[libreoffice-users] UNO XTextTable.getCellNames() ordering

2017-02-04 Thread Jens Tröger 
Hello,

This is a follow-up question to the forum thread: 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20=87294=409289#p409289

I am trying to find a definite answer to the ordering returned by 
getCellNames():

  
https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/text/XTextTable.html#getCellNames

Is there any order in the returned sequence, or is no order guaranteed? I noted 
that the sequence seems to contain the table’s cell names in left-to-right 
(cols) and top-to-bottom (rows) order, but that may be accidental.

Thanks,
Jens

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Starting libreoffice 5.1.4.2 in listening mode

2017-02-04 Thread Jim 

On 02/03/2017 11:26 AM, anne-ology wrote:

   Just 'searched' for 'listening modes' & 'listening modes in LO';
  under the first, there are numerous manuals, etc. - under the
second, nil.

   Hoping this helps you locate that for which you're searching,



Once I changed LO to libreoffice I got some hits. Most of them I had 
seen already but there was a couple of new ones and one of them actually 
worked.


Thanks,  Jim



From: Jim 
Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:02 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Starting libreoffice 5.1.4.2 in listening mode
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


I have been trying to start LO in listening mode so I can connect to it
with a external Python macro. I've tried various 'helloworld' examples and
I get errors with all of them.

Such as:

__main__.NoConnectException: Connector : couldn't connect to socket
(Success)

_main__.DisposedException: Binary URP bridge disposed during call


Googling hasn't been any help.


Could someone please show me a short example of how to do this?

Thanks,  Jim





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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Help in version 5.3.0.3

2017-02-04 Thread Bruce Hohl 
Did you install the separate help package for 5.3.0.3?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=deb-x86_64=5.3.0=pick

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 12:47 PM, M Henri Day  wrote:

> ​After upgrading recently to (the Swedish version of) LibreOffice 5.3.0.3,
> I find that I can no longer access LibreOffice Help - clicking on the
> Help-button and then LibreOffice Help (F1) instead opens a new browser
> window. This in contrast to the situation in LibreOffice 5.2.4.2, in which
> the same procedure opens, as expected, to the help pages
>
> A bug ? Has anyone else experienced this ?...
>
> Henri
>
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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Help in version 5.3.0.3

2017-02-04 Thread M Henri Day 
​After upgrading recently to (the Swedish version of) LibreOffice 5.3.0.3,
I find that I can no longer access LibreOffice Help - clicking on the
Help-button and then LibreOffice Help (F1) instead opens a new browser
window. This in contrast to the situation in LibreOffice 5.2.4.2, in which
the same procedure opens, as expected, to the help pages

A bug ? Has anyone else experienced this ?...

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar

2017-02-04 Thread M Henri Day 
2017-02-03 3:25 GMT+01:00 MR ZenWiz :

> This seems to be missing, or maybe I clicke don something that made it
> go away, but I can't find anything to help turn it back on.
>
> Is this a new "feature?"  The help command does not seem to show it
> being absent, but I don't see it any more.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MR


​The zoom button can be enabled ​by following the procedure outlined here :
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Adding_Buttons_to_Toolbars

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches

2017-02-04 Thread Rob Jasper 
Having spent a lifetime in problem handling and feature request I do not agree 
with Tom.

Here's my take-

Bugs:
- Anything that used to work and doesn't anymore is a bug (introduced by an 
update). Of course set aside features which are announced to be obsolete. 
- Anything not working which is supposed to work according requirements and/or 
documentation
- Anything that causes LO to crash

Feature requests:
- Anything that is not in requirements and/or documentation
- Anything users can't reasonably expect to work, but is desirable

As such, bugs need to be solved (since they shouldn't be there in the first 
place :-)).
Feature requests on the other hand is, once approved, new work in the pipeline, 
and we have to see when and if developers get time for it.

Rob.


