Re: [389-users] Filters
The document I gave you link in other thread. Was describing negation in filters. 25 kwi 2013 11:08, Aziza Lichir aziza.lic...@gmail.com napisał(a): Hello, Is it possible to make a filter to synchronize specific values. For example i don't want to replicate/synchronize this value cn=Computers. Thanks for your help -- * ___* *Aziza Lichir* * * -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Configuring emacs in F18
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:54:05PM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: Hey, hi, I was trying to customize the theme color of emacs itself and I [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] (defun color-theme-nice () (interactive) (color-theme-install '(color-theme-nice [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] ))) (provide 'color-theme-nice) (require 'color-theme) (color-theme-initialize) (color-theme-nice) Two issues: 1. (require 'color-theme) should go before (defun color-theme-nice() ..) 2. As far as I know F18 ships Emacs 24.2. In that case the color-theme package is deprecated, and will not work anyway. You have to switch to the built in custom-theme interface. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to configure yum to not check for free inodes?
On 24.04.2013 22:51, David G. Miller wrote: poma pomidorabelisima at gmail.com writes: On 24.04.2013 16:58, David G. Miller wrote: Clemens Eisserer linuxhippy at gmail.com writes: […] What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass --ignoresize to rpm automatically. Is this possible somehow? Thank you in advance, Clemens 2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer linuxhippy at gmail.com: SNIP As a workaround you can set rpm options through /etc/rpmrc. You'll have to do the research to find out how to set it but it would then be used for all rpm transactions. Cheers, Dave rpmbuild != rpm :) poma Actually, /etc/rpmrc is used by rpm; not rpmbuild. Frpmthe rpm man page: FILES rpmrc Configuration /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc /etc/rpmrc ~/.rpmrc man 8 rpmbuild :) … GENERAL OPTIONS … --rcfile FILELIST … The default FILELIST is /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc:/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc:/etc/rpmrc:~/.rpmrc. … FILES rpmrc Configuration /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc /etc/rpmrc ~/.rpmrc … and from /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc: [root@bend ~]# cat /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc #/*! \page config_rpmrc Default configuration: /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc # \verbatim # # This is a global RPM configuration file. All changes made here will # be lost when the rpm package is upgraded. Any per-system configuration # should be added to /etc/rpmrc, while per-user configuration should # be added to ~/.rpmrc. # # You left out what is actually used - *optflags* *arch* directives - to guess what. :) Both rpm and rpmbuild use the same rc files. Probably not the best design but take it up with the rpm project folks. For some of the 'rpm' command options - *maybe* once upon a time. :) It doesn't work even with the RPM version 4.3.3 - EL4. ;) i.e. - RPM version 4.10.3.1 http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-install-additional-options.html#S2-RPM-INSTALL-EXCLUDEDOCS-OPTION /etc/rpmrc: excludedocs: 1 # rpm -i dstat-0.7.2-9.fc18.noarch.rpm error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1 # rpm -e dstat error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1 # yum install ./dstat-0.7.2-9.fc18.noarch.rpm error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1 … # yum erase dstat error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1 … But do work with i.e. /etc/rpm/macros.excludedocs: %_excludedocs 1 # rpm -qs dstat | grep not installed not installed /usr/share/doc/dstat-0.7.2 … not installed /usr/share/man/man1/dstat.1.gz or /etc/yum.conf: tsflags=nodocs Take into account that certain(rpm) directives don't work that way, anyway. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On 04/25/2013 09:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. Quoting the wrong person! Roger didn't write that at all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Am 25.04.2013 01:25, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 04/24/2013 02:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: as any other kernel-param in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and /etc/default/grub while the latter is what will be used by grub2-mkconfig Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wondering why I see the error message about the font True not being found. If so, can I simply edit that out and rebuild /boot/grub2.grub.cfg? surely, you even can fix /boot/grub2.grub.cfg at it own as grubby does at kernel updates without calling grub2-mkconfig and taint the menu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer, the original meaning of the term Geezer, as still used in the UK, is significantly different from how it's used in the US. Should we also be trying to get people to go back to that meaning? For that matter, how about the term geek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek#Etymology Language evolves, and pretending that it doesn't isn't going to do anybody any good. My advice is to ignore it and move on. Exactly - go back to the middle ages and all children, whether male or female, were called 'girls'. A son was a 'knave girl' and a daughter a 'gay girl'. 