Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-16 7:45 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb
 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT)

 Really?  You had to repost the entire conversation, which is already
 preserved indelibly in the archive?
 
 A little context is fine (and a good idea), but *not* the whole conversation.
 
 Please.

Mr ZenWiz... this is precisely the kind of comment that can be
considered rude and condescending...

You can easily say essentially the same thing while still being nice...
try it, you might like it (I know everyone else will)...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-17 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Charles Marcus
cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 On 2011-02-16 7:45 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:
 Really?  You had to repost the entire conversation, which is already
 preserved indelibly in the archive?

 A little context is fine (and a good idea), but *not* the whole conversation.

 Please.

 Mr ZenWiz... this is precisely the kind of comment that can be
 considered rude and condescending...

Perhaps, but I see you got the point, and well done, thank you.

 You can easily say essentially the same thing while still being nice...
 try it, you might like it (I know everyone else will)...

I dunno - got a reputation to protect here, ya 'no'

:-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally.  It might have been 
triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is 
done by antivirus software.  People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is 
until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines.  Often they 
think Windows is the most robust and easiest!!  


One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux distro 
such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the 
distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used.

Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside 
Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small 
collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with 
tools that can help fix typical Windows problems.   LiveCd simply means a 
bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session.  

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term 
because habits are tough to break.  My favourite 3 are 


1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete with 
office apps and internet already.  This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick 
and 
i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work.  The problem with 
Live 
sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the machine 
unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive.  Anything saved to the 
desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten.  LiveCds are 
great for online banking.  Download links and other useful stuff can be found 
from DistroWatch
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd.  It doesn't have so much functionality out of 
the 
box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even if 
the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems.  It does have GPartEd, a 
text-editor, 
a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something 
like 
Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if 
Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet).  The LiveCd 
session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the 
desktop
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz

3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really 
exclusively for fixing Windows problems
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity
This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice 
menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, 
data-recovery, 
password reset, partition editor and stacks more.  It does have tools that are 
good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where 
it's real value is.

There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also 
disadvantages).  Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or Mandriva 
instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most famous 
and appears in the mainstream press.  Mint does have more multimedia already 
set-up.  Mandriva looks pretty.  Fedora explores new features and programs 
before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting.  


There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but 
SliTaz 
seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on older 
systems.  Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a LOT 
larger.  Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can be 
a 
good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro 
space-invaders game.  Again it is a lot larger.  Generally tiny distros like 
Puppy and TinyCore have a very different way of working but skills or programs 
learned with sliTaz or AntiX are useful elsewhere or if you already know 
Ubuntu's (or another's) command-line then sliTaz is about the same.  Also it's 
desktop is quite pretty.

Instead of Trinity many people prefer distros such as SystemRescue, Parted 
Magic, Gparted (an entire distro built around the program) or Knoppix but i 
tend 
to find all their tools and more are on the Trinity Cd.  So, i find Trinity is 
better when i need to go out to fix someone's machine.  It's not as famous and 
doesn't even appear in the top 100 at DistroWatch's front page
http://distrowatch.com/
but despite that it has reasonable forums.

So if i go out then 2 Cds and 1 usb-stick covers most of my options for using 
or 
fixing Windows machines but if i can only take 1 then i would take my Ubuntu 
usb-stick (not the LiveUsb one unless i wanted to install Ubuntu).  Having 
these 
things ready in advance is nice but they can always be made from another 
machine, which is where sliTaz is really useful.

Regards from
Tom :)







From: Cliff Scott 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15
 +0100
 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote:
 I just ran into a scary situation. 

 I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That
 system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 3.3 
 to
 compare OOo  LO and after that neither one would start. It was complaining
 about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive and 
 it
 ..
 A better place to install this file from is:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326922

 Becausel all other missing dependecy's of that file will also be
 re-installed.
 Luuk,

 Thanks for the link. I must be blind. I find a discussion of it, but no link
 from which to download the file(s). Can you point me to it?

 --
 Cliff

oops, sorry, wrong link

But when i try to find the correct one, i end up at:
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate
Which is the link to download windows updates...  O:-) :-[ :-\

But after some searching google reveald the correct link:  :-)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2displaylang=en
it was found when searching for:
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all.  That's why i gave summary info 
and 
background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime.  SliTaz would be the 
fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use.  Trinity is only 
useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed.

Regards from 
Tom :)




From: Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb
2011 09:56:28 + (GMT)

Hi Tom,

Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them.

Cliff

 Hi :)
 
 Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally.  It might have been 
 triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is 
 done by antivirus software.  People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows 
 is 

 until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines.  Often they 
 think Windows is the most robust and easiest!!  
 
 
 One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux 
 distro 

 such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the 
 distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used.
 
 Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside 
 Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small 
 collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with 
 tools that can help fix typical Windows problems.   LiveCd simply means a 
 bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session.  
 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
 Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term 
 because habits are tough to break.  My favourite 3 are 
 
 
 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete 
 with 

 office apps and internet already.  This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick 
and 

 i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work.  The problem with 
Live 

 sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the 
 machine 

 unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive.  Anything saved to the 
 desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten.  LiveCds 
 are 

 great for online banking.  Download links and other useful stuff can be found 
 from DistroWatch
 http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
 
 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd.  It doesn't have so much functionality out of 
the 

 box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even 
 if 

 the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems.  It does have GPartEd, a 
text-editor, 

 a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something 
like 

 Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if 
 Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet).  The LiveCd 
 session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the 
 desktop
 http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz
 
 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really 
 exclusively for fixing Windows problems
 http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity
 This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice 
 menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, 
data-recovery, 

 password reset, partition editor and stacks more.  It does have tools that 
 are 

 good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where 
 it's real value is.
 
 There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also 
 disadvantages).  Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or 
 Mandriva 

 instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most 
 famous 

 and appears in the mainstream press.  Mint does have more multimedia already 
 set-up.  Mandriva looks pretty.  Fedora explores new features and programs 
 before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting.  
 
 
 There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but 
SliTaz 

 seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on 
 older 

 systems.  Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a 
 LOT 

 larger.  Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can 
 be 
a 

 good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro 
 space-invaders game.  Again it is a lot larger.  Generally tiny distros like 
 Puppy and TinyCore have a very different way of working but skills or 
 programs 

 learned with sliTaz or AntiX are useful elsewhere or if you already know 
 Ubuntu's (or another's) command-line then sliTaz is about the same.  Also 
 it's 

 desktop is quite pretty.
 
 Instead of Trinity many people prefer distros such as SystemRescue, Parted 
 Magic

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb
2011 15:28:03 + (GMT)

Tom,

I didn't mean I would try them all, just consider what would be the best for
me. Thanks.

Cliff

 Hi :)
 
 Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all.  That's why i gave summary info 
 and 
 background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime.  SliTaz would be the 
 fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use.  Trinity is only 
 useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed.
 
 Regards from 
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 From: Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
 
 ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb
 2011 09:56:28 + (GMT)
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them.
 
 Cliff
 
  Hi :)
  
  Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally.  It might have been 
  triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or 
  is 
  done by antivirus software.  People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows 
  is 
 
  until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines.  Often they 
  think Windows is the most robust and easiest!!  
  
  
  One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux 
  distro 
 
  such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the 
  distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used.
  
  Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system 
  alongside 
  Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small 
  collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session 
  with 
  tools that can help fix typical Windows problems.   LiveCd simply means a 
  bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session.  
  
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
  Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic 
  term 
  because habits are tough to break.  My favourite 3 are 
  
  
  1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete 
  with 
 
  office apps and internet already.  This is the one i have as a 
  LiveUsb-stick 
 and 
 
  i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work.  The problem with 
 Live 
 
  sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the 
  machine 
 
  unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive.  Anything saved to 
  the 
  desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten.  LiveCds 
  are 
 
  great for online banking.  Download links and other useful stuff can be 
  found 
  from DistroWatch
  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
  
  2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd.  It doesn't have so much functionality out 
  of 
 the 
 
  box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd 
  even if 
 
  the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems.  It does have GPartEd, a 
 text-editor, 
 
  a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something 
 like 
 
  Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 
  if 
  Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet).  The LiveCd 
  session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the 
  desktop
  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz
  
  3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really 
  exclusively for fixing Windows problems
  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity
  This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a 
  nice 
  menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, 
 data-recovery, 
 
  password reset, partition editor and stacks more.  It does have tools that 
  are 
 
  good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is 
  where 
  it's real value is.
  
  There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but 
  also 
  disadvantages).  Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or 
  Mandriva 
 
  instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most 
  famous 
 
  and appears in the mainstream press.  Mint does have more multimedia 
  already 
  set-up.  Mandriva looks pretty.  Fedora explores new features and programs 
  before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting.  
  
  
  There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but 
 SliTaz 
 
  seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on 
  older 
 
  systems.  Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a 
  LOT 
 
  larger.  Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can 
  be 
 a 
 
  good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive 
  retro 
  space-invaders game.  Again it is a lot larger

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb
 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT)


Really?  You had to repost the entire conversation, which is already
preserved indelibly in the archive?

A little context is fine (and a good idea), but *not* the whole conversation.

Please.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:07
+0100

 On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote:
  ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 
  09:32:15
  +0100
  On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote:
  I just ran into a scary situation. 
 
  I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That
  system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 
  3.3 to
  compare OOo  LO and after that neither one would start. It was 
  complaining
  about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive 
  and it
  ..
  A better place to install this file from is:
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326922
 
  Becausel all other missing dependecy's of that file will also be
  re-installed.
  Luuk,
 
  Thanks for the link. I must be blind. I find a discussion of it, but no link
  from which to download the file(s). Can you point me to it?
 
  --
  Cliff
 
 oops, sorry, wrong link
 
 But when i try to find the correct one, i end up at:
 http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate
 Which is the link to download windows updates...  O:-) :-[ :-\
 
 But after some searching google reveald the correct link:  :-)
 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2displaylang=en
 it was found when searching for:
 Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)
 

Thanks Luuk. Got it. I suppose I should install it even if everything seems
ok just in case some other files got deleted at the same time.

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