Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
Late last year I converted to MySQL as the Backend and Base as the Front End. WHAT A DIFFERENCE As I said to people it's like getting out of your old broken-down, unreliable Beetle and driving around in the latest Rolls Royce!! Solid, fast, never crashes and is just fantastic!! MySQL isn't a Rolls Royce. PostgreSQL would be a Lexus LS. MySQL would rather be... *thinking* ...a Moskvitch? Or a ZIL? Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
-- Tim === 225 Janice Drive Athens, GA 30606-1638 email: t...@timdeaton.org home: 706-543-0592 cell: 706-248-6544 fax: 888-415-5991 web: www.timdeaton.org === I know the plans I have for you: Plans to prosper you and not to harm you; Plans to give you hope and a future. --- God (Jeremiah 29:11) On 5/14/2013 3:37 PM, James Knott wrote: Wolfgang Keller wrote: MySQL would rather be...*thinking* ...a Moskvitch? Or a ZIL? Lada? Yugo? Trabant? Pinto? ;-) Ok?? If MySQL is a Yugo, then what is the embedded implementation of HSQLDB? And what would be a plain-jane, but reliable Chevy? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
On 05/14/2013 04:46 PM, Tim Deaton wrote: -- Tim === 225 Janice Drive Athens, GA 30606-1638 email: t...@timdeaton.org home: 706-543-0592 cell: 706-248-6544 fax: 888-415-5991 web: www.timdeaton.org === I know the plans I have for you: Plans to prosper you and not to harm you; Plans to give you hope and a future. --- God (Jeremiah 29:11) On 5/14/2013 3:37 PM, James Knott wrote: Wolfgang Keller wrote: MySQL would rather be...*thinking* ...a Moskvitch? Or a ZIL? Lada? Yugo? Trabant? Pinto? ;-) Ok?? If MySQL is a Yugo, then what is the embedded implementation of HSQLDB? And what would be a plain-jane, but reliable Chevy? And what would HSQLDB 2.x be with Base connecting to the database files that have been extracted from an embedded ODB file? One guru on this mailing list seems to have reported that it works well. --Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
Hi All Tom says ... I'm fairly sure that quite a few people have had troubles with the internal back-end that were solved by 'just' moving to an external back-end. I vaguely remember someone even suffering data-loss using the embedded/internal back-end. Was there a bug-report? Should people be encouraged to stick with the internal/embedded back-end or warned off from it? And Hank replied ... My experience with the embedded database in Base has convinced me to move to an external back-end. I have had several instances of data loss particularly during sessions of heavy data input. While I'm in the process of moving my database to an external H2 database, I still use the embedded database carefully, however. I backup the embedded database before adding data, sparingly or working with the Report Writer. Both of these activitie have resulted in data loss in the past. I still like Base as a front end, however. I have to agree with you 200% Tom - and if some people don't like it - too bad!! IT'S TRUE!! - The 'Embedded engine/Base Front End' combination is a disaster!! I have been using Base for about 7 years now and had nothing but problems. It's slow, crashes all the time, freezes etc etc and FREQUENTLY takes the data file with it when it crashes. The only recourse is to back-up all the time, (several times each session), so that you can get back at your data and be prepared to enter stuff more than once during a busy session. Because of this I HAVE LOST and/or had to re-enter data time and time again!! This is supported by Hank above I see, (and I'm sure many others)!! Late last year I converted to MySQL as the Backend and Base as the Front End. WHAT A DIFFERENCE As I said to people it's like getting out of your old broken-down, unreliable Beetle and driving around in the latest Rolls Royce!! Solid, fast, never crashes and is just fantastic!! I'm currently running BOTH set-ups, on two different machines side-by-side, for cross checking purposes and the difference is startling when you do this. The one is slow and plodding, (and still crashes), and the other just works - and fast!! IMHO the current engine in Base should be dropped, (or fixed), and a change made to make stand-alone Base of any serious use. I saw recently a mention of wanting to do this and change top Firebird!! (??) For now I'm VERY happy with my 'MySQL/Base combination!! Best wishes IanW Pretoria RSA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
How are we to see this thread in the marketing list Tom? Just joining the list won't give it, will it? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
I'm curious as well. On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.ukwrote: How are we to see this thread in the marketing list Tom? Just joining the list won't give it, will it? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
Hi :) I used Forwards rather than Reply to all to send the message there but it didn't arrive in the right thread, of course. Using Nabble's Quote button and then copypaste might have been better. If you want to see the thread in Marketing then try using Nabble. you wont be able to post unless you are subscribed to the list but at least you can read. I wouldn't recommend it though as i got a pasting about it. Again. To be fair it was a bit off-topic! Regards from Tom :) - Original Message - From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 19:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems I'm curious as well. On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.ukwrote: How are we to see this thread in the marketing list Tom? Just joining the list won't give it, will it? Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
Hi :) The marketing list is trying to tell people to use the internal back-end in Base because it's so good that it's a great selling point. I'm fairly sure that quite a few people have had troubles with the internal back-end that were solved by 'just' moving to an external back-end. I vaguely remember someone even suffering data-loss using the embedded/internal back-end. Was there a bug-report? Should people be encouraged to stick with the internal/embedded back-end or warned off from it? Of course on the marketing list i make myself enormously unpopular by pointing out things like that. Is anyone able to give me links to fairly serious bug-reports about Base to help me make my case? Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
Hi Tom, My experience with the embedded database in Base has convinced me to move to an external back-end. I have had several instances of data loss particularly during sessions of heavy data input. While I'm in the process of moving my database to an external H2 database, I still use the embedded database carefully, however. I backup the embedded database before adding data, sparingly or working with the Report Writer. Both of these activitie have resulted in data loss in the past. I still like Base as a front end, however. Hank On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) The marketing list is trying to tell people to use the internal back-end in Base because it's so good that it's a great selling point. I'm fairly sure that quite a few people have had troubles with the internal back-end that were solved by 'just' moving to an external back-end. I vaguely remember someone even suffering data-loss using the embedded/internal back-end. Was there a bug-report? Should people be encouraged to stick with the internal/embedded back-end or warned off from it? Of course on the marketing list i make myself enormously unpopular by pointing out things like that. Is anyone able to give me links to fairly serious bug-reports about Base to help me make my case? Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
