Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Hi Sina. When opening your thesis I see the numbers in Arabic numerals (the 0-9 digits common to Westerners), not in Hindu numerals (the digits commonly seen in Arabic, Persian, and Urdu). This is probably due to my locale settings. Note that I could reproduce your issue both in the document that you linked to and in original Hebrew documents. I attribute the problem to the fact that the period . is a non-directional character, so the whole 4.2.1 block is treated as LTR. See here for an explanation: http://dotancohen.com/howto/rtl_right_to_left.html The way to 'force' RTL display of subsections is to put an invisible RTL character after each number. You can get the character at the bottom of the page linked to above, it is called RLM. Another 'fix' would be if there were to exist an RTL period ., however I am unaware of the existence of such a character. Note that the RLM character actually appears on the Lyx Hebrew keyboard (shift-ט). I do not know if it appears on the Persian keyboard. Considering the above, this is not a LibreOffice bug. However, I will add my comments about how to work with this issue in LibreOffice. I am interested in how MS Office handles this corner case. You can always CC me RTL-related issues. I maintain gibberish.co.il and I'm quite versed in RTL issues. I can read Arabic letters, so I can read Persian, but I do not know the meaning of the sounds that I am reading. Best of luck on your thesis. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Now that I've read the bug I see that you've already discovered the RLM character. I have nothingto add to your assessment, other than the fact that I fully support the notion that it should be fixed! Thanks, Sina. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Hi :) +1 I can't really vote on this and this isn't really a voting list anyway but if i could vote i would give it +1 Regards from Tom :) From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com To: Sina Momken digi...@gmail.com Cc: LibreOffice. users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 14:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer? Now that I've read the bug I see that you've already discovered the RLM character. I have nothingto add to your assessment, other than the fact that I fully support the notion that it should be fixed! Thanks, Sina. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Hello Regina, Thank you very much for your clear answer. Your answers are always the best especially when no one else can help. I made a bug (enhancement request) at Bugzilla of LibreOffice: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67986 I hope some developer can solve this old bug. Best, Sina On 08/09/2013 08:35 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Sina, Sina Momken schrieb: Let me make long story, short: I want to know is there any method to make numbering of sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 shown as ۳-۱- instead of ۳.۱- in file below??? http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Waiting for any response, Sina Momken Short answer: No, it is not possible. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=98190 You should make an enhancement request for LibreOffice with link to the old OpenOffice.org issue. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
I'm still awaiting for any response to my question. If anyone know any suggestion about the question below, please help me. Regards, Sina Momken On 08/07/2013 03:23 AM, Sina Momken wrote: Hello I've recently found another incompatibility between LO Writer and MS Word again. As you may know I'm working on my thesis and I have to obey rules of my university template which is also provided as a .doc or .tex file. The template is originally in Farsi as an RTL language. When you open the template in MS Word, Outline Numberings are shown in Right to Left order. For example sub-chapter (section) 1 of chapter 3 is represented as ۳-۱- (with right to left order) in MS Office and LaTeX templates. But when I import that template in LO Writer, regardless of direction of the paragraph, sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 is always shown as ۳.۱- which is still in left to right format. You can practically see this wrong numbering direction in Chapter 3 of file below which is a partially translated version of my university template: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc The chapter 3 is not translated and you can see that by changing direction of paragraph of ۳.۱- to LTR, it only changes to 3.1-, both of them in left to right direction Generally speaking numbers (like ۱.۹۹ = 1.99) in Farsi are from left to right and characters are from right to left, but for Outline Numberings (i.e. Numbering of Headings) most books and publications use the right to left direction as in characters and not as in simple numbers. But it seems that LO Writer represents Outline Numberings like simpler numbers from left to right. I want to know is there any method to show numbering of headings (Tools-Outline_Numbering) in right to left direction? (e.g. sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 as ۳-۱- instead of ۳.۱-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Let me make long story, short: I want to know is there any method to make numbering of sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 shown as ۳-۱- instead of ۳.۱- in file below??? http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Waiting for any response, Sina Momken On 08/09/2013 05:50 PM, Sina Momken wrote: I'm still awaiting for any response to my question. If anyone know any suggestion about the question below, please help me. Regards, Sina Momken On 08/07/2013 03:23 AM, Sina Momken wrote: Hello I've recently found another incompatibility between LO Writer and MS Word again. As you may know I'm working on my thesis and I have to obey rules of my university template which is also provided as a .doc or .tex file. The template is originally in Farsi as an RTL language. When you open the template in MS Word, Outline Numberings are shown in Right to Left order. For example sub-chapter (section) 1 of chapter 3 is represented as ۳-۱- (with right to left order) in MS Office and LaTeX templates. But when I import that template in LO Writer, regardless of direction of the paragraph, sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 is always shown as ۳.۱- which is still in left to right format. You can practically see this wrong numbering direction in Chapter 3 of file below which is a partially translated version of my university template: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc The chapter 3 is not translated and you can see that by changing direction of paragraph of ۳.۱- to LTR, it only changes to 3.1-, both of them in left to right direction Generally speaking numbers (like ۱.۹۹ = 1.99) in Farsi are from left to right and characters are from right to left, but for Outline Numberings (i.e. Numbering of Headings) most books and publications use the right to left direction as in characters and not as in simple numbers. But it seems that LO Writer represents Outline Numberings like simpler numbers from left to right. I want to know is there any method to show numbering of headings (Tools-Outline_Numbering) in right to left direction? (e.g. sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 as ۳-۱- instead of ۳.۱-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to change direction of Outline Numbering to RTL in LO Writer?
Hi Sina, Sina Momken schrieb: Let me make long story, short: I want to know is there any method to make numbering of sub-chapter 1 of chapter 3 shown as ۳-۱- instead of ۳.۱- in file below??? http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Waiting for any response, Sina Momken Short answer: No, it is not possible. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=98190 You should make an enhancement request for LibreOffice with link to the old OpenOffice.org issue. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
