Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-30 Thread Milan P. Stanic
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote:
 I know this is discussed many times in many lists but they like to make a 
 change 
 instead Kannel :)

Moderators of these lists have a lot uninformed subscribers, IMHO.

 Moderator (I don't know whois the moderator of this list) only need to change 
 it 
 then every one happy, no need to call every one to use you suggested mail 
 client.

What change you want to propose? Reply-To field?
 
 Why the moderator hard to change it? Will it hurt the moderator?

It will hurt proper mode of the list.
Yahoo mail client is broken. Complain to them.

Please read following URL:

http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html

and docs to which it points.
 
 Milan, let's make thing simple, let's make Kannel list runs on every mail 
 clients.

If it runs on every mail clients including every _broken_ mail client
that means it will not run on any mail client.
When you say every mail client you think your mail client. If
moderator set Reply-To header, sooner or later someone will complain
that it does not work with their mail client.
 
 Regards, Wendy
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 5:04:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
  
  On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 17:17, Wendy William wrote:
   You can set how this  mailing list works, just set it. You don't need 
 complain to 
 
   Yahoo  mail.
  
  I don't complain to Yahoo mail. I don't use it for  mail.
  
   I believe the moderator of this mailing list can do it, if not  then we 
   can 
 help 
 
   to set it.
  
  You can create mailing list and set  it however you want.
  
   I see moderator of Xen, CentOS, and others  already follow this, why not 
 Kannel?
  
  This is discussed many times (as I  said in previous mail) and mailing
  list moderator decided to set it to  proper mode.
  
   Regards, Wendy
   
   
   
   
   - Original Message 
From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Mon,  August 29, 2011 1:54:43 PM
Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?

On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy  William wrote:
 I'am using Yahoo  webmail and   ofcourse not only me use Yahoo 
 webmail :)

Then  you  should complain to the Yahoo and not this list.

 If all the people of the  world use improper Yahoo mail (or any  other)
software for mailing list which  cannot handle such  simple option, that
will not make it proper. It does not   work. Period.

But, this question is discussed many  times in this list and  I think we
should terminate this  useless thread. :)

   Regards, Wendy
  
 
 - Original Message  
   From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent:  Sun,  August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
  
   On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy  William wrote:
I got this complain  :)
   
--
Next  time,  always  copy the  users list.
   
 
==  Rene
 --
Current Kannel mailing  settings  caused:
1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1  from Rene and 1 form 
 kannel.org
2. I must click   Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send 
  to 
 Rene
   3.  Wasting time,  wasting  bandwidth
   4. How do I filter mail  from Rene to  be deleted  because I have 
   got 
 same 
 
   
  email 
 
   from kannel behind  Rene (also other  users)  ?
   
So, I hope the moderator change the  mailing list   setting to 
avoid 
 this 
 
   
 complain, 
   
   please ...
  
  It would be better  to  use e-mail client  which know how to reply 
  to
  mailing list.  And not  only you  but most of the people subscribed 
  to
   this  list.
  
Regards,  Wendy
   
   
   
   
 - Original Message  
 From: Milan P. Stanic  m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent:  Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
 
 Hi  Juan,

 On  Sun,  2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
  Milan, I   don't  take it as an offense at all, not  sure 
  what 
 you
  understood  with  my  reply, but it was not directed to you  
   at 
 all, 
 
was
  directed to Wendy theoriginal poster  :)

   Sorry for my bad English.
 
I  didn't want  to  say  that you offended me. I put no 
offense  
 tag 
 
   to
 tell that  I  don't want

Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-29 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote:
 I'am using Yahoo webmail and  ofcourse not only me use Yahoo webmail :)

Then you should complain to the Yahoo and not this list.

If all the people of the world use improper Yahoo mail (or any other)
software for mailing list which cannot handle such simple option, that
will not make it proper. It does not work. Period.

But, this question is discussed many times in this list and I think we
should terminate this useless thread. :)

  Regards, Wendy
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
  
  On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy William wrote:
   I got this complain  :)
   
   --
Next time, always  copy the  users list.
   

