Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-26 Thread anne-ology
   Thank you!



On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


 For Win7 systems - you can see them through Control Panel  All Control
 Panel Items  Fonts
 which was on the left hand side of the window.

 Now you can delete the fonts by right clicking on it and using the delete
 option[s].
 To install fonts, you must have the font setting to NOT make a link to
 the font.  That is always trouble.
 So from there, you just have a list of fonts in a working folder and
 right click on the font[s] you want to install and use the install option.

 That is how I do this.

 The only issue is you will need to know what fonts all of you packages use
 so you do not delete any needed ones.  For myself, I have over 200 items
 listed on my Win7 laptop and over 500 font files in my .fonts folder on my
 Ubuntu desktop.



 On 02/25/2013 12:29 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 yikes  ;-(
 and the proper way for WIN7 would be ???  ;-)
 I was just about to check into finding more then plopping them in;
 now I'll wait for further instructions.

 yep ... I think this 'glorified typewriter' is making me 'feel
 stupider  stupider' ...



 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


  For the Windows users, and the Linux users, you really should use the
 font
 install procedures.

 For Windows, there should be a font listing in its Control Panel and a
 way
 to install fonts there.

 For Ubuntu users, all you have to do in click on the font and it should
 open the font installation window with the install button.  That way
 you
 can see the font before you install it.  I like that better than
 dumping
 the font into the hidden .fonts folder.  This is mostly the fonts you
 install after the fact and not ones installed by the OS.

 If you are never going to use any non-English language, then do this. . .

 Open LibreOffice and scroll down the list of fonts in the font drop-box
 in
 the formatting toolbar.

 Look at the fonts that have a name on the left and glyphs on the right.
   This will show for dinbats and icon based fonts.  ALSO it will show
 you
 glyphs for the non-English/non-Latin style of fonts.

 Think Arabic or an Asian language.

 At that point, write down all of the font names that have these fonts you
 do not want.  Then go to a package that has a font viewer and search for
 the fonts, if the is no file name that matches.  I have a bunch of fonts
 like that.

 To be honest, there are other places that hold the fonts for Ubuntu, so
 you will have to search for then.  BE CAREFUL not to remove any folders
 or
 delete them permanently since you might have removed a needed for for one
 of your packages.  My install of Ubuntu has many Middle Eastern and Asian
 fonts installed by default, even though I use English for my language.  I
 may remove most of them someday, but it will be a slow process so I do
 not
 make any mistakes.  If you use Ubuntu, use the Software Center and look
 at
 the font packages installed.  Then remove those that are not part of your
 language, like India or Arabic for English.




 On 02/23/2013 08:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Thanks!!!



 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Thank you for responding;
   but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

  the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

  I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ...
 and
 finding then dropping in the good ones;
   but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

  ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop
 them
 into whatever folder ...
   but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)


AAMOF=as a matter of fact

 You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that
 has
 a list of
 fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
 /usr/share:

 [doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
 total 184
 drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
 drwxr-xr-x   

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-25 Thread anne-ology
   yikes  ;-(
   and the proper way for WIN7 would be ???  ;-)
   I was just about to check into finding more then plopping them in;
now I'll wait for further instructions.

   yep ... I think this 'glorified typewriter' is making me 'feel
stupider  stupider' ...



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


 For the Windows users, and the Linux users, you really should use the font
 install procedures.

 For Windows, there should be a font listing in its Control Panel and a way
 to install fonts there.

 For Ubuntu users, all you have to do in click on the font and it should
 open the font installation window with the install button.  That way you
 can see the font before you install it.  I like that better than dumping
 the font into the hidden .fonts folder.  This is mostly the fonts you
 install after the fact and not ones installed by the OS.

 If you are never going to use any non-English language, then do this. . .

 Open LibreOffice and scroll down the list of fonts in the font drop-box in
 the formatting toolbar.

 Look at the fonts that have a name on the left and glyphs on the right.
  This will show for dinbats and icon based fonts.  ALSO it will show you
 glyphs for the non-English/non-Latin style of fonts.

