Re: [libreoffice-users] rtf files

2014-11-16 Thread Tim Lloyd

Hi All,

this is a bug reported by Carole towards the end of September. The issue 
was where data in columns in rtf files was not stored correctly.


For the record this bug has been fixed and will be release in 4.4.0.

Cheers
On 29/09/14 16:02, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

Hi,

Le 29/09/2014 04:26, Tim Lloyd a écrit :

FYI I removed 4.3 and installed 4.1. The problem is not apparent with
the older version. I have some old versions stored away so I can drill
down and find when exactly this problem occurs and report to the
bugzilla (I can't see anything obvious there).

Let me know if we are on the same page.


FYI, the older versions are available here:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Report in Base not executed

2014-11-16 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 14/11/2014 15:39, Harvey Nimmo a écrit :
 com.sun.star.loader.CannotActivateFactoryException was caught.



Sounds similar to this :

https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51278

which was around in the transition to LO 3.6.x

Maybe try resetting your LO user configuration profile ?

Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Report in Base not executed

2014-11-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Here's a link to help you follow Alex's advice
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

It often helps fix a wide variety of weird problems.  I hope it helps with
this one too! :))
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)




On 16 November 2014 09:36, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Le 14/11/2014 15:39, Harvey Nimmo a écrit :
  com.sun.star.loader.CannotActivateFactoryException was caught.



 Sounds similar to this :

 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51278

 which was around in the transition to LO 3.6.x

 Maybe try resetting your LO user configuration profile ?

 Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer, how to insert horizontal line

2014-11-16 Thread Urmas

William Drago:


Well, there's no Horizontal Rule under insert.


Support for HR element was intentionally removed to create incompatibility 
with MS Office software.
Emulate it by the empty paragraph with the border and adjusted before/after 
spacing. 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer, how to insert horizontal line

2014-11-16 Thread Alan B
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 At 11:45 15/11/2014 -0500, Alan Bonly wrote:

 Method 2 [Select Format|Paragraph, then the Borders tab, pick a top or
 bottom border, ...] suffers the same disadvantage if the border is
 specified as a bottom border. However if a top border is selected it is not
 applied to the following paragraphs.


 It will be unless Merge with next paragraph is ticked.


I didn't tick anything. Just selected top border and clicked Okay.

Reviewing your comment I find Merge with next paragraph is ticked
already. At least on my system it is a default, Ubuntu 14.04 and LO 4.2.7.2.

Is it not ticked on your system? If so then perhaps there's a bug, or
platform or version difference. I don't generally remark on defaults unless
there's reason to suspect it may be changed.

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[libreoffice-users] mongodb and base

2014-11-16 Thread Eric
I've googled a bit and did not find anything. Has anyone coupled mongodb 
and base together yet?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] mongodb and base

2014-11-16 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 16 November 2014 21:57, Eric e...@esjworks.com wrote:
 I've googled a bit and did not find anything. Has anyone coupled mongodb and
 base together yet?

Just curious, how would you combine relational databases with the
document-oriented ones (such as mongodb)?
Do you have use cases?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread anne-ology
   The problem - and a major one to my way of thinking - is that these
WYSIWYG programs add a bunch of unnecessary verbage ...
I've simplified HTML-coding by having the basics in a saved
notepad document
   to which I merely need add whatever whenever; I've yet to find a
site which can't view these.

   Well, that's my 2cents' worth  ;-)



From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file.  Yet, for some
work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web document.

I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor.  I use it for the
Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] 4.3.3.2_ to
4.3.4.1_.  That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least the
ones I have used.

Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the upgraded
version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses.  So I will be looking for a
different DEDICATED web page editor.

Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG editor
that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with error
checking options.




On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:


 On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

 Hi Kolbjoern

 Thanks for the reply.

 The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change the
 File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It then opens in
 view mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??


 I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did exactly as
 you did, and the HTML source option did not appear on the View menu. I
 think the problem is that, when opening the file, you are changing the File
 Type to HTML Document (Writer). When you do that, all you get is a
 WYSIWYG display along with no HTML source option. So, I tried it again, but
 instead of changing the file type to HTML Document (Writer) I kept it at
 All types. Then when I opened an HTML file, I saw the source code instead
 of the WYSIWYG display.

