Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
On 02/10/2011, Vinod Nadiadwala thinw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. As previous stated by others, this is fundamentally wrong. How does ODF benefit from you using LO to create m$ documents??? Your choice is simple: use LO to cread odf documents, or pay m$ and continue to use m$ formats. If your business cannot afford m$... Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, What impudence; LO programmers should work for free to allow your company to increase _private_ profits! To repeat, how does LO benefit? Have you made a donation to ODF yet? For those seeking to use LO as an m$ clone, either make a donation to LO for the time you are wasting for LO compatibility with m$ or preferably, pay m$ and continue to use m$ products. When you find m$ formats 2010, 2011, 95, rtf, pptx, ppty, pptz are incompatible, please send your requests to m$, not here. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
On 02/10/2011, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote: I think other formats than ODF should be considered only as export formats, like pdf is. Work in ODF, save in ODF and, if you have to send your file, choose an export format accordingly to the usage of the file. If receiver of the document does not need to modify the file, pdf is the right format. If he needs to modify the document and is not able to work with ODF (nobody is perfect), then you should export your document to doc (MS-Office 97/2000/XP). But your ODF version should always be your reference version. By coincedence, was thinking about this whilst looking at the menu bar 'file'. There are 'save as' and 'export' options. Wouldn't be better from a design perspective to use the 'save as' option only for odf formats, and the option 'export' for non-odf (pdf, png, html, etc.) formats? JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
Il 03/10/2011 11:34, e-letter ha scritto: On 02/10/2011, Vinod Nadiadwalathinw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. As previous stated by others, this is fundamentally wrong. How does ODF benefit from you using LO to create m$ documents??? Your choice is simple: use LO to cread odf documents, or pay m$ and continue to use m$ formats. If your business cannot afford m$... Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, What impudence; LO programmers should work for free to allow your company to increase _private_ profits! To repeat, how does LO benefit? Have you made a donation to ODF yet? For those seeking to use LO as an m$ clone, either make a donation to LO for the time you are wasting for LO compatibility with m$ or preferably, pay m$ and continue to use m$ products. When you find m$ formats 2010, 2011, 95, rtf, pptx, ppty, pptz are incompatible, please send your requests to m$, not here. This is not the kind of attitude that will attract MS Office users to LibO/OOo or here to ask for advice. Very smart of you. Next time think twice before hitting send, and ask yourself: will these insults help LibO/OOo ? -- Marcello Romani -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
El 03/10/11 11:38, e-letter escribi:On 02/10/2011, Jean-Baptiste Faurejbf.faure@orange.frwrote:I think other formats than ODF should be considered only as export formats, like pdf is. Work in ODF, save in ODF and, if you have to send your file, choose an export format accordingly to the usage of the file. If receiver of the document does not need to modify the file, pdf is the right format. If he needs to modify the document and is not able to work with ODF (nobody is perfect), then you should export your document to doc (MS-Office 97/2000/XP). But your ODF version should always be your reference version.By coincedence, was thinking about this whilst looking at the menu bar 'file'. There are 'save as' and 'export' options. Wouldn't be better from a design perspective to use the 'save as' option only for odf formats, and the option 'export' for non-odf (pdf, png, html, etc.) formats?JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la prennitde vos documents. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted+1This canmake a difference,not much,but a step. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
Il 03/10/2011 13:13, jorge ha scritto: Marcello: Excuse me but the problem is to think that the program problem is LO/Ooo. The main think for this program is funtion well in their owns formats (Open standard Format). Try to help people whom using ms is an extra feature but not an obligation. When someone try to make changes (House, home, job and many others like this), should try to do step by step until get the all changes. I suggest you to install your last msoficce that you have in your company in all pc and make the change step by step: 1) Explain to employees in good terms, how necesary is to make the change. How important are the four libertys for your company and them that offer the open sourse (Free software). 2) Keep installed both program in each computer, and start to make the change. Give good instruccion and manuals to your employees about Writer, Calc, Impress, Base, Math, Draw. Assure that they read, practice and learn in a good time. Then, the new documents have to make in LO, and the documents alreary made that are recognized by LO, too; using the LO native formats (Open Standard Format). But if the employees have tecnical problems that are dificults to solve, they would use msoffice ... while they find the correct answers in LO. 3) Assure that in your company there aren't lazy people that resist for only resist to make the change. 