'Gay' as the modern term started off as 'gai' in France and referred to 'courtly love'. It was later applied to promiscuous men and women in the UK before morphing in the 20th century to its present definition. Perhaps we should go back and educate the masses as to the true meanings of all these words too? :-) Regards, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On 25.04.2013 11:31, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer, the original meaning of the term Geezer, as still used in the UK, is significantly different from how it's used in the US. Should we also be trying to get people to go back to that meaning? For that matter, how about the term geek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek#Etymology Language evolves, and pretending that it doesn't isn't going to do anybody any good. My advice is to ignore it and move on. Exactly - go back to the middle ages and all children, whether male or female, were called 'girls'. A son was a 'knave girl' and a daughter a 'gay girl'. 'Gay' as the modern term started off as 'gai' in France and referred to 'courtly love'. It was later applied to promiscuous men and women in the UK before morphing in the 20th century to its present definition. Perhaps we should go back and educate the masses as to the true meanings of all these words too? :-) I always knew I would learn English language with Linux. :-) Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f17 - f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd
I have upgraded f17 to f18 w/ fedora-upgrade and all went smoothly :) only this issue: # slapcat 51792415 bdb(dc=my-domain,dc=com): BDB1538 Program version 5.3 doesn't match environment version 5.2 51792415 bdb_db_open: database dc=my-domain,dc=com cannot be opened, err -30969. Restore from backup! 51792415 backend_startup_one (type=bdb, suffix=dc=my-domain,dc=com): bi_db_open failed! (-30969) slap_startup failed I forget to do a backup before upgarding, how can I fix? mant thnx -m. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f17 - f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd
can a program out of the bdb-utils help you? $ rpm -ql libdb-utils /usr/bin/db_archive /usr/bin/db_checkpoint /usr/bin/db_deadlock /usr/bin/db_dump /usr/bin/db_dump185 /usr/bin/db_hotbackup /usr/bin/db_load /usr/bin/db_log_verify /usr/bin/db_printlog /usr/bin/db_recover /usr/bin/db_replicate /usr/bin/db_stat /usr/bin/db_tuner /usr/bin/db_upgrade /usr/bin/db_verify suomi On 04/25/2013 02:44 PM, Maurizio Marini wrote: I have upgraded f17 to f18 w/ fedora-upgrade and all went smoothly :) only this issue: # slapcat 51792415 bdb(dc=my-domain,dc=com): BDB1538 Program version 5.3 doesn't match environment version 5.2 51792415 bdb_db_open: database dc=my-domain,dc=com cannot be opened, err -30969. Restore from backup! 51792415 backend_startup_one (type=bdb, suffix=dc=my-domain,dc=com): bi_db_open failed! (-30969) slap_startup failed I forget to do a backup before upgarding, how can I fix? mant thnx -m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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Re: hackers
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:31 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Exactly - go back to the middle ages and all children, whether male or female, were called 'girls'. A son was a 'knave girl' and a daughter a 'gay girl'. And 'boy' meant a servant. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to configure yum to not check for free inodes?
On 04/24/2013 10:40 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 04/24/2013 03:35 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit. What does 'stat -f /' return on that system? Well this is a strange beast: [root@turre mnt]# stat -f . File: . ID: 701 Namelen: 255 Type: nilfs Block size: 4096 Fundamental block size: 4096 Blocks: Total: 49151 Free: 40960 Available: 24576 Inodes: Total: 2 Free: 0 [root@turre mnt]# touch 1 [root@turre mnt]# stat -f . File: . ID: 701 Namelen: 255 Type: nilfs Block size: 4096 Fundamental block size: 4096 Blocks: Total: 49151 Free: 40960 Available: 24576 Inodes: Total: 3 Free: 0 [root@turre mnt]# touch 2 [root@turre mnt]# stat -f . File: . ID: 701 Namelen: 255 Type: nilfs Block size: 4096 Fundamental block size: 4096 Blocks: Total: 49151 Free: 40960 Available: 24576 Inodes: Total: 4 Free: 0 [root@turre mnt]# Advertising unlimited inodes with 0 available is an ... interesting choice. Chances are rpm is not the only thing getting upset by that. - Panu - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f17 - f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:34:15 +0200 fedora fed...@ayni.com wrote: many thnx this solved form me http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-March/432826.html -m smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On Apr 25, 2013 3:51 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: On 25.04.2013 11:31, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer, the original meaning of the term Geezer, as still used in the UK, is significantly different from how it's used in the US. Should we also be trying to get people to go back to that meaning? For that matter, how about the term geek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek#Etymology Language evolves, and pretending that it doesn't isn't going to do anybody any good. My advice is to ignore it and move on. Exactly - go back to the middle ages and all children, whether male or female, were called 'girls'. A son was a 'knave girl' and a daughter a 'gay girl'. 'Gay' as the modern term started off as 'gai' in France and referred to 'courtly love'. It was later applied to promiscuous men and women in the UK before morphing in the 20th century to its present definition. Perhaps we should go back and educate the masses as to the true meanings of all these words too? :-) I always knew I would learn English language with Linux. :-) Mateusz Marzantowicz -- Ignore and move on? Would you say the same thing if we, the state, threw you in prison for the use of the term? Civil society already does. Case in point: use of the term my account has been hacked or ...website had been hacked have negative connotations; instead of looking to fix homes in faulty software, they blame someone for attacking them. This has to change. People don't normally intend to rob a bank when they go in to make a withdrawal. They have to understand that the same goes for hackers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Configuring emacs in F18
