Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Tim-L]

I just checked. I have my auto-save set for 10 minutes.

I know that when I are hard at work doing long documents from notes, or 
outline, I tend to set it for 5 minutes since a lot of the document is 
"off the cuff" from a small amount of text in cryptic notes and/or 
outline of the document.  It is easier, I find with a lower auto save time.


Believe me, it came in handy for several documents on a desktop when we 
lost power - car hit electric pole or such - and I would have lost a lot 
of work.  Now I do that stuff on a laptop, but I still want the auto save.


On 02/23/2018 12:21 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Yeh, 10mins is waaay too often for me.  I think psychologists ht suggest
20-40mins but i would go for around an hour.
Regards from
a Tom :)

On 23 February 2018 at 17:14, zahra a  wrote:


hi.
for changing autoSave:
open tools, options, load-save, general and active or deactivate
Save AutoRecovery information every:
newer versions of libreoffice by default, save the informations every
ten minutes and you can change the number of saving.

On 2/23/18, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
If you do try turning the auto-save off then you really need to get into
the habit of doing your own saves quite frequently.

I tend to find that creating a document originally takes me a fair while
but if i lose it then it takes me a LOT less time 2nd time around.  When
first trying to write something down i wrestle with all sorts of

decisions

about grammar, layout, formatting and how to express my thoughts.  If i
lose even a significant chunk of work i can usually re-create it very
quickly 2nd time around because i tend to find those decisions are still
lurking around somewhere so i can just get on with the typing.

Regards from
a Tom :)




On 18 February 2018 at 03:04, Steve Edmonds 
wrote:


It is an interesting discussion.
A while back auto-save was losing my images from the document, now that
seems well and fixed.
I have a UPS with 15 mins. or more reserve to give me plenty of time to
save when the beeping starts, and LO seems so stable now, my multiple
documents can sit open for a week or more and I cannot remember the last
crash/hangup. I almost wonder if I can turn auto-save off.
steve


On 18/02/18 07:29, Girvin Herr wrote:


My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start
typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I

don't

notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to evaluate

what

keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the keystrokes that got
ignored. I still find the autosave benefits outweigh these

aggravations,

though, so I have it enabled all the time.

Girvin Herr



On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
+1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!

The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I
don't
like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs

to

do
something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and

then

just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule
rather
than on the machine's.

Regards from
a Tom :)


On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook" 

wrote:

On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a
right-click
either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has

something.

Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with
multiple
selected files.

I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put

them
on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all
seems a
bit extreme.


It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat

about

its inability to do so.

You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save

feature.  Such options used to be in;
Tools - Options - ...
or something like that and prolly still are.


Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document,

however

depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yeh, 10mins is waaay too often for me.  I think psychologists ht suggest
20-40mins but i would go for around an hour.
Regards from
a Tom :)

On 23 February 2018 at 17:14, zahra a  wrote:

> hi.
> for changing autoSave:
> open tools, options, load-save, general and active or deactivate
> Save AutoRecovery information every:
> newer versions of libreoffice by default, save the informations every
> ten minutes and you can change the number of saving.
>
> On 2/23/18, Tom Davies  wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > If you do try turning the auto-save off then you really need to get into
> > the habit of doing your own saves quite frequently.
> >
> > I tend to find that creating a document originally takes me a fair while
> > but if i lose it then it takes me a LOT less time 2nd time around.  When
> > first trying to write something down i wrestle with all sorts of
> decisions
> > about grammar, layout, formatting and how to express my thoughts.  If i
> > lose even a significant chunk of work i can usually re-create it very
> > quickly 2nd time around because i tend to find those decisions are still
> > lurking around somewhere so i can just get on with the typing.
> >
> > Regards from
> > a Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 February 2018 at 03:04, Steve Edmonds 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is an interesting discussion.
> >> A while back auto-save was losing my images from the document, now that
> >> seems well and fixed.
> >> I have a UPS with 15 mins. or more reserve to give me plenty of time to
> >> save when the beeping starts, and LO seems so stable now, my multiple
> >> documents can sit open for a week or more and I cannot remember the last
> >> crash/hangup. I almost wonder if I can turn auto-save off.
> >> steve
> >>
> >>
> >> On 18/02/18 07:29, Girvin Herr wrote:
> >>
> >>> My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start
> >>> typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I
> don't
> >>> notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to evaluate
> what
> >>> keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the keystrokes that got
> >>> ignored. I still find the autosave benefits outweigh these
> aggravations,
> >>> though, so I have it enabled all the time.
> >>>
> >>> Girvin Herr
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi :)
>  +1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!
> 
>  The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I
>  don't
>  like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs
> to
>  do
>  something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and
> then
>  just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule
>  rather
>  than on the machine's.
> 
>  Regards from
>  a Tom :)
> 
> 
>  On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook" 
> wrote:
> 
>  On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >> I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a
> >> right-click
> >> either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has
> something.
> >>
> > Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
> > lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with
> > multiple
> > selected files.
> >
> > I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put
> >> them
> >> on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all
> >> seems a
> >> bit extreme.
> >>
> > It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
> > reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
> > Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat
> about
> > its inability to do so.
> >
> > You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
> >> feature.  Such options used to be in;
> >> Tools - Options - ...
> >> or something like that and prolly still are.
> >>
> > Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document,
> however
> > depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[zahra a]

