Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
Hi :) 1st step is to get an OpenID. This link might help http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ The disadvantage of using OpenID is that people will have to already be registered at one of the sites that allow you to set-up an OpenID. Sadly askLO doesn't seem to be one of them yet so it means being registered elsewhere. The list in the link i just gave doesn't seem to be complete as i am sure i got one OpenID though registering at one of the Ubuntu forums ages ago, probably the http://www.ubuntuforums.com one. On the positive side you probably already have an OpenId and just didn't really notice that was what you were signing up for. The askLO makes it all look very confusing and in such cases i tend to find it well worth going upstream to the source of the problem and see if they make it easier or can be more helpful. Usually they tend to be very focused on the precise problem so it's easier for them to deal with any weird and unusual parts of the problem. In this case upstream is the http://openid.net website. if their instructions don't help they might have a community forum that might be able to help. However chances are that Drew can probably help as he is a tad brilliant. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 23/2/12, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah rmsl...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah rmsl...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 23 February, 2012, 4:51 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com Date sent: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:44:53 -0500 Of course now I;m confused - do you want to register at askLibO (in with case you need an OpenID ID - really that is not a lot to ask - if you can not find out how to do that without using Facebook on your own, just say so and I'll point to a few free, non-profit sites that offer those) _0r_ do you want to register at user.services.oo.o? Well, coming at it cold, I have no idea. All I know is that I went to the askLO, couldn't do anything in the way of asking, and got sent into the eternal and useless activation loop. The specifics of how that happened are lost in my browser history. Yes, you are correct: I did end up at the openoffice site eventually, but that was purely as a result of what it asked me to do in the way of registration. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, still dead. victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
Date sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:50:00 + (GMT) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Hah! That's just an attempt to get me to think you're not a bot: I know your tricks! :-) 1st step is to get an OpenID. This link might help http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ The disadvantage of using OpenID is that people will have to already be registered at one of the sites that allow you to set-up an OpenID. Sadly askLO doesn't seem to be one of them yet so it means being registered elsewhere. The list in the link i just gave doesn't seem to be complete as i am sure i got one OpenID though registering at one of the Ubuntu forums ages ago, probably the http://www.ubuntuforums.com one. Thank you. I'll have to have a look at that. On the positive side you probably already have an OpenId and just didn't really notice that was what you were signing up for. Possible, but not probable. As a security specialist, I tend to take a good look at what's happening :-) However chances are that Drew can probably help as he is a tad brilliant. All, helpful so far: thank you. (However, as much as I appreciate the help on my personal problem, my initial posting was, actually, in response to someone who said that the existence of askLO would help remove some of the noobies from the discussion on the mailing list. My point was that the askLO site is not quite as user friendly as it could be, and thus is not as likely to deal with that kind of issue ...) == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org A European says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with me?' An American says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?' - Terry Pratchett (author) victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 12:28 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:50:00 + (GMT) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Hah! That's just an attempt to get me to think you're not a bot: I know your tricks! :-) 1st step is to get an OpenID. This link might help http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ The disadvantage of using OpenID is that people will have to already be registered at one of the sites that allow you to set-up an OpenID. Sadly askLO doesn't seem to be one of them yet so it means being registered elsewhere. The list in the link i just gave doesn't seem to be complete as i am sure i got one OpenID though registering at one of the Ubuntu forums ages ago, probably the http://www.ubuntuforums.com one. Thank you. I'll have to have a look at that. Actually you openId will come from https://launchpad.net you may have gotten it at the forums, but that is the OpenID registrar for the site. But back to the issue at hand - @Rob did you try sending a message from the feedback link at the askLibO site? Any reply yet (though I suppose given the post here that is likely a no) Thanks //drew On the positive side you probably already have an OpenId and just didn't really notice that was what you were signing up for. Possible, but not probable. As a security specialist, I tend to take a good look at what's happening :-) However chances are that Drew can probably help as he is a tad brilliant. All, helpful so far: thank you. (However, as much as I appreciate the help on my personal problem, my initial posting was, actually, in response to someone who said that the existence of askLO would help remove some of the noobies from the discussion on the mailing list. My point was that the askLO site is not quite as user friendly as it could be, and thus is not as likely to deal with that kind of issue ...) == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org A European says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with me?' An American says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?' - Terry Pratchett (author) victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
From: drew d...@baseanswers.com Date sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:03:00 -0500 But back to the issue at hand - @Rob did you try sending a message from the feedback link at the askLibO site? Any reply yet (though I suppose given the post here that is likely a no) I would have if I could have found one, but none of the pages I saw had one. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org I walked until midnight in the storm, then I went home and took a sauna for an hour and a half. It was all clear. I listened to my heart and saw if there were any signs of my destiny in the sky, and there were none - there were just snowflakes. - Pierre Elliott Trudeau recounting a `walk in the snow' at a news conference announcing his resignation, Feb. 29, 1984 victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 14:49 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: From: drew d...@baseanswers.com Date sent:Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:03:00 -0500 But back to the issue at hand - @Rob did you try sending a message from the feedback link at the askLibO site? Any reply yet (though I suppose given the post here that is likely a no) I would have if I could have found one, but none of the pages I saw had one. thought I included it in an earlier email - perhaps not http://ask.libreoffice.org/feedback/?next=/questions/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
