[libreoffice-users] Suggestion for macro

2012-05-09 Thread muu.7oo

Hi all,
this is my first post so I want to congratulate for the project and the 
efforts given to it.


I'm writing a merge script for impress slide, based on some Basic code 
found on various forums.
It works but I find difficulties in handling the prompt asking to adapt 
the slides to the presentation where they are merged.

I want to macro-click Yes

I try handling it by an event from TopWindow but I can't get useful 
debug information (using MRI loops triggering window open and log to 
file is not useful either) so I'm stuck.


Can someone kindly suggest me a way to handle the click Yes or 
references to docs?


Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Luca

ps: some code follow

Sub doMerge()

'...

oList = createUnoListener(TopW_, 
com.sun.star.awt.XTopWindowListener)

oToolkit   = 
srcDoc.getCurrentController().getFrame().getContainerWindow().getToolkit()

oToolkit.addTopWindowListener(oList)

'...

End Sub

Sub TopW_windowOpened(e as Object)

On Error Goto ErrorHandler

oACWin = e.source.AccessibleContext

'mriLog(oACWin) '# this loop, I think
'wLog( oACWin.getAccessibleChild(0) )




oAC_Yes = oACWin.getAccessibleChild(0).AccessibleContext

oAC_No  = oAC.getAccessibleChild(1).AccessibleContext




oAC_Yes.doAccessibleAction(0)

ErrorHandler:

Exit Sub

'On Error GoTo 0

End Sub


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[libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tony Sumner
A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. 

I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.  OOo does have
the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.

Been good to know you

Tony

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: blog with great comparison table between LO and AOO

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think one of the key things missing in the history section is that between 
the LO's 3.3.0 release and Oracle's 3.4.0 release there had been tons of LO 
releases and LO merged with a large and significant OOo fork known as Go-oo, 
which was the 'OpenOffice' used in many distros.  While LO had already had many 
releases the 3.4.0 (beta) was Oracles first.  

The history makes it look like noting much happened in either project until the 
3.4.0 got released.  A by-product of that is that it makes it look as tho 
Oracle won the race to get a first release out after Buying-up Sun.

Perhaps it's just that the author was shy of claiming too much credit for LO.  
Afaik he  has been a significant driving force in the devs' community and the 
wider LO community.  
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: blog with great comparison table between LO 
and AOO
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 1:14


krackedpress wrote
 
 In his blog, Michael Weeks has as a great table comparison between LO 
 and Apache's OO.
 
 I would love to see something like this between LO and MSO.
 
 http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2012-04-26-ooo-comparison.html 
 lt;http://people.gnome.org/%7Emichael/blog/2012-04-26-ooo-comparison.html
 
Well, most of the points that look good for LibO do not matter, are a matter
of taste, may be even counter productive.
The OOXML output filters are a desaster. 
Many people complain about all the bundled stuff (dysfunctional report
builder, too many languages).
Most of the Calc differences can be seen as draw backs (I prefer OOo Calc
actually). 

There are plenty of comparisons between LO/OOo and MSO. The result depends
on the tester. If you compare LO with MSO the same way as Micheal compares
AOO with LO then MSO wins.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's good to hear about people experiences especially when kept neat and short 
but i doubt i told or instructed or tried to 'force' anyone to do anything.  

I might have suggested using newspapers or magazines to promote your project by 
inviting reporters to an event or to invite them to interview you about some 
aspect of your project. People generally think that to advertise their product 
they have to pay for advertisement space but the chances are that if you have a 
good news story then the press might be interested in writing a story about 
it.  It's cheaper and more likely to be readremembered.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote:

From: Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk
Subject: [libreoffice-users] My story
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 9:09

A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. 

I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.  OOo does have
the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.

Been good to know you

Tony

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring the images to page inside section.

