Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
http://www.lasa.org.uk/aims/choosing-the-right-package/

Just under the bullet-points it claims 
"
You can purchase AIMS Core which allows up
to 15 concurrent users. This version of AIMS is available in either Access or 
SQL versions.
" 

So it's a bit unclear whether the Access version is using the normal jet-engine 
or  Microsoft SQL Server as it's back-end.  Either way i think there is a 
potential problem at being able to run their front-end, or use another 
front-end, on non-MS platforms such as Android tablets, Macs, iPads.  I suspect 
the Firebird back-end is more likely to be faster and more compatible with more 
platforms.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Mark LaPierre 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 23:30
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>Access is no back end.  As a front end it's fairly adaptable as long as 
>the total file size does not exceed 2 Gb.  That 2 Gb limit pretty much 
>rules it out as a back end for anything but very light weight databases.
>
>On 07/17/2013 06:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> +1
>> to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd 
>> appreciate any help you can offer.".  Plus, making yourself familiar with 
>> HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan anyway.  HsqlDb is java based but it's small and 
>> fast so as an external back-end it's good for most uses.
>>
>> My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird 
>> as a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too.  Unfortunately they 
>> have left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation 
>> that is fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is 
>> Access.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> From: V Stuart Foote 
>>> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55
>>> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to 
>>> understand the concept ;-)
>>>
>>> So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for 
>>> integration with the Base component.
>>>
>>> Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing:
>>>
>>> considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
>>>
>>> find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781
>>>
>>> considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854
>>>
>>> move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current 
>>> development effort
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780
>>>
>>> Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing 
>>> FirebirdSQL
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL
>>>
>>> Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>>>
>>> Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I
>>> thought it might be a bit too far off topic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Mark LaPierre]

Access is no back end.  As a front end it's fairly adaptable as long as 
the total file size does not exceed 2 Gb.  That 2 Gb limit pretty much 
rules it out as a back end for anything but very light weight databases.


On 07/17/2013 06:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
+1
to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any 
help you can offer.".  Plus, making yourself familiar with HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan 
anyway.  HsqlDb is java based but it's small and fast so as an external back-end it's 
good for most uses.

My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird as 
a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too.  Unfortunately they have 
left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation that is 
fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is Access.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: V Stuart Foote 
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax


Mark,

Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to understand 
the concept ;-)

So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for 
integration with the Base component.

Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing:

considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811

find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781

considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854

move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current development 
effort
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780

Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing 
FirebirdSQL
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL

Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.

Stuart


From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I
thought it might be a bit too far off topic.



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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[anne-ology]

   and what about 'genuine imitation'  ;-)

   Yes, I'm ashamed to admit that the USofA probably is the worse for
producing slang  ;-)
and bad grammar - as Professor Higgins [My Fair Lady] said,
'and in America, they haven't used it for years'  ;-)



From: Tom Davies 
Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


Hi :)
"new and improved" is hopefully a duplication rather than a contradiction!
lol.  Not always true, of course.

English (US) does tend to use different prepositions under English (GB).
Out advertising people also seems to just muddle them down to try to
reinforce their message.  Council estate kids and common usage also messes
things into.
Regards from
Tom :)




>
> From: Brian Barker 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 2:46
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>
>
>At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this.
>>
>>[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and"
>>where the meaning is "Try to".  I.E. I'm going to try and drive my
>>car backwards for three miles.  When I see it, or hear it, I wonder,
>>"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the
>>car?"  Make up my mind!
>
>I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler
>says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys"
>(or one-through-two):
>
>>... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour',
>>instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are
>>true examples.
>
>See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys .  Advertisers use it when
>they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a
>contradiction), meaning "newly improved".
>
>Brian Barker
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
+1
to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd 
appreciate any help you can offer.".  Plus, making yourself familiar with 
HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan anyway.  HsqlDb is java based but it's small and fast 
so as an external back-end it's good for most uses.  

