Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
Hi :) PDP11s look interesting! A short article that claims the default OS was Multics; http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/PDP-11-Programmed-Data-Processor-11 but that many put Unix on it. Wikipedia gives a great long list of OSes that ran on or could run on PDP11s; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11#Operating_systems As you can see in the url below Nuclear Power Plants are apparently still using and plan to continue using PDP11's until 2050 ! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/ Regards from Tom :) On 22 July 2015 at 03:21, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster < webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote: > > My first real computer job was data entry typing punched cards for an IBM > system. > > Then I started working at several colleges with those "ghastly" PDP/11 > systems. One was the core for a large computer center with large tape > units, and one was just a stand alone system with a drive platter and all > of those dump terminals. That "stand alone" PDP/11 system is where I had > to write/code/etc. a full general ledger accounting system using COBOL. > Have you even tried to write a data entry system for an accounting system, > so people could not type in the wrong info/data - like Feb 29th for a > non-leap year or an account number that is not created, or other values > that are not within the proper any of the data ranges. That was 3 time the > coding size than all of the rest of the system, including the account > query/search system and report generating systems. > > Yes, I remember those data cassette tape drive computers, before you could > afford a dual floppy IBM PC/AT/XT clone. Then there were those 10 MEG hard > drives. > > I saw the introduction of the PC based > Hard Drive > CD ROM drive, then burner > > Real Graphics above 640 by 480 > > I saw the introduction of the Bulletin board system that was > interconnected so you had a primitive email address - mine was almost 80 > characters long. > > I saw the start of the WWW part of the Internet, which is what is now "THE > Internet", since most of the other parts [terminal based mostly] have > either "died" or been converted to use a browser. Of course there are > still parts that run via the terminal which I still use from time to time - > mostly local to server communications. > > The domain I use for this email address - I own - was first created in > the early '90, when you only had 14.4 dialup for most areas of the US, and > has gone from one domain service to another, and my hosting service from > one to another, till I finally settled on the one[s] I have been using for > many years now. > > Yes I have seen the wireless phone go from the "big brick" technology > through to the introduction of the smart phone technology. I now use a LG > base model Android phone, since I do not need all of the wow-wee stuff. I > do not need to use it for my every "computer" need, like some are touted. > > I have bought 3 Android tablets over the years. I still use 2 of them. > And no, I do not like the hype of not needing a larger system - laptop or > desktop - since a Android, IOSx, or MS OS claims it will do everything you > will need. My desktop I am typing this from is an old 4 core running Linux > Mint 16 with 4 hard drives internal, 1 OS and 3 data drives - adding up to > 6.25 TB - with 3 external 2 TB drives for backup. I use to have 4 backup, > till an internal 2TB drive failed and I needed my spare to replace it. > > I really wonder how you could get a tablet to have 6 TB of data storage. > I also like to see these tablets find printer drivers to run the USB or > network printing. I have enough trouble tryng to find a working Linux > [.deb] printer driver for my newer printers, and I have not been able to > get any of my android tablets to access any of my colored printers - just a > "older" HP laser printer. I now look for Linux drivers BEFORE I decide to > buy the printers. > > > I have gone from punched card data entry to web-based data entry screens. > I have gone from cassette tapes, through to floppies, internal/external > hard drives, USB flash drives and SD cards. > I have seen mainframe computers the size of a bedroom, down to a > refrigerator. > I have seen the IBM PC come out to the modern 4/6/8/16 core desktops. > I have use "portable" computers that were 30+ pounds down to the ultra > thing, ultra light multi-core tablets. > > I have "retired" from the "computer field" - as they use to call it - > after 3 computer related degrees and many computer related jobs. > Then I had to get "permanently and 100% disabled" working as a substitute > teacher by a student who should have been locked up in a mental ward. > > > > On 07/21/2015 07:15 AM, Gary Collins wrote: > >> On 07/18/2015 09:25 PM, James E Lang wrote: >> >>> The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: >>> What operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and >>> at w