4) Those steps are the first step to change in the future the operative system and start to use Linux (You have to study what is the best for your company) and you would do the change following that steps that I expose you. Regards and I hope you get the goal ! Jorge Rodríguez _ Now if you reread your comment and the one I was replying to you'll notice a difference: you write sound suggestions to acheive a smooth migration, e-letter instead writes insults to the OP. This is what I was replying to. El lun, 03-10-2011 a las 11:49 +0200, Marcello Romani escribió: Il 03/10/2011 11:34, e-letter ha scritto: On 02/10/2011, Vinod Nadiadwalathinw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. As previous stated by others, this is fundamentally wrong. How does ODF benefit from you using LO to create m$ documents??? Your choice is simple: use LO to cread odf documents, or pay m$ and continue to use m$ formats. If your business cannot afford m$... Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, What impudence; LO programmers should work for free to allow your company to increase _private_ profits! To repeat, how does LO benefit? Have you made a donation to ODF yet? For those seeking to use LO as an m$ clone, either make a donation to LO for the time you are wasting for LO compatibility with m$ or preferably, pay m$ and continue to use m$ products. When you find m$ formats 2010, 2011, 95, rtf, pptx, ppty, pptz are incompatible, please send your requests to m$, not here. This is not the kind of attitude that will attract MS Office users to LibO/OOo or here to ask for advice. Very smart of you. Next time think twice before hitting send, and ask yourself: will these insults help LibO/OOo ? -- Marcello Romani -- Marcello Romani -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
My comment on this benefit issue is the following: Reading and writing ODF is the way I hope the world of Office Suite default formats go to. Until then, a office suite needs to be able to read/write the other file formats used my the market-place. Right now MS formats dominate the market. When a person [or company], say using Mac or Linux, wants to create a document for their use, then ODF is fine and maybe preferred. Now if that same document needs to be shared to others, these other people will most likely have MSO, so you will need to save the document as .doc or other MSO format for their use. As time progresses, you can tell friends and associates about the benefits of LO and see if you can persuade them to give LO a try. Right now, I am setting up a system for a group home. It will be Ubuntu/Edubuntu instead of Windows due to money issues. Also the same money issue is used for not buying MSO, if I had a Windows OS system for their use. They will be typing documents to be shared with agencies that have MSO-only. So the fact that LO reads/writes ODF as well as MSO file formats works for them. They may not want to use and ODF formats, for now. Later, they may start looking into using ODF instead, as the need arises. I believe ODF is the future. MS wanted their open formats to be the future so they would have the control over it, instead of using ODF where no one company is in control. MS wants to control everything to do with the office suite and computer software markets. They are loosing that control slowly. They are now using a form of ODF in the most current office packages, so ODF is slowly creeping into MS's world. So to answer the question: ODF is the future, but for now you must be able to use the other file formats that are part of the office market-place. On 10/03/2011 05:34 AM, e-letter wrote: On 02/10/2011, Vinod Nadiadwalathinw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. As previous stated by others, this is fundamentally wrong. How does ODF benefit from you using LO to create m$ documents??? Your choice is simple: use LO to cread odf documents, or pay m$ and continue to use m$ formats. If your business cannot afford m$... Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, What impudence; LO programmers should work for free to allow your company to increase _private_ profits! To repeat, how does LO benefit? Have you made a donation to ODF yet? For those seeking to use LO as an m$ clone, either make a donation to LO for the time you are wasting for LO compatibility with m$ or preferably, pay m$ and continue to use m$ products. When you find m$ formats 2010, 2011, 95, rtf, pptx, ppty, pptz are incompatible, please send your requests to m$, not here. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