My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird as 
a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too.  Unfortunately they have 
left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation that is 
fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is Access.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: V Stuart Foote 
>To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>Mark,
>
>Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to understand 
>the concept ;-)
>
>So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for 
>integration with the Base component. 
>
>Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing:
>
>considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement
>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
>
>find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8
>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781
>
>considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x
>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854
>
>move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current development 
>effort
>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780
>
>Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing 
>FirebirdSQL
>https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL
>
>Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.
>
>Stuart
>
>____
>From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>
>Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I
>thought it might be a bit too far off topic.
>
>
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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
"new and improved" is hopefully a duplication rather than a contradiction!  
lol.  Not always true, of course.  

English (US) does tend to use different prepositions under English (GB).  Out 
advertising people also seems to just muddle them down to try to reinforce 
their message.  Council estate kids and common usage also messes things into.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Brian Barker 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 2:46
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this.
>>
>>[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" 
>>where the meaning is "Try to".  I.E. I'm going to try and drive my 
>>car backwards for three miles.  When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, 
>>"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the 
>>car?"  Make up my mind!
>
>I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler 
>says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys" 
>(or one-through-two):
>
>>... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour', 
>>instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are 
>>true examples.
>
>See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys .  Advertisers use it when 
>they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a 
>contradiction), meaning "newly improved".
>
>Brian Barker
>
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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Brian Barker]

At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:

As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this.

[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" 
where the meaning is "Try to".  I.E. I'm going to try and drive my 
car backwards for three miles.  When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, 
"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the 
car?"  Make up my mind!


I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler 
says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys" 
(or one-through-two):


... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour', 
instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are 
true examples.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys .  Advertisers use it when 
they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a 
contradiction), meaning "newly improved".


Brian Barker


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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Brian Barker]

At 16:15 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Brian Barker wrote:

At 02:02 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:
This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See 
dictionary definition in URL below.)

the definition says:
-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial 
letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts 
of a compound term; [...]

-
I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.


May I help?  I think I can.  It's right there in the second word of 
the definition: it says it's a *word*, so it'll be pronounced as, er, a word!


ah, now I see where that comes from!

deviates from  which counts 
the following formations as acronyms:


BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
USA: The United States of America
FGM: Female Genital Mutilation

or maybe it doesn't deviate after all since they can also be 
pronounced as words (any string of initials can).


Oh no: they are indeed examples of initialisms that are not 
pronounced as words, so are not what I call acronyms.  But to be fair 
to Wikipedia, it does explain the distinction further up, but then 
says it will not follow it in the rest of the article:


Although the term _acronym_ is widely used to refer to any 
abbreviation formed from initial letters, some dictionaries define 
_acronym_ to mean "a word" in its original sense, while some others 
include additional senses attributing to _acronym_ the same meaning 
as that of _initialism_. The distinction, when made, hinges on 
whether the abbreviation is pronounced as a word, or as a string of 
letters. In such cases, examples found in dictionaries include 
_NATO_, _scuba_, and _radar_ for acronyms, and _FBI_ and _HTML_ for 
initialisms. In the rest of this article, this distinction is not made.



I'm going to let Anne-ology make the call.


Oh, we are all entitled to speak and write as we wish, of course.

Brian Barker


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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Mark LaPierre]

As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this.

I common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" where the 
meaning is "Try to".  I.E. I'm going to try and drive my car backwards 
for three miles.  When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, "Are they going 
to try the car, or are they going to drive the car?"  Make up my mind!


On 07/16/2013 07:25 PM, Keith Bates wrote:

The base of the misunderstanding is the shift in meaning of the word
acronym over the last few decades. It used to mean an abbreviation which
formed a word- such as radar. Now it seems to be used more for an
abbreviation which is more familiar than the original terms. e.g. most
people know the BBC or the Beeb but fewer know it stands for British
Broadcasting Corporation. In my experience bureaucracies spawn all kinds
of meaningless terms which then get abbreviated-- these abbreviations
become known as acronyms because everyone knows what the FHSAP does but
nobody knows what the abbreviation stands for. (I just made that
abbreviation up- there probably is one somewhere in your local, state or
regional bureaucracy).

It's similar with the word electrocution which everyone over 50 knows is
a fatal electric shock. Everyone under 50 seems to use it as an
alternative to electric shock which leads to interesting phrases such as
"electrocuted to death" and "I've been electrocuted three times."