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
Hi :) I'm sure many on this mailing list would be willing to help you get started. There are various ways of doing quite a lot of test-driving before committing yourself to anything. 1. It is probably good to 'rescue' an older machine from somewhere in order to test-drive a few things first just in case you run into any misunderstandings or accidents. 2. Alternatively, it can be neat if you are comfortable enough (and good enough) with hardware and have a desktop or other machine where it's easy to plonk in a 2nd (or 3rd or whatever) hard-drive and just leave it in there. Then when you want to try out linux you just unplug your Windows drive(s) and plug in your Linux one. That can usually avoid needing to mess around with the bios but not always - but at least if it doesn't work or something goes wrong then you can just plug your Windows drive(s) back in to get back to where you were. 3. A much safer way would be to create a Virtual Machine inside Windows. This is MUCH easier than it sounds! Basically just install the program "Virtualbox" in Windows just the same as you would install any other program. There are a lot of other such programs but Virtualbox is free and fairly friendly for point&click users. 4. If you are confident enough to risk using a machine that you kinda depend on at the moment then we can probably give some help with that too. Option 3 is probably the quickest, safest and easiest way to start but it doesn't give much of a feel for what is really going on. I feel i understand things better if i can physically get my hands on them. But maybe start with 3 and then move on to one of the other options? Let us know which option you think you can handle, when you have time to dip your toe into the new adventure! ;) Regards from Tom :) On 21 July 2015 at 20:27, anne-ology wrote: >Wow, you're survey has me interested; >and I'm quite amazed at the results which have been posted so > far ... > >[see my responses intermingled below in your query] > > > > From: James E Lang > Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM > Subject: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > work? What factors influence the choice? > >[I've considered switching to Linux or Ubuntu; but need someone to > guide me along the way ;-)] > > To set the tone, here are my answers: > > • I am retired so "at work" is not applicable > >[ditto; > although I noticed when I became semi-retired, I was busier - > now I'm really busier; I have piles of data to look o'er yet ne'er > seem to have the time to so do] > > • At home we have a desktop dual boot Windows XP (and Ubuntu Linux) > computer, a laptop dual boot Kubuntu Linux (and pre-installed Windows > Vista) computer and several other laptop, desktop, and dedicated server > (Ubuntu Linux based) computers. I also have Android Lollipop, Android Kit > Kat, and Android Jelly Bean tablets and phones. I have nothing from Apple. > >[wow, how do you use so many computers; >I still have the last desktop computer (MSFT), still hooked to > the 3-in-1 printer (non-functioning) - switched to laptops (MSFT, WIN 7); >and hand-held ACER (MSFT)] > > • Windows XP is used primarily for single player gaming and e-Sword Bible > software though it also is used to run LO, FireFox and Pegasus Mail > (proprietary though free of cost). > >[single-player gaming ? - curiously wondering how anyone has time > for games on these machines?] > > • Kubuntu Linux is my general purpose "go to" environment. My first Linux > system used what I believe was the penultimate marketed version from SuSE > before the first release of Open SuSE. I liked the flexibility that was > inherent in the KDE desktop environment and found the UI to be quite > similar to that of Windows at the time. I have briefly tried Gnome and > Unity desktop environments but KDE is my personal first choice. > >[curiously wondering what all that is?] > > • If I had a tablet computer that I thought could support my Linux usage > it, too, would run Kubuntu Linux, LO, etc. > >[so are those programs too large for laptops, ...; >I'm sold on the laptop as a WIN-WIN situation: (1) if the > electricity pops off, the battery allows whatever not to be lost; (2) it's > portable for maintenance as well as presenting programs, etc.] > > • Apple equipment is too expensive for me and from what I've heard about > the company's software policies, they are too restrictive to suit me. > >[my first computer was that Apple 2E; which continually had > problems] > > • Dual boot capabilities are seldom used to deviate from the above > information. > >[wow, you mean you run all your computers at once?] > > • The
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