 Think Arabic or an Asian language.

 At that point, write down all of the font names that have these fonts you
 do not want.  Then go to a package that has a font viewer and search for
 the fonts, if the is no file name that matches.  I have a bunch of fonts
 like that.

 To be honest, there are other places that hold the fonts for Ubuntu, so
 you will have to search for then.  BE CAREFUL not to remove any folders or
 delete them permanently since you might have removed a needed for for one
 of your packages.  My install of Ubuntu has many Middle Eastern and Asian
 fonts installed by default, even though I use English for my language.  I
 may remove most of them someday, but it will be a slow process so I do not
 make any mistakes.  If you use Ubuntu, use the Software Center and look at
 the font packages installed.  Then remove those that are not part of your
 language, like India or Arabic for English.




 On 02/23/2013 08:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Thanks!!!



 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

   On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Thank you for responding;
  but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

 the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

 I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ...
 and
 finding then dropping in the good ones;
  but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

 ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
 into whatever folder ...
  but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)


   AAMOF=as a matter of fact

 You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that
 has
 a list of
 fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
 /usr/share:

 [doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
 total 184
 drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/

 Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
 cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
 can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
 compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like €, ¢, ₤,
 ½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.

 I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
 told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
 or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
 professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
 remove the old font directory without having one at
 hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
 absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
 have said, all the programs on the system use the
 fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
 exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
 remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
 new fonts in with 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-24 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I think part of the problem is that LO does place fonts in a folder that 
is not the system's font folder.  So if the user has some DejaVu fonts 
already installed, LO may use its version of fonts over the ones the 
user installed.  Also there would be some fonts in the LO list that are 
not in the font list for any other package.


One problem may be that LO cannot install the fonts in the different 
distro's font folders.  Windows-based, DEB-based, RPM-based, Mac-based, 
systems all have different ways of installing fonts.  So it may be hard 
to get the font installation for each OS or distro of Linux to work 
properly.


Still, there are issues with package loading up a Windows systems with 
all the different fonts that they want and not the user choice of 
fonts.  Some packages require a specific font for their operation, and 
do not use the default system fonts.  That can be a problem for users 
to reduce the number of fonts in their font folder[s].  Ubuntu hides 
many fonts in their /usr/share/fonts/ folder system.  I see Type 1 fonts 
listed and I do not know why Ubuntu would need Type 1 fonts now that TTF 
and OTF fonts are the standard font format.  But, I will not remove 
them since they were installed for a reason.  The only installed fonts 
the system installed are the ones that were designed for Asian, India, 
and Arabic type of language fonts.


As for the closeness between versions of Windows, or Linux, it all 
depends on the desktop environment and where/how they store the system 
values.  Windows tends to change the placement of program and user 
data with every new version.  The only thing that seems to change 
between a Ubuntu or Debian based distro is the desktop environment.  For 
our windows users, that is the way the display show all of the needed 
items to do the work.  Think the visual differences between XP, Vista, 
Win7, and the pain of Win8. Think of how you use the Start Button or 
task bar items.  Linux has many different display types.  Ubuntu can 
have its display look many different ways.  My Ubuntu 12.04 can use the 
tile based Unity, or other desktop environments like KDE, MATE, 
Cinnamon, or a variety of others to change the look and feel of the 
desktop, making it look like different OSs, even though it is the same 
OS but different ways of seeing and using things.  I personally have 
Unity, KDE and MATE installed for my Ubuntu 12.04 system.



On 02/24/2013 03:22 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Win7 and Xp are so different from each other that each would qualify as 
a separate distro.  They are a bit like 2 distros from different families.  
It's not even as close as Mint or Ubuntu to Debian.

Errr, the answer was Win7 but i think that was given later in this thread.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 0:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of 
fonts?

   distro: the operating system on your computer (Windows, Linux, OS
X, etc.)
   AAMOF: as far as my other fonts
The latter is a guess but it seems logical. So, if you would tell us
one more time, what is your operating system. That will tell us the
location of your font folder or folders.