Life would be much simpler if they let the pedants run everything.

Keith

On 17/07/13 06:15, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Brian Barker wrote:


At 02:02 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:

This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See
dictionary definition in URL below.)


the definition says:
-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter
or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a
compound term; [...]
-

I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.


May I help?  I think I can.  It's right there in the second word of
the definition: it says it's a *word*, so it'll be pronounced as, er,
a word!


ah, now I see where that comes from!

deviates from  which counts the
following formations as acronyms:

BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
USA: The United States of America
FGM: Female Genital Mutilation

or maybe it doesn't deviate after all since they can also be
pronounced as words (any string of initials can).

I'm going to let Anne-ology make the call.

F.








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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Keith Bates]

The base of the misunderstanding is the shift in meaning of the word 
acronym over the last few decades. It used to mean an abbreviation which 
formed a word- such as radar. Now it seems to be used more for an 
abbreviation which is more familiar than the original terms. e.g. most 
people know the BBC or the Beeb but fewer know it stands for British 
Broadcasting Corporation. In my experience bureaucracies spawn all kinds 
of meaningless terms which then get abbreviated-- these abbreviations 
become known as acronyms because everyone knows what the FHSAP does but 
nobody knows what the abbreviation stands for. (I just made that 
abbreviation up- there probably is one somewhere in your local, state or 
regional bureaucracy).


It's similar with the word electrocution which everyone over 50 knows is 
a fatal electric shock. Everyone under 50 seems to use it as an 
alternative to electric shock which leads to interesting phrases such as 
"electrocuted to death" and "I've been electrocuted three times."


Life would be much simpler if they let the pedants run everything.

Keith

On 17/07/13 06:15, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Brian Barker wrote:


At 02:02 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:
This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See 
dictionary definition in URL below.)


the definition says:
-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter 
or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a 
compound term; [...]

-

I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.


May I help?  I think I can.  It's right there in the second word of 
the definition: it says it's a *word*, so it'll be pronounced as, er, 
a word!


ah, now I see where that comes from!

deviates from  which counts the 
following formations as acronyms:


BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
USA: The United States of America
FGM: Female Genital Mutilation

or maybe it doesn't deviate after all since they can also be 
pronounced as words (any string of initials can).


I'm going to let Anne-ology make the call.

F.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Off-topic is relative.  Luckily not one of my relatives!  This thread has been 
all the way to ancient Rome.

Sorry if my grammer is a bit off.  She still hasn't recovered from lunch.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Mark LaPierre 
>To: Tom Davies  
>Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:13
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I 
>thought it might be a bit too far off topic.
>
>On 07/16/2013 07:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> I think it's a heavily tweaked 1.8 so not everything will work the way
>> it's meant to.  Still, it would be great to have some idea of where LO's
>> version is different from the "upstream" original.  Hmm, or perhaps just
>> wait&see what goes into LO to replace it.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>     --------
>>     *From:* Mark LaPierre 
>>     *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 23:22
>>     *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>>
>>     On 07/15/2013 11:44 AM, V Stuart Foote:
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > STOP!
>>      >
>>      > Anne, glad you're back but seriously?
>>      >
>>      > HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java
>>     language
>>      > based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the
>>      > imbedded database for the project.
>>      >
>>      > Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see
>>     that
>>      > ripped out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of
>>     HSQLDB will be
>>      > upgraded to a current 2.3 release.
>>      >
>>      > Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project
>>      > webpage at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.
>>      >
>>      > Stuart
>>      >
>>
>>     Hey Stuart,
>>
>>     Thanks for the tip on the version.  I was not aware of that small fact.
>>        I was starting to read the 2.3 documentation.
>>
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RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[V Stuart Foote]

Mark,

Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to understand 
the concept ;-)

So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for 
integration with the Base component. 

Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing:

considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811

find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781

considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854

move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current development 
effort
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780

Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing 
FirebirdSQL
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL
 
Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.

Stuart


From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I
thought it might be a bit too far off topic.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Mark LaPierre]

Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I 
thought it might be a bit too far off topic.


