Re: [389-users] error log showing Detected Disorderly Shutdown on startup

2013-05-28 Thread Vincent Gerris
I encountered a similar issue.
I got it when creating an index with the vlvindex command, which was
apparently not correct.
The index creation failed with a segfault and after that I could not
start the server anymore.
I was also unable to do deletion of the index, since ldap was not up.
The error log showed also the rebuilding the database, with no
percentages following.
I also tried deleting the vlv named file I found somewhere, with no succes.
Finally because of time pressure I just started over (by removing
everything with remove-ds-admin.pl).
I did find some selinux entry : SELinux is preventing /bin/bash from
search access on the directory
/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-asahi/db/userRoot.
This might have been a cause for the issue, but I am unsure.

I think this situation should somehow be fixable, but I had no clue how.
Now I am off doing a reinstall and a re-import.
Hope this helps anyone, if anyone knows what to do, please post :).
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Re: [389-users] error log showing Detected Disorderly Shutdown on startup

2013-05-28 Thread Rich Megginson

On 05/28/2013 04:57 AM, Vincent Gerris wrote:

I encountered a similar issue.
I got it when creating an index with the vlvindex command, which was
apparently not correct.
Can you provide your vlv index configuration and the exact command line 
you used?

The index creation failed with a segfault and after that I could not
start the server anymore.


Any time you get a crash, it will be most helpful to follow this:
http://port389.org/wiki/FAQ#Debugging_Crashes
So that we can get a stack trace and determine the cause

I was also unable to do deletion of the index, since ldap was not up.


You can edit dse.ldif directly in this case.


The error log showed also the rebuilding the database, with no
percentages following.

Excerpts?

I also tried deleting the vlv named file I found somewhere, with no succes.

vlv named file?

Finally because of time pressure I just started over (by removing
everything with remove-ds-admin.pl).
I did find some selinux entry : SELinux is preventing /bin/bash from
search access on the directory
/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-asahi/db/userRoot.
This might have been a cause for the issue, but I am unsure.


Would be nice to know what generated this AVC.  What platform and what 
version of 389-ds-base?




I think this situation should somehow be fixable, but I had no clue how.
Now I am off doing a reinstall and a re-import.
Hope this helps anyone, if anyone knows what to do, please post :).


By now you are pretty far out in the weeds - not sure what state your 
system is in.



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Re: [389-users] Indexes and not filters

2013-05-28 Thread Rich Megginson

On 05/26/2013 02:50 PM, Graham Leggett wrote:

On 25 May 2013, at 10:27 PM, Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote:


It just gets weirder and weirder.

We start with no index on the associatedDomain attribute:

[root@monica slapd-monica]# ls -al 
/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-monica/db/userRoot/associatedDomain.db4
ls: cannot access 
/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-monica/db/userRoot/associatedDomain.db4: No such file or 
directory

I ask 389ds to create the index on associatedDomain:

[root@monica slapd-monica]# ./db2index.pl -D cn=Directory Manager -w - -n 
userRoot -t associatedDomain
Bind Password:
adding new entry cn=db2index_2013_5_25_21_21_43, cn=index, cn=tasks, cn=config

I watch the log file, 389ds goes through the motions of creating an index on 
associatedDomain:

[25/May/2013:21:21:42 +0100] - userRoot: Indexing attribute: associatedDomain
[snip]
[25/May/2013:21:22:11 +0100] - userRoot: Finished indexing.

We end with no index on the associatedDomain attribute, no error message, no 
nothing:

Got to the bottom of this.

Should the two master servers not agree on the schema, most specifically schema elements 
on server A are missing from server B, the index generation process will fail silently, 
and return a message saying Finished indexing above.

This fools the admin into thinking the attribute has been successfully indexed 
when no indexing took place.

Hopefully this will help someone else.


Can you please file a ticket - fixing this in the source is the best way 
to help someone else.




