Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
On 2020-06-11 17:32, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:31:39 +0100 Brian Barker dijo: At 21:06 10/06/2020 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have a graphic on a page in Writer. [...] I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. If you go to the Wrap tab of the Image dialogue (Format | Image | Properties | Wrap or right-click | Properties | Wrap), do you not see Spacing? Increase Right to some suitable positive value. Aha! A completely different way to solve the problem. The Edit Contour option still does not work - can't select or do anything. But this solution worked, and probably a lot easier than trying to edit the contour. I had the Properties window open numerous times, but completely missed the Wrap tab. :-) Maybe the fact that it seems to be "a completely different way" is a problem: Actually, what Brian said was what I meant: ... I have a graphic on a page in Writer. The graphic is about 4cm wide and about 10cm high, so I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. To fix this I tried Wrap > Edit Contour. ... If this is a simple rectangle (4x10), what happens when you just uncheck "Contour" and set Spacing:Right to whatever you want? (To begin, ignore Left, Top, Bottom, or just set them to 0.) Brian's gift [I have long admired his gift for simple clarity] was to realize that you were not looking at the Image Properties dialog box, and point you to it, and from there to the Wrap tab. My mistake was to assume you were already there, and just needed to forget about the Contour. It strikes me as a defect to be corrected, that two entry points bring you to different ways, with different capabilities, to set the wrap characteristics. I will star this thread to tag for a bug report. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
Hi John, > > Also, in poking around I note that there is a new version of LO > available. I hate programs that come out with new versions every couple > of months. Instead of installing it I think I'm going to uninstall this > 6.3.4.2 and install LO from the Ubuntu repositories. That won't get > updated so often. Then hope they will fix the security-bug for Writer-forms, which is only fixed in LO 6.4.4.2 and in no earlier version. Regards Robert -- Homepage: https://www.familiegrosskopf.de/robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
At 21:06 10/06/2020 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have a graphic on a page in Writer. [...] I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. If you go to the Wrap tab of the Image dialogue (Format | Image | Properties | Wrap or right-click | Properties | Wrap), do you not see Spacing? Increase Right to some suitable positive value. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:31:39 +0100 Brian Barker dijo: >At 21:06 10/06/2020 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: >>I have a graphic on a page in Writer. [...] I have aligned it left >>and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the >>right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the >>side of the graphic. > >If you go to the Wrap tab of the Image dialogue (Format | Image | >Properties | Wrap or right-click | Properties | Wrap), do you not see >Spacing? Increase Right to some suitable positive value. Aha! A completely different way to solve the problem. The Edit Contour option still does not work - can't select or do anything. But this solution worked, and probably a lot easier than trying to edit the contour. I had the Properties window open numerous times, but completely missed the Wrap tab. Thanks! Also, in poking around I note that there is a new version of LO available. I hate programs that come out with new versions every couple of months. Instead of installing it I think I'm going to uninstall this 6.3.4.2 and install LO from the Ubuntu repositories. That won't get updated so often. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
Hi John, one hint: *.jpg can't contain transparent background. The contur is mostly set to this transparent background. I would prefer to change the background in the *.png to transparaent background to see how contur should work automatically. You are using LO 6.3.4.2. LO 6.3 has had end of life at the end of last month. So if it is a bug you will be asked first to reproduce it in LO 6.4.4.2. You could send me the graphic (and also a document, where you tested) per private mail. Regards Robert -- Homepage: https://www.familiegrosskopf.de/robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:53:41 -0400 John Kaufmann dijo: >On 2020-06-11 00:06, John Jason Jordan wrote: >> ... >> I have a graphic on a page in Writer. The graphic is about 4cm wide >> and about 10cm high, so I have aligned it left and set contour to >> wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the >> graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the >> graphic. To fix this I tried Wrap > Edit Contour. ... > >If this is a simple rectangle (4x10), what happens when you just >uncheck "Contour" and set Spacing:Right to whatever you want? (To >begin, ignore Left, Top, Bottom, or just set them to 0.) Thanks to everyone who replied, but nothing has worked. It might help if I explain that the graphic is a set of three ancient alphabets, each in its own column, with a fourth column containing a transcription to a modern Roman character. All the characters, including the fourth column are bitmaps; there is no 'text' as such anywhere in the graphic. And it would be impossible to recreate it as a table with text because the ancient characters don't exist in any font; they were created from photographs of archeological materials. I obtained this graphic originally as a PNG. When I couldn't adjust the contour I used the GIMP to export it as a JPG, but that also failed. Finally, I exported it as an EPS, but still no luck. Changing the anchor to paragraph, page, or character makes no difference. When I try to adjust the contour with the PNG or the JPG I see a faint line around the right and left edges of the characters. The line jumps in and out a bit, as the characters are all different, and the line ultimately forms a sort of 'bounding box' encompassing all the characters in the graphic. I can select this bounding box and even drag it around, and I can also delete it. But I cannot change its size or shape. And I have no idea what it is - no 'handles' on it. I can also select the entire graphic in the edit contour window, which then gives me a perfectly rectangular item with handles. But I can't do anything with it - I can't move it, resize it, or change it in any way. If I use the EPS version of the graphic there is no bounding box. I can't select anything. With any of the three versions of the graphic I tried all the tools in the edit contour window, but none of them allow me to do anything except the 'select point' tool. That allows me to select the entire bounding box, which looks like it has a point at the rightmost and leftmost of each character, but I can't do anything with any of the points. All I can do is select all of them and stare at them. The edit contour window also has a scroll box with '10%' in it as the default. I tried setting it to different percentages, but I can't find any way to make them cause any changes. The Help files don't mention this scroll box, so I don't know what it is for. In fact, the Help file doesn't say anything about any of the tools in the window. I think this is a bug. In the meantime, in order to get the job done I created a second blank graphic frame about 1cm wide and the same height as my graphic and placed it immediately to the right of my graphic. After setting text wrap to right for the new, blank graphic the text is no longer smashed into the main graphic. But there's something seriously wrong with the way the edit contour window works, or fails to work. I could upload my graphic if this list can take an attachment. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
On 2020-06-11 00:06, John Jason Jordan wrote: ... I have a graphic on a page in Writer. The graphic is about 4cm wide and about 10cm high, so I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. To fix this I tried Wrap > Edit Contour. ... If this is a simple rectangle (4x10), what happens when you just uncheck "Contour" and set Spacing:Right to whatever you want? (To begin, ignore Left, Top, Bottom, or just set them to 0.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
Hi John, > > I have a graphic on a page in Writer. The graphic is about 4cm wide and > about 10cm high, so I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap > right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This > works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. To fix > this I tried Wrap > Edit Contour. The palette opens, but none of the > options does anything. For example, I selected the rectangle, and when > I try to draw a rectangle in the palette with the mouse, nothing > happens. Ditto for all the other tools. Have tested this: Opened Wrap → Edit Contour. Clicked on "Edit Points". Could move the points, could delete points. It's working here with LO 6.4.4.2 and also LO 6.3.5.2 on OpenSUSE 15.1 64bit rpm Linux. Packages from LO directly. Regards Robert -- Homepage: https://www.familiegrosskopf.de/robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Edit contour not working
LO 6.3.4.2 on Xubuntu 18.04, up to date. LO is downloaded from LO, not from Ubuntu repositories. I have a graphic on a page in Writer. The graphic is about 4cm wide and about 10cm high, so I have aligned it left and set contour to wrap right so that the text will flow down on the right of the graphic. This works, but the text is smashed into the side of the graphic. To fix this I tried Wrap > Edit Contour. The palette opens, but none of the options does anything. For example, I selected the rectangle, and when I try to draw a rectangle in the palette with the mouse, nothing happens. Ditto for all the other tools. The graphic was a PNG, so I converted it to a JPG just in case that was the problem, but no change. I still can't change the contour for the text wrap. Suggestions? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
