Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Hi :) In Ubuntu i try to use The Janitor occasionally or from the grub-boot-menu choose recovery mode and then Clear some space. I think some other distros offer that 2nd option but i don#'t know how to or even if i would want to risk trying the janitor in other distros. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 0:24 CCleaner is not necessarily a registry cleaner ... it can do that; but it mainly is used to clean out the caches. And there are more than this one listed on this site - Gizmo's Freeware Utilities http://www.techsupportalert.com/. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.comwrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: In factyour workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.au**wrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Hi :) The devs are doing a code clean up as part of the whole process. The whole code has been reduced by somewhere around 30% last time i heard. Even before the code-clean-up started, and AOO at the moment, are still far tinier than MS Office. For something really tiny you might having a quick go with Gnome Office, that is AbiWord (word-processor) and Gnumeric (spreadsheets). Neither have the type of integration that LO has with all it's other modules, such as Impress or Draw but i think Gnumeric manages to have some very nice features squeezed into it's tiny size. AbiWord can be a bit of a pain as it lacks many of the nice features we seldom use in Writer. For me the annoying thing was not being able to set it to default to saving everything in MS formats which i rarely do nowadays anyway. Another option if you are looking for smallerlighter is google-docs although that kinda requires a decent internet connection. Anyway, the size is coming down and becoming more compact but the delay in start-up might be something the devs could solve if a bug-report was posted about the 2 different issues; 1. clearing the caches 2. stopping so many network calls at start-up I doubt they can do much about 1 but maybe 2 is fixable? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 0:16 Well, when you uncover the solution, ... ... ... well, I'll be watching for a solution to this 'bug' whenever ;-) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Hi :) It is the files on the drive (or rather, partition) that get fragmented. Not the partition itself. Ntfs tries to cramp all the files onto the beginning of the drive. When you add things to a file then it can no longer fill the space comfortably so a chunk of the file needs to be written further along. Once you have added things to quite a few files there is a bit of a mess which Ntfs then has trouble in tracking and the read/write head bounces backwards and frowards all around the partition collect all the parts of the file. Ext2, 3 and 4 all leave comfortable gaps after the ends of files and if the file still wont fit into the extra space that has been reserved for it then it just tries to write the entire file elsewhere or maybe (rarely) shift a few other files around to make space. Files do occasionally get fragmented but not quite as often and usually only when some fool has nearly filled their hard-drive. Then i get a bit lost because although Ext2, 3 and 4 carefully avoid fragmentation they use the inode system for keeping track so that even if files do get fragmented the OS doesn't suffer. So why bother to avoid fragmentation? What is inode? The clincher is that most Windows defraggers (or at least the official MS ones) can't defrag system files (or at least not well and not easily), critically the virtual memory (which gets called swap in GnuLinux). Since virtual memory was so crucial to a system one might have expected it to be set to avoid letting it fragment ever. On Windows systems it's reasonably easy but very fiddly to set virtual memory to a fixed amount and that significantly stops any further slow-down. You still get some due to the registry kludge and other mis-management of key resources but the major difference seems to happen when you defrag and fix the virtual memory. On GnuLinux systems the Swap is often given it's own 'drive' (really a partition on a drive) so that it doesn't have a chance of getting fragmented, ever. Again this can be done in Windows but it's never the default. Also Swap/Virtual-memory in GnuLinux can be set to be a file instead of a partition and that might be easier for people who only need a swap in the unlikely event they hibernate. Again it's weird that GnuLinux takes an extra unneeded precaution against something it 'shouldn't' ever suffer from but the one platform that does suffer from it doesn't do anything to protect against it. It's just one example that makes me wonder if Windows is deliberately set-up in order to force users to buy new hardware and a whole new system every couple of years. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 21/7/12, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote: From: Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 21 July, 2012, 23:13 I've been running Ubuntu for three years. I'm quite proficient at using it. I've done a lot of reading about Linux and Ubuntu on line. I've read that you don't need to defrag the hard drive since Linux does not fragment a hard drive. Also that Linux doesn't use a registry, therefore it doesn't get corrupted like a registry in Windows does. That is why Linux doesn't slow down with time since nothing gets corrupted. But I'm not enough of a Linux expert to explain further details. Hopefully someone else can. On 07/21/2012 06:05 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: If there is no registry or temporary paging system within the OS then how does that work? It is a curiosity within itself :D On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:57 PM, Don C. Myers wrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Hi :) Errr, i think the paging file = pagefile.sys? Probably changed name in Vista and Win7. The pagefile.sys used to be the