphasis 
character style and Ctrl-I to the Emphasis style. But, unlike the direct 
formatting commands, these don't *toggle* the attribute. So, if while 
typing, I hit Ctrl-B, then everything after it applies the Strong 
Emphasis character style. If I hit Ctrl-B again, it *doesn't* turn it 
off. So, I reassigned those keystrokes to their toggled effects.


Instead, I assigned Alt-B and Alt-I to the respective character styles. 
Then, I assigned Alt-D to the Default character style. Now, I can 
apply the desired style quickly while typing without altering the 
default behavior of the program for those times when I might need it.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think you have gone into quite advanced usages of styles.  To start with
i kept it extremely simple and mixed in some direct formatting too.

It took a while to get used to direct formatting too but that was so long
ago now that it's difficult to remember.  Most of my colleagues don't know
key-combos such as Ctrl B.  They reach for the mouse.

Even so people sometimes don't realise those are toggle-switches and tend
to select an area of text and 'have' to be taught that they don't need to.
[Grrr, taught bad habits iow]

Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 April 2014 21:08, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between
 providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to
 do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is
 something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by
 getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if
 I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really
 appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character
 can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use
 styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way,
 you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing
 others. But that requires starting to really think about the
 architecture of your information.

 Regards,



 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I've discovered another neat reason to use character styles instead of
  direct character formatting. We've already discussed the advantage of
  changing character formatting document-wide by just changing the style.
 
  I've always used Ctrl-B for boldface and Ctrl-I for Italics in providing
  direct character formatting to my text. I didn't want to be bothered by
  character styles. But, on occasion, I want to clean up a document by
  removing direct paragraph formatting (Ctrl-M). When I do that, it clears
  *all* direct formatting, whether paragraph or character, so I end up
 losing
  all my bold and italics.
 
  But, I've now learned to use the character styles Emphasis for Italics
 and
  Strong Emphasis for boldface instead of the direct bold and Italics
  commands. Then when I hit Ctrl-M to clean up formatting, then my boldface
  and Italics are preserved, because they are controlled by character
 styles
  rather than direct formatting.
 
  This has been a major change in the way I've worked over the years, but I
  think as I get used to it, I'll really like it and the greater control
 I'll
  get over my work.
 
  What's interesting is that this is the way LaTeX editors like LyX work by
  default. It's second nature in LyX, because that's the *only* way it
 works.
  But because of LO's open model (a billion ways of accomplishing the same
  task), I've had to adjust how I work with the office suite.
 
  Virgil
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Virgil Arrington


On 04/16/2014 04:08 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between
providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to
do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is
something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by
getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if
I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really
appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character
can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use
styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way,
you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing
others. But that requires starting to really think about the
architecture of your information.

Regards,


Good points, Kevin. I'm learning that using styles takes a lot of 
thought and planning. I like the way I can customize LO to make it do 
amazing things. But, it can't be done thoughtlessly, or you'll end up 
redoing stuff later on.


It occurs to me that, when we create style definitions, what we're 
really doing is making LO work more like LyX. The difference is that, 
with LyX, somebody else has already created really good styles (called 
environments) thus shielding the user from the need to create them. 
Problem is, when the pre-created environments don't meet your needs, you 
have a steep learning curve to try to change them. With LO, you can much 
more easily create and modify styles, but, if you want really good 
output, you *have* to create and modify your styles, and that takes 
thoughtful planning. For a person just wanting to get his project done, 
the need to create and customize the styles seems to get in the way. 
It's as if each user is actually finishing LO by making it work the 
way s/he prefers. In creating my LO styles, I've tried to use LyX 
environments as a model, mimicking their output, and tweaking where I 
find it helpful.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Neat.  I was wondering what work-around you would find.

The only one i thought of was to try to remember that i would have to
select an area of text to make bold instead of doing the toggling method.
I think your way is better though.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


On 16 April 2014 22:29, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:


 On 04/16/2014 03:19 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Nice! :)  I wonder if you can reconfigure the
 Ctrl B
 combo to apply the relevant style instead of just making it bold
 temporarily?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 Yes, you can, but I found you don't want to.