Hi :) I agree that the askBOT is initially off-putting and there is too much 'clutter' on the first few screens. For web-design there used to be a 30seconds and 3 clicks guideline. However people that have signed up for this mailing list have probably already broken through that at least once just to get here. The same amount of effort at askBOT looks as though it will yield far more. It looks as though it will probably be as configurable as http://www.linuxquestions.org which allows people to view threads with the most recent post at the top, or to set it so you can view them at the bottom. Your choice, well each persons choice = you don't set it for other people unless they let you login to their account. I guess that as a security consultant it is only possible that you already have an OpenID. For most users it's much more probable. I've heard that even people in China can use Google now, after all that fuss a few months ago, although that might only be a rumour. The other names listed on the http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ site are also quite widely used and there are even popular sites that are not listed. Drew, thanks :) https://launchpad.net does sound more likely given my fading memory of my 1st visit to the proprietary site http://www.ubuntuforums.com Good luck chaps, regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 23/2/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: From: drew d...@baseanswers.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 23 February, 2012, 21:03 On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 12:28 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:50:00 + (GMT) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Hah! That's just an attempt to get me to think you're not a bot: I know your tricks! :-) 1st step is to get an OpenID. This link might help http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ The disadvantage of using OpenID is that people will have to already be registered at one of the sites that allow you to set-up an OpenID. Sadly askLO doesn't seem to be one of them yet so it means being registered elsewhere. The list in the link i just gave doesn't seem to be complete as i am sure i got one OpenID though registering at one of the Ubuntu forums ages ago, probably the http://www.ubuntuforums.com one. Thank you. I'll have to have a look at that. Actually you openId will come from https://launchpad.net you may have gotten it at the forums, but that is the OpenID registrar for the site. But back to the issue at hand - @Rob did you try sending a message from the feedback link at the askLibO site? Any reply yet (though I suppose given the post here that is likely a no) Thanks //drew On the positive side you probably already have an OpenId and just didn't really notice that was what you were signing up for. Possible, but not probable. As a security specialist, I tend to take a good look at what's happening :-) However chances are that Drew can probably help as he is a tad brilliant. All, helpful so far: thank you. (However, as much as I appreciate the help on my personal problem, my initial posting was, actually, in response to someone who said that the existence of askLO would help remove some of the noobies from the discussion on the mailing list. My point was that the askLO site is not quite as user friendly as it could be, and thus is not as likely to deal with that kind of issue ...) == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org A European says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with me?' An American says, `I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?' - Terry Pratchett (author) victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 18:03 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:57:51 + From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com True, but unfortunately a sign of the times. Hopefully, this new 'askLO' service will become so popular Hmmm. Actually, unfortunate experience with that. I tried to register for the site. The system keeps saying it has sent a validation message, but it never comes. I have tried to get it to resend the activation message, via: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=resend_act and it always says it does/has, but no message ever shows up. (Yes, I do check my spam filters. It's not there, either.) Of course, I can't contact anyone without a validly registered ID. Sure you can - you just did. Of course now I;m confused - do you want to register at askLibO (in with case you need an OpenID ID - really that is not a lot to ask - if you can not find out how to do that without using Facebook on your own, just say so and I'll point to a few free, non-profit sites that offer those) _0r_ do you want to register at user.services.oo.o? Nor can I re- register: having tried it once, the system now knows that it has an entry for that email address, and so won't let it be reused. No, I do not particularly want askLO to be reading my Tweets or Facebook account. Any suggestions? Any way to contact the actual people at askLO? == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 18:03 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:57:51 + From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com True, but unfortunately a sign of the times. Hopefully, this new 'askLO' service will become so popular Hmmm. Actually, unfortunate experience with that. I tried to register for the site. The system keeps saying it has sent a validation message, but it never comes. I have tried to get it to resend the activation message, via: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=resend_act and it always says it does/has, but no message ever shows up. (Yes, I do check my spam filters. It's not there, either.) Ok just following up - checked at user.services.oo.o - there is no registered account at the site with the email address you used to send the original message here. (of course you may of used a different one) So - if it is the askLibO site 1 - you would of needed to do so with an OpenID ID 2 - as for how to contact that askLibO admins without being able to logon - I would use this address: http://ask.libreoffice.org/feedback/?next=/questions/ If you have further questions I would certainly be willing to work you on getting answers. Best wishes, //drew Of course, I can't contact anyone without a validly registered ID. Nor can I re- register: having tried it once, the system now knows that it has an entry for that email address, and so won't let it be reused. No, I do not particularly want askLO to be reading my Tweets or Facebook account. Any suggestions? Any way to contact the actual people at askLO? == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] askLO
From: drew d...@baseanswers.com Date sent: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:44:53 -0500 Of course now I;m confused - do you want to register at askLibO (in with case you need an OpenID ID - really that is not a lot to ask - if you can not find out how to do that without using Facebook on your own, just say so and I'll point to a few free, non-profit sites that offer those) _0r_ do you want to register at user.services.oo.o? Well, coming at it cold, I have no idea. All I know is that I went to the askLO, couldn't do anything in the way of asking, and got sent into the eternal and useless activation loop. The specifics of how that happened are lost in my browser history. Yes, you are correct: I did end up at the openoffice site eventually, but that was purely as a result of what it asked me to do in the way of registration. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, still dead. victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