2012-05-09 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
Hi Vit

On 09/05/2012 at 05:47, Vit vitr...@gmail.com wrote:

 1. Fix position relative to the text, moving with the text. Text should be
 on  the right or on the left of the picture. I can't achieve this using
 anchoring now. Example: http://dug.im/6ee14
 
 2. I want two different pictures positioned after the text in parallel at 
 right and at left and moving with it. Example: http://dug.im/6ee14
 
 3. I want the image on the separate page and moving with the text, which
 is  before the image. Example: http://dug.im/6ee14

Your example images are all the same. You may want to repost your message with 
corrected links.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello Tony,
Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works perfectly
well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under
either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of
discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting
to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector
on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC.
In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new
version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would
compile the connector myself.
I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using 
Lotus/Approach
before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the
administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts,
supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of
the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage
(www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there
doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore.
Regards from Salzburg
Heinrich

On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote:


A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine.

I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.  OOo does have
the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.

Been good to know you

Tony




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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Fernand Vanrie

On 09/05/2012 10:09, Tony Sumner wrote:

A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine.

I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.

Sorry, wrong: the Native MySQL connector works fine for at least Windows XP

  OOo does have
the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.

Been good to know you

Tony




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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Dan Lewis
 What could be the reason for this? One person can use the native
MySQL connector to connect in Windows but can not in Linux. Another
person use it to connect Linux but can not in Linux. Likely, the first
person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the
second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. This
connector is OS specific. Perhaps these two people should send each
other the version they have.
 On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for
all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there
is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping
this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed.

--Dan 
 
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello Tony,
 Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works 
 perfectly
 well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under
 either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of
 discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting
 to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector
 on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC.
 In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new
 version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would
 compile the connector myself.
 I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using 
 Lotus/Approach
 before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the
 administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts,
 supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of
 the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage
 (www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there
 doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore.
 Regards from Salzburg
 Heinrich
 
 On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote:
 
  A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine.
 
  I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
  manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
  users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
  working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
  admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
  I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
  After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
  driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
  that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
  settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
  or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
  directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
  worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.  OOo does have
  the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
  get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
  much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.
 
  Been good to know you
 
  Tony
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Good point!  Swapping the ones that do work and dropping the ones that don't 
sounds good.  

Ideally the Extensions site would have a table with LO version down the side 
and platform/OS along the top.  There would be a few holes but at least people 
would know which need to be updated or which version of LO to stick with.  I 
don't see the point in removing stuff that does work under the right 
conditions.  

From what i gather it 'only' needs someone using the relevant platform and 
relevant version of LO to compile the connector from source and the source is 
easily available.  The problem is that only.  I compiled something once but 
i didn't have a clue what i was doing and just followed instructions very 
closely.  Luckily the instructions were good and it worked.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 11:29

     What could be the reason for this? One person can use the native
MySQL connector to connect in Windows but can not in Linux. Another
person use it to connect Linux but can not in Windows. Likely, the first
person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the
second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. This
connector is OS specific. Perhaps these two people should send each
other the version they have.
     On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for
all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there
is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping
this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed.

--Dan 
     
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello Tony,
 Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works 
 perfectly
 well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under
 either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of
 discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting
 to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector
 on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC.
 In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new
 version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would
 compile the connector myself.
 I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using 
 Lotus/Approach
 before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the
 administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts,
 supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of
 the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage
 (www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there
 doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore.
 Regards from Salzburg
 Heinrich
 
 On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote:
 
  A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine.
 
  I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to
  manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic
  users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a
  working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the
  admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So
  I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector.
  After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a
  driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like
  that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before
  settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library
  or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL
  directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it
  worked. But this facility is not available in Windows.  OOo does have
  the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can
  get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty
  much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO.
 
  Been good to know you
 
  Tony
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: My story

2012-05-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/05/12 12:29, Dan Lewis a écrit :

Hi all,


  On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for
 all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there
 is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping
 this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed.
 

Yup, I pulled the plug - too much effort to maintain, too long to build
(at least on my workhorse Linux box), and too diverse a OS/bit
architecture scope, plus the fact that I had no hope of ever building it
for Windows.

The work to maintain is immense, and there are not enough people
willing, or simply able, to  build the connector against the stable
branch of LO, i.e. currently LO 3.5.x, and the future LO 3.6, in order
to test for incompatibilities that some of the new development features
might throw up.

Just building LO for Mac takes 4 hours on my OSX server when everything
goes smoothly. If for some reason the build fails, which it often does
when building from master, then it takes more than 12 hours.

