Wow, from the known to the unknown ;-)
Curiously wondering if there's an explanation for all of these
various codings somewhere;
and if so, where?
From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
To: [email protected]
Here is the list of languages that Bluefish's page states it has language
definitions for.
Yes there are a lot, but it seems to me that this package is more than a
HTML creation/modification page editor.
Ada
ASP .NET and VBS
C/C++
CSS
CFML
Clojure
D
gettext PO
Google Go
HTML, XHTML and HTML5
Java and JSP
JavaScript and jQuery
Lua
Octave/MATLAB
MediaWiki
NSIS
Pascal
Perl
PHP
Python
R
Ruby
Shell
Scheme
SQL
SVG
Vala
Wordpress
XML
On 11/14/2014 09:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
> I think the coding is to be published in a book / manual / guide. Perhaps
> teaching people the basics or giving appropriate examples.
>
> I think Ian was looking for some method to use coding in a document in much
> the same way that Math is used to write equations for documents so that the
> equation can be seen. We have been trying to push him into using the
> equivalent of Calc to give the correct answer when he's really looking for
> something to show the equation in all it's intriguing beauty.
>
> Bluefish is often recommended and i gather it's a bit like Dreamweaver in
> having a wysiwyg alongside a coding window/pane. I only had a brief go at
> both those but they made me feel really uncomfortable. Real world
> web-browsers have their own quirks and i'm not sure how faithfully a
> wysiwyg editor reproduces their errors. So, i tend to have at least 1
> web-browser open to see the real-world effect of code that i write (well,
> mostly copy&paste & modify tbh) in a text-editor.
>
>
> It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions. There are
> these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
> directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for print.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 November 2014 00:27, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I use to "hand code" everything and then check my work in a browser. Now
>> with more complex pages, it can be very hard to keep one edited without
>> using a WYSIWYG editor. Yes, I use text editors for some things, but
>> there
>> are a lot of things that need the editing while viewing the page, and not
>> just the code.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/14/2014 06:18 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file. Yet, for
>>>> some work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web
>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>> I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor. I use it for
>>>> the Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] "4.3.3.2_" to
>>>> "4.3.4.1_". That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least
>>>> the
>>>> ones I have used.
>>>>
>>>> Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
>>>> based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the
>>>> upgraded
>>>> version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses. So I will be looking for a
>>>> different DEDICATED web page editor.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG editor
>>>> that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with
>>>> error
>>>> checking options.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't followed the thread with great care so I may have overlooked
>>> a
>>> reference to 'bluefish'. <http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/features.html>
>>>
>>> I haven't used it in quite a spell so this isn't a 'recommendation', just
>>> a reference to a tool which might be of use.
>>>
>>> it is not, I think, wysiwyg as such but it will open your browser for
>>> inspection of results. (looking at the website it seems it may open your
>>> page within bluefish but I'm skimming too fast to be sure.)
>>>
>>> see what you think.
>>>
>>> (apologies if this has already been considered.)
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kolbjoern
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change
>>>>>> the File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It then
>>>>>> opens
>>>>>> in "view" mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did exactly
>>>>> as
>>>>> you did, and the "HTML source" option did not appear on the View menu.
>>>>> I
>>>>> think the problem is that, when opening the file, you are changing the
>>>>> File
>>>>> Type to "HTML Document (Writer)." When you do that, all you get is a
>>>>> WYSIWYG display along with no HTML source option. So, I tried it
>>>>> again, but
>>>>> instead of changing the file type to "HTML Document (Writer)" I kept
>>>>> it at
>>>>> "All types." Then when I opened an HTML file, I saw the source code
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of the WYSIWYG display.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if this is intended behavior or a bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> (All this said, I agree with Tom that I would use a regular text editor
>>>>> to edit HTML code. Gedit works nicely on my Ubuntu machine.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Virgil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/13/2014 01:18 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When saving your document, select "HTML Document (Writer) (.html)" in
>>>>>>> the "File type:" drop down list in the Save dialog.
>>>>>>> Kolbjoern
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den 13.11.2014 11:18, skreiv Ian Whitfield:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I get some help on this please??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have read about, and looked-up, the possibility of editing HTML
>>>>>>>> documents in Writer but can not get it to work!!
>>>>>>>> No matter what I do I can not fine 'HTML Mode' or 'View HTML' as
>>>>>>>> talked about ion the help files.
>>>>>>>> I can load my document but can not get at the HTML code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What am I missing or doing wrong??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using LO 4.3 on PClinuxOS (latest)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IanW
>>>>>>>> Pretoria RSA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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