Regards,
Graham
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[389-users] Posix Plug-in problem

2013-05-28 Thread alexandre
Hi all,

I enabled Posix Winsync API, everything works. After, I decide to change to
older versions of windows Posix attributes as describe in the documentation:

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/posix-sync.html

Chapter 12.5.3

And now replication doesn't work, I went to the log error and get:
uidNumber/gidNumber required by object class posixAccount

But in my Active Directory, I want to synchronise some users how don't have
Posix uidNumber/gidNumber.

It's possible or do I need to synchronize just users with posix attribute
when this plug-in is enable ?

Thanks,
Alex

Computer: centos 6.4
389ds: 1.2.11.15
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Who screwed up ClamAV in F18?

2013-05-28 Thread Michael H. Warfield
Ok...  (Before anyone tells me I need to) I will be filing a bugzilla
report on this later today but someone did a bad thing in ClamAV.

If you install the latest packages from the update repositories, they
url chunks unable to create the clamupdate user and group.  Problem
appears to be in the clamav-update package.

During the yum install of the clamav packages...

-- 
 groupadd [options] GROUP

Options:
  -f, --force   exit successfully if the group already exists,
and cancel -g if the GID is already used
  -g, --gid GID use GID for the new group
  -h, --helpdisplay this help message and exit
  -K, --key KEY=VALUE   override /etc/login.defs defaults
  -o, --non-unique  allow to create groups with duplicate
(non-unique) GID
  -p, --password PASSWORD   use this encrypted password for the new group
  -r, --system  create a system account
  -R, --root CHROOT_DIR directory to chroot into

useradd: group 'clamupdate' does not exist
warning: user clamupdate does not exist - using root
warning: group clamupdate does not exist - using root
 
  Installing: clamav-filesystem### [1522/2490] 
  Installing: clamav-update### 
[1523/2490]/usr/bin/chown: invalid group: ‘root:clamupdate’
No such file or directory
warning: %post(clamav-update-0.97.8-1.fc18.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit 
status 1
 
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I've had to add that user and group by hand on some of my real systems
but that's not possible in building the NST (Network Security Toolkit)
http://www.networksecuritytoolkit.org/nst/index.html respins of F18
since those are building bootable iso images.

Obviously, it only affects fresh installs where someone installs ClamAV
on a new system (or, at least, one that hasn't had it on there before).
If the UID and GID already exist on the system, there's not a problem.

Regards,
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Re: Who screwed up ClamAV in F18?

2013-05-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:36:18 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

 Ok...  (Before anyone tells me I need to) I will be filing a bugzilla
 report on this later today but someone did a bad thing in ClamAV.

A different suggestion: If you care about ClamAV in the Fedora package
collection, observe it more closely. Fresh installs probably have not
been (re)tried, but three testers have given feedback on the update:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-8047/clamav-0.97.8-1.fc18

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Re: Who screwed up ClamAV in F18?

2013-05-28 Thread Michael H. Warfield
I see it's already been reported...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963920

On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 09:36 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 
 Ok...  (Before anyone tells me I need to) I will be filing a bugzilla
 report on this later today but someone did a bad thing in ClamAV.
 
 If you install the latest packages from the update repositories, they
 url chunks unable to create the clamupdate user and group.  Problem
 appears to be in the clamav-update package.
 
 During the yum install of the clamav packages...
 
 -- 
  groupadd [options] GROUP
 
 Options:
   -f, --force   exit successfully if the group already exists,
 and cancel -g if the GID is already used
   -g, --gid GID use GID for the new group
   -h, --helpdisplay this help message and exit
   -K, --key KEY=VALUE   override /etc/login.defs defaults
   -o, --non-unique  allow to create groups with duplicate
 (non-unique) GID
   -p, --password PASSWORD   use this encrypted password for the new group
   -r, --system  create a system account
   -R, --root CHROOT_DIR directory to chroot into
 
 useradd: group 'clamupdate' does not exist
 warning: user clamupdate does not exist - using root
 warning: group clamupdate does not exist - using root
  
   Installing: clamav-filesystem### [1522/2490] 
   Installing: clamav-update### 
 [1523/2490]/usr/bin/chown: invalid group: ‘root:clamupdate’
 No such file or directory
 warning: %post(clamav-update-0.97.8-1.fc18.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit 
 status 1
  
 --
 
 I've had to add that user and group by hand on some of my real systems
 but that's not possible in building the NST (Network Security Toolkit)
 http://www.networksecuritytoolkit.org/nst/index.html respins of F18
 since those are building bootable iso images.
 