name of the Windows virtual memory. The registry is something completely different that MS kept trying to get rid of but couldn't in order to retain backwards compatibility with older programs that may need to be installed on newer systems. GnuLinux routinely throws out garbage once it has stopped being useful. Occasionally that means upgrading a few sub-packages in order to keep a few main programs working but then everything is OpenSource so it's reasonably easy for people to go in and do that without necessarily having to contact the organisation that owns the copyright. Often a few changes to one sub-package will fix it for all programs. Consequentaly GnuLinux has managed to retain greater backwards compatibility with both hardware and software as it works on smaller and lighter systems while Windows programs, drivers and other packages have often needed complete re-writes due to trivial issues. I really hope there hasn't been a post about security or antivirus in the last few days!! Lol Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 21/7/12, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com wrote: From: Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 21 July, 2012, 23:05 If there is no registry or temporary paging system within the OS then how does that work? It is a curiosity within itself :D On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:57 PM, Don C. Myers wrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
On 07/21/2012 07:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: CCleaner is not necessarily a registry cleaner ... it can do that; but it mainly is used to clean out the caches. And there are more than this one listed on this site - Gizmo's Freeware Utilities http://www.techsupportalert.com/. Igor at Dedoimedo.com had post (http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-cleaning.html) about the need for using cleaning tools in Linux. His opinion is their use is not as critical as similar tools are for Windows, in fact he believes they are not that valuable for many users. Many of these tools are available in various repositories so you do not need to look for them. Most browsers can be set to automatically clean their caches and limit how much information is stored. snip -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
If there is no registry or temporary paging system within the OS then how does that work? It is a curiosity within itself :D On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:57 PM, Don C. Myers wrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
I've been running Ubuntu for three years. I'm quite proficient at using it. I've done a lot of reading about Linux and Ubuntu on line. I've read that you don't need to defrag the hard drive since Linux does not fragment a hard drive. Also that Linux doesn't use a registry, therefore it doesn't get corrupted like a registry in Windows does. That is why Linux doesn't slow down with time since nothing gets corrupted. But I'm not enough of a Linux expert to explain further details. Hopefully someone else can. On 07/21/2012 06:05 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: If there is no registry or temporary paging system within the OS then how does that work? It is a curiosity within itself :D On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:57 PM, Don C. Myers wrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Well, when you uncover the solution, ... ... ... well, I'll be watching for a solution to this 'bug' whenever ;-) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
Have you checked out Gizmo's Freeware Utilitieshttp://www.techsupportalert.com/? this is a site with a wealth of programs for any computer ... all tested and all free :-) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.comwrote: In fact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
CCleaner is not necessarily a registry cleaner ... it can do that; but it mainly is used to clean out the caches. And there are more than this one listed on this site - Gizmo's Freeware Utilities http://www.techsupportalert.com/. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.comwrote: Hi, I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner. Don On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: In factyour workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a ccleaner equivalent for debian On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be. On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote: If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.au**wrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
On 07/20/2012 02:44 AM, Robert Mesibov wrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? My guess is that LO is trying to connect to something on the network. Try checking TOOLS OPTIONSLIBREOFFICEPATHS to see any are located on a remote machine. I can not replicate you r problem. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup
If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened to me a few times - my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches [CCleaner is good] - re-start the computer; when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again. One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might not be as good a program as it is ;-) Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these robotic eyes :-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote: I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze. The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then completes startup. This happens - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause and network requesting still happen) - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document through a file manager - with Java RE option on or off With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO document. The pause only occurs during startup. How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it opens without the 10-second pause? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
