[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On 07/28/2014 05:20 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU. Charles. Pseudonyms aren't evil have been discussed ad nauseam previously... (NoOp / Gary Lee) Might I suggest reviewing: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette too bad that when this was discussed over on the discuss list, that this part of the Mozilla Posting Guidelines wasn't included (it was suggested): https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html Be civil. No personal attacks. Do not feel compelled to defend your honor in public. Posts containing personal attacks may be removed from the news server. Regarding LO - the acronym has been in the wild for quite some time: http://download.cnet.com/LibreOffice/3000-18483_4-75337651.html Editors' review by: Amy Watson on August 09, 2011 Summary After Apache OpenOffice (AOO) was crashing almost constantly I began searching for a new free office suite. Once I started using LibreOffice (LO) crashes were a thing of the past. LO is more stable than AOO and saves projects to Microsoft formats better than AOO. LO uses the odf format as native but will handle a multitude of other formats. If you have an older MS Office document that MS Office will no longer open you will find LO will probably open it fine. Power users will need to install JRE. The vast majority of people will not need JRE. http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2013/06/new-books-libreoffice-4-0-writer-guide-lo-3-6-base-handbook/ (New books: LibreOffice 4.0 Writer Guide LO 3.6 Base Handbook) https://www.google.com/#q=libreoffice+++%22LO%22start=10 etc., etc. Might I suggest reviewing: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette Too bad that this part of the referenced Mozilla Posting Guidelines wasn't included (it was suggested): https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html Be civil. No personal attacks. Do not feel compelled to defend your honor in public. Posts containing personal attacks may be removed from the news server. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU. Charles. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU. Charles. gentlemen, I suggest this discussion be taken off-list where you can pursue it much more effectively. F. -- Felmon Davis QOTD: How can I miss you if you won't go away? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On 07/28/2014 09:41 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU. Charles. gentlemen, I suggest this discussion be taken off-list where you can pursue it much more effectively. F. Could this be moved to the discuss list? I would like to see where this is going, but not on the user list. Tim L. [a good number of you know my real name instead of my different pseudo emails I use for different lists, here and out on the net.] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
Hello Tim, everyone, Le 28.07.2014 16:09, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : On 07/28/2014 09:41 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU. Charles. gentlemen, I suggest this discussion be taken off-list where you can pursue it much more effectively. F. Could this be moved to the discuss list? I would like to see where this is going, but not on the user list. I do not think that we need to have this moved to the discuss list; there was a perfectly normal and courteous thread that was interrupted by the person using the pseudo Urmas who started to insult me, as he/she has done repeatedly against many people here. I am happy to see the courteous side of this thread continue, if needed, here. As for myself, I'm done with this topic. Best, Charles. Tim L. [a good number of you know my real name instead of my different pseudo emails I use for different lists, here and out on the net.] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
A lout known as Charles-H. Schulz: As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; And yet it was not until 4.3, not yet released BTW your suit got support for paragraphs longer than 64k or tagging the text with a language. and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? _You_'ve got 90% of your office suit for free from StarDivision (with German comments included), and it is _you_ who cannot develop it properly. What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? It is you who are insulting people. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:33:24 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: A lout known as Charles-H. Schulz: making note of this... What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? It is you who are insulting people. So what, your defense is essentially Nu-uh, you did first! ? :D -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:33:24 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: A lout known as Charles-H. Schulz: As for the feature parity with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 1.0; And yet it was not until 4.3, not yet released BTW your suit got support for paragraphs longer than 64k or tagging the text with a language. and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? _You_'ve got 90% of your office suit for free from StarDivision (with German comments included), and it is _you_ who cannot develop it properly. What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? It is you who are insulting people. Urmaswhy do you not just go back to the M$ Corp lists and stay there Eh! Pete -- Please note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On Mon, 2014-07-28 at 21:33 +0700, Urmas wrote: What pleasure do you take out of insulting people? It is you who are insulting people. Please, please - lets calm down =) Charles is right - it makes sense to have a consistent, findable brand: LibreOffice emphasized - it is good to have a gentle reminder from time to time that it is good to do that rather than using 'LO' =) Of course, it's not the world's most burning issue - I guess that is Urmas' point: there are plenty of other priorities; and of course there is still a lot to do to improve LibreOffice left/right. I don't know anyone who is satisfied with where we are. I see room for improvement everywhere left/right. Then again to become overly obsessed by our flaws is also unbalanced =) Quite apart from all that it'd be helpful to be reasonably pleasant to other people who disagree with us [ working on that myself ;-]. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@collabora.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:54:14 +0200 Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:33:24 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: A lout known as Charles-H. Schulz: making note of this... [snip] Best thing you can do, IMO, is what I did after somebody recently chided me for attempting to engage the troll in debate: His missives go straight to /dev/null. Unless somebody quotes him... Fixed. Now those, too, will go straight to /dev/null. (Including, if I did it right, this one...) Life's too short to waste it on his kind. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
Charles-H. Schulz: On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym. Cheers. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name
Charles-H. Schulz wrote On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Acronyms / nicknames / shortcuts are rarely at the discretion of the one being named. If the O in LibreOffice had been lowercase, then there /may/ have been a chance to prevent this, but that is long past now. People will shorten it as they can e.g., LO, LibO, LibreO, LOffice, etc. Charles-H. Schulz wrote Now you will tell me that it is easier to type LO than it is with LibreOffice. Perhaps. But everyone here writes MS Office... OOo for OpenOffice.org, AOO for Apache OpenOffice, LO for LibreOffice, MSO for Microsoft Office are all acronyms I use, here on the mailing lists, at the AskLO site, and at the original support forum. Even the source code is filled with lo and LO (e.g., LO4Android) for the same reason. I am not meaning to be antagonistic by stating this, I am just presenting facts. What you are asking is akin to suggesting people refrain from using MS for Microsoft or FB for Facebook. The chance of success would seem improbably low. Best wishes, Owen. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Nitpicking-on-a-name-tp4116654p4116673.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