The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even the, it just reads from the site-lisp directory/folder/whatever, so any way I re-formulate the question: With that information showed int echo area who doesn't show a line like loading functions in .emacs... or sort of, what do you suggest to I do to solve this issue? On 25 April 2013 00:00, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:54:05PM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: Hey, hi, I was trying to customize the theme color of emacs itself and I [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] (defun color-theme-nice () (interactive) (color-theme-install '(color-theme-nice [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] ))) (provide 'color-theme-nice) (require 'color-theme) (color-theme-initialize) (color-theme-nice) Two issues: 1. (require 'color-theme) should go before (defun color-theme-nice() ..) 2. As far as I know F18 ships Emacs 24.2. In that case the color-theme package is deprecated, and will not work anyway. You have to switch to the built in custom-theme interface. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Apr 24, 2013 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 24.04.2013 23:21, schrieb Phil Dobbin: On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: Hello Ed, Yes, it has been mentioned on the test list several times. It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel parameters. Thx a lot, works now like a charme :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugStrategy Excuse my ignorance but how do you set the kernel parameters for 'slug_debug_' (.i.e in which file or whereabouts)? as any other kernel-param in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and /etc/default/grub while the latter is what will be used by grub2-mkconfig -- I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and didn't have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link to the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look like the splash-page on boot, and I'm still on the stable - or non-alpha - kernel. My choose of what happened is up here under fedup -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Configuring emacs in F18
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:23:02AM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even the, it just reads from the site-lisp directory/folder/whatever, so any way I re-formulate the question: With that information showed int echo area who doesn't show a line like loading functions in .emacs... or sort of, what do you suggest to I do to solve this issue? This is not an issue because emacs does not write a message for ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el. They are special in this regard. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and didn't have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link to the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look like the splash-page on boot, and I'm still on the stable - or non-alpha - kernel. Why do you keep asking about F19 on the wrong list? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:17:53AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: .snip. Ignore and move on? Would you say the same thing if we, the state, threw you in prison for the use of the term? Civil society already does. Case in point: use of the term my account has been hacked or ...website had been hacked have negative connotations; instead of looking to fix homes in faulty software, they blame someone for attacking them. This has to change. No, it doesn't *have to* change and will actively resist. People don't normally intend to rob a bank when they go in to make a withdrawal. They have to understand that the same goes for hackers. No, they don't *have to* understand and will actively resist. What you're trying to change is human nature. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:17:53AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: .snip. Ignore and move on? Would you say the same thing if we, the state, threw you in prison for the use of the term? Civil society already does. Case in point: use of the term my account has been hacked or ...website had been hacked have negative connotations; instead of looking to fix homes in faulty software, they blame someone for attacking them. This has to change. No, it doesn't *have to* change and will actively resist. People don't normally intend to rob a bank when they go in to make a withdrawal. They have to understand that the same goes for hackers. No, they don't *have to* understand and will actively resist. What you're trying to change is human nature. You are just going to let society walk all over you? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and didn't have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link to the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look like the splash-page on boot, and I'm still on the stable - or non-alpha - kernel. Why do you keep asking about F19 on the wrong list? poc -- Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. Frankly, I don't exactly know where this exact list is, and not being on that list, it is impossible both to get a reply AND to get mail that I replied to, such as I did here. I know how governments, courts, legislation, and such things work, not mailing lists. Do I not have to be on this other list in order to ask something from other's on said list, let alone get a reply? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 13:12:43 -0700, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: Frankly, I don't exactly know where this exact list is, and not being on that list, it is impossible both to get a reply AND to get mail that I replied to, such as I did here. I know how governments, courts, legislation, and such things work, not mailing lists. Do I not have to be on this other list in order to ask something from other's on said list, let alone get a reply? It works a lot smoother if you are subscribed to the test list. If you are seriously running systems on rawhide or branched, it is recommended that you be subscribed to the test list. Some of Fedora's lists are moderated and posts by non-members will eventually get released if appropriate. Some lists add reply-to headers and others don't. On the ones that don't add reply-to headers, you might get copied on replies, depending on who is replying. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Around 09:12pm on Thursday, April 25, 2013 (UK time), Richard Vickery scrawled: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. Frankly, I don't exactly know where this exact list is, and not being on that list, it is impossible both to get a reply AND to get mail that I replied to, such as I did here. I know how governments, courts, legislation, and such things work, not mailing lists. Do I not have to be on this other list in order to ask something from other's on said list, let alone get a reply? On the page where you subscribed to the mailing list it clearly states Discussion of test releases (alpha, beta, rawhide) should be directed to the test list You don't need to be a technical user (whatever that is) to understand this. Mailing list page: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Steve -- Website: www.stevesearle.com 21:27:07 up 7 days, 9:30, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 pgpSzdiurLWT5.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and didn't have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link to the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look like the splash-page on boot, and I'm still on the stable - or non-alpha - kernel. Why do you keep asking about F19 on the wrong list? poc -- Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something!- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). --**--**-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something!- --**--**-- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 Thanks, -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). --__--__-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something!- --__--__-- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels have orphaned for some reason. The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an exclude=kernel* thing in there. Quick check (as root): # cd /etc # grep -R exclude yum* Look for exclude= lines that aren't commented out. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -I doubt, therefore I might be. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything it could to help you. It's repeatedly told you where you need to ask your questions, but up until now, you haven't accepted the fact that you're asking in the wrong place. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Configuring emacs in F18
So what I do?, I don't feel the changes, I mean I had to do an .el file in site-lisp directory and make the changes directly in it; I think it is not the best way to do it; but it's the only way I figured out, I read the emacs manual and everything, but the customization should be in .emacs, and the file is not being read in first place. Anyway I'll try it, again; then I'll report any eventual issue. On 25 April 2013 11:47, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:23:02AM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even the, it just reads from the site-lisp directory/folder/whatever, so any way I re-formulate the question: With that information showed int echo area who doesn't show a line like loading functions in .emacs... or sort of, what do you suggest to I do to solve this issue? This is not an issue because emacs does not write a message for ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el. They are special in this regard. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). --__--__-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something! - --__--__-- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels have orphaned for some reason. The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an exclude=kernel* thing in there. Quick check (as root): # cd /etc # grep -R exclude yum* Look for exclude= lines that aren't commented I don't get anything. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 02:25 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything it could to help you. It's repeatedly told you where you need to ask your questions, but up until now, you haven't accepted the fact that you're asking in the wrong place. Joe, I think that many of the responses Richard received read as you're asking the wrong list, go away and ask on the correct list without ever telling him what the correct list WAS. Nor was it ever explained to him where things would migrate between the test and user lists. I've been on various RHEL and Fedora lists for upwards of ten years and it can be confusing to me! But I'm an old fart and forget things. To be honest, looking over the thread, some of the responses were also worded in a, shall we say, less than friendly manner? This list really exists to help people. No, we don't know all the answers, and yes, sometimes we get snarky, but that should be the exception rather than the rule. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I never drink water because of the disgusting things that fish do - - in it.- - -- WC. Fields - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). --__--__-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something! - --__--__-- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels have orphaned for some reason. The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an exclude=kernel* thing in there. Quick check (as root): # cd /etc # grep -R exclude yum* Look for exclude= lines that aren't commented I don't get anything. Hmmm, that's interesting. If you try to update your kernel specifically in a trial, what sort of messages do you get? You can try (as root): # yum update kernel* and see if you get any indications that something's being blocked. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - A squeegee, by any other name, wouldn't sound as funny. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Configuring emacs in F18