== Rene
--
   Current Kannel mailing settings  caused:
   1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1 from Rene and 1 form kannel.org
   2. I must click  Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to Rene
   3. Wasting time,  wasting bandwidth
   4. How do I filter mail from Rene to be deleted  because I have got same 
 email 
 
   from kannel behind Rene (also other  users) ?
   
   So, I hope the moderator change the mailing list  setting to avoid this 
 complain, 
 
   please ...
  
  It would be better to  use e-mail client which know how to reply to
  mailing list. And not only you  but most of the people subscribed to
  this list.
  
   Regards,  Wendy
   
   
   
   
   - Original Message  
From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?

Hi Juan,

On  Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
 Milan, I  don't  take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
 understood  with my  reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was
  directed to Wendy the  original poster  :)

 Sorry for my bad English.

I didn't want  to  say that you offended me. I put no offense tag to
tell that  I  don't want to offend you. :)

 On 8/21/11  3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21  at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
  The good or not  good depends on each person...
 Well,  yes. There is  proper also.
 
 There's always  debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, where
  some people claim one  way is the correct or better one, and  
 some
 people claim it's  the other one, and each  of them have their good
 reasons...  Search on  google and you'll find tons of topics on this
  matter,  and you will be able to see the different opinions about  
 it.
 no  offense
 I'm  subscribed to different mailing lists for more than  fifteen 
 years
  and I don't have to search google about that subject,   IMHO.
 /no offense
 
  At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the list  owners, and 
 I'm
 sure that  they have already  thought about this and that they won't
 change   their mind.   :)
 Agreed. But, when some random user  ask how to  reply canonical 
 way I
 don't think it is  rude to tell about reply  to list option if MUA
  support that.
 
   Regards.
 
 
  On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William wrote:
  When I do reply any Kannel mail  then To field  filled by 
   sender, 
 not 
 
   by
 users@kannel.org. This is not good since  we  must use Reply All 
 that 
 
   caused
  double messages.
  Check your  e-mail client software and see if it have reply to 
 list  
 
(or
 something similar) option.
  
  Kannel mailing lists works  quite well with normal e-mail  
 clients.
  
 
 

-- 
Kind  regards,   Milan
 --
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 Please do not send  me e-mail containing HTML code.

 
  
  -- 
  Kind regards,   Milan
  --
  Arvanta, IT  Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
  Please do not send me e-mail  containing HTML code.
  
  

-- 
Kind regards,  Milan
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Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-29 Thread Wendy William
You can set how this mailing list works, just set it. You don't need complain 
to 
Yahoo mail.
I believe the moderator of this mailing list can do it, if not then we can help 
to set it.

I see moderator of Xen, CentOS, and others already follow this, why not Kannel?

Regards, Wendy




- Original Message 
 From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 1:54:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
 
 On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote:
  I'am using Yahoo  webmail and  ofcourse not only me use Yahoo webmail :)
 
 Then you  should complain to the Yahoo and not this list.
 
 If all the people of the  world use improper Yahoo mail (or any other)
 software for mailing list which  cannot handle such simple option, that
 will not make it proper. It does not  work. Period.
 
 But, this question is discussed many times in this list and  I think we
 should terminate this useless thread. :)
 
Regards, Wendy
  
  
  - Original Message 
From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
   To: users@kannel.org
   Sent: Sun,  August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
   Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
   
   On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy  William wrote:
I got this complain  :)

--
 Next time,  always  copy the  users list.

  
 == Rene
  --
Current Kannel mailing  settings  caused:
1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1  from Rene and 1 form kannel.org
2. I must click   Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to Rene
3.  Wasting time,  wasting bandwidth
4. How do I filter mail  from Rene to be deleted  because I have got 
same 

  email 
  
from kannel behind Rene (also other  users)  ?

So, I hope the moderator change the  mailing list  setting to avoid 
this 

  complain, 
   
please ...
   
   It would be better  to  use e-mail client which know how to reply to
   mailing list.  And not only you  but most of the people subscribed to
   this  list.
   
Regards,  Wendy




 - Original Message  
 From: Milan P. Stanic  m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent:  Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
 
  Hi Juan,
 
 On  Sun,  2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
  Milan, I   don't  take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
   understood  with my  reply, but it was not directed to you  at 
all, 
was
   directed to Wendy the   original poster  :)
 
   Sorry for my bad English.
 
