Re: [libreoffice-users] ignore all during spellcheck

2014-05-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Thomas,

LibO 4.1.4-2, official with Debian Wheezy Xfce.

Le 18/05/2014 04:36, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :
 
 When I perform a spellcheck (either in English or German), the
 spellchecker frequently comes across terms that are NOT
 in the dictionary, I do NOT wish to add and therefore would like to
 ignore all instances in the document.
 HOWEVER .. the spellchecker NEVER accepts this command ignore all.
 Even if it shows me one box (sentence), which contains 2-3 instances of
 a particular term and I click on this ignore all,
 the same term 2-3 words to the right is again flagged as misspelled and
 shown in red.
 Naturally, when the spellchecker moves further down and finds that term
 again, it will mark it here too as misspelled.

I have tested you text above within my FR Writer window and run the (FR)
spellchecker, ignoring once or ignoring all the EN words. As a result:
-- in the end, the text is not underlined in red anymore
-- typing a previously ignored all word (eg the) doesn't underline
it in red again (for the session duration).

So, in short: WAD here. I guess there's some mismatch in your LibO
installation. Double check the language options once again. If nothing
is noticeable, then your LibO user profile might be corrupted. Try and
rename it just to make sure (with LibO and its quickstarter closed).

 
 (I have also trouble with having the spellchecker remember terms added
 to the dictionary ...)
 

Tick the following checkbox: Tools  Options, Language Settings 
Writing Aids, User-defined dictionaries, Standard


HTH,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] ignore all during spellcheck

2014-05-18 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 05/18/2014 02:56 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

Hi Thomas,

LibO 4.1.4-2, official with Debian Wheezy Xfce.

Le 18/05/2014 04:36, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :

When I perform a spellcheck (either in English or German), the
spellchecker frequently comes across terms that are NOT
in the dictionary, I do NOT wish to add and therefore would like to
ignore all instances in the document.
HOWEVER .. the spellchecker NEVER accepts this command ignore all.
Even if it shows me one box (sentence), which contains 2-3 instances of
a particular term and I click on this ignore all,
the same term 2-3 words to the right is again flagged as misspelled and
shown in red.
Naturally, when the spellchecker moves further down and finds that term
again, it will mark it here too as misspelled.

I have tested you text above within my FR Writer window and run the (FR)
spellchecker, ignoring once or ignoring all the EN words. As a result:
-- in the end, the text is not underlined in red anymore
-- typing a previously ignored all word (eg the) doesn't underline
it in red again (for the session duration).

So, in short: WAD here. I guess there's some mismatch in your LibO
installation. Double check the language options once again. If nothing
is noticeable, then your LibO user profile might be corrupted. Try and
rename it just to make sure (with LibO and its quickstarter closed).


(I have also trouble with having the spellchecker remember terms added
to the dictionary ...)


Tick the following checkbox: Tools  Options, Language Settings 
Writing Aids, User-defined dictionaries, Standard


HTH,


In the same check box section, do you have the IgnoreAllList [All] 
option checked?


I have that in my User-defined-dictionaries option section.






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread Urmas

Jiergir Ogoerg:

Is there any option in LibreOffice to make it generate _formatted_ 
underlying XML files?


The XML files by LO are consisting of one long line deliberately to hamper 
interoperation with a certain well-known competitor products. As a marketing 
decision, it is unlikely to change.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] ignore all during spellcheck

2014-05-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Would it make sense to set-up a special dictionary so that you could save
words into that by default and then choose whether or not to keep using
that dictionary for other files or just to keep it for the 1 document?

Is that sort of thing even possible?  Can you have more than 1 specialist
dictionary active at any one time?
Regards from
Tom :)




On 18 May 2014 07:56, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.comwrote:

 On 05/18/2014 02:56 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

 Hi Thomas,

 LibO 4.1.4-2, official with Debian Wheezy Xfce.

 Le 18/05/2014 04:36, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :

 When I perform a spellcheck (either in English or German), the
 spellchecker frequently comes across terms that are NOT
 in the dictionary, I do NOT wish to add and therefore would like to
 ignore all instances in the document.
 HOWEVER .. the spellchecker NEVER accepts this command ignore all.
 Even if it shows me one box (sentence), which contains 2-3 instances of
 a particular term and I click on this ignore all,
 the same term 2-3 words to the right is again flagged as misspelled and
 shown in red.
 Naturally, when the spellchecker moves further down and finds that term
 again, it will mark it here too as misspelled.