My first real computer job was data entry typing punched cards for an IBM system. Then I started working at several colleges with those "ghastly" PDP/11 systems. One was the core for a large computer center with large tape units, and one was just a stand alone system with a drive platter and all of those dump terminals. That "stand alone" PDP/11 system is where I had to write/code/etc. a full general ledger accounting system using COBOL. Have you even tried to write a data entry system for an accounting system, so people could not type in the wrong info/data - like Feb 29th for a non-leap year or an account number that is not created, or other values that are not within the proper any of the data ranges. That was 3 time the coding size than all of the rest of the system, including the account query/search system and report generating systems. Yes, I remember those data cassette tape drive computers, before you could afford a dual floppy IBM PC/AT/XT clone. Then there were those 10 MEG hard drives. I saw the introduction of the PC based Hard Drive CD ROM drive, then burner Real Graphics above 640 by 480 I saw the introduction of the Bulletin board system that was interconnected so you had a primitive email address - mine was almost 80 characters long. I saw the start of the WWW part of the Internet, which is what is now "THE Internet", since most of the other parts [terminal based mostly] have either "died" or been converted to use a browser. Of course there are still parts that run via the terminal which I still use from time to time - mostly local to server communications. The domain I use for this email address - I own - was first created in the early '90, when you only had 14.4 dialup for most areas of the US, and has gone from one domain service to another, and my hosting service from one to another, till I finally settled on the one[s] I have been using for many years now. Yes I have seen the wireless phone go from the "big brick" technology through to the introduction of the smart phone technology. I now use a LG base model Android phone, since I do not need all of the wow-wee stuff. I do not need to use it for my every "computer" need, like some are touted. I have bought 3 Android tablets over the years. I still use 2 of them. And no, I do not like the hype of not needing a larger system - laptop or desktop - since a Android, IOSx, or MS OS claims it will do everything you will need. My desktop I am typing this from is an old 4 core running Linux Mint 16 with 4 hard drives internal, 1 OS and 3 data drives - adding up to 6.25 TB - with 3 external 2 TB drives for backup. I use to have 4 backup, till an internal 2TB drive failed and I needed my spare to replace it. I really wonder how you could get a tablet to have 6 TB of data storage. I also like to see these tablets find printer drivers to run the USB or network printing. I have enough trouble tryng to find a working Linux [.deb] printer driver for my newer printers, and I have not been able to get any of my android tablets to access any of my colored printers - just a "older" HP laser printer. I now look for Linux drivers BEFORE I decide to buy the printers. I have gone from punched card data entry to web-based data entry screens. I have gone from cassette tapes, through to floppies, internal/external hard drives, USB flash drives and SD cards. I have seen mainframe computers the size of a bedroom, down to a refrigerator. I have seen the IBM PC come out to the modern 4/6/8/16 core desktops. I have use "portable" computers that were 30+ pounds down to the ultra thing, ultra light multi-core tablets. I have "retired" from the "computer field" - as they use to call it - after 3 computer related degrees and many computer related jobs. Then I had to get "permanently and 100% disabled" working as a substitute teacher by a student who should have been locked up in a mental ward. On 07/21/2015 07:15 AM, Gary Collins wrote: On 07/18/2015 09:25 PM, James E Lang wrote: The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at work? What factors influence the choice? My first home computer was a BBC micro (anyone remember those?) That was back in the days when programming had to be really tight, only had 32Kb (yes, Kb) of RAM; long term storage was all external on cassette tapes, eventually upgraded to floppy disk drive (and the disks really were floppy). I've still got that computer and AFAIK it still works! My next machine was Acorn Archimedes, followed by RISC PC. It's a great shame that the marketing for those machines was so poor, leading to collapse of the company. The ARM chips had a great architecture and instruction set. After that, I got my first laptop, a Sony Vaio running windows XP. When I upgraded, which I was forced to do due to a machine f
[libreoffice-users] Re: [OT] Operating Environment Survey