 I  didn't want  to  say that you offended me. I put no offense  tag 
to
 tell that  I  don't want to offend you.  :)
 
  On 8/21/11  3:55 PM,  Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
  On Sun,  2011-08-21  at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
The good or not  good depends on each person...
   Well,  yes. There is  proper also.
   
  There's always   debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, 
where
some people claim one  way is the correct or better  one, 
and  

  some
  people claim  it's  the other one, and each  of them have their 
good
   reasons...  Search on  google and you'll find  tons of topics on 
this
   matter,   and you will be able to see the different opinions 
about  

   it.
  no  offense
   I'm  subscribed to different mailing lists for more  than  
fifteen 
years
   and I don't have  to search google about that subject,   IMHO.
   /no offense
  
At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the  list  owners, 
and 

  I'm
  sure  that  they have already  thought about this and that they  
won't
  change   their mind.:)
  Agreed. But, when some random user  ask  how to  reply canonical 
way I
  don't think  it is  rude to tell about reply  to list option if 
MUA
support that.
  
 Regards.
   
  
On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William  wrote:
   When I do reply any  Kannel mail  then To field  filled by 
sender, 

  not 
  
by
   users@kannel.org. This is not good  since  we  must use Reply 
All that 

  
 caused
   double  messages.
   Check your  e-mail  client software and see if it have reply 
  to 

  list  
   
 (or
   something similar) option.

   Kannel mailing lists  works  quite well with normal e-mail  
  clients.

  
   
 
 -- 
  Kind  regards,   Milan
   --
  Arvanta,  IT  Security http://www.arvanta.net
  Please do not send  me  e-mail containing HTML code.
 
   
   
   -- 
   Kind regards,Milan
   --
Arvanta, IT  Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net

Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-29 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 17:17, Wendy William wrote:
 You can set how this mailing list works, just set it. You don't need complain 
 to 
 Yahoo mail.

I don't complain to Yahoo mail. I don't use it for mail.

 I believe the moderator of this mailing list can do it, if not then we can 
 help 
 to set it.

You can create mailing list and set it however you want.
 
 I see moderator of Xen, CentOS, and others already follow this, why not 
 Kannel?

This is discussed many times (as I said in previous mail) and mailing
list moderator decided to set it to proper mode.

 Regards, Wendy
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 1:54:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
  
  On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote:
   I'am using Yahoo  webmail and  ofcourse not only me use Yahoo webmail 
   :)
  
  Then you  should complain to the Yahoo and not this list.
  
  If all the people of the  world use improper Yahoo mail (or any other)
  software for mailing list which  cannot handle such simple option, that
  will not make it proper. It does not  work. Period.
  
  But, this question is discussed many times in this list and  I think we
  should terminate this useless thread. :)
  
 Regards, Wendy
   
   
   - Original Message 
 From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Sun,  August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy  William wrote:
 I got this complain  :)
 
 --
  Next time,  always  copy the  users list.
 
   
  == Rene
   --
 Current Kannel mailing  settings  caused:
 1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1  from Rene and 1 form 
 kannel.org
 2. I must click   Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to 
 Rene
 3.  Wasting time,  wasting bandwidth
 4. How do I filter mail  from Rene to be deleted  because I have got 
 same 
 
   email 
   
 from kannel behind Rene (also other  users)  ?
 
 So, I hope the moderator change the  mailing list  setting to avoid 
 this 
 
   complain, 

 please ...

It would be better  to  use e-mail client which know how to reply to
mailing list.  And not only you  but most of the people subscribed to
this  list.

 Regards,  Wendy
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message  
  From: Milan P. Stanic  m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent:  Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
  
   Hi Juan,
  
  On  Sun,  2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
   Milan, I   don't  take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
understood  with my  reply, but it was not directed to you  at 
 all, 
 was
directed to Wendy the   original poster  :)
  
Sorry for my bad English.
  
  I  didn't want  to  say that you offended me. I put no offense  
  tag 
 to
  tell that  I  don't want to offend you.  :)
  
   On 8/21/11  3:55 PM,  Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
   On Sun,  2011-08-21  at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
 The good or not  good depends on each person...
Well,  yes. There is  proper also.