On 07/16/2013 07:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think it's a heavily tweaked 1.8 so not everything will work the way
it's meant to.  Still, it would be great to have some idea of where LO's
version is different from the "upstream" original.  Hmm, or perhaps just
wait&see what goes into LO to replace it.
Regards from
Tom :)



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*Sent:* Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 23:22
    *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

On 07/15/2013 11:44 AM, V Stuart Foote:
 >
 >
 > STOP!
 >
 > Anne, glad you're back but seriously?
 >
 > HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java
language
 > based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the
 > imbedded database for the project.
 >
 > Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see
that
 > ripped out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of
HSQLDB will be
 > upgraded to a current 2.3 release.
 >
 > Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project
 > webpage at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.
 >
 > Stuart
 >

Hey Stuart,

Thanks for the tip on the version.  I was not aware of that small fact.
   I was starting to read the 2.3 documentation.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think it's a heavily tweaked 1.8 so not everything will work the way it's 
meant to.  Still, it would be great to have some idea of where LO's version is 
different from the "upstream" original.  Hmm, or perhaps just wait&see what 
goes into LO to replace it.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Mark LaPierre 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 23:22
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>On 07/15/2013 11:44 AM, V Stuart Foote:
>>
>>
>> STOP!
>>
>> Anne, glad you're back but seriously?
>>
>> HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java language
>> based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the
>> imbedded database for the project.
>>
>> Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see that
>> ripped out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of HSQLDB will be
>> upgraded to a current 2.3 release.
>>
>> Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project
>> webpage at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>
>Hey Stuart,
>
>Thanks for the tip on the version.  I was not aware of that small fact. 
>  I was starting to read the 2.3 documentation.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Mark LaPierre]

On 07/15/2013 11:44 AM, V Stuart Foote:



STOP!

Anne, glad you're back but seriously?

HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java language
based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the
imbedded database for the project.

Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see that
ripped out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of HSQLDB will be
upgraded to a current 2.3 release.

Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project
webpage at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.

Stuart



Hey Stuart,

Thanks for the tip on the version.  I was not aware of that small fact. 
 I was starting to read the 2.3 documentation.



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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Felmon Davis]

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Brian Barker wrote:


At 02:02 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:
This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See dictionary 
definition in URL below.)


the definition says:
-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter or 
letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; 
[...]

-

I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.


May I help?  I think I can.  It's right there in the second word of the 
definition: it says it's a *word*, so it'll be pronounced as, er, a word!


ah, now I see where that comes from!

deviates from  which counts the 
following formations as acronyms:


BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
USA: The United States of America
FGM: Female Genital Mutilation

or maybe it doesn't deviate after all since they can also be 
pronounced as words (any string of initials can).


I'm going to let Anne-ology make the call.

F.


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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Brian Barker]

At 02:02 16/07/2013 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:
This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See 
dictionary definition in URL below.)


the definition says:
-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter 
or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a 
compound term; [...]

-

I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.


May I help?  I think I can.  It's right there in the second word of 
the definition: it says it's a *word*, so it'll be pronounced as, er, a word!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[anne-ology]

   Ah, Latin ... yes, I remember it ... a language which should again
be taught to students;
then maybe these slang terms, these acronyms, these non-words,
... ... ... would cease to exist, huh?   ;-)

   BTW - is there a word for a string of non-pronounceable letters
which ...
ah, maybe it's the same word used for those 2 lines
between the nose & upper lip, huh?  ;-)




From: Doug 
Date: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


On 7/15/2013 12:25 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, anne-ology wrote:
>
>And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)
>>
> This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See dictionary
definition in URL below.)


>>   oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
>> organize one's thoughts ...
>>wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
>> object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's
>> being
>> meant by what's being said  ;-)
>>
>>  see -  
>> http://www.merriam-webster.**com/dictionary/acronym<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym>
>>
>>   AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
>> started in 1943 ;-)
>>
>
> do you know SPQR? or INRI? or Q.E.D.?
>
None of these are acronyms either.

Senatus PupulusQue Romanus: did you know that the Roman street catchbasins
and manhole covers are marked SPQR? Yes, today.

Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[anne-ology]

   Thanks  :-)

   Now ... I thought Java was an out-dated thing -
 which no one used anymore and that should be dis-connected
from action  ;-)

   So it's come back with a convoluted acronym and websites hither 'n
yon  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)

   I guess I'll always remain behind in this electronic world ...
maze   ;-)




From: V Stuart Foote 
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
To: Mail List LibreOffice 


STOP!

Anne, glad you're back but seriously?

HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java language
based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the
imbedded database for the project.

Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see that
ripped out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of HSQLDB will be
upgraded to a current 2.3 release.

Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project
webpage at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.

Stuart



From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:15 AM
To: anne-ology; Mark LaPierre
Cc: Mail List LibreOffice
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

Hi :)
My guess is that he meant

H Sql Db

SQL = the standard language used by most database programs.  Most add a
little bit (few extra commands and stuff) to the basic language to help
ensure that people can't easily switch to another program even though they
all ostensibly use Sql.

Db = Database

H is the only bit that distinguishes exactly which program is being talked
about.

Note that other programs also use Sql or Db in their name.  For example
MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql.  Only Access doesn't have any of that in it's
name.  Of course MS make many claims that Access does use Sql but it's such
a heavily tweaked version of Sql that it's almost unrecognisable.  If you
learn Access then you need to forget&re-learn if you want to switch to
anything else.  The others tend to just have a few differences so it's not
so tough to move between them.  At least, so i have heard.

Regards from
Tom :)



>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Mark LaPierre 
>Cc: Mail List LibreOffice 
>Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:38
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>
>
>   And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)
>
>   oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
>organize one's thoughts ...
>wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
>object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
>meant by what's being said  ;-)
>
>  see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym
>
>   AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
>started in 1943 ;-)
>before then communication was simply speaking to be
>understood  ;-)
>
>   BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
>confusion to the listener  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
>
>
>> On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
>> > HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[anne-ology]

   acronyms ... acronyms ... acronyms ...  ;-)   :-(   ;-)   :-(
;-)   :-(

   Yet thank you for this explanation.



From: Tom Davies 
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
To: anne-ology , Mark LaPierre 
Cc: Mail List LibreOffice 


Hi :)
My guess is that he meant

H Sql Db

SQL = the standard language used by most database programs.  Most add a
little bit (few extra commands and stuff) to the basic language to help
ensure that people can't easily switch to another program even though they
all ostensibly use Sql.

Db = Database

H is the only bit that distinguishes exactly which program is being talked
about.

Note that other programs also use Sql or Db in their name.  For example
MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql.  Only Access doesn't have any of that in it's
name.  Of course MS make many claims that Access does use Sql but it's such
a heavily tweaked version of Sql that it's almost unrecognisable.  If you
learn Access then you need to forget&re-learn if you want to switch to
anything else.  The others tend to just have a few differences so it's not
so tough to move between them.  At least, so i have heard.

Regards from
Tom :)



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*To:* Mark LaPierre 
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*Sent:* Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:38
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

  And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

  oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
meant by what's being said  ;-)

  see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

  AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)
before then communication was simply speaking to be
understood  ;-)

  BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
confusion to the listener  ;-)



On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:


> On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> > HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?
>
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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax (OT)

[Felmon Davis]

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:


On 7/16/2013 2:02 AM, Felmon Davis wrote:



Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum


I just read today that according to one author, this was supposed to be a 
description of his 'crime', viz. insurrection against Roman authority.


anyway, off topic; my apologies.

F.

The translation, of course, is, "Jesus the Nazarene King of the Jews" and if 
he was truly King of the Jews, it could be argued that this was
insurrection against Roman authority, but Biblically, it would seem that this 
is what the Jews accused him of stating, since they complained
to Pilate that the sign should read, "He _said_ he was King of the Jews." 
And Pilate replied, "What I have written, I have written."


sure, Pilate executed him for insurrection.

but I messed up my main point which was, I didn't realize they 
actually hanged a sign on the cross naming the offense. I thought it 
was some later-day artist's fancy.


BTW, the first Latin Senatus PopulusQue Romanus had Populus misspelled. Sorry 
about that.


yeah, I know but I've played enough Latin on the list for now; I did 
look up 'pupulus' though and it's funny: means 'little boy' or a 
'puppet'. may be more truth in that!


F.

