RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I agree, seeing if there is something to repair in the manifest is definitely 
worth trying.

 - Dennis

PS: I decline your invitation to bottom post.

-Original Message-
From: NoOp [mailto:gl...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 17:49
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

On 08/06/2011 05:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 How is being able to access the encrypted Zip streams in a Hex editor
 going to help Bob?
 
 All of the extracted files (except the mimetype) are encryptions of
 the original compressed files.  They are shown as extracted because
 the ciphertext is not itself compressed.  The plaintext is.  The
 META-INF/manifest.xml is not encrypted, so it can be read
 decompressed.
 
 It seems clear that there is nothing wrong with the Zip itself.
 
 So what bits do you propose to fiddle?
 
 - Dennis

Please bottom post  please do not cc me as I read the msgs on the list;
I don't really need extra copies :-)

Regarding your question: the files et al in the links regarding OOo also
extract properly - see:
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88946#c4
and that attachment. The problem with that (and supposedly the files in
the forum posts) file is in the manifest.xml itselft. It extracts just
fine for me. However the file is corrupt  I was able to repair and use
the password supplied by the author to open the file.

My point is that it is possible that Bob _may_ have the same issue; he
won't know until he checks. I suppose at this point that anything *is*
worth checking/trying...
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-06 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I;ve just joined this list in hopes of solving my password problem on one 
 dpcument.
 
 First of all I am running openSUSE 11.3, KDE3.5, and LibreOffice 3.3.1
 This is going to be a problem for an expert in LibreOffice.
 
 I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it, 
 edit 
 it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few days ago 
 I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim. The other 
 night I tried to open it again and the password failed. Yes, I entered it 
 correctly, several times.  The same password works on other documents. 
 Somehow the password changed or was corrupted for this particular document.
 
 Is there a config file somewhere that I can edit and fix the problem?
 
 Bob S
 

Because LO is based on OOo code, I did:
http://www.google.com/webhp?q=openoffice+%2Bpassword+corrupt
and came up with these:
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88946
[.ods file corrupted, won't accept password after repair]
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9t=10401start=0
[[Solved] Recover a corrupt ods file protected with password]

Those might be of help. I didn't bother to look at any of the other
possible links.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-06 Thread NoOp
On 08/06/2011 02:40 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
 On Friday 05 August 2011 00:37:47 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 
 ..lots of snipping so we can focus..
 
 Dennis. so, following your advice:
 
 One thing you can do with the file that fails is try to open it with a Zip
 utility and run a test on it.  If the Zip tests all right, it means the
 corruption occurred during encryption, not later, during writing.  If the
 Zip indicates any part of the document is corrupted, you might see if a Zip
 repair utility can help.

 OK, I opened the file as a zip. Here is what I got:
 
 Archive:  Experience.zip
  extracting: mimetype
  extracting: content.xml
  extracting: layout-cache
  extracting: manifest.rdf
  extracting: styles.xml
  extracting: meta.xml
  extracting: Configurations2/accelerator/current.xml
creating: Configurations2/progressbar/
creating: Configurations2/floater/
creating: Configurations2/popupmenu/
creating: Configurations2/toolpanel/
creating: Configurations2/menubar/
creating: Configurations2/toolbar/
creating: Configurations2/images/Bitmaps/
creating: Configurations2/statusbar/
  extracting: settings.xml
   inflating: META-INF/manifest.xml
...

Did you look at the links that I provided to you? Make a copy of the
file  then try doing the edits with a hexeditor (Gvim or similar).
If you don't know how to do that, send me a copy of the file  I'll do
it for you.





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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
How is being able to access the encrypted Zip streams in a Hex editor going to 
help Bob?

All of the extracted files (except the mimetype) are encryptions of the 
original compressed files.  They are shown as extracted because the ciphertext 
is not itself compressed.  The plaintext is.  The META-INF/manifest.xml is not 
encrypted, so it can be read decompressed.

It seems clear that there is nothing wrong with the Zip itself.

So what bits do you propose to fiddle?

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: NoOp [mailto:gl...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 16:56
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

On 08/06/2011 02:40 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
 On Friday 05 August 2011 00:37:47 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 
 ..lots of snipping so we can focus..
 
 Dennis. so, following your advice:
 
 One thing you can do with the file that fails is try to open it with a Zip
 utility and run a test on it.  If the Zip tests all right, it means the
 corruption occurred during encryption, not later, during writing.  If the
 Zip indicates any part of the document is corrupted, you might see if a Zip
 repair utility can help.