   There's always   debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, 
 where
 some people claim one  way is the correct or better  one, 
 and  
 
   some
   people claim  it's  the other one, and each  of them have their 
 good
reasons...  Search on  google and you'll find  tons of topics 
on 
 this
matter,   and you will be able to see the different opinions 
 about  
 
it.
   no  offense
I'm  subscribed to different mailing lists for more  than  
 fifteen 
 years
and I don't have  to search google about that subject,   IMHO.
/no offense
   
 At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the  list  
 owners, 
 and 
 
   I'm
   sure  that  they have already  thought about this and that they 

 won't
   change   their mind.:)
   Agreed. But, when some random user  ask  how to  reply 
   canonical 
 way I
   don't think  it is  rude to tell about reply  to list option 
   if 
 MUA
 support that.
   
  Regards.

   
 On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William  wrote:
When I do reply any  Kannel mail  then To field  filled by 
 sender, 
 
   not 
   
 by
users@kannel.org. This is not good  since  we  must use 
   Reply 
 All that 
 
   
  caused
double  messages.
Check your  e-mail  client software and see if it have reply 
   to 
 
   list  

  (or
something

Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-29 Thread Wendy William
I know this is discussed many times in many lists but they like to make a 
change 
instead Kannel :)
Moderator (I don't know whois the moderator of this list) only need to change 
it 
then every one happy, no need to call every one to use you suggested mail 
client.

Why the moderator hard to change it? Will it hurt the moderator?

Milan, let's make thing simple, let's make Kannel list runs on every mail 
clients.
 
Regards, Wendy




- Original Message 
 From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 5:04:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
 
 On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 17:17, Wendy William wrote:
  You can set how this  mailing list works, just set it. You don't need 
complain to 

  Yahoo  mail.
 
 I don't complain to Yahoo mail. I don't use it for  mail.
 
  I believe the moderator of this mailing list can do it, if not  then we can 
help 

  to set it.
 
 You can create mailing list and set  it however you want.
 
  I see moderator of Xen, CentOS, and others  already follow this, why not 
Kannel?
 
 This is discussed many times (as I  said in previous mail) and mailing
 list moderator decided to set it to  proper mode.
 
  Regards, Wendy
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
   From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
   To: users@kannel.org
   Sent: Mon,  August 29, 2011 1:54:43 PM
   Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
   
   On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy  William wrote:
I'am using Yahoo  webmail and   ofcourse not only me use Yahoo 
webmail :)
   
   Then  you  should complain to the Yahoo and not this list.
   
If all the people of the  world use improper Yahoo mail (or any  other)
   software for mailing list which  cannot handle such  simple option, that
   will not make it proper. It does not   work. Period.
   
   But, this question is discussed many  times in this list and  I think we
   should terminate this  useless thread. :)
   
  Regards, Wendy
 

- Original Message  
  From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent:  Sun,  August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
 
  On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy  William wrote:
   I got this complain  :)
  
   --
   Next  time,  always  copy the  users list.
  

   ==  Rene
--
   Current Kannel mailing  settings  caused:
   1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1  from Rene and 1 form 
kannel.org
   2. I must click   Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send  
to 
Rene
  3.  Wasting time,  wasting  bandwidth
  4. How do I filter mail  from Rene to  be deleted  because I have 
  got 
same 

  
 email 

  from kannel behind  Rene (also other  users)  ?
  
   So, I hope the moderator change the  mailing list   setting to 
   avoid 
this 

  
complain, 
  
  please ...
 
 It would be better  to  use e-mail client  which know how to reply to
 mailing list.  And not  only you  but most of the people subscribed to
  this  list.
 
   Regards,  Wendy
  
  
  
  
- Original Message  
From: Milan P. Stanic  m...@arvanta.net
To: users@kannel.org
Sent:  Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: Wrong  setting on Kannel  Mailing List?

Hi  Juan,
   
On  Sun,  2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
 Milan, I   don't  take it as an offense at all, not  sure what 
you
 understood  with  my  reply, but it was not directed to you  
  at 
all, 

   was
 directed to Wendy theoriginal poster  :)
   
  Sorry for my bad English.

