Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance On 7/2/2013 5:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom :) From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) Crashes are not normal and shouldn't be happening so often. If they happen at all then it should be rare and should be due to the user doing something dumb that they notice and makes them think oops, didn't mean to do that or deliberately killing the process. My machines are lower spec and don't suffer from crashes like this. It might be good to post a bug-report but please use one of the drop-downs to make it clear it's a feature request rather than a real bug. The real bug is whatever is causing the crash. Regards from Tom :) From: Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 14:42 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance On 7/2/2013 5:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom :) From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Good morning (2013/07/03 22:42), Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: It would seem that crashes like these are inevitable. However, the results may not need be. Is it possible to force a system check during loading of files above default that causes the error to generate a message Running out of memory, Document will stop loading: Press this button to re-allocate your current memory setup under Tools - Options - Memory? Thanks in advance I am afraid, I do not understand what force a system check during loading of files means / or how that is done. All I get is a screen reading: Due to an unexpected error LO crashed. All files ... saved. ... and recorvery automatically at the next start (somewhat abbreviated) Then - click SAVE Start recovery? - click recover after a while: Finished click that and the file opens again There are no other choices I have or operations I can do. I also tried to save the file under a different name in a different location: no effect Deleted an index at the end of the file (just a thought): no effect As Mr. Davis suggested: turn off automatic backup - this has been off Save AutoRecovery information every is set at 15 minutes LO DOES save the file in regular intervals, but I cannot find where to change that. I also tried the switching to web layout with small files containing only text like Mr. Davis did and in this case (at least not during the short test period) LO did NOT crash. Is there a setting, where I can choose whether images are displayed or not? Maybe its really time for that bug report - if I manage to figure out how that is done. ** ** -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in sizebecause of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces betweeen pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in sizebecause of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces betweeen pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- DISCLAIMER http://www.tvh.com/newen2/emaildisclaimer/default.html This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom :) From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hit reply all. This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting reply all you go into the To box and manually delete the extra emails. Virgil -Original Message- From: Thomas Blasejewicz Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:39 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use Reply to all or Group reply rather than just the normal Reply to. It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) I don't mind getting 2 copies of so many emails. After clearing 20 emails i feel better than after clearing just 10 and almost double-clicking the delete key is not really tough for me. I know it does infuriate some other people though. My main worry is if no-one on the list sees my replies so i usually quickly glance at the To and CC fields to see who is getting the response. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 18:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Hit reply all. This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting reply all you go into the To box and manually delete the extra emails. Virgil -Original Message- From: Thomas Blasejewicz Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:39 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes due to an unexpected error as it calls it. Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:45:21 +0100 (BST) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hello Tom, I don't mind getting 2 copies of so many emails. After clearing 20 emails i feel better than after clearing just 10 and almost double-clicking the delete key is not really tough for me. I know it does infuriate some other people though. Not infuriate, but it is a mild annoyance. As an example; if you were having a chat in bar with a stranger and they followed you home and, after you'd gone indoors, knocked on your door to repeat, verbatim, everything said in the bar, you'd think that person a bit odd at the very least. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Going round on the Circle Line trying to find a way out Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Tom, You have got to be the most positive thinking person I've ever met, even if only through cyberspace. I aspire to your positive outlook. (And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic.) Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:45 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Hi :) I don't mind getting 2 copies of so many emails. After clearing 20 emails i feel better than after clearing just 10 and almost double-clicking the delete key is not really tough for me. I know it does infuriate some other people though. My main worry is if no-one on the list sees my replies so i usually quickly glance at the To and CC fields to see who is getting the response. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 18:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Hit reply all. This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting reply all you go into the To box and manually delete the extra emails. Virgil -Original Message- From: Thomas Blasejewicz Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:39 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon I do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size because of about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book). This file is usually open in print preview mode. When I try to switch to web layout, so that I can see more text without all those funky margins and spaces between pages, LibreOffice (3.6.5.2
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