 In the Tools/Customize dialogs, you can assign any style to a keystroke
 combination. I tried it by reassigning Ctrl-B to the Strong Emphasis
 character style and Ctrl-I to the Emphasis style. But, unlike the direct
 formatting commands, these don't *toggle* the attribute. So, if while
 typing, I hit Ctrl-B, then everything after it applies the Strong Emphasis
 character style. If I hit Ctrl-B again, it *doesn't* turn it off. So, I
 reassigned those keystrokes to their toggled effects.

 Instead, I assigned Alt-B and Alt-I to the respective character styles.
 Then, I assigned Alt-D to the Default character style. Now, I can apply
 the desired style quickly while typing without altering the default
 behavior of the program for those times when I might need it.

 Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Torrent download always crash

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
msi is a good one for an antivirus to scan for but crashing it's download
doesn't sound right.  Avira need to fix something there!

Thanks for checking all this so thoroughly and giving feedback!

I hope you have a happy easter!  errr, and to all the rest of the list too
of course :D
Regards from
Tom :)



On 15 April 2014 12:20, minos pet...@mh8.no-ip.org wrote:

 Hey,

 About antivirus... no false-positive, no message from antivirus...
 My only test was to disable the antivirus during the torrent download, and
 it has been 100% downloaded without active antivirus.
 May be a lucky moment... :s
 Antivirus used is free Avira Antivir. I think this one is scanning .msi on
 default set up.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
I agree.  It is more of an issue now the start screen is so much nicer
looking and more useful.  Posting a feature-request through the bug-report
system would be fantastic.  Ideally with someone who feels fairly strongly
about it rather than someone good at coding.  David, are you up for it?
Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 April 2014 13:57, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote:

 Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having
 the possibility of accessing their start screen.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: ADD NEW MENU BUTTON IN CALC MENUBAR

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Someone kindly pointed out that code can be rolled out to multiple machines
using a patch file.  I don't know how to do that but the o.p. does.

So now the main question is how to get the source code of a button.

Side issue is knowing if it's possible to write a button as an Extension or
as a macro or can a macro be an Extension?  I guess this is something for
the devs rather than this list?  I know this is all beyond me!

Apols, regards and happy easter from
Tom :)




On 15 April 2014 14:09, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 Part of the question is how to get hold of that code.

 I guess it might make sense to get one button set-up that way, get to the
 code for it and modify that code.  Then the question would be how to roll
 it out across many machines.

 Is it possible to write a button as an Extension?  Could an Extension be
 rolled out across multiple machines without requiring user intervention?
 Would this be better done through the xcu(?) registry thing in Windows?

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 15 April 2014 13:33, Alex McMurchy 
 mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I add new menubars/toolbars and button via the menu

 Tools - Customise

 The code behind the button would have already been written as a macro.

 However, Rajiv explicitly states that he wants to

  add a functionality to it without using customizing toolbar

 If that's the case it would be a question on the developers list.
 Alternatively get the code and debug what happens to an existing button.

 Alex

 On Tuesday 15 Apr 2014 10:24:20 Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  Sorry you are not getting any answers from this mailing list!  I guess
 none
  of us know.  Please could you try asking on the Ask LO thing?
  http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/
 
  There are also mailing lists for various different languages and also
 many
  3rd party sites can help with LibreOffice now.  Since you are in India
 you
  might find this project;
  http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/
  enormously helpful.  They even have their own forums.
 
  Given how long you have been waiting for an answer and given that you
  question is quite technical i would ask in 3 or maybe even 4 different
  places and maybe link between them when you get a good answer, if you
 have
  the time.   This tactic helps spread the knowledge further.
 
  Apols and regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  On 14 April 2014 03:43, Rajiv Yadav rkyadav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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   From: Rajiv Yadav rkyadav...@gmail.com
   Date: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM
   Subject: ADD NEW MENU BUTTON IN CALC MENUBAR
   To: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
  
  
   Sir,
   I want to add new button calc menubar, further to add a functionality
 to it
   without using customizing toolbar where the source file that can be
   modified to add new menu button .
  
   regards
   rajiv
   Pune, India
  
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[libreoffice-users] Retrofitting a template to a document

2014-04-16 Thread Toki

All:

In trying out various allegedly ODF compatible office suites, I 
discovered that one of them stripped template data from the file.


Can somebody point me to an easy way to add the source template data 
back to the file?


jonathon

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