On my Linux box, it systematically takes 2 days to complete the build.
I'm not prepared to mobilise my machine for that amount of time anymore,
because it essentially means I can't do anything else with it, and I
have other projects to engage in.

The situation will be even worse with the newly released AOOo 3.4,
unless someone starts building the connector, then it will start to no
longer work either. Apache can not build it within the confines of its
project for licensing reasons, and so it will have to rely on third
party volunteers doing those builds and providing the connector
separately. If the actual OOo mysql extension continues to work at all,
then it is sheer luck.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] math issues

2012-05-09 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Marc,

Marc Grober schrieb:



It is exact as described in the link: First Insert  Object  Formula.
Now you are in the formula editor. And then Tools  Import Formula.


Only if yo don't exit the equation editor before selecting
Tools-Import, which one might do in as much as the documentation does
not include those few precious words while the equation editor is
open, lol.

Now, as far as importing xml files,  I have never been successful at
importing mathml and must assume that this is accomplished through some
secret handshake as well ;-)
for example, an attempt to import test.xml which consisted of the following:

  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   !DOCTYPE math PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD MathML 2.0//EN
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/mathml2.dtd;
   math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
 mrow
   mia/mi
   mo#x2062;!--InvisibleTimes; --/mo
   msup
 mix/mi
 mn2/mn
   /msup
   mo+/mo
   mib/mi
   mo#x2062;!--InvisibleTimes; --/mo
   mix/mi
   mo+/mo
   mic/mi
 /mrow
   /math

was unsuccessful.


I had tested that very same example before I had answered. Besides the 
fact, that the character #x2062; is rendered wrong, the import is 
without problems.


So there must be some difference between my and your way. So next try 
with a step by step description:


Precondition: The MathML is saved as file on disk, for example mymath.xml.

1. Open a Writer document or use a new one. Set the cursor where the 
formula should be.


2. Insert  Object  Formula. Now the equation editor is open. The top 
menu has changed, a part of the writer document is shown, with a 
rectangle where the formula will be, and a command window with a 
blinking cursor exists.


4. Tools  Import Formula. You get a file picker. Choose your 
MathMl-file, here mymath.xml. Click on button 'Insert'.


5. Now you have the proper command in the command window. If something 
is wrong (for example the character #x2062; mentioned above), you can 
correct it.


6. Klick outside the formula into your Writer document. Finished.



An attempt to export similar code as writer xml was similarly
ineffective on import.


If you only want to convert a single formula to MathML and your formula 
is inside a Writer document, then right-click the formula. The context 
menu opens and the last item is Save as Use this and select 
MathML from the list of available file formats. You will get a single 
MathML file. It does not matter whether you use the file extension .mml 
or .xml.
Reimporting this file as described above, gives the same formula as 
exported, because the original LO formula is written to an annotation 
element and read when imported.
You should use grouping brackets to generate a well structured formula 
in LO, although LO does not need them to render the formula. It will 
give better results in export.


If you want to export the whole Writer document with an easy access to 
the MathML without unzipping, you can use File  Export  type XHTML, or 
File  Save as  type Flat XML.


Do you understand German? Than the German Handbuch für Math on 
http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ might give you some 
ideas.


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tony Sumner
On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote:

 Likely, the first
 person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the
 second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. 

Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the
Windows one.  The instructions for creating the driver are very simple
and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant 
diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do. 

Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must
have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise. 
In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that
if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it
now though. 

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get
it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get
the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is
much more complicated than it need be. 

Tony

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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Stanton
I have to put my hand up to the breakdown here too.
I was (am) hoping to build this connector but pressure of other work 
has got in the way for the moment.

I'll be back...
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hi Tony,

I have just installed LO 3.5.3 and the native connector worked immediately
out of the box on Windows/Vista. Regarding ODBC: yes, my experience tells me
-- don't use it under Linux. There are bugs such as not SHOWING default values
for columns (even though they are actually stored correctly). Reluctantly I am 
now
using JDBC, but it at least seems to work correctly (even if it is a bit slow!).