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Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax (OT)

[Doug]

On 7/16/2013 2:02 AM, Felmon Davis wrote:



Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum


I just read today that according to one author, this was supposed to 
be a description of his 'crime', viz. insurrection against Roman 
authority.


anyway, off topic; my apologies.

F.

The translation, of course, is, "Jesus the Nazarene King of the Jews" 
and if he was truly King of the Jews, it could be argued that this was
insurrection against Roman authority, but Biblically, it would seem that 
this is what the Jews accused him of stating, since they complained
to Pilate that the sign should read, "He _said_ he was King of the 
Jews."  And Pilate replied, "What I have written, I have written."


BTW, the first Latin Senatus PopulusQue Romanus had Populus misspelled. 
Sorry about that.


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[OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Felmon Davis]

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Doug wrote:


On 7/15/2013 12:25 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, anne-ology wrote:


  And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See dictionary
definition in URL below.)


the definition says:

-
 : a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter or 
letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound 
term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters : 
initialism 
-


I'm missing the part about being pronounced as a word.



  oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
   wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's 
being

meant by what's being said  ;-)

 see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

  AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)


do you know SPQR? or INRI? or Q.E.D.?

None of these are acronyms either.



Senatus PupulusQue Romanus: did you know that the Roman street catchbasins
and manhole covers are marked SPQR? Yes, today.


interesting; never been to Rome, sorry to say.


Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum


I just read today that according to one author, this was supposed to 
be a description of his 'crime', viz. insurrection against Roman 
authority.


anyway, off topic; my apologies.

F.


Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Girvin R. Herr]

To keep the record straight, Stardivision's StarOffice did not use 
HSQLDB.  Unless the name has been changed, Stardivision used the ADABASE 
D database engine in their StarOffice.  As far as I can research, Sun 
dropped the proprietary Adabase D engine in favor of HSQLDB after it 
took over the StarOffice code from Stardivision.  I never was able to 
get Adabase D working for me back then, but I was ignorant of real 
(non-Access) databases then and the StarOffice Adabase D database 
documentation was terrible.

Girvin Herr


V Stuart Foote wrote:

STOP!

Anne, glad you're back but seriously?

HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java language 
based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the imbedded 
database for the project.

Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see that ripped 
out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of HSQLDB will be upgraded to 
a current 2.3 release.

Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project webpage 
at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.

Stuart


From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:15 AM
To: anne-ology; Mark LaPierre
Cc: Mail List LibreOffice
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

Hi :)
My guess is that he meant

H Sql Db

SQL = the standard language used by most database programs.  Most add a little 
bit (few extra commands and stuff) to the basic language to help ensure that 
people can't easily switch to another program even though they all ostensibly 
use Sql.

Db = Database

H is the only bit that distinguishes exactly which program is being talked 
about.

Note that other programs also use Sql or Db in their name.  For example 
MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql.  Only Access doesn't have any of that in it's name.  Of 
course MS make many claims that Access does use Sql but it's such a heavily tweaked 
version of Sql that it's almost unrecognisable.  If you learn Access then you need 
to forget&re-learn if you want to switch to anything else.  The others tend to 
just have a few differences so it's not so tough to move between them.  At least, 
so i have heard.

Regards from
Tom :)

  


From: anne-ology 
To: Mark LaPierre 
Cc: Mail List LibreOffice 
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:38
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax


   And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

   oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
meant by what's being said  ;-)

  see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

   AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)
before then communication was simply speaking to be
understood  ;-)

   BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
confusion to the listener  ;-)



On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:




On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
  

HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax


Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?

  



  


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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Doug]

On 7/15/2013 12:25 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, anne-ology wrote:


  And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

This is not an acronym. It can't be pronounced as a word. (See dictionary
definition in URL below.)


  oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
   wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's 
being

meant by what's being said  ;-)

 see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

  AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)


do you know SPQR? or INRI? or Q.E.D.?

None of these are acronyms either.

Senatus PupulusQue Romanus: did you know that the Roman street catchbasins
and manhole covers are marked SPQR? Yes, today.

Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[V Stuart Foote]

STOP!

Anne, glad you're back but seriously?