James E Lang schrieb am Sonntag, 19. Juli 2015 03:25: > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > work? What factors influence the choice? I also want to contribute to your topic: At home and at job I work with and administrate several linux machines with opensuse. For a few (in number) tasks at work we have some dedicated windows machines or virtual machines. I favor KDE as desktop environment and LibreOffice integrates well with it under opensuse. I didn't find this with other linux distributions so far. My computer experience began in the eigthies with a TI-99 home computer. At university I met the first IBM compatibles XTs,ATs in the times of MS-DOS 3.3 programming in gw-basic, turbo-pascal, dbase and using some standard software. At this times I really admired MS software that I got e.g. DOS, Word 5, Flight Simulator... For my first own PC I chose DR-DOS as operating system, because it was far better as MS-DOS. (Most important was to save memory to be able to play wing commander...). I got a copy of GEM later as my first sight to a GUI. At my first job in the early nineties I was responsible for all the (few) DOS PCs. At this time I supposedly had been one of the first users of StarWriter 2.0 the very predecessor of StarOffice/OpenOffice/LibreOffice not against MS Word but to replace WordStar. Firstly the rise of Windows 3.0 did not concern me very much. It promised so much but it failed so often. Then came OS/2 Warp, that had been technically far superior to Windows, that was able to perform real multitasking and even included windows. I used it mainly to develop a DOS database application for multiuser environment. At my later job (up to now) I found contemporary windows 3.0 machines using standard software mainly of the lotus universe (AmiPro, 123, Approach,...). With the first network I fit them up with Novell DOS 7, because MS-DOS and Windows weren't able to do this easily at this times. Unhappily DR-DOS, Novell-DOS and OS/2 died away - not least by unfair sabotage actions by Microsoft. Since then I felt uncomfortable with them. But Windows 95 and further versions weren't avoidable, I worked many years with them as main system. Again unhappily Lotus was sold to IBM, the tough Lotus Smartsuite Applications became a dead end too. In private life I re-explored OpenOffice Version 1 12 years ago. At job I gradually replaced Lotus SmartSuite with OpenOffice and now LibreOffice. At the same time I discovered Linux as a valid alternative to this unfair managed and virussucking MS universe. I also gradually replaced Windows with Linux desktops at job featuring LibreOffice of course. I stick to SuSE/opensuse since then, because it featured KDE, excellent german localization, YaST, ... and maybe Ubuntu was not on the way yet. In my private life I willingly help friends in computer concerns, if ... they willingly start out into the world of FOSS. Stefan -- system: opensuse 13.2 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
On 07/21/2015 07:15 AM, Gary Collins wrote: > My first home computer was a BBC micro (anyone remember those?) That was back > in the days when programming had to be really tight, only had 32Kb (yes, Kb) > of RAM; long term storage was all external on cassette tapes My first computer was an IMSAI 8080, which I built up from bare boards and a bag of parts. I also had to buy a memory card and some I/O for it. I initially loaded in software via switches on the front panel and then saved to cassette. Back in those days, you knew your computer inside out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSAI_8080 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
On 18 July 2015 at 20:25, James E Lang wrote: > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > work? What factors influence the choice? At work (network admin), I am stuck with a Micro$oft Windows environment. My work machine is Win7. (For those comfortable with Win7, switching to Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop is *much* easier than 'upgrading' to Win8.x) At home, I use Linux: Ubuntu for my wife (because the nag about system updates s in your face and can't be ignored) and Mint for me (because after working long days [18 hrs yesterday] I *don't* want to have to mess with my PC; I just want it to work). If money were no object, I might consider switching to a Mac, but all my home PCs are self-built because I want to get what I want without paying a premium. My main system is quad-core i7 @ 4.00GHz with 16 GiB RAM. Answer to person asking what BSOD meant: Blue Screen of Death. (Once, in the middle of an 11 hour phone conversation with a Micro$oft tech, I made a reference to a BSOD. He replied indignantly, 'We don't refer to it by that name!' I replied: 'You know what i mean since that is the industry standard terminology.' He didn't reply to that.) A web search on 'bsod' can quickly identify the meaning. -- T. R. Valentine A rich heart may be under a poor coat. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
