Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
On 2013-08-04 6:28 PM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: To me, the AOO sidebar properties panel adds nothing. As you said, it only duplicates the top toolbar. More importantly (for me at least), the styles panel is buried *beneath* the properties panel. To be fair, it was a 'first effort'... Once it is more mature, I think it will be an excellent option, especially when it *replaces* the top menu bars - this will be a much better layout for anyone using widescreen monitors. I'm now wondering if this will always be optional? In my opinion, this should be similar to other programs, like, for example, Tree Style Tab extension for Firefox, that lets you put tabs on the side - meaning, it is either/or, not in addition to... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) +1 I think this could become great. A killer feature Regards from Tom :) From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 5 August 2013, 15:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? On 2013-08-04 6:28 PM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: To me, the AOO sidebar properties panel adds nothing. As you said, it only duplicates the top toolbar. More importantly (for me at least), the styles panel is buried *beneath* the properties panel. To be fair, it was a 'first effort'... Once it is more mature, I think it will be an excellent option, especially when it *replaces* the top menu bars - this will be a much better layout for anyone using widescreen monitors. I'm now wondering if this will always be optional? In my opinion, this should be similar to other programs, like, for example, Tree Style Tab extension for Firefox, that lets you put tabs on the side - meaning, it is either/or, not in addition to... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) Just out of curiosity has anyone tried the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 yet? I really liked the sound of the toolbar down the side so i just gave it a quick go. I was a tad disappointed to find that toolbar was in addition to the ones we both already have at the top and mostly was just a duplication of many of those buttons. However 1st time try-outs of new things seldom go completely smoothly! lol I would really like to see both LO and AOO go this route and faster. At the moment all programs seem intent on making the screen more and more like a letter-box slit with more and more wasted space at the sides and more and more crammed in at the topbottom. It's becoming tougher and tougher to see a whole document all at the same time. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 1:29 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Thanks, Tom. I always disable quickstarter as a matter of course. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; us...@openoffice.apache.org ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) Thanks :) It's actually easier for me to go from machine to machine and do 1. Open LibreOffice 2. Switch off quick starter 3. Install newer version of LO 4. Check for updates 5. switch on quick starter again than to listen to them go on and on about how slow LO is to start-up. it is a little slower than MSO but not by much. perhaps if the spalsh screen and progress bar appeared earlier to give them something to look at. Anyway i really should get on and install the 4.0.4 today if i can. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 11:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? There is an option in the Extension Manager to find updates. That is where I get the issue when I want to install the updates and sometimes the quickstarter will block the update, since you cannot shut down and restart LO completely with that option enabled. I do not know if it is still true with the 4.x versions, but it has been at least a year since I enabled the quickstarter option on my Ubuntu desktop and/or my Windows laptop. On 07/24/2013 06:21 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I have it on for my colleagues to make LO start-up just that bit faster. They pick on any slightest thing as a blocker and slower start-up drives them up the wall. They really have no clue about adding Extensions and haven't used LO enough to grumble about any 'missing' functionality. if they did i would add the appropriate Extension for them. I already do the updates for them anyway. Admittedly i am not in a perfect position and it's probably not a good idea to copy me. On my own logins i avoid the quick-starter because there is plenty else to get on with while waiting for something to open. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 10:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? On 07/24/2013 12:33 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. I always disable the Quickstart option. In the past, having it active caused issues to updating some of the add on extensions. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi Virgil If I may offer my input here as I have and still use both, with my clients mainly. Apache OOo has deprecated slightly, i.e. it has not caught up to LibreOffice. In the overall basic user features there is not much difference, but OOo stagnated, being firstly involved in the merger from Sun Microsystems to Oracle, who did not do much with OOo. This created the fork to LO and the development of LO continued. It was not until OOo was offered to Apache by Oracle, that it started to gain momentum again, but alas in my experience it is now playing catch-up with LO. One of the issues I have with my users using Apache OOo, is that they are able to open multiple single sessions of either Writer or Calc, and eventually their systems run out of resources and memory, generating a number of unnecessary service calls of complaints my system is slow etc. I have not experienced this with any clients using LO, and I am migrating my Apache OOo clients over to LO, due to this issue. So my opinion, off the bat, LO is the better choice. Regards Andrew Brown On 23/07/2013 09:38 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