When this odd mailist behavior was instituted a while back, many people complained and it was decided by the instituter that there was to be a poll about it and if most people in the poll complained, they would return to the standard behavior. What ever happened to that? All I see are complaints about this behavior. I don't remember anyone saying they loved it. Like the other poster, I find it mildly annoying - especially after sending, I realize I used the wrong method and have to do it all over again. That's not very productive. Girvin Herr Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use Reply to all or Group reply rather than just the normal Reply to. It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom   *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com   *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp   *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org   *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45   *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes   You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4.   Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working?   Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,   DRIES FEYS   CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer   T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com   TVH GROUP NV   Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM   T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com   On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote:  ÂGood afternoon  ÂI do have an ordinary ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size   because of  Âabout 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book).  Â
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thunderbird (at least on Linux, can't speak for other platforms), If the list requires it you have 2 different reply options. One that replies to the originator of the particular message and the other has a drop down that gives options of Reply List, Reply All, just Reply. I beleive that the Reply All will have the below mentioned behavior of sending to the list plus to the originator. On mine I have Reply List so it will not send a second copy to the originator. Also on other lists I only one of the 2 buttons available, only this and a couple of others are they both there. I believe that it's something that gets embedded into the email header by the email server running the particular list(s). On 07/02/2013 01:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use Reply to all or Group reply rather than just the normal Reply to. It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp mailto:tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote: Good afternoon
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Hi :) Thunderbird has some really good features like that. It's made for and by the wider Open Source community and recommended by a lot of individuals in many different OpenSource groups. Regards from Tom :) From: Scott Castaline skotch...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 20:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thunderbird (at least on Linux, can't speak for other platforms), If the list requires it you have 2 different reply options. One that replies to the originator of the particular message and the other has a drop down that gives options of Reply List, Reply All, just Reply. I beleive that the Reply All will have the below mentioned behavior of sending to the list plus to the originator. On mine I have Reply List so it will not send a second copy to the originator. Also on other lists I only one of the 2 buttons available, only this and a couple of others are they both there. I believe that it's something that gets embedded into the email header by the email server running the particular list(s). On 07/02/2013 01:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use Reply to all or Group reply rather than just the normal Reply to. It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) We are going off-topic. Normally i quite enjoy that but in this case the o.p's problem is not yet solved. Also i don't want to be an apologist for an awkward set-up that i don't like either. I've been told that a lot of people did pester the-powers-that-be to make the lists as they are and that the poll we took didn't get close to the same numbers of people requesting the more sensible method we used to have or some other more sensible method. The timing was really ironic for me. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 20:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes When this odd mailist behavior was instituted a while back, many people complained and it was decided by the instituter that there was to be a poll about it and if most people in the poll complained, they would return to the standard behavior. What ever happened to that? All I see are complaints about this behavior. I don't remember anyone saying they loved it. Like the other poster, I find it mildly annoying - especially after sending, I realize I used the wrong method and have to do it all over again. That's not very productive. Girvin Herr Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use Reply to all or Group reply rather than just the normal Reply to. It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom   *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com   *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp   *Cc:* users
Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
Hi :) Thanks :) [bows] This list seems to be one of the most positive in the project. It's a good crowd of people here. Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 19:38 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Tom, You have got to be the most positive thinking person I've ever met, even if only through cyberspace. I aspire to your positive outlook. (And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic.) Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:45 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Hi :) I don't mind getting 2 copies of so many emails. After clearing 20 emails i feel better than after clearing just 10 and almost double-clicking the delete key is not really tough for me. I know it does infuriate some other people though. My main worry is if no-one on the list sees my replies so i usually quickly glance at the To and CC fields to see who is getting the response. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 18:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes Hit reply all. This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting reply all you go into the To box and manually delete the extra emails. Virgil -Original Message- From: Thomas Blasejewicz Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:39 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list. There seems to be a trick to it ... (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote: Hi Also try Tools - Options - Memory and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the Use for LibreOffice set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea. However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice Tools - Options - Advanced The top tick-box lets you switch it off. The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily get back to factory defaults by renaming your User Profile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off so far no improvement. reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ... One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile? One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it. Regards from Tom *From:* Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4. Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working? Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com mailto:dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 2 July 2013 09:15