You know what? Something weird has happen, now it's read my .emacs file... nevermind. Thanks for the help! -Isaac On 25 April 2013 15:37, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González w.isaac.cor...@gmail.com wrote: So what I do?, I don't feel the changes, I mean I had to do an .el file in site-lisp directory and make the changes directly in it; I think it is not the best way to do it; but it's the only way I figured out, I read the emacs manual and everything, but the customization should be in .emacs, and the file is not being read in first place. Anyway I'll try it, again; then I'll report any eventual issue. On 25 April 2013 11:47, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:23:02AM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even the, it just reads from the site-lisp directory/folder/whatever, so any way I re-formulate the question: With that information showed int echo area who doesn't show a line like loading functions in .emacs... or sort of, what do you suggest to I do to solve this issue? This is not an issue because emacs does not write a message for ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el. They are special in this regard. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 Not sure what you mean by the alpha program but if you expect to be on F19 Alpha (note the *19*) then look again at the output of the command you gave. It says F18 (note the *18*). So that box is running F18 and not F19 alpha. And that is also the reason why it has kernel 3.7.x and not kernel 3.8.x. Or did I miss something? Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com** wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:test@lists.**fedoraproject.org t...@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:test@lists.**fedoraproject.org t...@lists.fedoraproject.orgmailto: test@lists.**fedoraproject.org t...@lists.fedoraproject.org (a.k.a. The Fedora Test List). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. F19, rawhide, even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). --**__** --__-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com mailto:ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something! - --**__** --__-- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels have orphaned for some reason. The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an exclude=kernel* thing in there. Quick check (as root): # cd /etc # grep -R exclude yum* Look for exclude= lines that aren't commented I don't get anything. Hmmm, that's interesting. If you try to update your kernel specifically in a trial, what sort of messages do you get? You can try (as root): # yum update kernel* and see if you get any indications that something's being blocked. --**--**-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - Thanks Rick. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 Not sure what you mean by the alpha program but if you expect to be on F19 Alpha (note the *19*) then look again at the output of the command you gave. It says F18 (note the *18*). So that box is running F18 and not F19 alpha. And that is also the reason why it has kernel 3.7.x and not kernel 3.8.x. Or did I miss something? Patrick, Richard claims to have fedupped to F19. The kernel remains F18 and an old F18 kernel at that (I've got several F17 boxes with 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 kernels). My suspicion was that a yum config is blocking a kernel update. Richard, can you check the output of cat /etc/issue and verify that your machine really thinks it's F19? -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 Not sure what you mean by the alpha program but if you expect to be on F19 Alpha (note the *19*) then look again at the output of the command you gave. It says F18 (note the *18*). So that box is running F18 and not F19 alpha. And that is also the reason why it has kernel 3.7.x and not kernel 3.8.x. Or did I miss something? Regards, Patrick The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 02:21:18PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an exclude=kernel* thing in there. Quick check (as root): That kernel is not correct even for an up to date F18 system. $ uname -r 3.8.8-202.fc18.x86_64 I have a feeling something else is wrong. It would be helpful to know all the installed kernel packages. What are the outputs of the following commands? $ rpm -q kernel | sort $ grep UPDATEDEFAULT /etc/sysconfig/kernel -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 14:42 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: I think that many of the responses Richard received read as you're asking the wrong list, go away and ask on the correct list without ever telling him what the correct list WAS. Rick If you check back in the archives you'll see that I for one did specifically say that the OP should post on the Test list. IIRC it was in relation to another question he had a few days ago. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer
So I need to ship back some defective merchandize. The vendor sends me a link to a UPS return label, I open it in Firefox, and try to print it. The printer is an HP 1320. When I try to print it, the printer blinks happily for a few seconds, but stays quiet, and Fedora tells me that the print job completed succesfully. I try a few variations. Tell Firefox to print to a PDF file, then open it in evince, and try to print it. Same results. Tried having Firefox print to a PS file. Tried using pdf2ps on the PDF file. Tried a few other things. I forget exactly what I tried, but on one particular attempt the printer woke up. I got all excited, until the printer ejected a single page, with a single sentence This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer, and completely blank otherwise. Very funny. I finally got the label to come out by having Firefox print to an SVG file, opening it in document viewer, and printing it. That worked. HP 1320 is a postscript printer, but it looks to me like some PDFs (not all, I can print most PDFs without any issues) contain Postscript features that the printer does not support. Anyone know if there's a way to get CUPS to handle that correctly. pgpwoyGwMt_Op.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I must be missing something basic