 Not sure if this is intended behavior or a bug.

 (All this said, I agree with Tom that I would use a regular text editor to
 edit HTML code. Gedit works nicely on my Ubuntu machine.)

 Virgil


  On 11/13/2014 01:18 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:

 When saving your document, select HTML Document (Writer) (.html) in
 the File type: drop down list in the Save dialog.
 Kolbjoern


 Den 13.11.2014 11:18, skreiv Ian Whitfield:

 Hi All

 Can I get some help on this please??

 I have read about, and looked-up, the possibility of editing HTML
 documents in Writer but can not get it to work!!
 No matter what I do I can not fine 'HTML Mode' or 'View HTML' as talked
 about ion the help files.
 I can load my document but can not get at the HTML code.

 What am I missing or doing wrong??

 I'm using LO 4.3 on PClinuxOS (latest)

 Thanks for any help.

 IanW
 Pretoria RSA



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread anne-ology
   Wow, from the known to the unknown  ;-)

   Curiously wondering if there's an explanation for all of these
various codings somewhere;
and if so, where?



From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Here is the list of languages that Bluefish's page states it has language
definitions for.
Yes there are a lot, but it seems to me that this package is more than a
HTML creation/modification page editor.

Ada
ASP .NET and VBS
C/C++
CSS
CFML
Clojure
D
gettext PO
Google Go
HTML, XHTML and HTML5
Java and JSP
JavaScript and jQuery
Lua
Octave/MATLAB
MediaWiki
NSIS
Pascal
Perl
PHP
Python
R
Ruby
Shell
Scheme
SQL
SVG
Vala
Wordpress
XML




On 11/14/2014 09:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think the coding is to be published in a book / manual / guide.  Perhaps
 teaching people the basics or giving appropriate examples.

 I think Ian was looking for some method to use coding in a document in much
 the same way that Math is used to write equations for documents so that the
 equation can be seen.  We have been trying to push him into using the
 equivalent of Calc to give the correct answer when he's really looking for
 something to show the equation in all it's intriguing beauty.

 Bluefish is often recommended and i gather it's a bit like Dreamweaver in
 having a wysiwyg alongside a coding window/pane.  I only had a brief go at
 both those but they made me feel really uncomfortable.  Real world
 web-browsers have their own quirks and i'm not sure how faithfully a
 wysiwyg editor reproduces their errors.  So, i tend to have at least 1
 web-browser open to see the real-world effect of code that i write (well,
 mostly copypaste  modify tbh) in a text-editor.


 It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions.  There are
 these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
 directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for print.

 Regards from
 Tom :)





 On 15 November 2014 00:27, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

  I use to hand code everything and then check my work in a browser.  Now
 with more complex pages, it can be very hard to keep one edited without
 using a WYSIWYG editor.  Yes, I use text editors for some things, but
 there
 are a lot of things that need the editing while viewing the page, and not
 just the code.





 On 11/14/2014 06:18 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

  On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


  Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file.  Yet, for
 some work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web
 document.

 I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor.  I use it for
 the Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] 4.3.3.2_ to
 4.3.4.1_.  That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least
 the
 ones I have used.

 Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
 based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the
 upgraded
 version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses.  So I will be looking for a
 different DEDICATED web page editor.

 Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG editor
 that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with
 error
 checking options.

  I haven't followed the thread with great care so I may have overlooked
 a
 reference to 'bluefish'. http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/features.html

 I haven't used it in quite a spell so this isn't a 'recommendation', just
 a reference to a tool which might be of use.

 it is not, I think, wysiwyg as such but it will open your browser for
 inspection of results. (looking at the website it seems it may open your
 page within bluefish but I'm skimming too fast to be sure.)

 see what you think.

 (apologies if this has already been considered.)

 F.

   


 On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

  On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

  Hi Kolbjoern

 Thanks for the reply.

 The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change
 the File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It then
 opens
 in view mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??


  I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did exactly
 as
 you did, and the HTML source option did not appear on the View menu.
 I
 think the problem is that, when opening the file, you are changing the
 File
 Type to HTML Document (Writer). When you do that, all you get is a
 WYSIWYG display along with no HTML source option. So, I tried it
 again, but
 instead of changing the file type to HTML Document (Writer) I kept
 it at
 All types. Then when I opened an HTML file, I saw the source code
 instead
 of the WYSIWYG 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread anne-ology
   I so agree.