One thing that has also bothered me with Linux/LO/Base: every couple of
minutes performance becomes dreadful. The systems monitor shows high CPU-usage
of my 4-CPU, 2.4 GH PC then. Only when I then save the Base-file (*.odb) does
everything return to normal. I have set the automatic save interval to 60 
minutes,
but it seems to me that some action triggers the degradation. I haven't got
to the bottom of that as yet.

Regards,
H

On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:12:51 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote:


On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote:


Likely, the first
person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the
second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS.


Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the
Windows one.  The instructions for creating the driver are very simple
and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant
diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do.

Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must
have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise.
In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that
if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it
now though.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get
it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get
the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is
much more complicated than it need be.

Tony




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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If OOo works then sticking with it makes a lot of sense.  We are not really 
competing with them except in a reasonably friendly way.  There was a time when 
Oracle tried competing with us but that was just before they gave up and handed 
it off to a community organisation.  Now it's co-operative competition.  Some 
people still work in both projects.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 14:12

On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote:

 Likely, the first
 person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the
 second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. 

Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the
Windows one.  The instructions for creating the driver are very simple
and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant 
diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do. 

Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must
have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise. 
In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that
if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it
now though. 

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get
it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get
the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is
much more complicated than it need be. 

Tony

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Re: [libreoffice-users] math issues

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It probably doesn't get quite so far into it but the official Math Guide is 
ready
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Math_Guide

The docs team have done an amazing amount in the last couple of weeks.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] math issues
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 13:17

Hi Marc,

Marc Grober schrieb:
 
 It is exact as described in the link: First Insert  Object  Formula.
 Now you are in the formula editor. And then Tools  Import Formula.
 
 Only if yo don't exit the equation editor before selecting
 Tools-Import, which one might do in as much as the documentation does
 not include those few precious words while the equation editor is
 open, lol.
 
 Now, as far as importing xml files,  I have never been successful at
 importing mathml and must assume that this is accomplished through some
 secret handshake as well ;-)
 for example, an attempt to import test.xml which consisted of the following:
 
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
    !DOCTYPE math PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD MathML 2.0//EN
             http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/mathml2.dtd;
    math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
      mrow
        mia/mi
        mo#x2062;!--InvisibleTimes; --/mo
        msup
          mix/mi
          mn2/mn
        /msup
        mo+/mo
        mib/mi
        mo#x2062;!--InvisibleTimes; --/mo
        mix/mi
        mo+/mo
        mic/mi
      /mrow
    /math
 
 was unsuccessful.

I had tested that very same example before I had answered. Besides the fact, 
that the character #x2062; is rendered wrong, the import is without problems.

So there must be some difference between my and your way. So next try with a 
step by step description:

Precondition: The MathML is saved as file on disk, for example mymath.xml.

1. Open a Writer document or use a new one. Set the cursor where the formula 
should be.

2. Insert  Object  Formula. Now the equation editor is open. The top menu has 
changed, a part of the writer document is shown, with a rectangle where the 
formula will be, and a command window with a blinking cursor exists.

4. Tools  Import Formula. You get a file picker. Choose your MathMl-file, here 
mymath.xml. Click on button 'Insert'.

5. Now you have the proper command in the command window. If something is wrong 
(for example the character #x2062; mentioned above), you can correct it.

6. Klick outside the formula into your Writer document. Finished.

 
 An attempt to export similar code as writer xml was similarly
 ineffective on import.

If you only want to convert a single formula to MathML and your formula is 
inside a Writer document, then right-click the formula. The context menu opens 
and the last item is Save as Use this and select MathML from the list 
of available file formats. You will get a single MathML file. It does not 
matter whether you use the file extension .mml or .xml.
Reimporting this file as described above, gives the same formula as exported, 
because the original LO formula is written to an annotation element and read 
when imported.
You should use grouping brackets to generate a well structured formula in LO, 
although LO does not need them to render the formula. It will give better 
results in export.

If you want to export the whole Writer document with an easy access to the 
MathML without unzipping, you can use File  Export  type XHTML, or File  
Save as  type Flat XML.

Do you understand German? Than the German Handbuch für Math on 
http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ might give you some ideas.

Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Queries wizard in Base

2012-05-09 Thread Alexandria Long
On 03/03/2012 10:20 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 16:23 +0100, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 03.03.2012 16:09, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
  I do have Java installed. By the way, it worked fine while I was still
  using Open Office.
 