My 2 main machines are both Macintosh systems running Yosemite. Work is also home so no differences there. Main development machine is a Mac Laptop. > On 2015-07-19 03:25, James E Lang wrote: > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > work? What factors influence the choice? Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep http://www.desertweyr.com/ LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com Paonia, CO USA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] writer: repeat a cell content (string) in a cell or in text
At 15:45 21/07/2015 +0100, Mike Scott wrote: On 21/07/15 14:41, Brian Barker wrote: Yes: create what you need in a spreadsheet and copy and paste the required cell range into your text document. It will appear as a table but will function like the spreadsheet section that it is. Or embed a spreadsheet object: Insert | Object | OLE Object and pick spreadsheet, then fill it in. Then you get most (all?) of the facilities you'd expect. Double-click to open the spreadsheet object for editing. There's no "Or" about it: isn't that just a complicated way to achieve the same thing? Referring back to my recent comments, this really should be the default action for anything table-like. Er, I think it is ... Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
Wow, you're survey has me interested; and I'm quite amazed at the results which have been posted so far ... [see my responses intermingled below in your query] From: James E Lang Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey To: users@global.libreoffice.org The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at work? What factors influence the choice? [I've considered switching to Linux or Ubuntu; but need someone to guide me along the way ;-)] To set the tone, here are my answers: • I am retired so "at work" is not applicable [ditto; although I noticed when I became semi-retired, I was busier - now I'm really busier; I have piles of data to look o'er yet ne'er seem to have the time to so do] • At home we have a desktop dual boot Windows XP (and Ubuntu Linux) computer, a laptop dual boot Kubuntu Linux (and pre-installed Windows Vista) computer and several other laptop, desktop, and dedicated server (Ubuntu Linux based) computers. I also have Android Lollipop, Android Kit Kat, and Android Jelly Bean tablets and phones. I have nothing from Apple. [wow, how do you use so many computers; I still have the last desktop computer (MSFT), still hooked to the 3-in-1 printer (non-functioning) - switched to laptops (MSFT, WIN 7); and hand-held ACER (MSFT)] • Windows XP is used primarily for single player gaming and e-Sword Bible software though it also is used to run LO, FireFox and Pegasus Mail (proprietary though free of cost). [single-player gaming ? - curiously wondering how anyone has time for games on these machines?] • Kubuntu Linux is my general purpose "go to" environment. My first Linux system used what I believe was the penultimate marketed version from SuSE before the first release of Open SuSE. I liked the flexibility that was inherent in the KDE desktop environment and found the UI to be quite similar to that of Windows at the time. I have briefly tried Gnome and Unity desktop environments but KDE is my personal first choice. [curiously wondering what all that is?] • If I had a tablet computer that I thought could support my Linux usage it, too, would run Kubuntu Linux, LO, etc. [so are those programs too large for laptops, ...; I'm sold on the laptop as a WIN-WIN situation: (1) if the electricity pops off, the battery allows whatever not to be lost; (2) it's portable for maintenance as well as presenting programs, etc.] • Apple equipment is too expensive for me and from what I've heard about the company's software policies, they are too restrictive to suit me. [my first computer was that Apple 2E; which continually had problems] • Dual boot capabilities are seldom used to deviate from the above information. [wow, you mean you run all your computers at once?] • The BSODs on Windows influenced my initial adoption of Linux. [BSODs ???] -- Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] writer: repeat a cell content (string) in a cell or in text
On 21/07/15 14:41, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:45 21/07/2015 +0200, Pier Andreit wrote: I would like to do in writer (tables or text) as in calc, if in cell A1 I have "something" and in cell A2 I insert "=A1" in cell A2 I'll have "something" The syntax would be "=", I think. I tried with formulas but didn't succeed. it seems that they treat only numbers... It seems so. Breaking the principle of least surprise, it seems "tables" in Writer only do arithmetic. any suggestion? Yes: create what you need in a spreadsheet and copy and paste the required cell range into your text document. It will appear as a table but will function like the spreadsheet section that it is. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Or embed a spreadsheet object: Insert | Object | OLE Object and pick spreadsheet, then fill it in. Then you get most (all?) of the facilities you'd expect. Double-click to open the spreadsheet object for editing. Referring back to my recent comments, this really should be the default action for anything table-like. IMO. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] writer: repeat a cell content (string) in a cell or in text
