Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-30 Thread Jay Lozier

On 01/29/2012 12:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:



Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?

I am running Mint with Cinnamon. LO runs properly.


This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the 
Users as well.


Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I 
think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it 
looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues 
with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying 
windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to 
other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux 
Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x 
style of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint 
since they still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it 
from their source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork 
of Debian] they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to 
keep their users happy.


Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux 
Mint 12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA 
for; Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.


I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not 
like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So 
I was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell 
combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date 
OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At 
least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the 
repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.


http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like 
GNOME 3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will 
either have to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is 
chosen, then they have to use something other than the standard GNOME 
3 desktop.


For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are 
packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of 
GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of 
the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me 
to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.  
Now, if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try 
Mint 12 with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old 
system [bios will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not 
even Win2000] a replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can 
test Cinnamon with LO, and I would like to know if it does work well 
with LO.






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[libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions



Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?

This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the 
Users as well.


Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I 
think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it 
looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues 
with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying 
windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to 
other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux 
Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x style 
of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint since they 
still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it from their 
source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork of Debian] 
they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to keep their 
users happy.


Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux Mint 
12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA for; 
Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.


I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not 
like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So I 
was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell 
combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date 
OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At 
least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the 
repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.


http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like GNOME 
3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will either have 
to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is chosen, then they 
have to use something other than the standard GNOME 3 desktop.


For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are 
packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of 
GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of 
the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me 
to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.  Now, 
if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try Mint 12 
with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old system [bios 
will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not even Win2000] a 
replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can test Cinnamon with 
LO, and I would like to know if it does work well with LO.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 01/29/2012 12:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


 Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?
Yes with Gnome 3, Clem added some features to Gnome 3 so that the DE has
features from 2.X in addition to the normal Gnome 3 for Linux Mint 12.

I believe Cinnamon and Mate are alternate DE's. Cinnamon, I believe, is
new DE while Mate is a fork/continuation of Gnome 2. Cinnamon 1.2 is
considered stable and has been released.

I have briefly looked at Cinnamon and as I remember I had no problems
with LO or any other packages I had tried.

 This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the
 Users as well.

 Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I
 think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it
 looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues
 with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying
 windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to
 other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux
 Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x
 style of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint
 since they still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it
 from their source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork
 of Debian] they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to
 keep their users happy.

 Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux
 Mint 12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA
 for; Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.

 I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not
 like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So
 I was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell
 combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date
 OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At
 least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the
 repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.

 http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

 With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like
 GNOME 3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will
 either have to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is
 chosen, then they have to use something other than the standard GNOME
 3 desktop.

 For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are
 packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of
 GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of
 the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me
 to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup. 
 Now, if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try
 Mint 12 with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old
 system [bios will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not
 even Win2000] a replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can
 test Cinnamon with LO, and I would like to know if it does work well
 with LO.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


The way I read it, Cinnamon was the default for Mint 12.  I could be 
wrong though.


Right now, from what I have seen in the screen clips for Mint 12, I do 
not see any panels or other way to bring up the menu system so you can 
run/install packages.  The only thing that is shown is the Home folder 
icon and the Computer/Terminal looking icon.


On 01/29/2012 02:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 01/29/2012 12:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?

Yes with Gnome 3, Clem added some features to Gnome 3 so that the DE has
features from 2.X in addition to the normal Gnome 3 for Linux Mint 12.

I believe Cinnamon and Mate are alternate DE's. Cinnamon, I believe, is
new DE while Mate is a fork/continuation of Gnome 2. Cinnamon 1.2 is
considered stable and has been released.

I have briefly looked at Cinnamon and as I remember I had no problems
with LO or any other packages I had tried.

This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the
Users as well.

Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I
think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it
looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues
with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying
windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to
other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux
Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x
style of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint
since they still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it
from their source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork
of Debian] they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to
keep their users happy.

Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux
Mint 12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA
for; Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.

I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not
like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So
I was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell
combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date
OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At
least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the
repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like
GNOME 3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will
either have to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is
chosen, then they have to use something other than the standard GNOME
3 desktop.

For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are
packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of
GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of
the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me
to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.
Now, if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try
Mint 12 with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old
system [bios will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not
even Win2000] a replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can
test Cinnamon with LO, and I would like to know if it does work well
with LO.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 01/29/2012 02:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

 The way I read it, Cinnamon was the default for Mint 12.  I could be
 wrong though.
Cinnamon will be the default for Mint 13, it is available for 12. The
default for 12 is Clem's modified Gnome 3

 Right now, from what I have seen in the screen clips for Mint 12, I do
 not see any panels or other way to bring up the menu system so you can
 run/install packages.  The only thing that is shown is the Home folder
 icon and the Computer/Terminal looking icon.

 On 01/29/2012 02:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
 On 01/29/2012 12:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

 Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?
 Yes with Gnome 3, Clem added some features to Gnome 3 so that the DE has
 features from 2.X in addition to the normal Gnome 3 for Linux Mint 12.

 I believe Cinnamon and Mate are alternate DE's. Cinnamon, I believe, is
 new DE while Mate is a fork/continuation of Gnome 2. Cinnamon 1.2 is
 considered stable and has been released.

 I have briefly looked at Cinnamon and as I remember I had no problems
 with LO or any other packages I had tried.
 This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the
 Users as well.

 Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I
 think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it
 looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues
 with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying
 windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to
 other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux
 Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x
 style of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint
 since they still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it
 from their source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork
 of Debian] they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to
 keep their users happy.

 Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux
 Mint 12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA
 for; Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.

 I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not
 like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So
 I was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell
 combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date
 OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At
 least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the
 repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.

 http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

 With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like
 GNOME 3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will
 either have to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is
 chosen, then they have to use something other than the standard GNOME
 3 desktop.

 For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are
 packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of
 GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of
 the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me
 to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.
 Now, if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try
 Mint 12 with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old
 system [bios will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not
 even Win2000] a replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can
 test Cinnamon with LO, and I would like to know if it does work well
 with LO.







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jsloz...@gmail.com


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