 It works with all versions of OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice 3.3.x and it
 broke unnoticed somewhere in the development process of LibreOffice 3.4.
 The other 2 methods to create a query still work fine. The wizard did
 not add anything that could not be done in the designer.

 It works for LO 3.4.5 downloaded from the LO website. Looks like
 someone managed to fix it for one version before breaking it again for
 3.5.0.
 And I would not say that the query wizard is worthless, just
 limited in what it can accomplish. Uses: for a simple query, and as a
 teacher of what is needed when creating a query.
 Before someone disagrees with me, I have long used the table design
 dialog, and the query design dialog in place of the table and query
 wizards, resp.
 ...
 Works in:
 LibreOffice 3.5.1.1
 Build ID: 45a2874-aa8c38d-dff3b9c-def3dbd-62463c8

Hello,

I recently installed LibreOffice 3 and updated to version 3.5.3.2,
Build ID: 235ab8a-3802056-4a8fed3-2d66ea8-e241b80, yesterday.
I created a new database yesterday before the update, so I don't
know if this issue was there beforehand, but when I tried to use
the Queries Wizard or Forms Wizard, nothing happens. This is
the Mac version, and I'm on Mac OS X 10.5. Is this an issue for
Mac? I'm not sure if I've done anything wrong. I did have a
portable version of LibreOffice prior to just installing it to the
drive. Could the old data associated with the portable version
corrupt the new version?

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[libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts for changing text size

2012-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
I tried setting keyboard shortcuts for increasing and decreasing text
size. I set Control++ as Increase Font. I did not see a corresponding
Decrease Font option to set for Control+-. However, pressing Control++
does not increase the size of the text, neither if text is selected
nor if it is not. The Text Size selector does not change.

LibreOffice 3.5.3.2, Kubuntu Linux 11.10. Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] math issues

2012-05-09 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Tom,
Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
It probably doesn't get quite so far into it but the official Math Guide is 
ready
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Math_Guide

The docs team have done an amazing amount in the last couple of weeks.
Regards from
Tom :)


We (German group) too. The English Guide has no section on Import and 
Export. That section is new in the German Guide (and some other parts). 
For LO 3.5 or 3.6 it is worth to look at the German Guide and if you 
find it useful, translate it to English.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Oh!  I thought once you had built one connector for one set of circumstances 
then it would keep working.  So a connector built for LO 3.4.5 on Xp would keep 
working for anyone that used XP and stuck to LO 3.4.5, and with luck it might 
work for LO 3.4.6 too although it would be unlikely to work for any other 
branch.  

If it's likely to stop working or probably wont work on a similar system then 
it sounds like a nightmare.  
Regards from
Tom :)




--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: My story
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 12:32

Le 09/05/12 12:29, Dan Lewis a écrit :

Hi all,


      On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for
 all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there
 is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping
 this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed.
 

Yup, I pulled the plug - too much effort to maintain, too long to build
(at least on my workhorse Linux box), and too diverse a OS/bit
architecture scope, plus the fact that I had no hope of ever building it
for Windows.

The work to maintain is immense, and there are not enough people
willing, or simply able, to  build the connector against the stable
branch of LO, i.e. currently LO 3.5.x, and the future LO 3.6, in order
to test for incompatibilities that some of the new development features
might throw up.

Just building LO for Mac takes 4 hours on my OSX server when everything
goes smoothly. If for some reason the build fails, which it often does
when building from master, then it takes more than 12 hours.

On my Linux box, it systematically takes 2 days to complete the build.
I'm not prepared to mobilise my machine for that amount of time anymore,
because it essentially means I can't do anything else with it, and I
have other projects to engage in.

The situation will be even worse with the newly released AOOo 3.4,
unless someone starts building the connector, then it will start to no
longer work either. Apache can not build it within the confines of its
project for licensing reasons, and so it will have to rely on third
party volunteers doing those builds and providing the connector
separately. If the actual OOo mysql extension continues to work at all,
then it is sheer luck.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If it's going to take hours to build it and if it's likely to need to be 
re-done often then i think it would be better to focus your efforts elsewhere, 
like making the instructions easier to understand?  They probably are good 
already with nice coding brackets so people can just copypaste command-line 
stuff without ever understanding what they are doing.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 15:17

I have to put my hand up to the breakdown here too.
I was (am) hoping to build this connector but pressure of other work 
has got in the way for the moment.