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:05:24 -0700 Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I want to transfer a dvd image from my laptop (ubuntu 12.04.2) to my fedora 18 box that has selinux disabled. Wired connection to my router allows F18 to browse to U12 and see the file and right click copy, but trying to paste into a folder in my /home/dave directory gives a terse 'permission denied.' Ideas? will Read TFM if pointed. D Well, thanks for the suggestions. What I've done is install bittorrent sync on both machines, syncing now at about 5MB/sec. over the LAN. Will try everyone's suggestions later, but this sure is neat. Dave -- Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com The problem with being cynical is you can't keep up! -- anon. philosopher -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com The problem with being cynical is you can't keep up! -- anon. philosopher -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/26/2013 12:23 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: [snip] The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log Right, sorry I missed that you tried a fedup. I'm afraid I don't have a solution. I never used fedup nor did an upgrade. I always do a clean install to prevent things like this from happening. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 nobody knows why you do not update your kernel 3.7.x is old, EOL and lacking a lot of security fixes 3.8.x is in the stable repos for any supported release 3.8.8-203.fc18.x86_64 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 nobody knows why you do not update your kernel 3.7.x is old, EOL and lacking a lot of security fixes 3.8.x is in the stable repos for any supported release 3.8.8-203.fc18.x86_64 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64 and if you updated you kernel / OS it is most likely in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and by whatever error not as default there is a line like set default=0 which can be modified or simply after select the newest kernel at boot a yum reinstall kernel after make sure the newest one works will remove any other kernel and with the next update all should be fine again, or simply use grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cf to re-generate the grub-config, at the begin without the -o param to take a look what would happen but you can for sure select the kernel at boot thanks to people who still thinks it is a good idea to hide the alternate kernels in the grub menu as default and force users to take action by pressing keys at the grub-stage of boot hence to not use linux alpha-releases if you are not firm with these things! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Hi Rick, Your suspicions are correct: $ cat /etc/issue Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) Kernel \r on an \m (\l) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 Not sure what you mean by the alpha program but if you expect to be on F19 Alpha (note the *19*) then look again at the output of the command you gave. It says F18 (note the *18*). So that box is running F18 and not F19 alpha. And that is also the reason why it has kernel 3.7.x and not kernel 3.8.x. Or did I miss something? Patrick, Richard claims to have fedupped to F19. The kernel remains F18 and an old F18 kernel at that (I've got several F17 boxes with 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 kernels). My suspicion was that a yum config is blocking a kernel update. Richard, can you check the output of cat /etc/issue and verify that your machine really thinks it's F19? --**--**-- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. - --**--**-- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 nobody knows why you do not update your kernel 3.7.x is old, EOL and lacking a lot of security fixes 3.8.x is in the stable repos for any supported release 3.8.8-203.fc18.x86_64 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64 and if you updated you kernel / OS it is most likely in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and by whatever error not as default there is a line like set default=0 which can be modified or simply after select the newest kernel at boot a yum reinstall kernel after make sure the newest one works will remove any other kernel and with the next update all should be fine again, or simply use grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cf to re-generate the grub-config, at the begin without the -o param to take a look what would happen but you can for sure select the kernel at boot thanks to people who still thinks it is a good idea to hide the alternate kernels in the grub menu as default and force users to take action by pressing keys at the grub-stage of boot hence to not use linux alpha-releases if you are not firm with these things! Reindl: I am now on 3.8 after # yum update kernel* earlier today.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