--Dan


On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

  Thank you for responding;
   but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

  the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

  I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
   but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

  ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
   but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the

ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the

operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread anne-ology
   I wish you well in finding an answer to your question re. fonts.

   I've been wondering re. a similar issue pertaining to fonts -
on this present computer, all the script-fonts seem to be
missing;
 I wish I knew how to retrieve these from the past since I
really liked using some of these.



On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Paddy Landau pa...@landau.ws wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
 operating
 system, or at least some of the fonts.

 I'll explain my problem.

 If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want (let's
 say
 it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2, or
 Ò). See screenshot 1:

 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png

 But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to Webdings,
 it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot 2:

 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png
 

 Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52 characters
 (A-Z and a-z) are correct.

 I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can search
 for
 characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use them in
 Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font Viewer,
 and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

 I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

 Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread anne-ology
   Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?



On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

 I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
 operating
 system, or at least some of the fonts.

 I'll explain my problem.

 If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want (let's
 say
 it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2, or
 Ò). See screenshot 1:

 http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
 n4039236/Character_Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png
 

 But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
 Webdings,
 it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot 2:

 http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
 characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png


 Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
 characters
 (A-Z and a-z) are correct.

 I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can search
 for
 characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use them
 in
 Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font Viewer,
 and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

 I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

 Thank you.




 My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
 /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/**fonts/truetype/

 They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others
 listed as well.

 I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
 hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





  I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was
 appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to find a
 good
 set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for example,
 Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
 once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS and
 replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
 Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

 --doug



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread Doug

On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?


As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:


I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
operating
system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want (let's
say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2, or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
n4039236/Character_Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png
But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot 2:

http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png


Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
characters
(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can search
for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use them
in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font Viewer,
and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.




My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
/opt/libreoffice4.0/share/**fonts/truetype/

They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others
listed as well.

I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





  I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was

appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to find a
good
set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for example,
Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS and
replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

--doug





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread anne-ology
   Thank you for responding;
but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

   the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

   I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

   ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

  As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
 ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
 available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
 just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
 the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
 whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
 and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
 True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

 --doug


 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

  I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
 operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

 I'll explain my problem.

 If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
 (let's
 say
 it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2,
 or
 Ò). See screenshot 1:

 http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**
 n4039236/Character_Map.pnghtt**p://nabble.documentfoundation.**
 org/file/n4039236/Character_**Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png
 

 But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
 Webdings,
 it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot
 2:

 http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**n4039236/**
 Libre_Office_**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
 characters.pnghttp://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
 n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png
 



 Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
 characters
 (A-Z and a-z) are correct.

 I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
 search
 for
 characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
 them
 in
 Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
 Viewer,
 and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

 I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

 Thank you.



  My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
 /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/


 They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others
 listed as well.

 I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
 hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





   I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was

 appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to find
 a
 good
 set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for example,
 Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
 once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS
 and
 replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
 Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

 --doug




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread Dan Lewis
 distro: the operating system on your computer (Windows, Linux, OS 
X, etc.)

 AAMOF: as far as my other fonts
The latter is a guess but it seems logical. So, if you would tell us 
one more time, what is your operating system. That will tell us the 
location of your font folder or folders.


--Dan


On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Thank you for responding;
 but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
 but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
 but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

  As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the

ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

  I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the

operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
(let's
say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2,
or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**
n4039236/Character_Map.pnghtt**p://nabble.documentfoundation.**
org/file/n4039236/Character_**Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png
But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot
2:

http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**n4039236/**
Libre_Office_**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
characters.pnghttp://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png


Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
characters
(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
search
for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
them
in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
Viewer,
and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.



  My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at

/opt/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/


They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others
listed as well.