I'll be back...
Mark Stanton
One small step for mankind...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] math issues

2012-05-09 Thread Marc Grober

This was one reason I wanted to assist in working on docs,  but the
curve one needed to address in order to do that proved just too much. A
far cry from experience working on wiki based documentation.

What often is a problem in such areas is that those used to doing
something in a particular manner don't really understand where another
user may be coming from. When I talk of Math being universal and
transparent I mean that a user should not have to be bothered with
issues of entering and displaying Math.

Another issue is context - the cause for the start of this thread is one
example. A second is Regina's e-mail suggesting that I do a Save As -
Flat XML though I have no such option in my save as dialog. As far as
exporting as xhtml, I  have 4 different export to xhtml options (it took
me a while to figure out which one to use to obtain.)  But,  if I do
export as xhtml the LO default gives me an html doc that appears to be
an mathml xml document, which if I then try to import as a formula will
not work (though it appears to be identical to the file that does work),
even if I change the extension to mml or xml.  I have tried checking
format to make sure it is plain text etc.

SO,  if a tool can't be used simply and effectively,  it won't be used.
And, of course, it works for me doesn't help. Typically the key to goo
documentation is identifying where users go off the rails  I started
playing with this some 5 years ago because a fellow teacher wanted to be
able to mock up his math assignments in OOo and then convey them to the
web, without the math getting turned into images that had to be
separately maintained.  I don't know that things would be any easier now
for him...

On 5/9/12 8:02 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:
 Hi Tom,
 Tom Davies schrieb:
 Hi :)
 It probably doesn't get quite so far into it but the official Math
 Guide is ready
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Math_Guide


 The docs team have done an amazing amount in the last couple of weeks.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 We (German group) too. The English Guide has no section on Import and
 Export. That section is new in the German Guide (and some other parts).
 For LO 3.5 or 3.6 it is worth to look at the German Guide and if you
 find it useful, translate it to English.
 
 Kind regards
 Regina
 


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[libreoffice-users] Change help font

2012-05-09 Thread Carlos Pita
Hi all,

the fonts in the help screen are looking really awful for me. I know
that you can adjust their size changing the html documents zoom level.
But I would like to change the font itself. I've been playing a bit
with font substitutions to no avail.  Is it possible?

Thanks a lot
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[libreoffice-users] Formulas...

2012-05-09 Thread Zed
It is so long since I used the Formula I'm looking for that I have forgotten
what it is.  Here is my problem

I have a column, say, D4 in which I have a constant figure, say, 100

Another column E10 , let's call it Production, contains a figure of, say, 79

I can establish that 79 is 79% of actual production by entering the formula
=E10/D4 and then Formatting the expression to Percentage.  But I cannot
remember the formula to copy E10 down so that D4 is the constant.

I have tried E/10/D4, E10/$D4, $E10/D4, $E10/$D4  and then Filled Down
without obtaining the correct answer.

If anyone on the list is able to help me, I'd be most gratefu,


Zed
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas...

2012-05-09 Thread Marc Grober
D4 and E10 are cells not columns
as a result it is unclear what you mean by copy E10 down so that D4 is
the constant.  What exactly are yo trying to accomplish?

On 5/9/12 3:03 PM, Zed wrote:
 It is so long since I used the Formula I'm looking for that I have forgotten
 what it is.  Here is my problem
 
 I have a column, say, D4 in which I have a constant figure, say, 100
 
 Another column E10 , let's call it Production, contains a figure of, say, 79
 
 I can establish that 79 is 79% of actual production by entering the formula
 =E10/D4 and then Formatting the expression to Percentage.  But I cannot
 remember the formula to copy E10 down so that D4 is the constant.
 
 I have tried E/10/D4, E10/$D4, $E10/D4, $E10/$D4  and then Filled Down
 without obtaining the correct answer.
 
 If anyone on the list is able to help me, I'd be most gratefu,
 
 
 Zed
 Desk - A very large wastebasket with drawers.   
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas...

