Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On 2011-09-13, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 09/13/2011 12:57 PM, Michael Reich wrote: On 9/12/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 11013 through 11042): [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11013 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [...] [libreoffice-users] Help w Spreadsheet function? 11014 - JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11016 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11017 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [...] Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet others with the same subject are not grouped. Is the problem the way users are posting messages? It seems like a small thing, but it's driving me nuts. Maybe something is wrong with the headers, or the digest only groups directly related messages together (maybe B is only grouped with A if it is a reply to A). Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. E-mails *are* usually threaded, apart from messages sent with a couple bad clients. Even if you've never seen a client threading e-mails, these e-mails still have the threading information in the headers. Don't confuse this with subject-based grouping of messages. -- Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:15:10PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not remember ever seeing a email based list that worked, and a good threading/grouping system for any of the email clients I have used. Have you looked at Alpine or Mutt? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Digest Format
The format of the LibreOffice digest mail list is driving me crazy. It doesn't seem to be threaded (grouping like messages together) at all and it's a huge annoyance to lumber through the topics to see what's in the digest. The old OOO digest was/is much better organized. Is there a way for me to get my digest in a more organized format? On 9/11/11 1:00 PM, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 10953 through 10982): [libreoffice-users] Re: odf purists mailing list request 10953 - =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBTw6RnZXI=?= saege...@t-online.de [libreoffice-users] Anyone else having trouble with the OOo templates site? 10954 - Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10955 - Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk [libreoffice-users] Anyone else having trouble with the OOo templates site? 10956 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: Tools - options - General - Paths problem. 10957 - John Williams j...@ihug.co.nz [libreoffice-users] 72 hours plus 10958 - David H. Lipman dlip...@verizon.net [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet 'selection list' 10959 - Jim Croxall jim.crox...@yahoo.com [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10960 - soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet 'selection list' 10961 - soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10962 - Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com 10976 - Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10963 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Tools - options - General - Paths problem. 10964 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10965 - Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10966 - Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10967 - Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10968 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10969 - soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10970 - nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10971 - Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10972 - nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10973 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: odf purists mailing list request 10974 - Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org [libreoffice-users] annoying restore window 10975 - Guy Voets nimant...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Read Error for Graphics 10977 - Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10978 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] annoying restore window 10979 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: annoying restore window 10980 - Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 10981 - jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet 'selection list' 10982 - Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Digest Format
Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet others with the same subject are not grouped. Is the problem the way users are posting messages? It seems like a small thing, but it's driving me nuts. On 9/12/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 11013 through 11042): [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11013 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 11015 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11019 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11022 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11034 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11037 - Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de 11038 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_S=E4ger?= saege...@t-online.de 11039 - Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Help w Spreadsheet function? 11014 - JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11016 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11017 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?) 11018 - Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. Yes, I have seen many lists/forums that are threaded, some good and some bad. You are talking about digest lists. What are your reasons for using the digest list? I personally do not use one, so I do not know what the issues you have. On 09/13/2011 12:57 PM, Michael Reich wrote: Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet others with the same subject are not grouped. Is the problem the way users are posting messages? It seems like a small thing, but it's driving me nuts. On 9/12/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 11013 through 11042): [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11013 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 11015 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11019 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11022 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11034 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11037 - Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de 11038 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_S=E4ger?= saege...@t-online.de 11039 - Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Help w Spreadsheet function? 11014 - JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11016 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11017 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?) 11018 - Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 01:33:20PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. Yes, I have seen many lists/forums that are threaded, some good and some bad. Does the above sentence contradict the previous one? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
I subscribe to digest versions on lists which generate a fairly large number of messages. It just cuts down on the total volume of messages coming ot my inbox. A lot of the individual messages are not of interest to me, and when the digest is 'threaded,' it makes it a lot faster to skip to the topics I am interested in. As it is, messages on a variety of topics get interspersed with each other making it very tedious to wade through. I don't think it's all controlled by the mail client; some of it must be controlled by the mail list. I suspect part of the problem is the way messages get posted. I've seen on other lists that if people reply to a message, but change the substance, the messages get threaded wrong. I know the OOO list is much more readable (for me). That could change as it migrates to an Apache list. On 9/13/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:33:20 -0400 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. Yes, I have seen many lists/forums that are threaded, some good and some bad. You are talking about digest lists. What are your reasons for using the digest list? I personally do not use one, so I do not know what the issues you have. On 09/13/2011 12:57 PM, Michael Reich wrote: Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet others with the same subject are not grouped. Is the problem the way users are posting messages? It seems like a small thing, but it's driving me nuts. On 9/12/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 11013 through 11042): [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11013 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 11015 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11019 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11022 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11034 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 11037 - Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de 11038 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_S=E4ger?= saege...@t-online.de 11039 - Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Help w Spreadsheet function? 11014 - JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11016 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats? 11017 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?) 11018 - Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On 13/09/2011, Michael Reich reich.mi...@gmail.com wrote: The format of the LibreOffice digest mail list is driving me crazy. It doesn't seem to be threaded (grouping like messages together) at all and it's a huge annoyance to lumber through the topics to see what's in the digest. The old OOO digest was/is much better organized. Is there a way for me to get my digest in a more organized format? Viewing this digest via the gmail web interface, you should note that all messages are viewed inline and not as attachments, which is the standard expected behaviour stated by one of the LO programmers. Messages seem to be organised via date. To reply to messages from digest mode, the recommended method is to use the reply address syntax: users+get-[messagenumber]@... to receive an individual message of interest. This allows the thread to be maintained for specific messages that you write replies, whilst the advantage of digest mode (i.e. a single message) is retained separately. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On 13/09/2011, Michael Reich reich.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet others with the same subject are not grouped. Is the problem the way users are posting messages? Unlike other mailing list managers (e.g. mailman) you cannot reply to messages directly in the digest mode by copying the original message subject and retain the message thread. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On 09/13/2011 02:08 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 01:33:20PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. Yes, I have seen many lists/forums that are threaded, some good and some bad. Does the above sentence contradict the previous one? Browser based lists/forums, not email based lists. Nabble is browser based, while I use the email based list for LO. I do not remember ever seeing a email based list that worked, and a good threading/grouping system for any of the email clients I have used. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