   I  didn't want  to  say  that you offended me. I put no offense 

tag 

  to
tell that  I  don't want to offend you.   :)
   
On  8/21/11  3:55 PM,  Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
 On Sun,  2011-08-21  at 11:08, Juan Nin  wrote:
  The good or  not  good depends on each person...
  Well,  yes. There is  proper also.
  
 There's always   debate  on this topic on every 
mailing-list, 

  where
  some  people claim one  way is the correct or better  
one, 

   and  
  
some
 people claim  it's  the other one, and each  of  them have 
their 

  good
  reasons...  Search on  google and you'll find  tons of  
topics on 

  this
  matter,   and you will be able to see the different 
opinions 

  about  
  
 it.
 no  offense
  I'm  subscribed to different mailing lists for  more  than  
fifteen 

  years
  and I don't have  to search google about that  subject,   
IMHO.
 /no  offense

   At the end of  the day, it's the decision of  the  list  
owners

Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-28 Thread Wendy William
I got this complain :)

--
 Next time, always copy the  users list.

 
 == Rene
--
Current Kannel mailing settings caused:
1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1 from Rene and 1 form kannel.org
2. I must click Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to Rene
3. Wasting time, wasting bandwidth
4. How do I filter mail from Rene to be deleted because I have got same email 
from kannel behind Rene (also other users) ?

So, I hope the moderator change the mailing list setting to avoid this 
complain, 
please ...
 
Regards, Wendy




- Original Message 
 From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
 
 Hi Juan,
 
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
  Milan, I  don't take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
  understood with my  reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was
  directed to Wendy the  original poster  :)
 
 Sorry for my bad English.
 
 I didn't want  to say that you offended me. I put no offense tag to
 tell that I  don't want to offend you. :)
 
  On 8/21/11 3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
   The good or not good depends on each person...
  Well,  yes. There is proper also.
  
  There's always debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, where
  some people claim one  way is the correct or better one, and some
  people claim it's  the other one, and each of them have their good
  reasons...  Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this
  matter,  and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.
  no  offense
  I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than  fifteen years
  and I don't have to search google about that subject,  IMHO.
  /no offense
  
  At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm
  sure that  they have already thought about this and that they won't
  change  their mind.   :)
  Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to  reply canonical way I
  don't think it is rude to tell about reply  to list option if MUA
  support that.
  
   Regards.
  
  
  On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William wrote:
  When I do reply any Kannel mail  then To field filled by sender, not 
by
  users@kannel.org. This is not good since we  must use Reply All that 
caused
  double messages.
   Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list  
(or
  something similar) option.
  
   Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail  clients.
  
  
  
 
 -- 
 Kind  regards,   Milan
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 Please do not send  me e-mail containing HTML code.
 
 



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-28 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy William wrote:
 I got this complain :)
 
 --
  Next time, always copy the  users list.
 
  
  == Rene
 --
 Current Kannel mailing settings caused:
 1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1 from Rene and 1 form kannel.org
 2. I must click Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to Rene
 3. Wasting time, wasting bandwidth
 4. How do I filter mail from Rene to be deleted because I have got same email 
 from kannel behind Rene (also other users) ?
 
 So, I hope the moderator change the mailing list setting to avoid this 
 complain, 
 please ...

It would be better to use e-mail client which know how to reply to
mailing list. And not only you but most of the people subscribed to
this list.

 Regards, Wendy
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
  To: users@kannel.org
  Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
  
  Hi Juan,
  
  On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
   Milan, I  don't take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
   understood with my  reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was
   directed to Wendy the  original poster  :)
  
  Sorry for my bad English.
  
  I didn't want  to say that you offended me. I put no offense tag to
  tell that I  don't want to offend you. :)
  
   On 8/21/11 3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
The good or not good depends on each person...
   Well,  yes. There is proper also.
   
   There's always debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, where
   some people claim one  way is the correct or better one, and some
   people claim it's  the other one, and each of them have their good
   reasons...  Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this
   matter,  and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.
   no  offense
   I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than  fifteen years
   and I don't have to search google about that subject,  IMHO.
   /no offense
   
   At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm
   sure that  they have already thought about this and that they won't
   change  their mind.   :)
   Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to  reply canonical way I
   don't think it is rude to tell about reply  to list option if MUA
   support that.
   
