Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
Hi, there. I have known some friends who preffered OOo Impress instead of MS Powerpoint just becasue of this issue. Receiving quite number of nonsense slide shows in daily basis is annoying by itself. Previous versions of Impress was giving the opportunity for a faster look just in Thunderbird without any further clicks or actions. I think that this functionality should be kept in a way. I understand the neeed for compatibility and the reason for targeting MS Powerpoint users but still can't we reach a better solution? For instance Impress can start with the slide show mode but a magic key can stop it and show the design view (may or may not be editing mode). Can't we satisfy all group of users? Regards, *Cevad OZTUG* ** On 20/04/11 08:01, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote: On 2011-04-19 04:02, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 19/04/11 08:14, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera a écrit : Hi Osvaldo, But why? this makes no sense. Why does the application run in a different mode, according to file filename? Isn't there a workaround or something for this? The workaround is to rename the extension of your file to *.ppt and make it writable if it is currently on a read only mount/share. A DVD can't be made read-write for renaming, nor read-only shares that contain backup. If it's RO, it's for a reason :-P :-) I believe this bug was not present in OO; at least not the last version I used. Any ideas on when this will be fixed? The automatic slideshow execution of PPS files was a long time request for many MSOffice users who switched to OOo and then found that their slideshow presentations didn't start up automatically in slideshow mode. The PPS extension is just that - a slideshow. The PPT extension is the Powerpoint editable file. I doubt that this recently integrated feature in LibO is going to be withdrawn any time soon. So LO is actually targeted towards former MS Office, rather that ex-OO users. I don't think that fair on the OO userbase that never used MS Office. Alex A context menu to normal view or non-presentation view would be a great fix. Or a ~/config/libreoffice config file where one could disable the behaviour would be great to. It seems unfair that LO is better acomodated to former MS-office-users, instead of OO-users. It's like trying to absorb that userbase, without caring for the OO userbase. I don't want to actually EDIT the file. I just want that view then in non-presetation view because I hate animations that take more time than it takes me to read. Restricting funcionallity from a software acording to what some author chose when distributing is a form of DRM, even if it's really crappy and easily workaroundable. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
From: Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 6:01:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode On 2011-04-19 04:02, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 19/04/11 08:14, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera a écrit : Hi Osvaldo, But why? this makes no sense. Why does the application run in a different mode, according to file filename? Isn't there a workaround or something for this? The workaround is to rename the extension of your file to *.ppt and make it writable if it is currently on a read only mount/share. A DVD can't be made read-write for renaming, nor read-only shares that contain backup. If it's RO, it's for a reason :-P :-) I believe this bug was not present in OO; at least not the last version I used. Any ideas on when this will be fixed? The automatic slideshow execution of PPS files was a long time request for many MSOffice users who switched to OOo and then found that their slideshow presentations didn't start up automatically in slideshow mode. The PPS extension is just that - a slideshow. The PPT extension is the Powerpoint editable file. I doubt that this recently integrated feature in LibO is going to be withdrawn any time soon. So LO is actually targeted towards former MS Office, rather that ex-OO users. I don't think that fair on the OO userbase that never used MS Office. Alex A context menu to normal view or non-presentation view would be a great fix. Or a ~/config/libreoffice config file where one could disable the behaviour would be great to. It seems unfair that LO is better acomodated to former MS-office-users, instead of OO-users. It's like trying to absorb that userbase, without caring for the OO userbase. I don't want to actually EDIT the file. I just want that view then in non-presetation view because I hate animations that take more time than it takes me to read. Restricting funcionallity from a software acording to what some author chose when distributing is a form of DRM, even if it's really crappy and easily workaroundable. Hugo Osvaldo Barrera Hi :) If this were changed then how would slide-shows be shown as slide-shows? Lets say i get called into a meeting and have to display management accounts. Could i be confident in the slide-show starting or would i have to worry that it might open in design-view? Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
