Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
Hi :) Average walking speed for most people is generally considered to be around 4miles/hour so you are either very fit, or walking downhill a lot. It is important to eat properly and get plenty of exercise and not smoke but many people here are office workers. I cycle to work but then my work-place moved a lot nearer. On push-bike i can get up to around 20 miles/hour if the road is clear. It used to take me half hour to get to work but now takes around 10mins with most of that being stuck in traffic. Regards from Tom :) > > From: anne-ology >To: Tom >Cc: Felmon ; users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 3:02 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] > > Hey, you G-Men ... do you walk each morn' - > takes me about 30-45 minutes to walk about 5 miles, care to join >me ;-) > > > >On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > >Hi :) >> +1 >> about the body image. Women have travelled miles for just 1 sight of me. >> Unfortunately the direction is away from me not towards. >> >> "Reply to all" and then copy&paste? List manager? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ >> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ >> errr i don't know about GMane. >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> > >> > From: Felmon Davis >> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> >Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 9:21 >> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] >> > >> >On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote: >> > >> >> Hi :) >> >> >> >> I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists >> that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or >> GMane. So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. >> > >> >who's the list-manager again? >> > >> >> Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's >> replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrasments that i didn't >> notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. >> > >> >diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and torso. >> > >> >> This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's >> made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more >> typing mistakes now too. >> > >> >it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for >> every reply. >> > >> >> Regards from >> >> Tom :) >> > >> >apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some >> reason). >> > >> >I wish I could wean myself of gmail. >> > >> >F. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> From: Brian Barker >> >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 >> >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf >> import] >> >>> >> >>> At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: >> >>>> I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch >> this on? >> >>> >> >>> Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail >> provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies >> distributed to you of your own messages to the list. >> >>> >> >>> Google says: >> >>>> When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, >> Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you >> time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone >> responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd >> like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. >> >>> >> >>> It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. >> >>> >> >>> I trust this helps. >> >>> >> >>> Brian Barker >> >>> >> > >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
Hey, you G-Men ... do you walk each morn' - takes me about 30-45 minutes to walk about 5 miles, care to join me ;-) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) > +1 > about the body image. Women have travelled miles for just 1 sight of me. > Unfortunately the direction is away from me not towards. > > "Reply to all" and then copy&paste? List manager? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ > errr i don't know about GMane. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > > From: Felmon Davis > >To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 9:21 > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] > > > >On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote: > > > >> Hi :) > >> > >> I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists > that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or > GMane. So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. > > > >who's the list-manager again? > > > >> Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's > replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrasments that i didn't > notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. > > > >diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and torso. > > > >> This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's > made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more > typing mistakes now too. > > > >it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for > every reply. > > > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > > > >apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some > reason). > > > >I wish I could wean myself of gmail. > > > >F. > > > >> > >> > >>> > >>> From: Brian Barker > >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 > >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf > import] > >>> > >>> At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: > >>>> I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch > this on? > >>> > >>> Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail > provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies > distributed to you of your own messages to the list. > >>> > >>> Google says: > >>>> When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, > Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you > time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone > responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd > like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. > >>> > >>> It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. > >>> > >>> I trust this helps. > >>> > >>> Brian Barker > >>> > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
If this is a poll, I like this feature in g-mail - and others; for those who wish to see all, use the 'all mail' rather than the 'inbox' ;-) If this is a poll, I still detest this list's reply feature ... having to doctor the e-addresses is time-consuming & frustrating; and causes errors. The Pole went to the poll only to find a pole; so he set out to polish his Polish furniture ... ;-) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) >> >> I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists that >> sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or GMane. >> So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. >> > > who's the list-manager again? > > > Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's >> replies and notice all the horrible typos and embarrassments that i didn't >> notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. >> > > diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and torso. > > > This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's >> made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more >> typing mistakes now too. >> > > it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for > every reply. > > Regards from >> Tom :) >> > > apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some > reason). > > I wish I could wean myself of gmail. > > F. > > > >> >> >>> From: Brian Barker >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf >>> import] >>> >>> At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: >>> >>>> I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this >>>> on? >>>> >>> >>> Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail >>> provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies >>> distributed to you of your own messages to the list. >>> >>> Google says: >>> >>>> When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail >>>> automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time >>>> and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone >>>> responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd >>>> like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. >>>> >>> >>> It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. >>> >>> I trust this helps. >>> >>> Brian Barker >>> >>> -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
At 09:00 05/12/2012 +, Tom Davies wrote: At 03:03 05/12/2012 +, Brian Barker wrote: At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on? Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies distributed to you of your own messages to the list. Google says: When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or GMane. Then you think wrongly - unless you explicitly subscribe to the "nomail" version of the list (and that is no default; indeed, it is not even mentioned at the web site). So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. I fear it is. Personally I think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrassments that I didn't notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. This makes no sense. If (as would be sensible) you are concerned to be aware of the appearance of your own messages as distributed by the list, you would deprecate Gmail's practice, not applaud it. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
Hi :) +1 about the body image. Women have travelled miles for just 1 sight of me. Unfortunately the direction is away from me not towards. "Reply to all" and then copy&paste? List manager? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ errr i don't know about GMane. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Felmon Davis >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 9:21 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] > >On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) >> >> I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists that >> sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or GMane. So, >> it's not just GMail that is blocking him. > >who's the list-manager again? > >> Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's >> replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrasments that i didn't >> notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. > >diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and torso. > >> This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's made >> it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more typing >> mistakes now too. > >it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for every >reply. > >> Regards from >> Tom :) > >apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some >reason). > >I wish I could wean myself of gmail. > >F. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Brian Barker >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] >>> >>> At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: >>>> I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on? >>> >>> Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail provider >>> Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies distributed >>> to you of your own messages to the list. >>> >>> Google says: >>>> When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail >>>> automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time >>>> and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone >>>> responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd >>>> like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. >>> >>> It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. >>> >>> I trust this helps. >>> >>> Brian Barker >>> >>> >>> -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >-- Felmon Davis > >When all else fails, lower your standards. >-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or GMane. So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. who's the list-manager again? Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrasments that i didn't notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and torso. This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more typing mistakes now too. it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for every reply. Regards from Tom :) apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some reason). I wish I could wean myself of gmail. F. From: Brian Barker To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on? Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies distributed to you of your own messages to the list. Google says: When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Felmon Davis When all else fails, lower your standards. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
Hi :) I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or GMane. So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him. Personally i think it's a huge benefit. I see my own posts in people's replies and notice all the horrible tpyos and embarrasments that i didn't notice while typing. So, i am quite glad of it. This crazy need for "Reply to" or whatever is a different story. It's made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot more typing mistakes now too. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Brian Barker >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 3:03 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import] > >At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: >> I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on? > >Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail provider >Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies distributed to >you of your own messages to the list. > >Google says: >> When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail >> automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and >> prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds >> to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view >> your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. > >It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. > >I trust this helps. > >Brian Barker > > >-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf import]
At 15:19 04/12/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on? Your problem is not with the LibreOffice list, but with your mail provider Gmail - which has a bug^H^H^H feature which suppresses copies distributed to you of your own messages to the list. Google says: When you send mail to any group or mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail. It can be argued that this practice is unhelpful. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