 Obviously, it only affects fresh installs where someone installs ClamAV
 on a new system (or, at least, one that hasn't had it on there before).
 If the UID and GID already exist on the system, there's not a problem.
 
 Regards,
 Mike

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Fedora 18 Update: geoip-geolite-2013.04-1.fc18 (fwd)

2013-05-28 Thread Max Pyziur

Greetings,

Saw the following package update announced yesterday evening. Tried 
installing it on my F18 machines; get the following conflict:


root@mercury ~ yum install geoip-geolite
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package geoip-geolite.noarch 0:2013.04-1.fc18 will be installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package   Arch 
Version Repository 
Size


Installing:
 geoip-geolite noarch 
2013.04-1.fc18  updates 
24 M


Transaction Summary

Install  1 Package

Total size: 24 M
Installed size: 47 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running Transaction Check
Running Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat from install of 
geoip-geolite-2013.04-1.fc18.noarch conflicts with file from package 
GeoIP-1.4.8-4.fc18.x86_64


Error Summary
-

Any suggestions?

Max Pyziur
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 00:59:21 +
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Subject: Fedora 18 Update: geoip-geolite-2013.04-1.fc18


Fedora Update Notification
FEDORA-2013-7539
2013-05-07 17:57:55


Name: geoip-geolite
Product : Fedora 18
Version : 2013.04
Release : 1.fc18
URL : http://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geolite
Summary : Free IP geolocation databases
Description :
The GeoLite databases are free IP geolocation databases.

The GeoLite databases are distributed under the Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. The attribution requirement may
be met by including the following in all advertising and documentation
mentioning features of or use of this database: This product includes
GeoLite data created by MaxMind, available from http://www.maxmind.com;.


Update Information:

Initial packaging.

ChangeLog:


References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #910233 - Review Request: geoip-geolite - Free IP geolocation 
databases
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910233


This update can be installed with the yum update program.  Use
su -c 'yum update geoip-geolite' at the command line.
For more information, refer to Managing Software with yum,
available at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/yum/.

All packages are signed with the Fedora Project GPG key.  More details on the
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Re: Who screwed up ClamAV in F18?

2013-05-28 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 28.05.2013 15:52, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:36:18 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
 
 Ok...  (Before anyone tells me I need to) I will be filing a bugzilla
 report on this later today but someone did a bad thing in ClamAV.
 
 A different suggestion: If you care about ClamAV in the Fedora package
 collection, observe it more closely. Fresh installs probably have not
 been (re)tried, but three testers have given feedback on the update:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-8047/clamav-0.97.8-1.fc18

it works without any problem on machines installed 2011
with F14 and after that 4 times yum distro-sync-upgrades

--- SCAN SUMMARY ---
Known viruses: 2287387
Engine version: 0.97.8
Scanned directories: 0
Scanned files: 1
Infected files: 0
Data scanned: 69.57 MB
Data read: 14.71 MB (ratio 4.73:1)
Time: 10.307 sec (0 m 10 s)

[root@rh:/fileserver/software/windows]$ rpm -q clamav
clamav-0.97.8-1.fc18.x86_64



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configuring mutt

2013-05-28 Thread Richard Vickery
Sorry for the HTML code; I'm trying to fix it. However, I yum-installed
mutt and attempted to send the following email:

Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 10:29:39 -0700
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON@localhost.localdomain
To: richard@localhost.localdomain
Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours

[-- Attachment #1 --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.5K --]

**
**  THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
**  YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE  **
**

The original message was received at Fri, 24 May 2013 22:10:06 -0700
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