 I have tested you text above within my FR Writer window and run the (FR)
 spellchecker, ignoring once or ignoring all the EN words. As a result:
 -- in the end, the text is not underlined in red anymore
 -- typing a previously ignored all word (eg the) doesn't underline
 it in red again (for the session duration).

 So, in short: WAD here. I guess there's some mismatch in your LibO
 installation. Double check the language options once again. If nothing
 is noticeable, then your LibO user profile might be corrupted. Try and
 rename it just to make sure (with LibO and its quickstarter closed).

  (I have also trouble with having the spellchecker remember terms added
 to the dictionary ...)

  Tick the following checkbox: Tools  Options, Language Settings 
 Writing Aids, User-defined dictionaries, Standard


 HTH,


 In the same check box section, do you have the IgnoreAllList [All]
 option checked?

 I have that in my User-defined-dictionaries option section.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] ignore all during spellcheck

2014-05-18 Thread Graham Luffrum
Not particularly helpful, but I had the same problem, with regard to the
spell-checker not remembering words which I had previously added to the
dictionnary.  I then updated to a newer version of LO and the problem
went.  As I update quite often (currently using 4.2.4.2 under Linux Mint
15), don't ask me at what point the change occurred.

Graham


On 18 May 2014 13:14, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 Would it make sense to set-up a special dictionary so that you could save
 words into that by default and then choose whether or not to keep using
 that dictionary for other files or just to keep it for the 1 document?

 Is that sort of thing even possible?  Can you have more than 1 specialist
 dictionary active at any one time?
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 18 May 2014 07:56, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
 wrote:

  On 05/18/2014 02:56 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
 
  Hi Thomas,
 
  LibO 4.1.4-2, official with Debian Wheezy Xfce.
 
  Le 18/05/2014 04:36, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :
 
  When I perform a spellcheck (either in English or German), the
  spellchecker frequently comes across terms that are NOT
  in the dictionary, I do NOT wish to add and therefore would like to
  ignore all instances in the document.
  HOWEVER .. the spellchecker NEVER accepts this command ignore all.
  Even if it shows me one box (sentence), which contains 2-3 instances of
  a particular term and I click on this ignore all,
  the same term 2-3 words to the right is again flagged as misspelled and
  shown in red.
  Naturally, when the spellchecker moves further down and finds that term
  again, it will mark it here too as misspelled.
 
  I have tested you text above within my FR Writer window and run the (FR)
  spellchecker, ignoring once or ignoring all the EN words. As a
 result:
  -- in the end, the text is not underlined in red anymore
  -- typing a previously ignored all word (eg the) doesn't underline
  it in red again (for the session duration).
 
  So, in short: WAD here. I guess there's some mismatch in your LibO
  installation. Double check the language options once again. If nothing
  is noticeable, then your LibO user profile might be corrupted. Try and
  rename it just to make sure (with LibO and its quickstarter closed).
 
   (I have also trouble with having the spellchecker remember terms added
  to the dictionary ...)
 
   Tick the following checkbox: Tools  Options, Language Settings 
  Writing Aids, User-defined dictionaries, Standard
 
 
  HTH,
 
 
  In the same check box section, do you have the IgnoreAllList [All]
  option checked?
 
  I have that in my User-defined-dictionaries option section.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 18/05/14 11:30, Urmas wrote:

 The XML files by LO are consisting of one long line deliberately to
 hamper interoperation with a certain well-known competitor products. As
 a marketing decision, it is unlikely to change.

This has definitely not been a marketing decision. Marketing would have
decided exactly the opposite, i.e. the highest interoperability level
with competition.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread Jim Seymour
On Sun, 18 May 2014 16:30:24 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jiergir Ogoerg:
 
 Is there any option in LibreOffice to make it generate _formatted_ 
 underlying XML files?
 
 The XML files by LO are consisting of one long line deliberately to
 hamper interoperation with a certain well-known competitor
 products. As a marketing decision, it is unlikely to change.

Having done my fair share of XML-based development a few years ago,
for another FOSS project, I think I can say, with a fair degree of
authority: That's utter bollocks.

If that *were* true, it wouldn't speak very highly of said
competitor's products' developers, since XML is, by its very
definition, formatted.  XML interpreters do not need carriage
returns, line feeds, tabs, spaces and what-have-you.  All those
characters do, from a software standpoint, is unnecessarily bulk up a
file.

I had to work with unformatted XML.  I quickly threw together a
simple bit of code, using existing (also FOSS) XML libraries, to
parse the lines and kick them out in more human-friendly-formatted
output.  It was not difficult.