I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





   I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was


appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to find
a
good
set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for example,
Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS
and
replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

--doug


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread Doug

On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Thank you for responding;
but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

   the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

   I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... 
and finding then dropping in the good ones;

but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

   ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop 
them into whatever folder ...
but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the 
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)




AAMOF=as a matter of fact

You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that 
has a list of

fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in /usr/share:

[doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
total 184
drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/

Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like EUR, ¢, ?,
½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.

I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
remove the old font directory without having one at
hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
have said, all the programs on the system use the
fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
new fonts in with the old, and you'll just have a bigger
list to choose from. I dumped it, because I thought the
existing ones in Mint were basically useless.
If you have a search routine in your email, search for ms,
I think that's the abbreviation the previous poster used,
when telling how to get Microsoft fonts. They're free, you
don't have to buy them.

Hope that helps.  --doug




On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net 
mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:


On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Then how does one get these new ones into the programs
for use?

As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug
dmcgarr...@optonline.net mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net
wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set
of fonts from the
operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a
character that I want (let's
say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings
font (Unicode 00d2, or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
http://documentfoundation.org/file/**

n4039236/Character_Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png


But when I use that character in Libre Office and
set the font to
Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an
in-box. See 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread anne-ology
   WIN7



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 distro: the operating system on your computer (Windows, Linux, OS X,
 etc.)
  AAMOF: as far as my other fonts
 The latter is a guess but it seems logical. So, if you would tell us one
 more time, what is your operating system. That will tell us the location of
 your font folder or folders.

 --Dan



 On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Thank you for responding;
  but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

 the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

 I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
 finding then dropping in the good ones;
  but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

 ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
 into whatever folder ...
  but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)



 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

  Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

   As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the

 ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
 available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
 just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
 the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
 whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
 and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
 True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

 --doug

  On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

  On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

   I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the

 operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

 I'll explain my problem.

 If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
 (let's
 say
 it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode
 00d2,
 or
 Ò). See screenshot 1:

 http://nabble.documentfound**ation.org/file/http://ation.org/file/**
 http://documentfoundation.**org/file/**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**
 
 n4039236/Character_Map.png**htt**p://nabble.**documentfoundation.**
 org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.pnghttp://nabble.**
 documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Character_Map.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png
 

 But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
 Webdings,
 it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See
 screenshot
 2:

 http://nabble.documentfound**ation.org/file/n4039236/**http://ation.org/file/**n4039236/**
 Libre_Office_**http://**documentfoundation.org/file/
 n4039236/Libre_Office_**http://documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
 
 characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/http://documentfoundation.org/file/**

 n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.pnghttp://nabble.**
 documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.pnghttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png
 


 Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
 characters
 (A-Z and a-z) are correct.

 I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
 search
 for
 characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
 them
 in
 Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
 Viewer,
 and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

 I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre
 Office
 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

 Thank you.



   My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at

 /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/**fonts/truetype/



 They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others
 listed as well.

 I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
 hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was

  appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to
 find
 a
 good
 set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for
 example,
 Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
 once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS
 and
 replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
 Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

 --doug




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread anne-ology
   Thanks!!!



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Thank you for responding;
 but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
 finding then dropping in the good ones;
 but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
 into whatever folder ...
 but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)


  AAMOF=as a matter of fact

 You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that has
 a list of
 fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
 /usr/share:

 [doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
 total 184
 drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/

 Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
 cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
 can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
 compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like €, ¢, ₤,
 ½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.

 I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
 told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
 or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
 professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
 remove the old font directory without having one at
 hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
 absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
 have said, all the programs on the system use the
 fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
 exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
 remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
 new fonts in with the old, and you'll just have a bigger
 list to choose from. I dumped it, because I thought the
 existing ones in Mint were basically useless.
 If you have a search routine in your email, search for ms,
 I think that's the abbreviation the previous poster used,
 when telling how to get Microsoft fonts. They're free, you
 don't have to buy them.

 Hope that helps.  --doug




 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

  On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

  As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
 ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
 available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
 just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
 the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
 whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
 and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
 True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

 --doug


 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

  On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

   I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
 operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

 I'll explain my problem.