   - Transcript of session follows -
users@lists.fedoraproject.org... Deferred: Connection timed out with
smtp-mm02.fedoraproject.org.
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

[-- Attachment #2 --]
[-- Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.3K --]

Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
Arrival-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 22:10:06 -0700

Final-Recipient: RFC822; users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; smtp-mm02.fedoraproject.org
Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 10:29:38 -0700
Will-Retry-Until: Wed, 29 May 2013 22:10:06 -0700

[-- Attachment #3 --]
[-- Type: message/rfc822, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.9K --]

any ideas?
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Re: configuring mutt

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Oliver



On Mon, 27 May 2013, Richard Vickery wrote:


Sorry for the HTML code; I'm trying to fix it. However, I yum-installed mutt 
and attempted to send the following email:
[snip]


Does this happen with all email, or only email to fedoraproject?

Here's the obligatory Hmmm... It works out of the box for me... I hate 
reading that when I have a problem, but I feel obligated to let you know.

I'm not a mutt expert -- I have it installed only so I can script broadcast 
emails from the command line -- but my impression is that it's like pine in 
that it's a client, not a server, and  uses the mail server software you have 
installed for sending (e.g. sendmail, postfix), and hands off to that.  The 
error message you gave looks to me like a server issue.  Do you have another 
client on that box, like alpine, that does work?

Since the problem is a timeout, it sounds like the server is talking to 
fedoraproject, which means, to me, that mutt has handed it off.

Here are some things that have screwed me over in the past:

1) The mailinglist only accepts mail with your name from one ip address or 
domain, and this ain't it.  Usually this gets a better error message than 
timeout, but I've seen it.

2) There's an authentication problem (this is the most common for me, 
particularly if I'm doing POP/IMAP stuff involving dovecot).  Again, this 
usually gets a better error message than a timeout, but I've seen it there, 
too.  A lot depends on how the servers are configured.

3) You do not have your client pointing to the correct server/MTA.  I've done this when I've had 
multiple domains and multiple servers behind one firewall/router.  I've also made the mistake of 
using localhost for my server when I didn't mean to, and had installed, but not set up, 
sendmail on my laptop as part of a default setup.  So, I kept trying to debug my real 
mail server and couldn't find a problem, when in fact my mail client was trying to use my 
unconfigured laptop as a server. Doh.  That's a day out of my life I'll never get back.

4) You do not have your domain correctly denoted, and so there's a mismatch (e.g. you are sending 
from billoblog.com but you are attaching localdomain.)  That can cause some 
problems later on, though usually for me the error message tells me that the reverse lookup failed 
at the recipient site.  I also get this on occasion when sending mail through an ISP that returns 
the ISP domain on reverse lookup.

5) Fedoraproject's MTA was actually down when you tried to talk to it, and you 
just have bad timing.  It will clear up later.

Since this is a bit of a touchy mailinglist culture here, I assume you'll get all sorts of flak if you 
send an empty test email using a direct sendmail or postfix command. Maybe there's a test 
address that the mailinglist advertises for debugging.  If so, I'd just do the old tried and true 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -v somewhere@somedomain  /dev/null   and see what you get.  If 
*that* times out, then it's not mutt that's the problem.

billo
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Re: firefox crash

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 09:15 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:

If you just updated firefox, you may need to reboot the machine - I've
seen stability problems before reboot


Seems a bit extreme, this isn't Windows.  For sure, you quit Firefox and
make sure it's not running at all, after an update.  I've certainly seen
Firefox screw up if I tried to use it while it was still running during
an update.  But I've never had to reboot for it.

Depending on what updates, you may have to rerun ldconfig to get FF looking at 
the correct libraries. I have to do that after some updates.


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Re: Solicited sales email distribution - advice needed

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

Gary Stainburn wrote:

Hi Folks.

I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution
that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients
on this list.

Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he
maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the
stock list and BCC's the distribution list.  Other than generating an
excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no  real down side to this as
it meant that I didn't have to get involved.