HSQLDB  is the short title and Web address for HyperSQL, the Java language 
based SQL relational database that StarOffice then Sun chose as the imbedded 
database for the project.

Currently we include the 1.8 release, and efforts will either see that ripped 
out of LibreOffice to be replaced, or the version of HSQLDB will be upgraded to 
a current 2.3 release.

Mark, et al., all the details you could ever want  are on the project webpage 
at hsqldb.org, just mind the version differences.

Stuart


From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:15 AM
To: anne-ology; Mark LaPierre
Cc: Mail List LibreOffice
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

Hi :)
My guess is that he meant

H Sql Db

SQL = the standard language used by most database programs.  Most add a little 
bit (few extra commands and stuff) to the basic language to help ensure that 
people can't easily switch to another program even though they all ostensibly 
use Sql.

Db = Database

H is the only bit that distinguishes exactly which program is being talked 
about.

Note that other programs also use Sql or Db in their name.  For example 
MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql.  Only Access doesn't have any of that in it's name.  
Of course MS make many claims that Access does use Sql but it's such a heavily 
tweaked version of Sql that it's almost unrecognisable.  If you learn Access 
then you need to forget&re-learn if you want to switch to anything else.  The 
others tend to just have a few differences so it's not so tough to move between 
them.  At least, so i have heard.

Regards from
Tom :)

>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Mark LaPierre 
>Cc: Mail List LibreOffice 
>Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:38
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
>
>
>   And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)
>
>   oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
>organize one's thoughts ...
>    wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
>object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
>meant by what's being said  ;-)
>
>  see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym
>
>   AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
>started in 1943 ;-)
>    before then communication was simply speaking to be
>understood  ;-)
>
>   BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
>confusion to the listener  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
>
>
>> On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
>> > HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?
>>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Felmon Davis]

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, anne-ology wrote:


  And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

  oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
   wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
meant by what's being said  ;-)

 see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

  AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)


do you know SPQR? or INRI? or Q.E.D.?


   before then communication was simply speaking to be
understood  ;-)

  BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
confusion to the listener  ;-)



On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:



On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax


Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
My guess is that he meant 

H Sql Db 

SQL = the standard language used by most database programs.  Most add a little 
bit (few extra commands and stuff) to the basic language to help ensure that 
people can't easily switch to another program even though they all ostensibly 
use Sql.  

Db = Database

H is the only bit that distinguishes exactly which program is being talked 
about.  

Note that other programs also use Sql or Db in their name.  For example 
MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql.  Only Access doesn't have any of that in it's name.  
Of course MS make many claims that Access does use Sql but it's such a heavily 
tweaked version of Sql that it's almost unrecognisable.  If you learn Access 
then you need to forget&re-learn if you want to switch to anything else.  The 
others tend to just have a few differences so it's not so tough to move between 
them.  At least, so i have heard.  

Regards from 
Tom :)






>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Mark LaPierre  
>Cc: Mail List LibreOffice  
>Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:38
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
> 
>
>       And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)
>
>       oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
>organize one's thoughts ...
>                wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
>object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
>meant by what's being said  ;-)
>
>      see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym
>
>       AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
>started in 1943 ;-)
>                before then communication was simply speaking to be
>understood  ;-)
>
>       BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
>confusion to the listener  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
>
>
>> On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
>> > HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?
>>
>> --
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>>    °v°
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>> https://linuxcounter.net/
>> 
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[anne-ology]

   And just what is HSLQLDB  ;-)

   oh, memorizing acronyms seems to me a mighty complicated way to
organize one's thoughts ...
wouldn't it be simpler - easier - to just state the
object(s) rather than leaving the listener trying to interpret what's being
meant by what's being said  ;-)

  see -  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

   AND - did you happen to notice in that URL, this phenomenon only
started in 1943 ;-)
before then communication was simply speaking to be
understood  ;-)

   BTW - many of these acronyms are duplicated - which causes even more
confusion to the listener  ;-)



On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:


> On 07/13/2013 05:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> > HSLQLDB is a bit picky about the syntax
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a good reference on HSLQLDB syntax?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

[Mark Stanton]

Google

When you spell it right, with just those two words you'll get, if 
it's the same as for me, 116k hits.

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