From: Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


On 11/14/2014 9:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions.  There are
 these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
 directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for print.


Perhaps the two directions are a reflection of the divergent ways that
writers now work. Back in the early days of personal computers, all writing
was still directed at the printed page. But, with the web and, now e-books,
writers must create content that looks proper on *both* paper and computer
screen.

Problem is, few writing tools are good at both.

Word processors (and even LaTeX) are still designed primarily for creating
documents for paper. When they are used to create HTML content, they load
the file with all sorts of complex (and probably unnecessary) code.

MarkDown editors do a decent job of creating clean, simple HTML code for
onscreen viewing, but their print output can be iffy, and there are so many
MarkDown flavors that a document created by one editor doesn't parse well
in another.

What is needed is a simple system where a writer can write and edit his
content once, then press something like F1 for print (PDF) output and
F2 for screen (HTML) output and get excellent and intended results with
both. So, far, my own obsessive search has failed to find it.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread pete nikolic
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:00:23 -0600
anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

I so agree.
 
 
 
 From: Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 
 On 11/14/2014 9:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 
  It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions.  There are
  these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
  directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for print.
 
 
 Perhaps the two directions are a reflection of the divergent ways that
 writers now work. Back in the early days of personal computers, all writing
 was still directed at the printed page. But, with the web and, now e-books,
 writers must create content that looks proper on *both* paper and computer
 screen.
 
 Problem is, few writing tools are good at both.
 
 Word processors (and even LaTeX) are still designed primarily for creating
 documents for paper. When they are used to create HTML content, they load
 the file with all sorts of complex (and probably unnecessary) code.
 
 MarkDown editors do a decent job of creating clean, simple HTML code for
 onscreen viewing, but their print output can be iffy, and there are so many
 MarkDown flavors that a document created by one editor doesn't parse well
 in another.
 
 What is needed is a simple system where a writer can write and edit his
 content once, then press something like F1 for print (PDF) output and
 F2 for screen (HTML) output and get excellent and intended results with
 both. So, far, my own obsessive search has failed to find it.
 
 Virgil
 

Well another vote for Bluefish here , I use it to build and maintain several web
sites   

Very good at it's job 

I did at one time look into open office  for html but very quickly moved on
switched to Quanta  but alas that got left behind   switched to Bluefish  doubt 
i
will change again 

If you want instant visual check of changes then if you have dual displays i run
bluefish on one monitor and Qupzilla on the other it updates as soon as you save
the file no refresh needed ..

 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Wikipedia is often a good place to get some sort of idea but the important
bit is to use their External Links.

For some of the languages w3schools can be useful but some people say they
tend to teach some bad habits.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 November 2014 23:57, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

Wow, from the known to the unknown  ;-)

Curiously wondering if there's an explanation for all of these
 various codings somewhere;
 and if so, where?



 From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org


 Here is the list of languages that Bluefish's page states it has language
 definitions for.
 Yes there are a lot, but it seems to me that this package is more than a
 HTML creation/modification page editor.

 Ada
 ASP .NET and VBS
 C/C++
 CSS
 CFML
 Clojure
 D
 gettext PO
 Google Go
 HTML, XHTML and HTML5
 Java and JSP
 JavaScript and jQuery
 Lua
 Octave/MATLAB
 MediaWiki
 NSIS
 Pascal
 Perl
 PHP
 Python
 R
 Ruby
 Shell
 Scheme
 SQL
 SVG
 Vala
 Wordpress
 XML




 On 11/14/2014 09:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

  Hi :)
  I think the coding is to be published in a book / manual / guide.
 Perhaps
  teaching people the basics or giving appropriate examples.
 
  I think Ian was looking for some method to use coding in a document in
 much
  the same way that Math is used to write equations for documents so that
 the
  equation can be seen.  We have been trying to push him into using the
  equivalent of Calc to give the correct answer when he's really looking
 for
  something to show the equation in all it's intriguing beauty.
 