I doubt I bothered to format my XML output.  I don't recall.

Speaking of formatting, Urmas: Unlike XML parsers, humans *do*
need proper visual formatting to quickly, easily and even
properly interpret text.  That being the case: Do you suppose it would
it be possible for you to use an email client that knows how to quote
quoted material in something resembling a traditional manner, or must
we ever *guess* what's yours and what's somebody else's comments?

Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: query ...

2014-05-18 Thread Florian Effenberger

I think this is related to the problems I mentioned on the moderators list
Services should be back to normal now

anne-ology wrote on 2014-05-18 05:24:

... curiously wondering why this (see below) wasn't delivered to
the list ???



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread libreoffice-ml . mbourne

Italo Vignoli wrote:

On 18/05/14 11:30, Urmas wrote:


The XML files by LO are consisting of one long line deliberately to
hamper interoperation with a certain well-known competitor products. As
a marketing decision, it is unlikely to change.


This has definitely not been a marketing decision. Marketing would have
decided exactly the opposite, i.e. the highest interoperability level
with competition.


It's nonsense anyway. Software is just as capable of reading XML from a 
single long line or split over multiple lines. Formatting it on multiple 
lines with indentation just makes it easier for humans to read, but 
would make files larger and possibly slow down the process of reading 
and writing the files.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Jim Seymour wrote (18-05-14 14:05)

 Having done my fair share of XML-based development a few years ago,
 for another FOSS project, I think I can say, with a fair degree of
 authority: That's utter bollocks.
 [...]
 I had to work with unformatted XML.  I quickly threw together a
 simple bit of code, using existing (also FOSS) XML libraries, to
 parse the lines and kick them out in more human-friendly-formatted
 output.  It was not difficult.

There was some option previously, must have been in Load/Save ..
General, to choose between flat and  'formatted' XML.
But indeed for reasons written by Jim (and maybe more), this choice has
been removed.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] ignore all during spellcheck

2014-05-18 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


I never really had your problem, but I tried to give some advice.

Just today, I upgraded to 4.2.4.2 from 4.2.2 on this desktop.  I thought 
I had already done that, but I checked and had not.


Also, I use Linux Mint, but 16 instead of 15, plus I use the MATE version.

As for Tom's question, well I have had several add on dictionaries 
active/enabled at the same time.  If someone really wanted to, they 
could create different technical word/term spell checking dictionaries 
and keep them in the Extension Manager and enable/disable them as 
needed.  I have done that in the past, but not with the 4.2.x line.


To be honest, if someone types in a word list containing a large number 
of terms for various scientific studies, like Geology or Palaeontology, 
then a technical dictionary could be created for these terms.  Then it 
could be a part of the marketing of LO for the education market.



On 05/18/2014 07:48 AM, Graham Luffrum wrote:

Not particularly helpful, but I had the same problem, with regard to the
spell-checker not remembering words which I had previously added to the
dictionnary.  I then updated to a newer version of LO and the problem
went.  As I update quite often (currently using 4.2.4.2 under Linux Mint
15), don't ask me at what point the change occurred.

Graham


On 18 May 2014 13:14, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi :)
Would it make sense to set-up a special dictionary so that you could save
words into that by default and then choose whether or not to keep using
that dictionary for other files or just to keep it for the 1 document?

Is that sort of thing even possible?  Can you have more than 1 specialist
dictionary active at any one time?
Regards from
Tom :)




On 18 May 2014 07:56, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com

wrote:
On 05/18/2014 02:56 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:


Hi Thomas,

LibO 4.1.4-2, official with Debian Wheezy Xfce.

Le 18/05/2014 04:36, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :


When I perform a spellcheck (either in English or German), the
spellchecker frequently comes across terms that are NOT
in the dictionary, I do NOT wish to add and therefore would like to
ignore all instances in the document.
HOWEVER .. the spellchecker NEVER accepts this command ignore all.
Even if it shows me one box (sentence), which contains 2-3 instances of
a particular term and I click on this ignore all,
the same term 2-3 words to the right is again flagged as misspelled and
shown in red.
Naturally, when the spellchecker moves further down and finds that term
again, it will mark it here too as misspelled.


I have tested you text above within my FR Writer window and run the (FR)
spellchecker, ignoring once or ignoring all the EN words. As a

result:

-- in the end, the text is not underlined in red anymore
-- typing a previously ignored all word (eg the) doesn't underline
it in red again (for the session duration).