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Do you need both parts of D$ to stay fixed? $D keeps the D part fixed and then 
$4 keeps the 4 part fixed so you need

=E10/$D$4

(I think)
Regards from
Tom :) 


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From: Zed z...@zed.net.nz
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Formulas...
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 10 May, 2012, 0:03

It is so long since I used the Formula I'm looking for that I have forgotten
what it is.  Here is my problem

I have a column, say, D4 in which I have a constant figure, say, 100

Another column E10 , let's call it Production, contains a figure of, say, 79

I can establish that 79 is 79% of actual production by entering the formula
=E10/D4 and then Formatting the expression to Percentage.  But I cannot
remember the formula to copy E10 down so that D4 is the constant.

I have tried E/10/D4, E10/$D4, $E10/D4, $E10/$D4  and then Filled Down
without obtaining the correct answer.

If anyone on the list is able to help me, I'd be most gratefu,


Zed
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas...

2012-05-09 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
Hi Zed

I believe you are looking for
=E10/$D$10
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

2012-05-09 Thread The Wolfkin
.docx is rapidly becoming my new most annoying default. Though it will
likely never trump hide file extensions by default or even Hide My
Computer/My Documents from desktop by default

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On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 I also tend to tell them to send out .doc instead of .docx files, since
 there are still a large percentage of people/agencies that never bought any
 newer version of MSO than 2003.  Also I tell them that MSO 2010 .docx files
 can have issues if you open them in MSO 2007.  So they should stick with
 .doc files instead.  MSO just keep on messing with their file formats and
 those new version are not completely compatible with their older MSO
 versions that could read those formats [by mime name].



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[libreoffice-users] Freezing a cell in Calc permanently

2012-05-09 Thread The Wolfkin
When you freeze a row or column in Calc

http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Freezing_Rows_or_Columns_as_Headers

is there a way to save that as a permanent state? I've tried freezing and
after a few minutes I managed to get it to work but when I save and close
the file it opens again unfrozen.

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[libreoffice-users] Cal default print settings (and general default settings)

2012-05-09 Thread The Wolfkin
another quick one. by default Calc doesn't print the grid or column/row
headers. For everyone for whom I suggest LibreOffice this is a huge
problem. Is there a way to change settings by default?

Speaking of default settings.. on a slightly more off topic. Is there a
way, for instance write a small script, to save a series of settings? When
I install LibreOffice on someone's computer I got thru a the same series of
steps to ensure the smoothest transition. This includes things like
changing the default file saving format. Perhaps turning the autocorrect
off (oddly most of the people I know would be grateful to remove the
squiggle they've just never known it was an option before), and stuff like
that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Freezing a cell in Calc permanently

2012-05-09 Thread Dan Lewis
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 20:47 -0400, The Wolfkin wrote:
 When you freeze a row or column in Calc
 
 http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Freezing_Rows_or_Columns_as_Headers
 
 is there a way to save that as a permanent state? I've tried freezing and
 after a few minutes I managed to get it to work but when I save and close
 the file it opens again unfrozen.
 
 -- 
 Wolfkin
 http://about.me/wolfkin

  Then we need more information about your set up: operating system?
version of LO? 32 bit or 64 bit? Is the spreadsheet an Excel workbook?
How many sheets do you have in the file? How many of these sheets have
the rows or columns frozen?
 Something is different about your setup that is causing this
because you are not getting the standard results.
 For the last 8 years or perhaps more, a Calc (originally .sxc;
now .ods) spreadsheet would preserve the Window  Freeze when the file
was saved.

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Freezing a cell in Calc permanently

2012-05-09 Thread The Wolfkin
Well my mom just sent me a spreadsheet she's doing. Created on her MacBook
10.5 i think. Should be the latest version of LO.

I was working on my Win7 64bit Dell computer here. Ver 3.4.4. These were
.ods files. Simple simple stuff here.. Only using one (of three default)
sheet. Less than 100 rows, trying to freeze the top row.

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:


   Then we need more information about your set up: operating system?
 version of LO? 32 bit or 64 bit? Is the spreadsheet an Excel workbook?
 How many sheets do you have in the file? How many of these sheets have
 the rows or columns frozen?
 Something is different about your setup that is causing this
 because you are not getting the standard results.
 For the last 8 years or perhaps more, a Calc (originally .sxc;
 now .ods) spreadsheet would preserve the Window  Freeze when the file
 was saved.