Regards.
   
   
   On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William wrote:
   When I do reply any Kannel mail  then To field filled by sender, 
   not 
 by
   users@kannel.org. This is not good since we  must use Reply All that 
 caused
   double messages.
Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list  
 (or
   something similar) option.
   
Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail  clients.
   
   
   
  
  -- 
  Kind  regards,   Milan
  --
  Arvanta, IT  Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
  Please do not send  me e-mail containing HTML code.
  
  

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Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-28 Thread Wendy William
I'am using Yahoo webmail and  ofcourse not only me use Yahoo webmail :)

 Regards, Wendy


- Original Message 
 From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
 To: users@kannel.org
 Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?
 
 On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy William wrote:
  I got this complain  :)
  
  --
   Next time, always  copy the  users list.
  
   
   == Rene
   --
  Current Kannel mailing settings  caused:
  1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1 from Rene and 1 form kannel.org
  2. I must click  Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send to Rene
  3. Wasting time,  wasting bandwidth
  4. How do I filter mail from Rene to be deleted  because I have got same 
email 

  from kannel behind Rene (also other  users) ?
  
  So, I hope the moderator change the mailing list  setting to avoid this 
complain, 

  please ...
 
 It would be better to  use e-mail client which know how to reply to
 mailing list. And not only you  but most of the people subscribed to
 this list.
 
  Regards,  Wendy
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message  
   From: Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
   To: users@kannel.org
   Sent: Mon,  August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM
   Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel  Mailing List?
   
   Hi Juan,
   
   On  Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
Milan, I  don't  take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
understood  with my  reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was
 directed to Wendy the  original poster  :)
   
Sorry for my bad English.
   
   I didn't want  to  say that you offended me. I put no offense tag to
   tell that  I  don't want to offend you. :)
   
On 8/21/11  3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic  wrote:
On Sun, 2011-08-21  at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
 The good or not  good depends on each person...
Well,  yes. There is  proper also.

There's always  debate  on this topic on every mailing-list, where
 some people claim one  way is the correct or better one, and  
some
people claim it's  the other one, and each  of them have their good
reasons...  Search on  google and you'll find tons of topics on this
 matter,  and you will be able to see the different opinions about  
it.
no  offense
I'm  subscribed to different mailing lists for more than  fifteen years
 and I don't have to search google about that subject,   IMHO.
/no offense

 At the end of  the day, it's the decision of the list  owners, and 
I'm
sure that  they have already  thought about this and that they won't
change   their mind.   :)
Agreed. But, when some random user  ask how to  reply canonical way I
don't think it is  rude to tell about reply  to list option if MUA
 support that.

  Regards.


 On 8/21/11  7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10,  Wendy William wrote:
 When I do reply any Kannel mail  then To field  filled by 
  sender, 
not 

  by
users@kannel.org. This is not good since  we  must use Reply All 
that 

  caused
 double messages.
 Check your  e-mail client software and see if it have reply to 
list  

   (or
something similar) option.
 
 Kannel mailing lists works  quite well with normal e-mail  
clients.
 


   
   -- 
   Kind  regards,   Milan
--
   Arvanta,  IT  Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
Please do not send  me e-mail containing HTML code.
   

 
 -- 
 Kind regards,   Milan
 --
 Arvanta, IT  Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
 Please do not send me e-mail  containing HTML code.
 
 



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-22 Thread Milan P. Stanic
Hi Juan,

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote:
 Milan, I don't take it as an offense at all, not sure what you
 understood with my reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was
 directed to Wendy the original poster  :)

Sorry for my bad English.

I didn't want to say that you offended me. I put no offense tag to
tell that I don't want to offend you. :)

 On 8/21/11 3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
 The good or not good depends on each person...
 Well, yes. There is proper also.
 
 There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where
 some people claim one way is the correct or better one, and some
 people claim it's the other one, and each of them have their good
 reasons... Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this
 matter, and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.
 no offense
 I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than fifteen years
 and I don't have to search google about that subject, IMHO.
 /no offense
 
 At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm
 sure that they have already thought about this and that they won't
 change their mind.   :)
 Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to reply canonical way I
 don't think it is rude to tell about reply to list option if MUA
 support that.
 