So, in short: WAD here. I guess there's some mismatch in your LibO
installation. Double check the language options once again. If nothing
is noticeable, then your LibO user profile might be corrupted. Try and
rename it just to make sure (with LibO and its quickstarter closed).

  (I have also trouble with having the spellchecker remember terms added

to the dictionary ...)

  Tick the following checkbox: Tools  Options, Language Settings 

Writing Aids, User-defined dictionaries, Standard


HTH,


In the same check box section, do you have the IgnoreAllList [All]
option checked?

I have that in my User-defined-dictionaries option section.






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[libreoffice-users] Re: displaying/editing a table through LO-Base

2014-05-18 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 16/05/14 21:26, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,

How about signing your PK ? Are the PKs in your other tables all
unsigned INT ?

Alex





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[libreoffice-users] Issue install on a a Dell

2014-05-18 Thread Wade Smart
My friends computer is a Dell GX280 with 3gb ram.
Her hd became corrupted (had XP on it) and with
a new hd installed we install Windows 7 Home.

Trying to install LibraOffice, Im having this problem.
It says its installing - it skips to installed. No icons.
No program files were created.

When I run the install program again it shows either
repair or remove - so it things its installed.

Avast is the virus program installed and other than
firefox, nothing else has been installed on the
system.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Issue install on a a Dell

2014-05-18 Thread Jay Lozier


On 05/18/2014 07:19 PM, Wade Smart wrote:

My friends computer is a Dell GX280 with 3gb ram.
Her hd became corrupted (had XP on it) and with
a new hd installed we install Windows 7 Home.

Trying to install LibraOffice, Im having this problem.
It says its installing - it skips to installed. No icons.
No program files were created.

When I run the install program again it shows either
repair or remove - so it things its installed.

Avast is the virus program installed and other than
firefox, nothing else has been installed on the
system.

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Wade,

Did you download LO from the LO Download page?

Is there any error message?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-18 Thread Tom Cloyd
I was simply concerned to grab an opportunity to educate. One sees these 
sorts of pseudo-surveys all the time, and people think they actually 
mean something - which is to say that we can infer something from them. 
That is completely fallacious.


I'm a relentless educator. That's my problem. There's no fix for it. 
Maybe if I stopped breathingbut I'm not yet ready to try that!


Tom

On 05/13/2014 09:05 AM, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Tue, 13 May 2014, Tom Cloyd wrote:


[...]


I don't think Virgil is doing this for fun. I don't think the 
respondents think their responses are meaningless. Seriously now: who 
in their right mind is interested in the practices of those who 
bother to respond to this would-be survey? What possible importance 
can be attached, at all, to their responses? I don't get it. If there 
isn't some degree of belief that this matters (which is cannot, as 
I've previously explained), what's the point?


it's called 'getting acquainted with people in a group'. people do 
this at parties too.


hard to see what's objectionable about it unless one doesn't like 
parties. (I don't mean political parties.)


F.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-18 Thread Tom Cloyd
I use Calc almost exclusively - daily, and intensely, for personal 
scheduling and task management. Nothing else I've tried has anywhere 
near the flexibility or utility, by a considerable margin. I'm totally 
committed to this tool for meeting that need. It just works (usually!).


t.

On 05/16/2014 04:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Wow!  At last some people using Calc more than Writer.  Interesting to see
neither seem to need or use Base at all.  It kinda makes sense of the high
quality answers we see about Calc though.  Other posts in this thread
showing a very low usage of Calc had me worried.  I know it's possible to
understand something without using it much but i feel that daily experience
and a lot of usage often helps me learn how to make best use of rare quirks
or good work-arounds for rare oddities = which is one reason i know so
little about Calc.

This mailing-list is a great place to pick-up hintstips.  The marketing
list is trying to deliver daily tips by twitter and anyone who can write a
really short hint or tip would really be helping the wider community quite
a lot.  Quite probably you don't even notice using something that noobs
would find hugely useful.  The Calc shuffle (how to drag a single cell),
for example.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 15 May 2014 19:32, James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com wrote:


Calc 50%
Writer 50%

On 2014-05-15 20:02, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

I don't have a clue, but I guess something like this:
Calc 998 ‰
Draw 1 ‰
Math ⅔ ‰
Writer ⅓ ‰
Base 0 ‰
Impress 0 ‰

But, as I said, I have no clue. Maybe it's even more Calc and less of the
others.


Johnny Rosenberg



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