On 4 feb. 2017, at 16:37, M Henri Day wrote:

> 2017-02-03 20:13 GMT+01:00 James E. Lang :
> 
>> That's an interesting point of view Tom.
>> 
>> In my opinion any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug
>> report and a new capability is the subject for a feature request. But, I'm
>> not a developer.
>> 
>> It would be nice if ordinary dictionary definitions applied to the words
>> used!
>> 
>> --
>> Jim
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tom Davies 
>> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>> Sent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 7:44
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches
>> 
>> Hi :)
>> Right now is a good time to post bug-reports and "feature requests".
>> 
>> "Feature requests" are what most 'normal' (ie non-devs) of us think of as
>> bugs.  It includes features that used to work but now don't and features
>> that don't quite work at all.
>> 
>> "Bug reports" are only things that cause the program or entire system to
>> crash (or that escalate privileges to super-users/ super-user/
>> administrator - but as normal users we probably wouldn't notice such
>> escalation).  In chatting with each other we often call things "bugs" or
>> say a thing is "buggy" but if it doesn't crash the system or cause it to
>> close unexpectedly, then it doesn't fit the developers notion of "bug", so
>> there is no point posting a bug-report about it - instead post as a
>> feature-request.
>> 
>> Similarly with the term "stable".  However badly a thing behaves, such as
>> familiar functionality suddenly not working, then the devs don't think of
>> that as showing the program is unstable.  A program is only unstable if it
>> crashes (or maybe that escalation thing) or if it crashes the whole
>> system.  LibreOffice is particularly unlikely to do either of those things
>> - there is a measurement of that sort of stability and LibreOffice scores
>> extraordinarily highly, far above much more respected or well-known
>> software.
>> 
>> It is nice to hear about good issues with new the branch of LibreOffice
>> as it allows us to be better prepared for the questions that 'normal' users
>> are likely to ask on this mailing list.  However reporting an issue to this
>> mailing list is extremely unlikely to result in the issue being (what we
>> would probably refer to as being) fixed.
>> 
>> 
>> Right now is probably the best time for doing proper bug-reports and
>> feature-requests because it's the time when the greatest percentage of devs
>> are focused on this branch and most interested in it's outcomes.
>> 
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>> 
> 
> ​The usage with which I am familiar corresponds to that mentioned by James
> above ; i e, ​
> ​«any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug report and a new
> capability is the subject for a feature request»​
> ​
> 
> Henri​
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches

2017-02-04 Thread M Henri Day 
2017-02-03 20:13 GMT+01:00 James E. Lang :

> That's an interesting point of view Tom.
>
> In my opinion any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug
> report and a new capability is the subject for a feature request. But, I'm
> not a developer.
>
> It would be nice if ordinary dictionary definitions applied to the words
> used!
>
> --
> Jim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Davies 
> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> Sent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 7:44
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches
>
> Hi :)
> Right now is a good time to post bug-reports and "feature requests".
>
> "Feature requests" are what most 'normal' (ie non-devs) of us think of as
> bugs.  It includes features that used to work but now don't and features
> that don't quite work at all.
>
> "Bug reports" are only things that cause the program or entire system to
> crash (or that escalate privileges to super-users/ super-user/
> administrator - but as normal users we probably wouldn't notice such
> escalation).  In chatting with each other we often call things "bugs" or
> say a thing is "buggy" but if it doesn't crash the system or cause it to
> close unexpectedly, then it doesn't fit the developers notion of "bug", so
> there is no point posting a bug-report about it - instead post as a
> feature-request.
>
> Similarly with the term "stable".  However badly a thing behaves, such as
> familiar functionality suddenly not working, then the devs don't think of
> that as showing the program is unstable.  A program is only unstable if it
> crashes (or maybe that escalation thing) or if it crashes the whole
> system.  LibreOffice is particularly unlikely to do either of those things
> - there is a measurement of that sort of stability and LibreOffice scores
> extraordinarily highly, far above much more respected or well-known
> software.
>
> It is nice to hear about good issues with new the branch of LibreOffice
> as it allows us to be better prepared for the questions that 'normal' users
> are likely to ask on this mailing list.  However reporting an issue to this
> mailing list is extremely unlikely to result in the issue being (what we
> would probably refer to as being) fixed.
>
>
> Right now is probably the best time for doing proper bug-reports and
> feature-requests because it's the time when the greatest percentage of devs
> are focused on this branch and most interested in it's outcomes.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>

​The usage with which I am familiar corresponds to that mentioned by James
above ; i e, ​
​«any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug report and a new
capability is the subject for a feature request»​
​

Henri​

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