Hi all: I supoused that you can use "A1&"something" that you have in A2 (With out quotes) Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El mar, 21-07-2015 a las 14:41 +0100, Brian Barker escribió: > At 14:45 21/07/2015 +0200, Pier Andreit wrote: > >I would like to do in writer (tables or text) as in calc, if in cell > >A1 I have "something" and in cell A2 I insert "=A1" in cell A2 I'll > >have "something" > > The syntax would be "=", I think. > > >I tried with formulas but didn't succeed. it seems that they treat > >only numbers... > > It seems so. > > >any suggestion? > > Yes: create what you need in a spreadsheet and copy and paste the > required cell range into your text document. It will appear as a > table but will function like the spreadsheet section that it is. > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > > -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
My remembers and my present: My first contact with a computer was with a main fraime (That all I know and remember of my first job). My second time was with a Unisys system that has a supply system to help my job. A very old kind of terminal. My third contact was my first time with windows (I don't know what was it), but was when I learn lotus-123 as a spreedsheet. My third job. In my four job I used As-400 for Account System, Unisys for the rest of system of the bank. And again, windows where I learn Office include Access (W-95 and its office with the best Access that I've known. Then go down). Here I bought my first personal computer (A clon). With windows and office with out access. In my last three jobs I used w7 and office and introduce to my self use OpenOffice and LibreOffice and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. My actual personal computer has Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with dual boot with w7 for very especific situations. Both with LibreOffice and the second with OpenOffice too. The laptop has Ubuntu 15.04 LTS with LibreOffice and the tablet use Android with Android Open Office and WPS (Kingsoft Office) and others that I don't rememeber now very well. I hope not tired you with my computer's part of my live. Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El mar, 21-07-2015 a las 11:15 +, Gary Collins escribió: > > > On 07/18/2015 09:25 PM, James E Lang wrote: > > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > > work? What factors influence the choice? > > > > My first home computer was a BBC micro (anyone remember those?) That was back > in the days when programming had to be really tight, only had 32Kb (yes, Kb) > of RAM; long term storage was all external on cassette tapes, eventually > upgraded to floppy disk drive (and the disks really were floppy). I've still > got that computer and AFAIK it still works! > My next machine was Acorn Archimedes, followed by RISC PC. It's a great shame > that the marketing for those machines was so poor, leading to collapse of the > company. The ARM chips had a great architecture and instruction set. > After that, I got my first laptop, a Sony Vaio running windows XP. When I > upgraded, which I was forced to do due to a machine failure, I got a laptop > running Windows 7 - which is still my current machine. A better Windows, once > I'd got used to it, but it had a real downer - couldn't get driver for my > flatbed scanner - Canon didn't produce one. > At work, in my first job I used a computer called a PDP 11 (ghastly thing); > can't remember what the OS was called. > In my second job I think we started off with some sort of mainframe, the > details of which are hazy now. Later we migrated to Sun Spark workstations. > In my last real job, used PCs running windows, I think it was XP at that time. > Now in my office based voluntary work I use PCs with Windows 7. Did have a > play with Win 8 on a laptop, but hated it. It might be OK for tablets, I > don't know, but it was horrible to use with normal PC input devices. > I have thought about upgrading to Linux but have never got around to it. This > is mainly because of familiarity with certain software packages, especially > Photoshop. I know there is GIMP for Linux, but it's not a patch - for one > thing, it doesn't have the concept of adjustment layers; and that means that > all my working files, which tend to be saved as TIFF with layer compression, > can't be properly