On 2011-04-20 05:15, Tom Davies wrote: From: Hugo Osvaldo Barrerah...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 6:01:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode On 2011-04-19 04:02, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 19/04/11 08:14, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera a écrit : Hi Osvaldo, But why? this makes no sense. Why does the application run in a different mode, according to file filename? Isn't there a workaround or something for this? The workaround is to rename the extension of your file to *.ppt and make it writable if it is currently on a read only mount/share. A DVD can't be made read-write for renaming, nor read-only shares that contain backup. If it's RO, it's for a reason :-P :-) I believe this bug was not present in OO; at least not the last version I used. Any ideas on when this will be fixed? The automatic slideshow execution of PPS files was a long time request for many MSOffice users who switched to OOo and then found that their slideshow presentations didn't start up automatically in slideshow mode. The PPS extension is just that - a slideshow. The PPT extension is the Powerpoint editable file. I doubt that this recently integrated feature in LibO is going to be withdrawn any time soon. So LO is actually targeted towards former MS Office, rather that ex-OO users. I don't think that fair on the OO userbase that never used MS Office. Alex A context menu to normal view or non-presentation view would be a great fix. Or a ~/config/libreoffice config file where one could disable the behaviour would be great to. It seems unfair that LO is better acomodated to former MS-office-users, instead of OO-users. It's like trying to absorb that userbase, without caring for the OO userbase. I don't want to actually EDIT the file. I just want that view then in non-presetation view because I hate animations that take more time than it takes me to read. Restricting funcionallity from a software acording to what some author chose when distributing is a form of DRM, even if it's really crappy and easily workaroundable. Hugo Osvaldo Barrera Hi :) If this were changed then how would slide-shows be shown as slide-shows? Lets say i get called into a meeting and have to display management accounts. Could i be confident in the slide-show starting or would i have to worry that it might open in design-view? Regards from Tom :) 1) As I said, add a setting, I don't really care if the new behaviour is the default, as long as people who want to change it *can* change it. I don't mind configuring stuff to my linking. I do dislike a change in behaviour to attract a new user base, and not even a checkbox to revert to the original one. 2) Your presentation depends on the fact that your users don't see your impress' design view? Are you serious? How did you survive all these years, when the design view was the default behaviour? This simply sound shallow. Mind you: I don't crying revert this back, I'm saying, respect your previous userbase, and allow them to retain the behaviour OO had, with which we were so confortable. A simple checkbox in preferences will do really :-) Now, every time I get an e-mail with a PPS, I need to save a file to disk, navigate to it, rename it, and open it. Browsing through a dozen files in a DVD or RO share is insufferable. -- Hugo Osvaldo Barrera -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
Le 19/04/11 08:14, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera a écrit : Hi Osvaldo, But why? this makes no sense. Why does the application run in a different mode, according to file filename? Isn't there a workaround or something for this? The workaround is to rename the extension of your file to *.ppt and make it writable if it is currently on a read only mount/share. I believe this bug was not present in OO; at least not the last version I used. Any ideas on when this will be fixed? The automatic slideshow execution of PPS files was a long time request for many MSOffice users who switched to OOo and then found that their slideshow presentations didn't start up automatically in slideshow mode. The PPS extension is just that - a slideshow. The PPT extension is the Powerpoint editable file. I doubt that this recently integrated feature in LibO is going to be withdrawn any time soon. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
Double clicking a PPS opens the file in slideshow as expected. The problem is that starting Impress and then opening a PPS file should open it in Edit mode (as PowerPoint does). Instead it opens it in slideshow mode and closes Impress on ESC. This is indeed a bug which makes it impossible to edit a PPS file (without using the rename hack which is not a solution ;) ) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Opening-a-PPS-file-in-not-presentation-mode-tp2833269p2838333.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode
On 2011-04-19 04:02, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 19/04/11 08:14, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera a écrit : Hi Osvaldo, But why? this makes no sense. Why does the application run in a different mode, according to file filename? Isn't there a workaround or something for this? The workaround is to rename the extension of your file to *.ppt and make it writable if it is currently on a read only mount/share. A DVD can't be made read-write for renaming, nor read-only shares that contain backup. If it's RO, it's for a reason :-P :-) I believe this bug was not present in OO; at least not the last version I used. Any ideas on when this will be fixed? The automatic slideshow execution of PPS files was a long time request for many MSOffice users who switched to OOo and then found that their slideshow presentations didn't start up automatically in slideshow mode. The PPS extension is just that - a slideshow. The PPT extension is the Powerpoint editable file. I doubt that this recently integrated feature in LibO is going to be withdrawn any time soon. So LO is actually targeted towards former MS Office, rather that ex-OO users. I don't think that fair on the OO userbase that never used MS Office. Alex A context menu to normal view or non-presentation view would be a great fix. Or a ~/config/libreoffice config file where one could disable the behaviour would be great to. It seems unfair that LO is better acomodated to former MS-office-users, instead of OO-users. It's like trying to absorb that userbase, without caring for the OO userbase. I don't want to actually EDIT the file. I just want that view then in non-presetation view because I hate animations that take more time than it takes me to read. Restricting funcionallity from a software acording to what some author chose when distributing is a form of DRM, even if it's really crappy and easily workaroundable. -- Hugo Osvaldo Barrera -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