hi.
for changing autoSave:
open tools, options, load-save, general and active or deactivate
Save AutoRecovery information every:
newer versions of libreoffice by default, save the informations every
ten minutes and you can change the number of saving.

On 2/23/18, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> If you do try turning the auto-save off then you really need to get into
> the habit of doing your own saves quite frequently.
>
> I tend to find that creating a document originally takes me a fair while
> but if i lose it then it takes me a LOT less time 2nd time around.  When
> first trying to write something down i wrestle with all sorts of decisions
> about grammar, layout, formatting and how to express my thoughts.  If i
> lose even a significant chunk of work i can usually re-create it very
> quickly 2nd time around because i tend to find those decisions are still
> lurking around somewhere so i can just get on with the typing.
>
> Regards from
> a Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> On 18 February 2018 at 03:04, Steve Edmonds 
> wrote:
>
>> It is an interesting discussion.
>> A while back auto-save was losing my images from the document, now that
>> seems well and fixed.
>> I have a UPS with 15 mins. or more reserve to give me plenty of time to
>> save when the beeping starts, and LO seems so stable now, my multiple
>> documents can sit open for a week or more and I cannot remember the last
>> crash/hangup. I almost wonder if I can turn auto-save off.
>> steve
>>
>>
>> On 18/02/18 07:29, Girvin Herr wrote:
>>
>>> My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start
>>> typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I don't
>>> notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to evaluate what
>>> keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the keystrokes that got
>>> ignored. I still find the autosave benefits outweigh these aggravations,
>>> though, so I have it enabled all the time.
>>>
>>> Girvin Herr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>
 Hi :)
 +1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!

 The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I
 don't
 like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs to
 do
 something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and then
 just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule
 rather
 than on the machine's.

 Regards from
 a Tom :)


 On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:

 On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a
>> right-click
>> either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.
>>
> Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
> lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with
> multiple
> selected files.
>
> I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put
>> them
>> on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all
>> seems a
>> bit extreme.
>>
> It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
> reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
> Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
> its inability to do so.
>
> You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
>> feature.  Such options used to be in;
>> Tools - Options - ...
>> or something like that and prolly still are.
>>
> Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
> depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
If you do try turning the auto-save off then you really need to get into
the habit of doing your own saves quite frequently.

I tend to find that creating a document originally takes me a fair while
but if i lose it then it takes me a LOT less time 2nd time around.  When
first trying to write something down i wrestle with all sorts of decisions
about grammar, layout, formatting and how to express my thoughts.  If i
lose even a significant chunk of work i can usually re-create it very
quickly 2nd time around because i tend to find those decisions are still
lurking around somewhere so i can just get on with the typing.

Regards from
a Tom :)




On 18 February 2018 at 03:04, Steve Edmonds 
wrote:

> It is an interesting discussion.
> A while back auto-save was losing my images from the document, now that
> seems well and fixed.
> I have a UPS with 15 mins. or more reserve to give me plenty of time to
> save when the beeping starts, and LO seems so stable now, my multiple
> documents can sit open for a week or more and I cannot remember the last
> crash/hangup. I almost wonder if I can turn auto-save off.
> steve
>
>
> On 18/02/18 07:29, Girvin Herr wrote:
>
>> My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start
>> typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I don't
>> notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to evaluate what
>> keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the keystrokes that got
>> ignored. I still find the autosave benefits outweigh these aggravations,
>> though, so I have it enabled all the time.
>>
>> Girvin Herr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>>> Hi :)
>>> +1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!
>>>
>>> The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I
>>> don't
>>> like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs to
>>> do
>>> something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and then
>>> just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule
>>> rather
>>> than on the machine's.
>>>
>>> Regards from
>>> a Tom :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a
> right-click
> either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.
>
 Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
 lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with multiple
 selected files.

 I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put
> them
> on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all
> seems a
> bit extreme.
>
 It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
 reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
 Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
 its inability to do so.