  Bluefish is often recommended and i gather it's a bit like Dreamweaver in
  having a wysiwyg alongside a coding window/pane.  I only had a brief go
 at
  both those but they made me feel really uncomfortable.  Real world
  web-browsers have their own quirks and i'm not sure how faithfully a
  wysiwyg editor reproduces their errors.  So, i tend to have at least 1
  web-browser open to see the real-world effect of code that i write (well,
  mostly copypaste  modify tbh) in a text-editor.
 
 
  It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions.  There
 are
  these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
  directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for
 print.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
  On 15 November 2014 00:27, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
  webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
   I use to hand code everything and then check my work in a browser.
 Now
  with more complex pages, it can be very hard to keep one edited without
  using a WYSIWYG editor.  Yes, I use text editors for some things, but
  there
  are a lot of things that need the editing while viewing the page, and
 not
  just the code.
 
 
 
 
 
  On 11/14/2014 06:18 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
 
   On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 
 
   Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file.  Yet, for
  some work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web
  document.
 
  I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor.  I use it
 for
  the Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] 4.3.3.2_ to
  4.3.4.1_.  That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least
  the
  ones I have used.
 
  Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
  based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the
  upgraded
  version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses.  So I will be looking for a
  different DEDICATED web page editor.
 
  Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG
 editor
  that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with
  error
  checking options.
 
   I haven't followed the thread with great care so I may have
 overlooked
  a
  reference to 'bluefish'. http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/features.html
 
  I haven't used it in quite a spell so this isn't a 'recommendation',
 just
  a reference to a tool which might be of use.
 
  it is not, I think, wysiwyg as such but it will open your browser for
  inspection of results. (looking at the website it seems it may open
 your
  page within bluefish but I'm skimming too fast to be sure.)
 
  see what you think.
 
  (apologies if this has already been considered.)
 
  F.
 

 
 
  On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 
   On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
 
   Hi Kolbjoern
 
  Thanks for the reply.
 
  The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change
  the File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It
 then
  opens
  in view mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??
 
 
   I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did
 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML

2014-11-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Notepad is possibly the most difficult text-editor to use.  It doesn't have
any of the fancy colour-coding that almost every text-editor has.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 November 2014 23:53, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

The problem - and a major one to my way of thinking - is that these
 WYSIWYG programs add a bunch of unnecessary verbage ...
 I've simplified HTML-coding by having the basics in a saved
 notepad document
to which I merely need add whatever whenever; I've yet to find a
 site which can't view these.

Well, that's my 2cents' worth  ;-)



 From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org


 Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file.  Yet, for some
 work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web document.

 I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor.  I use it for the
 Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] 4.3.3.2_ to
 4.3.4.1_.  That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least the
 ones I have used.

 Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
 based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the upgraded
 version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses.  So I will be looking for a
 different DEDICATED web page editor.

 Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG editor
 that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with error
 checking options.




 On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:


  On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
 
  Hi Kolbjoern
 
  Thanks for the reply.
 
  The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change the
  File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It then opens
 in
  view mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??
 
 
  I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did exactly as
  you did, and the HTML source option did not appear on the View menu. I
  think the problem is that, when opening the file, you are changing the
 File
  Type to HTML Document (Writer). When you do that, all you get is a
  WYSIWYG display along with no HTML source option. So, I tried it again,
 but
  instead of changing the file type to HTML Document (Writer) I kept it
 at
  All types. Then when I opened an HTML file, I saw the source code
 instead
  of the WYSIWYG display.
 
  Not sure if this is intended behavior or a bug.
 
  (All this said, I agree with Tom that I would use a regular text editor
 to
  edit HTML code. Gedit works nicely on my Ubuntu machine.)
 
  Virgil
 
 
   On 11/13/2014 01:18 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
 
  When saving your document, select HTML Document (Writer) (.html) in
  the File type: drop down list in the Save dialog.
  Kolbjoern
 
 
  Den 13.11.2014 11:18, skreiv Ian Whitfield:
 
  Hi All
 
  Can I get some help on this please??
 
  I have read about, and looked-up, the possibility of editing HTML
  documents in Writer but can not get it to work!!
  No matter what I do I can not fine 'HTML Mode' or 'View HTML' as
 talked
  about ion the help files.
  I can load my document but can not get at the HTML code.
 
  What am I missing or doing wrong??
 
  I'm using LO 4.3 on PClinuxOS (latest)
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
  IanW
  Pretoria RSA
 
 

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