I just installed AOO4 today and find that this also (as well as LO4) no longer supports the older file formats and crashes a bit so I will probably stick with LO 3.6 for now. steve On 2013-07-24 19:05, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Virgil If I may offer my input here as I have and still use both, with my clients mainly. Apache OOo has deprecated slightly, i.e. it has not caught up to LibreOffice. In the overall basic user features there is not much difference, but OOo stagnated, being firstly involved in the merger from Sun Microsystems to Oracle, who did not do much with OOo. This created the fork to LO and the development of LO continued. It was not until OOo was offered to Apache by Oracle, that it started to gain momentum again, but alas in my experience it is now playing catch-up with LO. One of the issues I have with my users using Apache OOo, is that they are able to open multiple single sessions of either Writer or Calc, and eventually their systems run out of resources and memory, generating a number of unnecessary service calls of complaints my system is slow etc. I have not experienced this with any clients using LO, and I am migrating my Apache OOo clients over to LO, due to this issue. So my opinion, off the bat, LO is the better choice. Regards Andrew Brown On 23/07/2013 09:38 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi Steve Umm!! I've not experienced this. Yes by default LO4 will load and save the new file formats, but you can change this by File - Save as then choose the format you want from the deopdown Save as type list. You can also permanently set this in Tools - Options - Load/Save - General - Document type - Always save as. This is even true for saving in the format of MSO document types temporarily, or permanently using the latter settings. Regards Andrew Brown On 24/07/2013 10:11 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: I just installed AOO4 today and find that this also (as well as LO4) no longer supports the older file formats and crashes a bit so I will probably stick with LO 3.6 for now. steve On 2013-07-24 19:05, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Virgil If I may offer my input here as I have and still use both, with my clients mainly. Apache OOo has deprecated slightly, i.e. it has not caught up to LibreOffice. In the overall basic user features there is not much difference, but OOo stagnated, being firstly involved in the merger from Sun Microsystems to Oracle, who did not do much with OOo. This created the fork to LO and the development of LO continued. It was not until OOo was offered to Apache by Oracle, that it started to gain momentum again, but alas in my experience it is now playing catch-up with LO. One of the issues I have with my users using Apache OOo, is that they are able to open multiple single sessions of either Writer or Calc, and eventually their systems run out of resources and memory, generating a number of unnecessary service calls of complaints my system is slow etc. I have not experienced this with any clients using LO, and I am migrating my Apache OOo clients over to LO, due to this issue. So my opinion, off the bat, LO is the better choice. Regards Andrew Brown On 23/07/2013 09:38 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
On 07/24/2013 12:33 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. I always disable the Quickstart option. In the past, having it active caused issues to updating some of the add on extensions. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) I have it on for my colleagues to make LO start-up just that bit faster. They pick on any slightest thing as a blocker and slower start-up drives them up the wall. They really have no clue about adding Extensions and haven't used LO enough to grumble about any 'missing' functionality. if they did i would add the appropriate Extension for them. I already do the updates for them anyway. Admittedly i am not in a perfect position and it's probably not a good idea to copy me. On my own logins i avoid the quick-starter because there is plenty else to get on with while waiting for something to open. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 10:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? On 07/24/2013 12:33 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. I always disable the Quickstart option. In the past, having it active caused issues to updating some of the add on extensions. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Thanks, Tom. I always disable quickstarter as a matter of course. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; us...@openoffice.apache.org ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Steve, Well yes, but Windows has completely different application configurations for the Launchers on OS X, where manipulation of each programs .APP and some Plist values. And there are major differences in launcher setup with info.plist and each applications .app file when moving between OS X 10.6, 10.7, and 10.8--indications are that won't even run on 10.9. And of course the mix of DE and application packaging on the Linux flavors is an interesting mix as well. So the three primary OS environments for configuring LibreOffice are different enough that we can't generalize across the OSs even though the code base is mostly in common. That is because installation/configuration is where things diverge the most. Windows is an ugly beast. Linux Kernels and Darwin have reasonable methods for the most part. Although Unity leaves me scratching my head on occasion. Stuart From: Steve Edmonds [steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:33 PM To: V Stuart Foote Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