 OK, I opened the file as a zip. Here is what I got:
 
 Archive:  Experience.zip
  extracting: mimetype
  extracting: content.xml
  extracting: layout-cache
  extracting: manifest.rdf
  extracting: styles.xml
  extracting: meta.xml
  extracting: Configurations2/accelerator/current.xml
creating: Configurations2/progressbar/
creating: Configurations2/floater/
creating: Configurations2/popupmenu/
creating: Configurations2/toolpanel/
creating: Configurations2/menubar/
creating: Configurations2/toolbar/
creating: Configurations2/images/Bitmaps/
creating: Configurations2/statusbar/
  extracting: settings.xml
   inflating: META-INF/manifest.xml
...

Did you look at the links that I provided to you? Make a copy of the
file  then try doing the edits with a hexeditor (Gvim or similar).
If you don't know how to do that, send me a copy of the file  I'll do
it for you.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-06 Thread NoOp
On 08/06/2011 05:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 How is being able to access the encrypted Zip streams in a Hex editor
 going to help Bob?
 
 All of the extracted files (except the mimetype) are encryptions of
 the original compressed files.  They are shown as extracted because
 the ciphertext is not itself compressed.  The plaintext is.  The
 META-INF/manifest.xml is not encrypted, so it can be read
 decompressed.
 
 It seems clear that there is nothing wrong with the Zip itself.
 
 So what bits do you propose to fiddle?
 
 - Dennis

Please bottom post  please do not cc me as I read the msgs on the list;
I don't really need extra copies :-)

Regarding your question: the files et al in the links regarding OOo also
extract properly - see:
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88946#c4
and that attachment. The problem with that (and supposedly the files in
the forum posts) file is in the manifest.xml itselft. It extracts just
fine for me. However the file is corrupt  I was able to repair and use
the password supplied by the author to open the file.

My point is that it is possible that Bob _may_ have the same issue; he
won't know until he checks. I suppose at this point that anything *is*
worth checking/trying...
...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: password problem

2011-08-06 Thread Bob Stia
On Saturday 06 August 2011 19:55:50 NoOp wrote:
 On 08/06/2011 02:40 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
  On Friday 05 August 2011 00:37:47 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 
  ..lots of snipping so we can focus..
 
  Dennis. so, following your advice:
  One thing you can do with the file that fails is try to open it with a
  Zip utility and run a test on it.  If the Zip tests all right, it means
  the corruption occurred during encryption, not later, during writing. 
  If the Zip indicates any part of the document is corrupted, you might
  see if a Zip repair utility can help.
 
  OK, I opened the file as a zip. Here is what I got:
 
  Archive:  Experience.zip
   extracting: mimetype
   extracting: content.xml
   extracting: layout-cache
   extracting: manifest.rdf
   extracting: styles.xml
   extracting: meta.xml
   extracting: Configurations2/accelerator/current.xml
 creating: Configurations2/progressbar/
 creating: Configurations2/floater/
 creating: Configurations2/popupmenu/
 creating: Configurations2/toolpanel/
 creating: Configurations2/menubar/
 creating: Configurations2/toolbar/
 creating: Configurations2/images/Bitmaps/
 creating: Configurations2/statusbar/
   extracting: settings.xml
inflating: META-INF/manifest.xml

 ...

 Did you look at the links that I provided to you? Make a copy of the
 file  then try doing the edits with a hexeditor (Gvim or similar).
 If you don't know how to do that, send me a copy of the file  I'll do
 it for you.

Hello NoOp, thanks for the reply

Yes, I went to those URLs and read them over several times. I had difficulty 
unerstanding what was beng done and wasn't sure if the circumstaances were 
the same as mine. I guess I need to analyze them carefully. 

My file is an .odt (simply  text) There are no Samba, no server etc. I don't 
understand when it is said a double manfest I have a. manifest.rdf alone 
and a manifest.xml inside the folder  META-INF.  I couldn't figure out which 
file to open in the hex-editor or what to delete. I need a little gidcance 
here.

Unfortunately I cannot send you the file as I explained to Dennis. It contains 
very sensetive information.   I do appreciate the offer though, as I do 
Dennis'es.

Once that editing is done, how is it incorporated back into the original .odt 
file?  Please have patience with me on this. You are correct, as you stated 
to Dennis. what do I have to lose? Try what might work. I hope that you hav 
the answer/fix for this.

Thanks again. Bob S





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