However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.

I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate
message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.

Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to
still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system
that is either text file or database driven  I can create a UI that he would
be able to use.

I did a perl script, reads all of the addresses from a list, the mail text from 
another, command line options to control the number of recipients per connect 
(sounds like you want one) and time between connects. Also copes with the fact 
that the master list gets updated by someone else, so I have a file of addresses 
to rewrite to something working and one of addresses to just drop, even though 
they're in the master list. Set the From header to a unique value so you can 
isolate the bounces, or use a unique string in the subject, I tried Bounces-To 
and found little sites use dumb mail programs which use from even if sender or 
bounces-to are present.


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F17 losing settings

2013-05-28 Thread Beartooth

Where/How do I tell Fedora (Gnome 3) once and for all to show 
hidden files? Unless I command otherwise, I always want to see them; but 
the file manager seems to ignore the fact that I have that option checked.
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Re: Alien

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

Bill Oliver wrote:



On Fri, 24 May 2013, Neal Becker wrote:


Michael Schwendt wrote:


I don't know how useful alien would really be.  Because package naming is not
consistent between debian and Fedora, I'm guessing that it's unlikely to be able
to satisfy requirements most of the time.


That's what I keep running into.  There are a couple of apps I use a lot
(Makehuman,for example) that are not packaged for fedora.  I've tried to
get them going, including compiling from scratch, but keep running into
dependency problems.  They are solvable but simply not worth the effort of
tracking down.  I ended up installing Mint in virtualbox and run it from
there on my fedora box.

I have rather a lot of those, sometimes the least elegant solution is the 
easiest to maintain. The nice thing is that since they are frozen you don't have 
to worry about updates. The ultimate LTS version ;-)




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RE: F17 losing settings

2013-05-28 Thread Alan Gagne

Where/How do I tell Fedora (Gnome 3) once and for all to show
hidden files? Unless I command otherwise, I always want to see them; but
the file manager seems to ignore the fact that I have that option checked.


[agagne@dw-agagne ~]$ gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences 
show-hidden-files true
[agagne@dw-agagne ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.nautilus.preferences 
show-hidden-files

true

Alan
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Re: Alien

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 05/24/2013 03:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 05/24/2013 03:45 PM, Bill Oliver wrote:

Thanks, but it turns out that the current version is 1.0 alpha 7, and
the differences between 0.9 and 1.0 are pretty big.


So, request an update


I have filed one now at

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967124

Next time,  consider doing so before you attempt workarounds like building it
yourself or using alien or whatever else

Please don't take this as a criticism, because it's not. One reason that people 
don't like to ask the maintainers for ANYTHING is the frequency with which 
requests are met with comments on how busy everyone is, and the occasional reply 
from someone suggesting that you have source, why don't you fix that yourself. 
I also get notices that bugs of long standing have become WONTFIX because no one 
got around to them in a year.



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Re: firefox crash

2013-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

Patrick Dupre wrote:




- Original Message -
From: Ed Greshko
Sent: 05/24/13 10:41 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: firefox crash

On 05/24/13 16:38, Patrick Dupre wrote:

I observed a lot of crashes with firefox 21
for example just going to www.thesaurus.com
I also use ABP to block the AD, but it does not seem to be the poblem.

What is wrong ?


I just went to www.thesaurus.com and had no problems

You've tried starting FF in safe mode?


Thank for the suggestion.
When I start in safe mode, every thing is frozen!
with: Transferring data from ad.doubleclick.net
Then I need to quit (kill) FF.


Try refresh, that works for me when googleanalytics is slow.

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Tool for unpacking SDC files

2013-05-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

Is there any Fedora tool to unpack a SDC file?