 If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
 (let's
 say
 it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode
 00d2, or
 Ò). See screenshot 1:

  http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
 n4039236/Character_Map.png
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png


 But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
 Webdings,
 it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See
 screenshot 2:

  http://nabble.**
 documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**
 characters.png
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png




 Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
 characters
 (A-Z and a-z) are correct.

 I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
 search
 for
 characters in 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-23 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


For the Windows users, and the Linux users, you really should use the 
font install procedures.


For Windows, there should be a font listing in its Control Panel and a 
way to install fonts there.


For Ubuntu users, all you have to do in click on the font and it should 
open the font installation window with the install button.  That way 
you can see the font before you install it.  I like that better than 
dumping the font into the hidden .fonts folder.  This is mostly the 
fonts you install after the fact and not ones installed by the OS.


If you are never going to use any non-English language, then do this. . .

Open LibreOffice and scroll down the list of fonts in the font drop-box 
in the formatting toolbar.


Look at the fonts that have a name on the left and glyphs on the right.  
This will show for dinbats and icon based fonts.  ALSO it will show 
you glyphs for the non-English/non-Latin style of fonts.


Think Arabic or an Asian language.

At that point, write down all of the font names that have these fonts 
you do not want.  Then go to a package that has a font viewer and search 
for the fonts, if the is no file name that matches.  I have a bunch of 
fonts like that.


To be honest, there are other places that hold the fonts for Ubuntu, so 
you will have to search for then.  BE CAREFUL not to remove any folders 
or delete them permanently since you might have removed a needed for for 
one of your packages.  My install of Ubuntu has many Middle Eastern and 
Asian fonts installed by default, even though I use English for my 
language.  I may remove most of them someday, but it will be a slow 
process so I do not make any mistakes.  If you use Ubuntu, use the 
Software Center and look at the font packages installed.  Then remove 
those that are not part of your language, like India or Arabic for English.




On 02/23/2013 08:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Thanks!!!



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

  On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Thank you for responding;
 but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
 but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
 but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)


  AAMOF=as a matter of fact

You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that has
a list of
fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
/usr/share:

[doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
total 184
drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/

Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like €, ¢, ₤,
½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.

I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
remove the old font directory without having one at
hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
have said, all the programs on the system use the
fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
new fonts in with the old, and you'll just have a bigger
list to choose from. I dumped it, because I thought the
existing ones in Mint were basically useless.
If you have a search routine in your email, search for ms,
I think that's the abbreviation the previous poster used,
when telling how to get Microsoft fonts. They're free, you
don't have to buy them.

Hope that helps.  --doug




On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-21 Thread jowyta

Hi Paddy

Webdings is a M$ font, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings
and is not Unicode.

If you use Unicode characters, e.g. U+2708 for an aeroplane (✈) it 
should render consistently, substituting a character from a font that 
has it if the current font does not (if you have a suitable font installed).



On 21/02/13 17:01, Paddy Landau wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the operating
system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want (let's say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2, or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png

But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot 2:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png

Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52 characters
(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can search for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use them in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font Viewer,
and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-21 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the operating
system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want (let's say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2, or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png

But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot 2:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png

Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52 characters
(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can search for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use them in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font Viewer,
and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.





My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
/opt/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/

They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others 
listed as well.


I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/ 
hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

2013-02-21 Thread Doug

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:
I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the 
operating

system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want 
(let's say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 
00d2, or

Ò). See screenshot 1:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png

But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to 
Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See 
screenshot 2:


http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png 



Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52 
characters

(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can 
search for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use 
them in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font 
Viewer,

and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.





My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
/opt/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/

They are mostly DejaVu and Liberation fonts but there are others 
listed as well.


I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/ 
hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.






I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was 
appalled at the paucity of fonts. Liberation is ugly! You need to find 
a good
set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for 
example, Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS 
and replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from

Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

--doug

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