 Regards.
 
 
 On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:
 When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by
 users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused
 double messages.
 Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
 something similar) option.
 
 Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.
 
 
 

-- 
Kind regards,  Milan
--
Arvanta, IT Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.



Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Wendy William
Guys,

When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by 
users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused 
double messages.

Regards, Wendy



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:
 When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by 
 users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused 
 double messages.

Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
something similar) option.

Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.
 
-- 
Kind regards,  Milan
--
Arvanta, IT Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Juan Nin

The good or not good depends on each person...

There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where some 
people claim one way is the correct or better one, and some people 
claim it's the other one, and each of them have their good reasons... 
Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this matter, and you 
will be able to see the different opinions about it.


At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm 
sure that they have already thought about this and that they won't 
change their mind.   :)


Regards.


On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:

When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by
users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused
double messages.

Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
something similar) option.

Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.





Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Iain Dooley
We've been through this before :) I think a few times (once in my memory 
but I'm a relative newbie).


Anyway, just reply all - people's mail clients will deduplicate the 
messages as they'll all have the same message id.


For example, Juan, you only received this once right?

Cheers,
Iain

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Juan Nin wrote:


The good or not good depends on each person...

There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where some people 
claim one way is the correct or better one, and some people claim it's 
the other one, and each of them have their good reasons... Search on google 
and you'll find tons of topics on this matter, and you will be able to see 
the different opinions about it.


At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm sure 
that they have already thought about this and that they won't change their 
mind.   :)


Regards.


On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:

When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by
users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused
double messages.

Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
something similar) option.

Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.








Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Juan Nin

Exactly, got it only once  :)


On 8/21/11 11:13 AM, Iain Dooley wrote:
We've been through this before :) I think a few times (once in my 
memory but I'm a relative newbie).


Anyway, just reply all - people's mail clients will deduplicate the 
messages as they'll all have the same message id.


For example, Juan, you only received this once right?

Cheers,
Iain

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Juan Nin wrote:


The good or not good depends on each person...

There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where some 
people claim one way is the correct or better one, and some 
people claim it's the other one, and each of them have their good 
reasons... Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this 
matter, and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.


At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm 
sure that they have already thought about this and that they won't 
change their mind.   :)


Regards.


On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:
When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, 
not by
users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that 
caused

double messages.
Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list 
(or

something similar) option.

Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.









Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:
 The good or not good depends on each person...

Well, yes. There is proper also.

 There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where
 some people claim one way is the correct or better one, and some
 people claim it's the other one, and each of them have their good
 reasons... Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this
 matter, and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.

no offense
I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than fifteen years
and I don't have to search google about that subject, IMHO.
/no offense

 At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm
 sure that they have already thought about this and that they won't
 change their mind.   :)

Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to reply canonical way I
don't think it is rude to tell about reply to list option if MUA
support that.

 Regards.
 
 
 On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:
 When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by
 users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused
 double messages.
 Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
 something similar) option.
 
 Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.
 
 

-- 
Kind regards,  Milan
--
Arvanta, IT Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.



Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List?

2011-08-21 Thread Juan Nin
Milan, I don't take it as an offense at all, not sure what you 
understood with my reply, but it was not directed to you at all, was 
directed to Wendy the original poster  :)



On 8/21/11 3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote:

The good or not good depends on each person...

Well, yes. There is proper also.


There's always debate on this topic on every mailing-list, where
some people claim one way is the correct or better one, and some
people claim it's the other one, and each of them have their good
reasons... Search on google and you'll find tons of topics on this
matter, and you will be able to see the different opinions about it.

no offense
I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than fifteen years
and I don't have to search google about that subject, IMHO.
/no offense


At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list owners, and I'm
sure that they have already thought about this and that they won't
change their mind.   :)

Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to reply canonical way I
don't think it is rude to tell about reply to list option if MUA
support that.


Regards.


On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote:

When I do reply any Kannel mail then To field filled by sender, not by
users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use Reply All that caused
double messages.

Check your e-mail client software and see if it have reply to list (or
something similar) option.

Kannel mailing lists works quite well with normal e-mail clients.