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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Re: Alien

2013-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram

On 05/28/2013 01:48 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Please don't take this as a criticism, because it's not. One reason 
that people don't like to ask the maintainers for ANYTHING is the 
frequency with which requests are met with comments on how busy 
everyone is, and the occasional reply from someone suggesting that 
you have source, why don't you fix that yourself. I also get notices 
that bugs of long standing have become WONTFIX because no one got 
around to them in a year.
It isn't a perfect system.  In all my time as a Fedora contributor, I 
have never seen any package maintainer suggest that because you have the 
source you can fix it yourself but I guess that can happen rarely but it 
is more common that some of the bug reports don't get resolved in time.  
Reporting bugs should really be seen as a way to contribute rather than 
just a way to get the fix you want. Most of the package maintainers are 
volunteers and they get asked to do things all the time and often more 
than they can really handle. There are literally hundreds of bug reports 
filed and fixed on a regular basis.  You don't have to take my word for 
it.  Just login #fedorabot in freenode IRC and look at the number of 
updates being pushed out daily.  Majority of them are bug fix updates.


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F18_csrf_token=415d9ac0c6576d9dc425bb4f1c682d8723b1f19e

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F17_csrf_token=415d9ac0c6576d9dc425bb4f1c682d8723b1f19e

We do have new contributors signing up on a regular basis but we are 
dealing with a ever growing repository of packages and the demand always 
exceeds supply


Rahul
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Re: firefox crash

2013-05-28 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, 

in firefox -safe-mode
I just take for ever I had to stop several scripts
And finally OK (after 1/2 hour!)
and freezes again, etc...
I also got:
ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.

Regards.

 
  On 05/24/13 16:38, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  I observed a lot of crashes with firefox 21
  for example just going to www.thesaurus.com
  I also use ABP to block the AD, but it does not seem to be the poblem.
 
  What is wrong ?
 
  I just went to www.thesaurus.com and had no problems
 
  You've tried starting FF in safe mode?
 
  Thank for the suggestion.
  When I start in safe mode, every thing is frozen!
  with: Transferring data from ad.doubleclick.net
  Then I need to quit (kill) FF.
 
 Try refresh, that works for me when googleanalytics is slow.
 
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Re: firefox crash

2013-05-28 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 28.05.2013 18:54, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
 Tim wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 09:15 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
 If you just updated firefox, you may need to reboot the machine - I've
 seen stability problems before reboot

 Seems a bit extreme, this isn't Windows.  For sure, you quit Firefox and
 make sure it's not running at all, after an update.  I've certainly seen
 Firefox screw up if I tried to use it while it was still running during
 an update.  But I've never had to reboot for it.

 Depending on what updates, you may have to rerun ldconfig to get FF looking 
 at the correct libraries. I have to do
 that after some updates

write a bugreport for the updated packages
they *must* call ldconfig if they update libraries

IMHO it is a misdesign that every single package has to run ldconfig
for updates of many packages instead get this triggered at the end
of the yum-transaction or at least yum could do ldconfig *at the end*
of any transaction, but this is how things are working





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Re: Weird network problem

2013-05-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote:

 Allegedly, on or about 27 May 2013, Timothy Murphy sent:
 As a matter of interest, how do you configure DHCP
 to work with a dynamic IP?

 But are you talking about configuring a DHCP client or server?

Sorry, I mis-read the query.
I was thinking of a DHCP server



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Re: Fedora 18 Update: geoip-geolite-2013.04-1.fc18 (fwd)

2013-05-28 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
 Greetings,

 Saw the following package update announced yesterday evening. Tried
 installing it on my F18 machines; get the following conflict:

Please report this as a bug against geoip-geolite:
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/geoip-geolite

-T.C.
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Re: Weird network problem

2013-05-28 Thread Tim
Tim:
 But are you talking about configuring a DHCP client or server?

Timothy Murphy:
 Sorry, I mis-read the query.
 I was thinking of a DHCP server 

The same basic answer still stands:  A DHCP server, by default, doles
out dynamic IPs.  

In other words, until an administrator customises the configuration, it
doesn't absolutely associate a particular IP with a particular device.
Leases are doled out from a pool of available addresses, and while there
are un-used ones spare, it'll dole out these new un-used ones to new
devices, re-issuing the same IPs to previous devices, if possible.