Am 26.04.2013 01:35, schrieb Richard Vickery: Reindl: I am now on 3.8 after # yum update kernel* earlier today.. which leaves the question open why are you on a 3.7.x from 2013-01 until today while others have their production servers for more than a month on 3.8.x Mar 10 17:11:47 Installed: kernel-3.8.2-105.fc17.x86_64 Mar 17 18:49:44 Installed: kernel-3.8.3-101.fc17.x86_64 Mar 20 22:53:46 Erased: kernel-3.8.2-105.fc17.x86_64 Mar 23 17:07:02 Installed: kernel-3.8.4-101.fc17.x86_64 Mar 26 23:47:24 Erased: kernel-3.8.3-101.fc17.x86_64 Apr 06 18:45:32 Installed: kernel-3.8.6-101.fc17.x86_64 Apr 07 17:17:54 Erased: kernel-3.8.4-101.fc17.x86_64 Apr 18 13:45:39 Installed: kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17.x86_64 Apr 19 16:18:28 Erased: kernel-3.8.6-101.fc17.x86_64 Apr 24 19:30:44 Installed: kernel-3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, matters related to F19 need to be addressed on the t...@lists.fedoraproject.org list I just tried doing a fedup on a fully updated F18 system and the process did not complete. The final output was... zlib-1.2.7-10.fc19.x86_64.rpm | 88 kB 00:00:00 getting boot images... Traceback (most recent call last): File /bin/fedup-cli, line 285, in module main(args) File /bin/fedup-cli, line 236, in main raise NotImplementedError(use --instrepo or --skipkernel) NotImplementedError: use --instrepo or --skipkernel So, it is unclear to me how/if you really did update. I do wonder if rpm -qa | grep fc19 actually returns any results. If it does...you really should review the log and post all questions to the test list and file a bugzilla. -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, matters related to F19 need to be addressed on the t...@lists.fedoraproject.org list I just tried doing a fedup on a fully updated F18 system and the process did not complete. The final output was... zlib-1.2.7-10.fc19.x86_64.rpm | 88 kB 00:00:00 getting boot images... Traceback (most recent call last): File /bin/fedup-cli, line 285, in module main(args) File /bin/fedup-cli, line 236, in main raise NotImplementedError(use --instrepo or --skipkernel) NotImplementedError: use --instrepo or --skipkernel So, it is unclear to me how/if you really did update. I do wonder if rpm -qa | grep fc19 actually returns any results. If it does...you really should review the log and post all questions to the test list and file a bugzilla. -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to write this to the test list when there is no context? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to write this to the test list when there is no context? Violating my declaration Well, earlier you stated The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log But, very apparently, you've not upgraded to F19. So, best to just drop it all and move on. Nothing on this thread applies to your situation. -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to write this to the test list when there is no context? Violating my declaration Well, earlier you stated The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log But, very apparently, you've not upgraded to F19. So, best to just drop it all and move on. Nothing on this thread applies to your situation. -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Fine by me if you don't want the help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?
On 04/26/13 08:57, Richard Vickery wrote: Fine by me if you don't want the help. You totally misunderstand. It isn't a matter of not wanting to help. It is a matter of you're asking questions about F19 and you've not upgraded to F19!!! So See you on the test list Where you have posted a question. -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer
On 04/25/2013 06:40 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: So I need to ship back some defective merchandize. The vendor sends me a link to a UPS return label, I open it in Firefox, and try to print it. The printer is an HP 1320. When I try to print it, the printer blinks happily for a few seconds, but stays quiet, and Fedora tells me that the print job completed succesfully. I try a few variations. Tell Firefox to print to a PDF file, then open it in evince, and try to print it. Same results. Tried having Firefox print to a PS file. Tried using pdf2ps on the PDF file. Tried a few other things. I forget exactly what I tried, but on one particular attempt the printer woke up. I got all excited, until the printer ejected a single page, with a single sentence This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer, and completely blank otherwise. Very funny. I finally got the label to come out by having Firefox print to an SVG file, opening it in document viewer, and printing it. That worked. HP 1320 is a postscript printer, but it looks to me like some PDFs (not all, I can print most PDFs without any issues) contain Postscript features that the printer does not support. Anyone know if there's a way to get CUPS to handle that correctly. There are pdfs and there are pdfs, and not all are created equal. In my experience, if you use Adobe Reader, all of them will read out properly and print. Some of the FOS programs haven't quite figured out all the nuances, so I don't try and use them anymore. --doug -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hackers
On 04/24/2013 03:46 AM, Steve Underwood wrote: On 04/24/2013 02:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/23/2013 07:42 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Does anyone care to help me change the negative connotation that the outside world has of this term, one step at a time? Sorry, but it's a tad late to lock up the barn when the horse is already been rendered down into glue. I thought horses were rendered down into lasagne these days. Steve Going to add my two cents on this issue. And mind you I have no ties to the government, nor am I a geeK (which at one time was attached to the word hacker and was usually being someone who wore thick glasses and had no life.!) I think the word hacker in this day and age should not be viewed in ANY negative way, if it weren't for these hackers, and the work they dosometimes tings wouldn't get fixed imagine if the script kiddies who hack into large corporations.abusing Microsoft in EVERY waywell if it weren't for them doing that, then there'd be no patching and the exploits would remain, people would lose moneypersonal info...and lord knows what else!...and that's just ONE scenario!.. EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