On 03/10/2011 14:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: MS wants to control everything to do with the office suite and computer software markets. Agree with that - witness the debate on the UEFI Secure Boot that MS will be requiring OEM Vendors to implement in order to carry the Windows 8 logo on their products. Read about that here: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/some-w8-pcs-wont-turn-secure-boot-red-hat-warns They are loosing that control slowly. They are now using a form of ODF in the most current office packages, so ODF is slowly creeping into MS's world. There are even people on the MS Answers forum recommending LO as a replacement Office suite! However some of the implementation of ODF in MS Office 2007 is broken - for example if you open an ODS document in Excel all the formulae are stripped out to be replaced by values only! (What use is that I ask myself?) Whether that has been fixed in Office 2010 I don't know. (I don't intend to find out unless I am forced to!) So to answer the question: ODF is the future, but for now you must be able to use the other file formats that are part of the office market-place. I certainly agree with that - there will come a time when critical mass may force the opposite! -- Registered Linux User no 240308 Ubuntu 10.04 (yay!) Windows 7 (unfortunately) Say No to OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8 I only accept odf or pdf documents -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
I know I had it on one of my backup DVDs. I will look for it when I have a chance. On 10/03/2011 12:28 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 03/10/2011 17:21, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I wonder if you can use that filter with 2007? Yes you can, and it works much better (as you said) than the built-in MSO filters. Unfortunately if you don't have a copy already then Sun require payment for it now, unless you know someone like me who got it when it was free! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. I know how to do it manually, but i want to it to be applied to all users using some registry entry or configuration file, is there any way to do it, as i have 200+ pc's in my company and configuring each user is some hectic job, let me know if solution if anybody have. Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, Vino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
Hi, Le 02/10/2011 11:38, Vinod Nadiadwala a écrit : Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. Bad idea. As MS-Office formats are foreign formats for LibreOffice, your users wil have a less good user experience with LibO because you force the software to make format conversions each time you open or save a document. I think other formats than ODF should be considered only as export formats, like pdf is. Work in ODF, save in ODF and, if you have to send your file, choose an export format accordingly to the usage of the file. If receiver of the document does not need to modify the file, pdf is the right format. If he needs to modify the document and is not able to work with ODF (nobody is perfect), then you should export your document to doc (MS-Office 97/2000/XP). But your ODF version should always be your reference version. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
Hi :) You could copy the config folder as that contains all the settings, templates, galleries and extensions/add-ons/plugins and so on. This thread might help explain http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426 Somewhere in OpenOffice.org there were some excellent instrcutions for corporate deployments. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 2/10/11, Vinod Nadiadwala thinw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vinod Nadiadwala thinw...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc.. To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 2 October, 2011, 10:38 Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. I know how to do it manually, but i want to it to be applied to all users using some registry entry or configuration file, is there any way to do it, as i have 200+ pc's in my company and configuring each user is some hectic job, let me know if solution if anybody have. Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, Vino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc..
With regard to customizing install settings for corporate deployment, this thread is the closest I found in a search of all OpenOffice.org: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=38097 Read from the end toward the front to find the most promising solution rather than all the ways that failed first. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:09 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc.. Hi :) You could copy the config folder as that contains all the settings, templates, galleries and extensions/add-ons/plugins and so on. This thread might help explain http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426 Somewhere in OpenOffice.org there were some excellent instrcutions for corporate deployments. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 2/10/11, Vinod Nadiadwala thinw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vinod Nadiadwala thinw...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Default file save format to MSOffice (doc, xls, ppt) etc.. To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 2 October, 2011, 10:38 Hi, I am migrating my company's pc to libreoffice on windows, all my users are using windows terminal services, now i want to set default file save format to MS-Office i.e. .doc, .xls, .ppt to all users. I know how to do it manually, but i want to it to be applied to all users using some registry entry or configuration file, is there any way to do it, as i have 200+ pc's in my company and configuring each user is some hectic job, let me know if solution if anybody have. Thanks for the great job LibreOffice developers, Vino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