There's a time period involved, so that a leased IP is kept in reserve
for that device for a while, then it's no-longer reserved, and may be
doled out to anything that asks for an IP.  There's no standard period,
that's up to whoever configured the package, and administrators can
customise the lease time periods to suit themselves.

Once the spare addresses run out, the DHCP server will start re-using
IPs where the leases have expired, and that aren't currently in use
(only a stupidly configured server will try to rip an IP off a currently
active device and try to give it to someone else, but then some networks
are run by idiots).  A server could re-use expired-lease addresses
before the spare un-used IPs have run out, but I haven't seen mine do
that.  It always worked through the pool of previously un-used IPs
before re-using an older one.  That way, even when the lease has
expired, a machine is still likely to get the same IP as it had last
time.  My ISP doesn't work that way, if I disconnect for long enough
(about over half a minute), I usually get a new random address.  Which
is handy if there was some sort of networking problem, I'm likely to
bypass it on my next connection attempt.

In general, dynamic IPs are doled out sequentially, rather than purely
randomly.  Some servers may dole them out from highest available IP
number down to lowest, others may go the other way.  But there's a
convention amongst administrators to set static IPs from lowest upwards,
and dynamic IPs from highest downwards, that some DHCP programmers seem
to go along with.

Static address assignment, where the same device always gets the same
address, depends on the administrator configuring the DHCP server to
work that way.  It's usually done by associating a devices MAC with a
particular IP, but there are other ways of doing it.

DHCP clients, probably by default, may ask the server to give them the
same IP as they had last time, but the server doesn't have to comply
with client requests.  Likewise, it should be possible for a client to
be manually configured to ask for a specific address, but it's still
okay for the server to ignore that and tell the client what it's going
to use.

On my LAN, I have a mix of static and dynamic addresses doled out by the
DHCP server, and those addresses are put into the local DNS server
(static ones put into the DNS server by me, dynamic ones managed by the
DHCP server updating the DNS server).  Certain machines which are always
here get preset addresses, for the sake of my convenience, more than
anything else.  Any servers would get preset addresses, for the sake of
less networking headaches, as wandering server addresses can upset
everything else trying to access them, and make configuring their
firewalls a lot more annoying.  Clients, generally, don't do machine to
machine networking, so changing their IP addresses rarely causes a
problem.  Only the DHCP server and the router have manual network
configuration set on themselves with fixed addresses, such machines
should never change addresses, and should be able to run stand-alone
without having to be configured externally.

Centrally managing all the machine addresses on the DHCP server, whether
that be the hands-off dynamic addressing of new computers, or preset
addressing of regular computers, means that I never have have mess with
hand configuring the network settings of any computer that I plug into
the LAN, at all.  I don't have to learn six different ways of
configuring a client, because they have different OSs, or because of all
the changes that different versions of each OS has inflicted upon us.  I
don't need to get admin passwords to computers to get them on the net.
I don't have to set their IPs, netmasks, DNS servers, mess with host
files, etc.  I just plug them in and they work.

For what it's worth, I find it far better to centrally manage any
network greater than about three machines.  Above that, it becomes a
right pain having to hand configure each machine, and deal with any
changes that happen to your network.  While you might think that you're
not going to change IPs, it happens as soon as you have to replace
something like a modem/router, or networked printer, that insists that
it has to be 192.168.1.something rather than 192.168.0.something that
your network was currently configured to use, because the damn fool
device designers don't 

replacing lxdm with slim

2013-05-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi,

In Fedora 17 and before, I could successfully replace lxdm with slim
just by uninstalling one (lxdm) and installing slim. Doing so in Fedora
18 does not work. By that, I mean that I do not get the graphical
display with slim: instead, I get a text prompt and I have to login
with password, following which I have to type startx. Following a load
of text I am then put into the LXDE desktop screen.

What exactly do I need to do in F18 to get back the old experience? 

Happy to provide more information: I am not sure what would be helpful
and where to start.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan


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