Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi James,

James wrote (29-08-11 20:16)

I'm having a bit of trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer.
It's a pretty simple test file.
The current page Field works the way I want but the page count Field is
not what I want.

http://lockie.ca/test/pageTest.odt.bz2


On the paragraph 'normal page' click Format  Paragraph, tab tex flow 
and set the page number there to 1.


Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/29/2011 02:16 PM, James wrote:


I'm having a bit of trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer.
It's a pretty simple test file.
The current page Field works the way I want but the page count Field 
is not what I want.


http://lockie.ca/test/pageTest.odt.bz2



looked at your file.

Try the following.

Format  Page  Footer
check the Footer On box

Then go to the first page footer with the footer page count.

Insert  Field
There you have Page-Number and Page-Count options.

That should help you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread James

On 08/29/11 15:39, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/29/2011 02:16 PM, James wrote:


I'm having a bit of trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer.
It's a pretty simple test file.
The current page Field works the way I want but the page count Field 
is not what I want.


http://lockie.ca/test/pageTest.odt.bz2



looked at your file.

Try the following.

Format  Page  Footer
check the Footer On box

Then go to the first page footer with the footer page count.

Insert  Field
There you have Page-Number and Page-Count options.

That should help you.


It's not that I can't make a footer.
I have the text
page  Field-Page-Number  of  Field-Page-Count
and it displays:
page 2 of 4

I want it to display 'page 2 of 2.

There are 3 physical pages but I set the starting page# to 1 on the 
FirstPage so I expect Page-Count to start from there.

There is no way it should even have Page-Count=4.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread James

On 08/29/11 15:02, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi James,

James wrote (29-08-11 20:16)

I'm having a bit of trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer.
It's a pretty simple test file.
The current page Field works the way I want but the page count Field is
not what I want.

http://lockie.ca/test/pageTest.odt.bz2


On the paragraph 'normal page' click Format  Paragraph, tab tex flow 
and set the page number there to 1.


Regards,


I must have done that wrong because it made Page-Count=5. :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.

On 30/08/11 8:14 AM, James wrote:

On 08/29/11 15:02, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi James,

James wrote (29-08-11 20:16)

I'm having a bit of trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer.
It's a pretty simple test file.
The current page Field works the way I want but the page count Field is
not what I want.

http://lockie.ca/test/pageTest.odt.bz2


On the paragraph 'normal page' click Format  Paragraph, tab tex flow 
and set the page number there to 1.


Regards,


I must have done that wrong because it made Page-Count=5. :-(
No, I think you did it right as I get page count = 5 also. LO just can't 
count.
I think what is required are some more statistics fields. Page Count is 
total pages, 4 was correct, 5 is definately wrong and so is 4 as there 
are only 3 pages. Thats a bug somewhere.

There needs also to be a Pages since last count restart or similar.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

James wrote (29-08-11 22:14)


On the paragraph 'normal page' click Format  Paragraph, tab tex flow
and set the page number there to 1.


I must have done that wrong because it made Page-Count=5. :-(


Oh, sorry. It was my mistake. I thought you wanted to tweak the page 
number, not the page count.

To change the page-count ... no idea.
I looked at that years ago, and think I ended up with using a reference 
to the page number of a bookmark .. Not ideal.


Sorry for the confusion,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Steve Edmonds wrote (29-08-11 22:26)

No, I think you did it right as I get page count = 5 also. LO just can't
count.
I think what is required are some more statistics fields. Page Count is
total pages, 4 was correct, 5 is definately wrong and so is 4 as there
are only 3 pages. Thats a bug somewhere.


No, Writer starts pages with a new page style as right page, odd 
numbered. And inserts the even as hidden. Can be shown though, and 
turned of with printing too.



There needs also to be a Pages since last count restart or similar.


And maybe some more. Indeed, not that handy.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:12 29/08/2011 -0400, James Lockie wrote:
There are 3 physical pages but I set the starting page# to 1 on the 
FirstPage so I expect Page-Count to start from there.  There is no 
way it should even have Page-Count=4.


At 08:26 30/08/2011 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:
LO just can't count.  [...]  Page Count is total pages, [...] 5 is 
definitely wrong and so is 4 as there are only 3 pages. That's a bug somewhere.


I can explain this bit, which LibreOffice will not see as a 
bug.  Writer considers that you may wish to print your document 
double-sided.  You have set your second page (first page) to be 
numbered 1, an odd number, and Writer decides that you will 
therefore want this to be a recto (or right-hand page), not the verso 
(or left-hand page) that it would otherwise be.  To achieve this, it 
notionally inserts a blank page between cover page and first 
page.  Including this blank page, you do indeed now have four pages, 
not three.


In editing mode, you do not see the blank page, and this may be 
confusing.  But you can see it in Page Preview.  You will want the 
page to print (as it were) if you are printing double-sided but not 
if you are printing single-sided.  You can control this at Tools | 
Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Other | Print automatically 
inserted blank pages.  Alternatively you can reach the same dialogue 
on the fly via the Options... button in the Print dialogue.


Oh, and I'm not advocating this arrangement, merely describing it.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] trouble with Page Styles and Fields in Writer

2011-08-29 Thread James

On 08/29/11 19:05, Brian Barker wrote:

At 16:12 29/08/2011 -0400, James Lockie wrote:
There are 3 physical pages but I set the starting page# to 1 on the 
FirstPage so I expect Page-Count to start from there.  There is no 
way it should even have Page-Count=4.


At 08:26 30/08/2011 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:
LO just can't count.  [...]  Page Count is total pages, [...] 5 is 
definitely wrong and so is 4 as there are only 3 pages. That's a bug 
somewhere.


I can explain this bit, which LibreOffice will not see as a bug.  
Writer considers that you may wish to print your document 
double-sided.  You have set your second page (first page) to be 
numbered 1, an odd number, and Writer decides that you will 
therefore want this to be a recto (or right-hand page), not the verso 
(or left-hand page) that it would otherwise be.  To achieve this, it 
notionally inserts a blank page between cover page and first 
page.  Including this blank page, you do indeed now have four pages, 
not three.

Is there any way to just have pages that are not right or left pages?


In editing mode, you do not see the blank page, and this may be confusing.
It is confusing because it's wrong behaviour, if it forces people to 
print it, then it should be visible in editing mode.



  But you can see it in Page Preview.  You will want the page to print 
(as it were) if you are printing double-sided but not if you are 
printing single-sided.  You can control this at Tools | Options... | 
LibreOffice Writer | Print | Other | Print automatically inserted 
blank pages.  Alternatively you can reach the same dialogue on the fly 
via the Options... button in the Print dialogue.


Oh, and I'm not advocating this arrangement, merely describing it.

Thanks.
Why do the developers assume something is always going to be printed or 
put on the web?

Maybe there should be a View-PDF Layout.


Brian Barker





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