 You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
> feature.  Such options used to be in;
> Tools - Options - ...
> or something like that and prolly still are.
>
 Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
 depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Steve Edmonds]

It is an interesting discussion.
A while back auto-save was losing my images from the document, now that 
seems well and fixed.
I have a UPS with 15 mins. or more reserve to give me plenty of time to 
save when the beeping starts, and LO seems so stable now, my multiple 
documents can sit open for a week or more and I cannot remember the last 
crash/hangup. I almost wonder if I can turn auto-save off.

steve

On 18/02/18 07:29, Girvin Herr wrote:
My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start 
typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I 
don't notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to 
evaluate what keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the 
keystrokes that got ignored. I still find the autosave benefits 
outweigh these aggravations, though, so I have it enabled all the time.


Girvin Herr



On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
+1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!

The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I 
don't
like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs 
to do

something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and then
just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule 
rather

than on the machine's.

Regards from
a Tom :)


On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:


On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a 
right-click

either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.

Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with 
multiple

selected files.

I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or 
put them
on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all 
seems a

bit extreme.

It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
its inability to do so.


You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
feature.  Such options used to be in;
Tools - Options - ...
or something like that and prolly still are.

Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Girvin Herr]

My beef with autosave is that it seems to start saving just as I start 
typing and it does not save my keystrokes while it is saving and I don't 
notice it is saving. I end up after the autosave, having to evaluate 
what keystrokes worked and what didn't, and redoing the keystrokes that 
got ignored. I still find the autosave benefits outweigh these 
aggravations, though, so I have it enabled all the time.


Girvin Herr



On 02/17/2018 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
+1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!

The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I don't
like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs to do
something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and then
just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule rather
than on the machine's.

Regards from
a Tom :)


On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:


On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a right-click
either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.

Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with multiple
selected files.


I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put them
on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all seems a
bit extreme.

It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
its inability to do so.


You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
feature.  Such options used to be in;
Tools - Options - ...
or something like that and prolly still are.

Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
+1 to all points there!  I hadn't thought through my suggestions!

The autosave thing is something that annoys me more than it helps.  I don't
like my machine putting me on hold when it suddenly decides it needs to do
something.  I tend to switch features like this off where I can and then
just try to make sure I do my own saving and backups on my schedule rather
than on the machine's.

Regards from
a Tom :)


On 17 Feb 2018 10:05, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:

> On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a right-click
> > either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.
>
> Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
> lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with multiple
> selected files.
>
> > I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put them
> > on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all seems a
> > bit extreme.
>
> It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
> reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
> Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
> its inability to do so.
>
> > You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
> > feature.  Such options used to be in;
> > Tools - Options - ...
> > or something like that and prolly still are.
>
> Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
> depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a right-click
> either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.

Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with multiple
selected files.

> I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put them
> on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all seems a
> bit extreme.

It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
its inability to do so.

> You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
> feature.  Such options used to be in;
> Tools - Options - ...
> or something like that and prolly still are.

Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a right-click
either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.

I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put them
on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all seems a
bit extreme.


You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
feature.  Such options used to be in;
Tools - Options - ...
or something like that and prolly still are.

Good luck and regards from
a Tom :)


On 14 Feb 2018 23:36, "Peter Hillier-Brook"  wrote:

> On 14/02/18 20:42, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> > Is it possible to make this setting on a per-document basis.
> > It is a real interruption editing one document with 8-10 others open for
> > reference only, that all auto-save and stop you editing the working
> > document.
> >
> > It would also be useful then to turn auto-save off for reference
> > documents so they are not accidentally altered.
> >
> > If not, possible enhancement. An auto-save on/off toggle in a top or
> > bottom bar for easy reference and switching.
>
> Just a guess, but why not open the "reference only" documents as read
> only? I imagine that LibreOffice will not auto save such documents, but
> if it does I would suggest that that's a bug.
>
> Peter HB
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 14/02/18 20:42, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Is it possible to make this setting on a per-document basis.
> It is a real interruption editing one document with 8-10 others open for
> reference only, that all auto-save and stop you editing the working
> document.
> 
> It would also be useful then to turn auto-save off for reference
> documents so they are not accidentally altered.
> 
> If not, possible enhancement. An auto-save on/off toggle in a top or
> bottom bar for easy reference and switching.

Just a guess, but why not open the "reference only" documents as read
only? I imagine that LibreOffice will not auto save such documents, but
if it does I would suggest that that's a bug.

Peter HB


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[libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Steve Edmonds]

Is it possible to make this setting on a per-document basis.
It is a real interruption editing one document with 8-10 others open for 
reference only, that all auto-save and stop you editing the working 
document.


It would also be useful then to turn auto-save off for reference 
documents so they are not accidentally altered.


If not, possible enhancement. An auto-save on/off toggle in a top or 
bottom bar for easy reference and switching.


Cheers,steve

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