loaded and edited in GIMP.I also make use of a video editor > (not free but fairly inexpensive) which can edit MPEG2 files without > reencoding unchanged parts of the video, which makes it quite fast and > doesn't lose quality. Something like that probably does exist for Linux but I > haven't got around to looking, and familiarity is a big part of the > story.Another thing is the convenience of plug and play when it comes to > hardware - I don't think I've ever had to manually load a driver, everything > seems to work "out of the box" and that's a very good thing, saves a lot of > time and effort. I'm not sure what Linux is like in that respect, as I've had > no experience. > On my phone I have android and I tend to get on reasonably well with that. > I'm not sure what I will do if I ever need to change computer again. > /Gary > -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] writer: repeat a cell content (string) in a cell or in text
At 14:45 21/07/2015 +0200, Pier Andreit wrote: I would like to do in writer (tables or text) as in calc, if in cell A1 I have "something" and in cell A2 I insert "=A1" in cell A2 I'll have "something" The syntax would be "=", I think. I tried with formulas but didn't succeed. it seems that they treat only numbers... It seems so. any suggestion? Yes: create what you need in a spreadsheet and copy and paste the required cell range into your text document. It will appear as a table but will function like the spreadsheet section that it is. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] writer: repeat a cell content (string) in a cell or in text
I would like to do in writer (tables or text) as in calc, if in cell A1 I have “something” and in cell A2 I insert “=A1” in cell A2 I'll have “something” I tried with formulas but didn't succeed. it seems that they treat only numbers... any suggestion??? manythanks, ciao :-) pier -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
On 07/18/2015 09:25 PM, James E Lang wrote: > The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What > operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at > work? What factors influence the choice? > My first home computer was a BBC micro (anyone remember those?) That was back in the days when programming had to be really tight, only had 32Kb (yes, Kb) of RAM; long term storage was all external on cassette tapes, eventually upgraded to floppy disk drive (and the disks really were floppy). I've still got that computer and AFAIK it still works! My next machine was Acorn Archimedes, followed by RISC PC. It's a great shame that the marketing for those machines was so poor, leading to collapse of the company. The ARM chips had a great architecture and instruction set. After that, I got my first laptop, a Sony Vaio running windows XP. When I upgraded, which I was forced to do due to a machine failure, I got a laptop running Windows 7 - which is still my current machine. A better Windows, once I'd got used to it, but it had a real downer - couldn't get driver for my flatbed scanner - Canon didn't produce one. At work, in my first job I used a computer called a PDP 11 (ghastly thing); can't remember what the OS was called. In my second job I think we started off with some sort of mainframe, the details of which are hazy now. Later we migrated to Sun Spark workstations. In my last real job, used PCs running windows, I think it was XP at that time. Now in my office based voluntary work I use PCs with Windows 7. Did have a play with Win 8 on a laptop, but hated it. It might be OK for tablets, I don't know, but it was horrible to use with normal PC input devices. I have thought about upgrading to Linux but have never got around to it. This is mainly because of familiarity with certain software packages, especially Photoshop. I know there is GIMP for Linux, but it's not a patch - for one thing, it doesn't have the concept of adjustment layers; and that means that all my working files, which tend to be saved as TIFF with layer compression, can't be properly loaded and edited in GIMP.I also make use of a video editor (not free but fairly inexpensive) which can edit MPEG2 files without reencoding unchanged parts of the video, which makes it quite fast and doesn't lose quality. Something like that probably does exist for Linux but I haven't got around to looking, and familiarity is a big part of the story.Another thing is the convenience of plug and play when it comes to hardware - I don't think I've ever had to manually load a driver, everything seems to work "out of the box" and that's a very good thing, saves a lot of time and effort. I'm not sure what Linux is like in that respect, as I've had no experience. On my phone I have android and I tend to get on reasonably well with that. I'm not sure what I will do if I ever need to change computer again. /Gary -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