 --Dan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Templates Disappeared

2012-05-09 Thread Keith Bates

On 04/05/12 17:09, Keith Bates wrote:
Thanks Dan. I'm away from home for a few days, but I'll give it a go 
when I return


Keith

On 03/05/12 05:12, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 11:16 +1000, Keith Bates wrote:

With the new release of Ubuntu last week I received a new release of LO
3.5.2.2

For some reason, my templates are no longer accessible. The files are
present in a folder that is referenced in the Tools-Options-Paths -
all unchanged since the previous version of 3.4. When I try to access
the templates through the organise templates feature, there are no
templates. I also get an error message templates already exists-
presumably a reference to the folder templates rather than really bad
English. This error message also comes up when I open an existing 
document.


When I try to start a new document using a template I get this message:

Error creating a new document; templates already exists.

I've checked paths and permissions and I can't see what is wrong.


  The problem arises from a change in where the templates are
located: LO 3.5 stores them in a different location
(.config/libreoffice/3/user/template) than 3.4
(.libreoffice/3/user/template).
  Suggestion: use the organise templates feature again. If you use
My Templates as the folders for your templates, highlight it. The click
the Command button and select Update. Perhaps this will cause your
templates to appear.
  If this does not work, copy your templates contained
in .libreoffice/3/user/template to .config/libreoffice/3/user/template.
Then organise your templates, highlight the My Template folder, click
the Command button, and select Update from the drop down menu. The
templates should appear.
  I used this process to add multiple templates to My Templates, and
it saves time compared to importing one template at a time.

--Dan



I tried what Dan suggested but it doesn't work :(

I don't even have a My Templates folder in the template organiser 
wizard thing. I know it was there in 3.4 but it's no longer there.


I copied the template files to .config/libreoffice/3/user/template then 
clicked the Commands button and Update but then got several templates 
already exists messages and one Update could not be completed error.


I've removed all folders from the templates path except the default 
(/usr/lib/ something) and then added.config/libreoffice/3/user/template 
and set it as the default for adding new templates.


I'm wondering if there is a glitch in the Ubuntu update.

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the Truth and the Life


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[libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles for list styles

2012-05-09 Thread Carlos Pita
Hi all,

I find this description in the documentation very misleading:


Each of the list styles predefined in Writer has four associated
paragraph styles. For example, the
Numbering 1 list style is associated with four paragraph styles:
Numbering 1
Numbering 1 Cont.
Numbering 1 End
Numbering 1 Start


In what sense list style Numbering 1 is related to paragraph styles
Numbering 1 *? What one can see is that the N in paragraph styles
Numbering N * is related to indentation level and not intended for
working in tandem with the list style Numbering N. One can use
paragraph style Numbering 1 with any of the list styles, because
concerns seem to be completely orthogonal.

Can you clarify the relationship between paragraph styles Numbering N
* and list style Numbering N?

What scenarios are paragraph styles Numbering N * and List N * intended for?

Thank you a lot
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas...

2012-05-09 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/5/10 Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl:
 Hi Zed

 I believe you are looking for
 =E10/$D$10

Or rather =E10/$D$4…

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring the images to page inside section.

2012-05-09 Thread Vit

I'm very sorry for the images. Here are the examples.

1. Fix position relative to the text, moving with the text. Text should be
on  the right or on the left of the picture. I can't achieve this using
anchoring now. Example: http://dug.im/d7682

2. I want two different pictures positioned after the text in parallel at
right and at left and moving with it. Example: http://dug.im/87bb8

3. I want the image on the separate page and moving with the text before it, 
which
is  before the image. Example: http://dug.im/6c379

I don't know an easy way to realise any of this situations.

The most complicated and topmost wanted by me is positioning the image on the 
top-right (bottom-right, bottom-left) corner of the page and moving with the 
text it is anchored to (but no overlapping with other images positioned to that 
corner, which are anchored to another text and accidentally are located at the 
same page). This will look like 1, but the images should be always in the 
corner regadrless of exact position the text they are anchored to, and if there 
are images on the same position on the page they mustn't overlap.

With best regards,
Vit

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